I am getting very, very tired of Muslims demanding things in MY Judeo-Christian country.

Posted by: darcy at October 28, 2007 8:03 AM

Sweet! I was setting up chairs at my church just an hour ago and had this woman on my mind. She is clearly one of those folks who have been smoked out by IFAW and we now have a poster child for the vacuous nature of Sharia "Law". I say that we now enlist Mr. Horowitz to follow up "Islamofascist Awareness Week" with "Sharia Law Awareness Week". I would LOVE to see how many enlightened "kinder-llectuals" (thank you for the new word Mr. Prager) would fall squarely on the side of beheadings, stonings and hand chopping!

DON'T SHARIA ME BRO!!!!

Posted by: The Commissioner at October 28, 2007 8:14 AM

Sweet! I was setting up chairs at my church just an hour ago and had this woman on my mind. She is clearly one of those folks who have been smoked out by IFAW and we now have a poster child for the vacuous nature of Sharia "Law". I say that we now enlist Mr. Horowitz to follow up "Islamofascist Awareness Week" with "Sharia Law Awareness Week". I would LOVE to see how many enlightened "kinder-llectuals" (thank you for the new word Mr. Prager) would fall squarely on the side of beheadings, stonings and hand chopping!

DON'T SHARIA ME BRO!!!!

Posted by: The Commissioner at October 28, 2007 8:15 AM

This foolish young woman should be sent to an islamic country, to have the privilege of experiencing her precious sharia law firsthand.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at October 28, 2007 8:23 AM

Agree with you, ImNoDhimmi, right now she should be taken to the airport and sent to Islamabad so she can live under her "precious sharia law," as you said.

Wow, the "Incorrect U " video was good - I felt right there at GWU.

Posted by: darcy at October 28, 2007 8:32 AM

I picked up on this terd's comments when I watched this vid on FPM last evening.

She is a very ignorant girl. Since she said that though, she MAY have saved herself from being beaten or being "honor killed". Sharia law should be outlawed worldwide, and dismissed as a disgraceful part of the old "Caveman Olympics".

If you're looking for stupidity, just go to some of America's college campuses. It runs thick there.

Posted by: Prickzilla at October 28, 2007 8:39 AM

She should start by having a burkah surperglued on her head and keeping her mouth shut.

Posted by: Celsius at October 28, 2007 8:40 AM

Appalling. She does mean the United States. She calls it HER country. Well it isn't! She is not an American even though she my have an American passport. She is a Muslim. Mutually exclusive identities. The interviewer wasn't fast enough. He should have told her straight off that she has no right to be in the US as she has no respect for and does not recognise the Constitution and all that it stands for...freedom and equality. She and her ilk are a seditious menace and should be deported immediately.

Posted by: johndoe at October 28, 2007 8:44 AM

It's ok...
just another durkaditz who doesn't get the fact...
what she wants and gets are two different things,
forget the fact they're outnumbered 100-1,
by armed Americans,
who have utter contempt for them,
and are reaching the breaking point of their BS...
but most of all, when push comes to shove...
we haven't played cowboys & durkas...yet.
*WEG*

Posted by: jcom972 at October 28, 2007 8:57 AM

johndoe,

No, he shouldn't have told her those things.

He was, as you said, not fast enough.

He should have interviewed her. He should have asked for her name, He should have asked how non-Muslims would fare in her Islamic utopia.

He should have let her go on and on. He should have asked her where she is from and if she is an American citizen or is perhaps here on a student visa.

The Young American Foundation needs to interview her.

She needs to have 'Defeat Jihad' bumper stickers placed all over her car.

Ma and Pa America need to know, George Bush needs to know, this girl is not 'perverting' Islam. Sean Hannity needs to know.

Would Alan Colmes even allow her to be called a Muslim on his show?

Posted by: PRCS at October 28, 2007 8:57 AM

Please ignore my previous posting. It came through garbled.
It should have read like this

“Well, at least she's honest about it.”

Absolutely.

Islam as a religious faith is acceptable; Islam as a political ideology is profoundly antithetical to the values of Western democracy.
An Islamic, Sharia state does not accept the rights of non-Muslims.
If someone becomes becomes a British Citizen, they have to swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown which means they accept the democratic system of government and the fact that the monarch is a Christian. A democratic system does not mean that the majority is always right, it must accept the rights of it’s minorities.
In Spain, everyone swears an oath of allegiance to the Constitution, including the King.
In America, I assume , no-one can become a citizen without swearing an oath of allegiance to the Constitution.

And of course, if someone breaks this oath of allegiance, they must be held accountable.
Which leads to the heart of this matter – is this young woman in breach of her contract of citizenship?
Surely the answer is yes.
Immigration is potentially the Trojan horse which will bring down the Western democracies. If someone immigrates to a democracy with the stated intention of overthrowing democracy then how can the authorities tolerate it? Given the impending demographic situation and the fact that these people are immediately allowed to vote, it is clear that Western politicians are not doing their job properly, that what is going on is an invasion and not, in fact, controlled immigration.
So what is to be done?
Western democracies have to bring in laws dealing with the issue of breach of contract of citizenship.
If you want to vote in a Sharia state, if you want to use the democratic process to destroy democracy, then you should be charged with breaking the law.
This law, which has yet to be passed, would be a natural development of the constitution. It should be passed soon.
Imprisoning these people is absurd. A suitable punishment would be deportation back to their country of origin or re-settlement in a country of their choice i.e. Iran or Saudi Arabia where they can enjoy the Sharia system they so desire.

The demographic situation in America is not as bad as in Europe but if Hilary Clinton becomes president then most educated American women will probably follow her example and put their careers ahead of their families which means that the birth rate will plummet.
Which means democracies have about 10-20 years to get these laws in place or they are doomed.

Posted by: Odyessus at October 28, 2007 9:08 AM

And none of her friends called her on it either. The girl without the hijab might well rue the day her friend's dream comes true.

Mr. 'Moderate' who went to the Saudi Embassy to tell them, to tell the Saudis--keepers of the flame--they don't represent Islam, didn't call her on it either.

Posted by: PRCS at October 28, 2007 9:10 AM

I am very much struck by the similarities of Islam and the Japanese "hakko ichiu", as well as the Islam's similarities with Nazism. These are supremacist belief-systems with a mandate to subdue the world. (BTW, Zionism is a defensive ideology-there is no real comparison of Zionism with Islam, Nazism or early 20th century Japanese supremacism.) The late Chinese-American historian Iris Chang describes the consequence of the Japanese supremacism (cutting off heads, etc.) in the Rape of Nanjing. "Hakko ichiu" justified that, as it did the Banzai attack as the ring closed on Japan in 1945.

These supremacist ideologies are like trance states because of their rituals and their closed nature. They are rationalization systems for plunder-exploitation and reducing the outsider to a Dhimmi status. They do not tolerate criticism or objective truth. For that reason they have the potential for being justifications for mass murder. Islam is a "Hakko ichiu" ideology.

Re "Hakko ichiu".....

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:wKmEw1UutLoJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakko_ichiu+hakko+ichiu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 9:20 AM

Another 30 grand down the toilet. It is getting pretty expensive to get a degree in stupidity these days.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at October 28, 2007 9:33 AM

The bottom lines is, these people wish to impose their values on other countries'.That's all you need to know. There should be no dialogue with these people. Their stated intention is to overthrow our democracy. Again, that should be enough, that should be the end of the conversation. They have no intention of being "part" of the host countries' they want to impose their rule on them. This should be the simplest point, easily understood. And yet the liberals still think you can change their way of thought, well you can't. They will not stop, but they will lie, cheat and steal until everyone does as they are told. What's the difference between this girl and a Nazi? Nothing.

Posted by: DaveMate at October 28, 2007 9:37 AM

After 9/11 one of my first moments of enlightenment about what was happening occurred when it was explained to me that the UK and other countries in Europe were taking in as 'Asylum-seekers', Muslims who were TOO RADICAL FOR THEIR OWN MUSLIM COUNTRIES. Exposure to freedom makes many of them even more insane.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at October 28, 2007 9:45 AM

It is our country the United States of America, a Republic that they seek to destroy. Along with Barry Obama and others from the left that refer to our country as a democracy. We don't quite have mob rule yet.

Posted by: AMartinez at October 28, 2007 9:51 AM

Ultimately, the future of Islam will be similar to Nazism and "Hakko ichiu". The trance state produced by rituals and repetitions of words in mass (Nazi-style) in their "religious" expressions will cause them to attack Israel or the US in some horrible fashion that will make Pearl Harbor or 911 look like child's play. They mean to impose this religion-ideology on the world. They have no love for objective-Bonhoeffer-style truth. (As Bonhoeffer said: we must literally "learn to speak the truth.") This "religion" does not permit self-criticism of its supremacist assumptions. It's trance over truth.

In the final analysis the antidote to the Sharia trance is a secular parliamentary style democracy where the Chuckle-head Imam types are well criticized. Unfortunately, as with Nazism and "Hakko ichiu", Islam will have to face absolute destruction before the trance is broken. (I don't want to see that happen. But I am realistic in this.) Mecca and Saudi-A-Totalitarian-Gas-Station and the Mideast are on a "Hakko ichiu"-Nazi style road that leads to destruction.

Beyond this, the Islamic permissions to deception produce a mind prone to self-deception. They can't think objectively about truth in this trance state of belief. It's a form of suicide.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 10:15 AM

Always remember that you are looking at, and listening to a person who is fully brainwashed in an ideology that is mostly political than religious. If they are true Muslims than they cannot assimilate into Western society, or make friends with any infidels. They must remain slaves to a regressive ideology that always falls backwards to its inhumane paganistic practices that date back 1,400 years and even more since Mohammed compromised with the paganistic practices of the Arabs to push his religion. A religion that cannot be changed because they follow the writings of allah (God) for all time.

Posted by: Mackie at October 28, 2007 10:19 AM

We must not be surprised that Fibrahim Hooper, the Ed-209 Lakovic, Robert E. Umar Lee ("Spencer is a racist") lie so much and engage in deception. But the worst of it is the self-deception of this mind-set: they believe their own propaganda. (Dietrich Bonhoeffer is right: we must literally "learn to speak the truth.") It's time for CAIR-liars, Fibrahim Hooper, Ed-209, etc. to go to truth school so that they know how to stay away from the Rev. Jim Nutter and speak the objective truth and not deny objective truth.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 10:24 AM

"Always remember that you are looking at, and listening to a person who is fully brainwashed in an ideology that is mostly political than religious".- Mackie

This is heavy-duty "hakko ichiu"-Nazi trance stuff.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 10:27 AM

Mackie-

Robert, David Horowitz, etc. better make tracks real fast if they ever see Fibrihim Hooper, Ed-209 Lakovic "find my Nazi collaborator ancestors please so I can stop the lies" or CAIR-liars and Robert E. Umar Lee shout "Bonzai"! "Bonzai"! "Bonzai"! "Hakko ichiu"-Allah Snackbar (the handle of one the guys who posts here). Look out.

Bonhoffer was right that deception underlies this kind of evil. The deception, the permissions to deception, make violence inevitible. Islam can never be a religion of peace because permits deception.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 11:01 AM

"Bonzai"! "Bonzai"! "Bonzai"! "Hakko ichiu"! "Allah Snackbar"!

Make tracks man. Run because you can't fly.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 11:04 AM

BTW, don't worry about Fitzgerald. He has camouflage paint. He couldn't be bothered having "dialogue" with these loonies("Bonzai"! "Bonzai"! "Bonzai"! "Hakko ichiu"! "Allah Snackbar"! and keeps his powder dry.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 11:13 AM

Strange, but she clearly doesn't think that sharia applies to her. If she did, she'd realize that she shouldn't be at GWU at all; she should be at home, pregnant with her third or fourth child (assuming that she's a student at GWU, and thus age 20 or so), and hoping that the lamb kebabs she's prepared for dinner will please her master when he comes home so that he won't beat her again. Poor ignorant; she's got a lot to learn about sharia.

Posted by: ebonystone at October 28, 2007 11:20 AM

sharia = the religion islam = misogyny, misanthropy, bigotry, racism, supremacism, hatred and absence of life – in other words - death, ...

in different times (before cultural marxism’s stranglehold on Civilization) and places (non PC, non “liberal-elite”-dominated societies nations) what this person is promoting would be correctly labeled a cult (more accurately a death cult) and the person(s) suffering from it/entrapped within -cultist(s)(what sane person would promote perpetual hatred -even against oneself...?)

the only solution is that all aspects of the religion “islam” must be fully exposed to all –especially to those suffering from it/entrapped within it

Posted by: TINBH at October 28, 2007 11:25 AM

Is in the process of getting ready to attend a special Sunday mass with the parish celibration of confirmation in a little while and had come upon this. Not happy but also not suprised either. It is the young people in question who will be confirmed today that have to deal with this over the course of their lives. To those who are Muslim, you have come to the USA to live in freedom, not treat those who are not Muslim in the same way you want to be treated, with respect.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at October 28, 2007 11:41 AM

....letting yoyos like this into our beautiful country is a mistake...Ban Muslim Immigration...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 28, 2007 12:12 PM

We've all heard of the Stockholm syndrome, where a captive falls in love with his captors and persecutors. Isn't that what so many women in the Islamic world are suffering from? Perhaps the "Islamic Bimbo syndrome" should be added to the "Stockholm syndrome" as an area of study in university psycholgy departments.

I hope this young women gets her Sharia law. She obviously won't be happy in a world where a male relative doesn't crack her upside the on occassion.

Posted by: rational at October 28, 2007 12:22 PM

We've all heard of the Stockholm syndrome, where a captive falls in love with his captors and persecutors. Isn't that what so many women in the Islamic world are suffering from? Perhaps the "Islamic Bimbo syndrome" should be added to the "Stockholm syndrome" as an area of study in university psycholgy departments.

I hope this young women gets her Sharia law. She obviously won't be happy in a world where a male relative doesn't crack her upside the head on occassion.

Posted by: rational at October 28, 2007 12:23 PM

Thanks to the Kennedy clan and Lyndon Johnson and their ilk, we have a lot of 3rd worlders in the US now. It is all about the votes folks.
Get into public office and have money for all your life and connections for enrichment beyond that. Hey, all the kids and grandkids are running for office and winning....why do you vote for these people?

Posted by: interestinconundrum at October 28, 2007 12:28 PM

Some, perhaps even many, slaves of the old south loved their slavery too.

Posted by: CrazyFool at October 28, 2007 12:36 PM

deport her

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at October 28, 2007 12:59 PM

She wants sharia, she should be told to go to where they already have it. Time should come where calling for replacement of constitutions in western countries should be classified as sedition and grounds for immediate deportation.

Treason is the reason for the season

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at October 28, 2007 1:00 PM

Get intopublic office and have money for all your life and connections for enrichment beyond that. Hey, all the kids and grandkids are running for office and winning....why do you vote for these people?

Posted by: interestinconundrum

My voting patterns changed in 2004. Anti-incumbent became my rule. Those who are in will be voted out, regardless of party. No relatives of current or former officeholders will ever again get my vote. One person per family.
It doesn't matter though. Remember the outcry against Kennedy's amnesty bill? He was still reelected easily. We're stuck with him for at least five more years, courtesy of the good people of Massachusetts. None of us have any say over more than three members of Congress.
Many representatives are in "safe" districts but they can be defeated if people are willing to vote against them. Term limits can be imposed by the American people - not by law but with a vote.
It's the tough part about a democracy: we get the government we deserve and we deserve the government we get. We're the ones who put it there.

Posted by: PMK at October 28, 2007 1:16 PM

So much to be bothered about respecting this foolish woman's comments. But here's what bothers me most: Western politicians, in America, Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand and continental Europe, have still not learned that Muslim immigration to the West must cease. Even expulsion should be considered. Unfortunately, almost no Western politician anywhere comprehends what we're up against and what must be done. It's not enough to fight Muslim terror. We must fight Muslim demographics as well.

Posted by: Wellington at October 28, 2007 1:25 PM

Send this to ALL your friends and family who still seem to think that "peaceful" or "moderate" Muslims are ultimately harmless and innocent of any wrongdoing. This clip proves that they are not.

Tell them to skip ahead to the pertinent clip four minutes and thirty seconds into the video.

Then ask them a few simple questions, like...

Do you know all the horrible, oppresive laws included in Sharia Law?
How would Sharia law impact your life?
What does "impose" mean?

And finally...

What is the difference between a terrorist making threats and demanding your country accept Sharia Law and a "peaceful" or "moderate" Muslim who wants Sharia Law imposed on your country and countrymen?

What's the difference? She renounces terrorist acts, yet wishes for Sharia Law to be imposed on the US. How else would Shaira Law be imposed except through violence?

I guess the terrorist is just more honest than she is.

Posted by: vashine at October 28, 2007 1:46 PM

For those who think deportation is the answer (which it's not) the millions of Muslims who have been born here CANNOT be deported.

The issue has to be dealt with, because they're not going away.

You might consider sending that video (and any others like it) to each of your Congressional Representatives, every living relative you have, your friends, and every news outlet and blog you can think of.

That girl is, as someone above noted, a posterchild for the threat that Islam presents to secular democracies everywhere.

Posted by: PRCS at October 28, 2007 1:57 PM

could this actually be the infamous poster on here nassems true identity she is always trying to make the cult of Islam and sharia law the law of the land

Posted by: mowasaperv at October 28, 2007 2:12 PM

Sorry, the side view of this broad makes me want to barf.

Posted by: AMartinez at October 28, 2007 2:35 PM

500 muslims marched on the saudi embassy and not on the MSM? can anyone provide a link with this?

the muslim in the suit seemed like a really nice honest guy, but the guy with the hat and beard are the ones pulling the strings. they are the bully boys, the nazi stormtroopers. these people we need to be exposed and targeted through public humilation. anyone know the guy in the hat's name?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at October 28, 2007 2:58 PM

what did that protestor say that was racist to the black cop? i couldn't hear it.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at October 28, 2007 3:00 PM

PRCS: You are quite right to point out that those Muslims born here in America cannot be deported because they are American citizens. Neither could virtually all of those who have acquired American citizenship after coming here. Expulsion is really only an option with foreign nationals. Therefore, we are left with the following options: 1)education to the extent that many Muslim Americans will realize that Islam is an ideology which should be abandoned and education of non-Muslim Americans that Islam is invidious to American liberties and our way of life, that it is to be treated quite skeptically as has been Marxism and Nazism in the past; 2)making Islam the one religion which is not protected by the First Amendment; this will almmost certainly require an additional amendment to the Constitution.

The first option will be difficult, time consuming and thwarted by many, not the least of whom will be the Far Left in this country. The second option is going to be more than difficult, almost impossible actually, but theoretically capable of being done. Muslims have us where the hair is short and the very freedoms pioneered and developed by the West have been used, are being used and will be used by Muslims to end those freedoms if and when they get the chance. Nazism and Marxism by comparison were a cakewalk to discredit and destroy. The evisceration and discrediting of the Islamic faith, which would be a great boon to all of mankind, will challenge the human race as it has never been challenged before.

Posted by: Wellington at October 28, 2007 3:15 PM

Frank - I think you're onto something.

More generally: for the benefit of the naive NON-MUSLIMS, so they can understand exactly how outrageous this woman's words are, or words by other Muslims saying the same thing, we need more hard-hitting explanations, in non-Muslim countries, of what Sharia actually is. Especially, what Sharia does to women, and to non-Muslims. All of the ugliest aspects of Sharia - e.g. the hideous punishments, the ghastly sexual double standard, the Rules for Dhimmis - can surely be summed up in plain language on a suitable flyer or poster that can be scattered abroad on university campuses, tacked up on noticeboards, glued to walls.

We need SWAT street theatre - short sharp mini-dramas that ACT OUT what sharia is and does - e.g. anyone game to write a two-minute drama exposing the Sharia rape laws (four male witnesses needed; the victim's word counts for nothing)? or the Rules for Dhimmis (e.g. jizya, extortionate land tax leading to destitution, no church bells, distinctive clothing, no rights at law, no right to self-defence no matter how extreme the provocation...)? The killing of 'blasphemers' and 'apostates'.

SHARIA = OPPRESSION MAXIMISED.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at October 28, 2007 4:02 PM

I was at Horowitz' GW talk (didn't regret it one bit though it was a chilly night, with a nasty drizzle, and I'd much rather preferred to be on my sofa with my cats and a soft blanket and an Elizabeth George mystery in hand).

I'd read on a blog that Horowitz was a dull speaker, lacking in charisma. I saw nothing of the kind. He was persuasive, smart in the way he built up his argument, and passionate. A rather smallish man who seemed to float in an oversized--otherwise impeccable--ivory suit, who walked about the stage as he spoke, pausing to reflect or speeding and moving his arms when he got angry. Perfect pitch, irrefutable arguments and handling of facts--with one exception, that of the foundation of the Ottoman Empire.

All of the recorded silly talk happened after the lecture. The lecture itself was mercifully free of vapid "protesting." Only during the Q/A session two guys unfurrled a banner and shouted slogans. They were removed post-haste. Security was very tight, but I think the pro-Islamist crowd was taken aback by the sheer power of David's talk. Some of the questions were loughed off loudly by the audience, especially those coming from the bimbo vice-president of the MSA at GW (who looked like a "revert") who asked David if he knew that "jihad" meant "inner struggle" and if he thought she was "oppressed" as a Muslim woman.
Heck no, David said, why should you, you live in a democratic, secular society.

One other detail: I sat next to a woman who described herself as a "housewife from Virginia" and a military veteran who was there to "learn."
What a contrast to the young women, hidjabbed or not, at GW.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at October 28, 2007 5:04 PM

I was at Horowitz' GW talk (didn't regret it one bit though it was a chilly night, with a nasty drizzle, and I'd much rather preferred to be on my sofa with my cats and a soft blanket and an Elizabeth George mystery in hand).

I'd read on a blog that Horowitz was a dull speaker, lacking in charisma. I saw nothing of the kind. He was persuasive, smart in the way he built up his argument, and passionate. A rather smallish man who seemed to float in an oversized--otherwise impeccable--ivory suit, who walked about the stage as he spoke, pausing to reflect or speeding and moving his arms when he got angry. Perfect pitch, irrefutable arguments and handling of facts--with one exception, that of the foundation of the Ottoman Empire.

All of the recorded silly talk happened after the lecture. The lecture itself was mercifully free of vapid "protesting." Only during the Q/A session two guys unfurrled a banner and shouted slogans. They were removed post-haste. Security was very tight, but I think the pro-Islamist crowd was taken aback by the sheer power of David's talk. Some of the questions were loughed off loudly by the audience, especially those coming from the bimbo vice-president of the MSA at GW (who looked like a "revert") who asked David if he knew that "jihad" meant "inner struggle" and if he thought she was "oppressed" as a Muslim woman.
Heck no, David said, why should you, you live in a democratic, secular society.

One other detail: I sat next to a woman who described herself as a "housewife from Virginia" and a military veteran who was there to "learn."
What a contrast to the young women, hidjabbed or not, at GW.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at October 28, 2007 5:07 PM

I was at Horowitz' GW talk (didn't regret it one bit though it was a chilly night, with a nasty drizzle, and I'd much rather preferred to be on my sofa with my cats and a soft blanket and an Elizabeth George mystery in hand).

I'd read on a blog that Horowitz was a dull speaker, lacking in charisma. I saw nothing of the kind. He was persuasive, smart in the way he built up his argument, and passionate. A rather smallish man who seemed to float in an oversized--otherwise impeccable--ivory suit, who walked about the stage as he spoke, pausing to reflect or speeding and moving his arms when he got angry. Perfect pitch, irrefutable arguments and handling of facts--with one exception, that of the foundation of the Ottoman Empire.

All of the recorded silly talk happened after the lecture. The lecture itself was mercifully free of vapid "protesting." Only during the Q/A session two guys unfurrled a banner and shouted slogans. They were removed post-haste. Security was very tight, but I think the pro-Islamist crowd was taken aback by the sheer power of David's talk. Some of the questions were loughed off loudly by the audience, especially those coming from the bimbo vice-president of the MSA at GW (who looked like a "revert") who asked David if he knew that "jihad" meant "inner struggle" and if he thought she was "oppressed" as a Muslim woman.
Heck no, David said, why should you, you live in a democratic, secular society.

One other detail: I sat next to a woman who described herself as a "housewife from Virginia" and a military veteran who was there to "learn."
What a contrast to the young women, hidjabbed or not, at GW.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at October 28, 2007 5:07 PM

"Imposed." Not "voted in," or even "instituted." "Imposed." + Well, at least she's honest about it. - JW

Well, that would be the only way Sharia could enter our society. Implications are that Muslims may be determined to have a show-down with us within the next five to ten years. I guess we got to be ready otherwise we are all doomed.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at October 28, 2007 5:09 PM

The guy in the video saying there were 500 people protested against the Saudie form of Islam in front of the Saudie Embassy, and media didn't pick it up!

That is a big-fat lie! Media is crying out loud for the Muslims to protests against Saudie flavored Islam. I searched for a video on Yahoo, and YOUTUBE, that could have been posted by them (organizers), there is nothing.

They are full of it.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at October 28, 2007 5:23 PM

I only give her half credit for anything she says, since, under Shariah Law, her opinion is only worth half of a male's.

So, I accept that she is a half wit.

And they built a whole city for them.

Mecca.

Send her home.

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 28, 2007 6:03 PM

dumbledoresarmy-

Thank you for your kind words and validation for me. There is a remarkable resemblance between this "Bonzai"! "Hakko ichiu"! "Allah Snackbar"! and Islam. It's trance over truth. The rituals and punishments for critical thought are also similar. (BTW, I wish I invented "Allah Snackbar" but it's the "handle" of one of the folks that post here.) With the Nazis it was also rituals and trance over objective truth.

The late American historian Iris Chang (The Rape of Nanjing) writes poignantly of the consequences of the Japanese "Hakko ichiu" in the real world. Her parents were there and fled to America. She went to the University of Illinois. She had depression problems and killed herself. She was in her 30's.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:xq0VJrx7qhcJ:www.irischang.net/+iris+chang+the+rape+of+nanking&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:dNLrZ7yYeL0J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Chang+iris+chang+the+rape+of+nanking&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 6:17 PM

Sharia law gets a BIG THUMBS DOWN; as we have our US Constitution to govern our country. Thanks but NO THANKS!!

Miss Zebra-Scarf, take your sharia poop-a-ganda and try selling it on the black market, along with everything else that's filthy and putrid. Evil sells, so you're bound to find those who are willing to exchange their soul for it's empty promises.

Posted by: champ at October 28, 2007 6:21 PM

Here is what she and other women may expect under Sharia dominance -

RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA -

One Saudi woman ignored the cancer growing in her breast for fear of seeing a male doctor. Another was summarily divorced on the mere suspicion she had the disease, while a third was dragged away from a mammogram machine — the technicians were men.

Breast cancer is considered a taboo in the religiously conservative Arab countries of the Persian Gulf even as the disease claims more and more victims. But some women are pushing for greater openness about the illness.

Their efforts received a boost last week: a visit from first lady Laura Bush to raise awareness about breast cancer.

On Wednesday, her second day in Saudi Arabia, Bush met with breast cancer survivors in the western seaport of Jiddah. As a token of appreciation, they presented her with a long black scarf — the kind Saudi women use to cover their hair in public — with pink ribbons symbolizing the disease attached to both ends.

They then helped her wrap it around her head, even though visiting female dignitaries are exempt from Saudi Arabia's strict Islamic dress codes for women.

Reporting lags
"No campaigns, ads or programs would have had the kind of impact that Laura Bush's trip has given to breast cancer awareness in the kingdom," said Samia al-Amoudi, a gynecologist who was diagnosed with the disease in 2006.

"Her trip will make people ask: 'Why is she here? For breast cancer? Is it that serious in this country?'" she added.

In Saudi Arabia, about 70 percent of breast cancer cases are not reported until they are at a very late stage, al-Amoudi said. In the U.S., most breast cancers are diagnosed much sooner, when they are more easily cured.

Al-Amoudi also said 30 percent of Saudi patients are under age 40, compared to 5 percent in the U.S.

Breast cancer is the No. 1 killer of women in the United Arab Emirates, according to official statistics, with many dying because the stigma surrounding the disease prevents early detection and treatment.

Breast cancer awareness campaigns are becoming more prevalent in the Arab world. In Lebanon, for instance, a public service TV announcement shows two round, lit candles. One of them is extinguished as an announcer reads statistics about the disease and reminds women to have mammograms.

But in the more conservative Persian Gulf region, such campaigns are less aggressive, not as organized and unlikely to use such bold imagery.

In Saudi Arabia, a campaign that began this month offers price discounts on mammograms and, in billboards, urges women: "Do the test now, for peace of mind."

'That disease'
The problem is not a matter of resources. The kingdom has some of the world's best medical equipment and doctors, and even the poor have access to free medical care.

But many Saudis, like other Arabs, won't even refer to cancer by name, calling it just "that disease" because of the fear surrounding the illness. Some families are afraid no one will marry their daughters if a mother's cancer becomes known.

For others, however, the greatest obstacle is the idea of women being examined by male doctors.

Al-Amoudi, who chronicled her struggle with cancer in a newspaper, recounted the story of a woman whose husband always pulls her away from the mammogram room because the technicians are male.

"The first thing women ask me when I tell them to get a mammogram is: 'Will the radiologist be male or female?'" she said.

Asma'a al-Dabag, a radiologist for 27 years, said the woman who was divorced turned out to be cancer-free, while the woman who had cancer kept her disease a secret even from her two brothers — both of them doctors.

"Some people feel that this is something private and if they talk about it, they become exposed," she said.

Al-Dabag said even many gynecologists rarely talk to patients about breast self-examinations or routine mammograms.

She also has yet to hear from the government about a proposal made months ago calling for research on why there are so many breast cancer patients in the kingdom and recommending that a center be established to help patients cope with all aspects of the illness.

Al-Amoudi has urged clergymen to "enlighten the people and take up the issue of women's health in their sermons."

Somaia al-Thagafi, 32, who discovered a lump in her breast while in London a couple of months ago, was happy with the support she received from her husband and immediate family. But other reactions were depressing.

A widow's fear
"Some treated me as if I was on my death bed," she said. "Others told me stories about women who died during reconstructive surgery. Some even told me to drop my treatment and take herbal medicines instead."

Fawzia al-Zewid, a 45-year-old mother of six, said her husband's support was overwhelming after she was diagnosed with the disease two years ago. When she began losing her hair from chemotherapy, he shaved her hair before shaving his. Her two young sons also shaved their heads.

"They didn't want me to have the only bald head in the house. What more support could you ask for?" said al-Zewid.

Her husband died of a heart attack last year.

"When he was alive, I wasn't afraid of breast cancer," she said. "Today, without his support, I am."

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at October 28, 2007 6:29 PM

"Miss Zebra-Scarf, take your sharia poop-a-ganda...."

Champ-

I really like that "poop-a-ganda". I am going to use it in the future and always give you credit for it. It's perfect in its truth.

Posted by: Frank at October 28, 2007 7:27 PM

Street theatre is a good idea. Is anyone interested in forming a group?

Posted by: Voltaire at October 28, 2007 8:09 PM

After reading about Arab Muslim women and breast cancer, the lesson is clear: Sharia law is bad for one's life and health.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at October 28, 2007 8:16 PM

Also as the Christian faith grows in the global south, and with it the sending of missionaries to the west to re-Christianize it, expect the Muslims to get more fearful bigtime.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at October 28, 2007 8:17 PM

ISLAM: AN IDEOLOGY OF HATE . . .

. . . of the "Other," a belief in violence, cruelty, rape, and warfare to achieve its ends--conversion of the world to its beliefs.

http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2007/10/islam-ideology-of-hate.html

http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 28, 2007 8:25 PM

Hey Frank -- feel free to use it as your own -- someone else probably thought of it before me anyway :-)

Posted by: champ at October 28, 2007 8:49 PM

Houston, we have a problem. No surprise, though. Post-9/11 there was a period of a few weeks where Islamists tried to hide their real intentions. That didn't last long. "You can't keep a good man down."

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at October 28, 2007 9:05 PM

Houston, we have a problem. No surprise, though. Post-9/11 there was a period of a few weeks where Islamists tried to hide their real intentions. That didn't last long. "You can't keep a good man down."

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at October 28, 2007 9:05 PM

The brainless little durkaditz masquerading as a human woman, needs a clue...so here it comes:
forget the fact that her "savior" is "prophesied" to emerge from the depths of the Earth...ooops, I mean "a well" (which serves to everyone else as A REALLY REALLY COLOSSALY BIG CLUE SOMETHING IS AMISS)...
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/24/152943.shtml
we're onto you & your death cult, and have been for a LONG time...not gonna fly here...
be gone, oh little lackey mouthpiece of fraud...and take your death cult with you.

Posted by: jcom972 at October 28, 2007 9:32 PM

I've seen Ms. or Mrs. Sharia before. Maybe she is a CAIR operative who goes from event to event.

Horowitz does a great deal to expose the threat of Islamism in the West. He is an excellent writer and does so much to raise awareness (for instance, organizing this important week of response to Islamofascism, which is gaining ground on campuses in imposing their will and silencing even the mildest of critics due to the unrelenting efforts of Islamists and their leftist useful idiots). I just wish Horowitz were as smooth a speaker and handled questions with as much equaniminity as Spencer. On the other hand, being Jewish, Horowitz probably faces much more visceral and immediate threats from Islamists and their allied leftist anti-Semites. So it must be quite unsettling to talk in such a climate of not only leftist/Islamist intimidation in general but the particularly hateful kind of intimidation that results when the Islamists and leftists see a Jew. It must be a particular affront to them.

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at October 28, 2007 9:43 PM

David Horowitz wrote the book (aka, the islamofascist roadmap) on them...all of them...
http://books.google.com/books?id=azE5qoXTgoAC&dq=book+islam+left+%22unholy+alliance%22&pg=PP1&ots=L-vBcKk3G6&sig=kPxECN1VmnTjVNZdXm39N6LjmXA&prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fas_q%3Dbook%2Bislam%2Bleft%26hl%3Den%26num%3D100%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch%26as_epq%3Dunholy%2Balliance%26as_oq%3D%26as_eq%3D%26lr%3D%26as_ft%3Di%26as_filetype%3D%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_nlo%3D%26as_nhi%3D%26as_occt%3Dany%26as_dt%3Di%26as_sitesearch%3D%26as_rights%3D%26safe%3Dimages&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=1&cad=legacy
He describes in discussion...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={8511DC3A-2E48-44BA-9B51-BD4C5F93608C}
It's all there...and more...

Posted by: jcom972 at October 28, 2007 9:56 PM

So let's see, the Muslim students in this video whined that the media only covers "the 1 percent" of the Muslims commiting terrorism, but didn't cover the protest at the Saudi embassy with the whopping 500 protestors.

Unless my math skills have seriously diminished (hey, it's hard to work with numbers this small), I estimate the protest to have drawn about 0.02% of the US Muslim population. That's using a mid-range 2.5 million estimate of Muslims in the US. If I were to use CAIR's figures, the number falls to around 0.007% of the US Muslim population. Gosh, who represents more Muslims -- "the 1 percent" who are terrorists or the 0.007 percent who protest them? And just where do the other 98.993 percent of Muslims stand?

500 people at a protest in DC, huh? To put that number in context, the Air and Space Museum down on the Mall averages about 14,000 tourist visitors per day. I am so not impressed.

Posted by: CJ at October 28, 2007 10:28 PM

Touche CJ

I went even further with the math for the claims made by CAIR-Canada because CAIR did their usual diatribe about how a Minority of the Population within a certain group do not represent the views of the collective .

And I agreed....the Muslims in canada are only about 0.00008 % of the Total population Globally and just because they claim their version of the Quran teaches peace and Human Rights , it would be bigotted of me to assume they are right while I have yet to know the exact views of Jihad and Shariah law from the 99.99992 % outside of canada that just might be the true follwers of Muhammed and islam.

Just ask Fibrahim Hooper at CAIR , he would never blame an entire group of non-Muslims for the actions of one person ( Jesus) that offend Allah and Muhammed by predicting a False-Prophet would arrive on earth and claim to speak for God and promise peace .

But don't tell CAIR that Jesus said that almost 600 years before Muhammed was born , it sets off the SJS ( sudden Jihad syndrome) where people want to kill stangers for Allah's cause to show how Peaceful the faith really is and they're dying to prove it.

Posted by: ala-sux at October 28, 2007 11:52 PM

And would they permit similar demostrations by other religious followers or secularists or even their leftist supporters in their system of Islamic government, Would they permit demostrations by pro choice, feminists, homosexuals? Would they permit demonstrations by those waging wars against America or other western countries.
Real irony is total stupidity of leftist organizations. As some one said, they are only united with jihadists because of common hatred of democracy. But those fools do not even care to ask their Muslim friends the reasons for their opposition to democracy?

Posted by: pagan at October 29, 2007 12:16 AM

And would they permit similar demostrations by other religious followers or secularists or even their leftist supporters in their system of Islamic government, Would they permit demostrations by pro choice, feminists, homosexuals? Would they permit demonstrations by those waging wars against America or other western countries.
Real irony is total stupidity of leftist organizations. As some one said, they are only united with jihadists because of common hatred of democracy. But those fools do not even care to ask their Muslim friends the reasons for their opposition to democracy?

Posted by: pagan at October 29, 2007 12:17 AM

Wimbledon Womble,

I think this is where we've all seen Mrs. Shari'a before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4t7r6VblM

(starts at 27 seconds)

Posted by: PRCS at October 29, 2007 12:51 AM

I think the sole focus now should be asking our Muslim friends, would they choose democracy or sharia? No other questions should be asked, nothing else, just this question will, I hope unsettle some of the apologists among non muslims. Then democratic governments and constitutions all over would have to ask themselves, can they permit democratic expression to those whose foremost aim is to put an end to democracy. Can they permit free speech, whose main aim is the end of free speech itself.

Posted by: pagan at October 29, 2007 1:14 AM

We've tried that...but they always go off on some monotonous monologue that doesn't really answer the question (and the tone suggests evasion) when a simple yes or no would've sufficed instead of boring us to death with a lecture...
(much like the old adage: "I asked him the time & he tells me how to build a clock, sheesh!" lol)
...especially when it doesn't answer a simple question that doesn't require such an overkill response.
lol

Posted by: jcom972 at October 29, 2007 3:18 AM

Maybe you should ask The Swedish girls how they like Sharia law? Non Muslims women are told not to provoke the Muslim males by provocative dress,anything that isn't a hajib.

The dream of multiculturalism is fading in Europe
The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, Unni Wikan, as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it." In January 2005, Norwegian media reported that 2004 saw the highest number or rape charges ever recorded in the capital city of Oslo. Strangely enough, there was now no mentioning of how immigrants were grossly overrepresented in rape cases. Why not? Unless there has been a sudden and unexplained drop in the number of immigrants raping Norwegian women between 2001 and 2004, which is unlikely, the statistics should be at least as staggering in 2005 as they were before. If they are not revealed, it can only mean that “somebody” didn’t like the numbers presented in 2001, and decided to bury them. That “somebody” must be a person high up in the police hierarchy, maybe even in the government. The same thing happens in Sweden. So in the end, the safety of young Scandinavian women is sacrificed in order to keep the glossy image of a multicultural society intact.

Posted by: gatekeeper96740 at October 29, 2007 4:59 AM

Maybe you should ask The Swedish girls how they like Sharia law? Non Muslims women are told not to provoke the Muslim males by provocative dress,anything that isn't a hajib.

The dream of multiculturalism is fading in Europe
The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, Unni Wikan, as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it." In January 2005, Norwegian media reported that 2004 saw the highest number or rape charges ever recorded in the capital city of Oslo. Strangely enough, there was now no mentioning of how immigrants were grossly overrepresented in rape cases. Why not? Unless there has been a sudden and unexplained drop in the number of immigrants raping Norwegian women between 2001 and 2004, which is unlikely, the statistics should be at least as staggering in 2005 as they were before. If they are not revealed, it can only mean that “somebody” didn’t like the numbers presented in 2001, and decided to bury them. That “somebody” must be a person high up in the police hierarchy, maybe even in the government. The same thing happens in Sweden. So in the end, the safety of young Scandinavian women is sacrificed in order to keep the glossy image of a multicultural society intact.

Posted by: gatekeeper96740 at October 29, 2007 5:00 AM

Maybe you should ask The Swedish girls how they like Sharia law? Non Muslims women are told not to provoke the Muslim males by provocative dress,anything that isn't a hajib.

The dream of multiculturalism is fading in Europe
The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, Unni Wikan, as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it." In January 2005, Norwegian media reported that 2004 saw the highest number or rape charges ever recorded in the capital city of Oslo. Strangely enough, there was now no mentioning of how immigrants were grossly overrepresented in rape cases. Why not? Unless there has been a sudden and unexplained drop in the number of immigrants raping Norwegian women between 2001 and 2004, which is unlikely, the statistics should be at least as staggering in 2005 as they were before. If they are not revealed, it can only mean that “somebody” didn’t like the numbers presented in 2001, and decided to bury them. That “somebody” must be a person high up in the police hierarchy, maybe even in the government. The same thing happens in Sweden. So in the end, the safety of young Scandinavian women is sacrificed in order to keep the glossy image of a multicultural society intact.

Posted by: gatekeeper96740 at October 29, 2007 5:00 AM

Maybe you should ask The Swedish girls how they like Sharia law? Non Muslims women are told not to provoke the Muslim males by provocative dress,anything that isn't a hajib.

The dream of multiculturalism is fading in Europe
The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, Unni Wikan, as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it." In January 2005, Norwegian media reported that 2004 saw the highest number or rape charges ever recorded in the capital city of Oslo. Strangely enough, there was now no mentioning of how immigrants were grossly overrepresented in rape cases. Why not? Unless there has been a sudden and unexplained drop in the number of immigrants raping Norwegian women between 2001 and 2004, which is unlikely, the statistics should be at least as staggering in 2005 as they were before. If they are not revealed, it can only mean that “somebody” didn’t like the numbers presented in 2001, and decided to bury them. That “somebody” must be a person high up in the police hierarchy, maybe even in the government. The same thing happens in Sweden. So in the end, the safety of young Scandinavian women is sacrificed in order to keep the glossy image of a multicultural society intact.

Posted by: gatekeeper96740 at October 29, 2007 5:02 AM

Assalamau LAikum all,

Mowasaperv asks if this character is me ...naseem...lol...NO, even though in am my 40s I am much preetier than her.

Also despite rumors to the contrary I live in Lahore, Pakistan....infact I have never been to Kaffur Amerike....however I note that Islam is coming to your dear neighbourhoods too....this is Allah Paak's will ...the quicker you accept this the better....and a coupla comments on JW is not really gonna change this.

The turning point in the Amerike will come I think when your president is a muslim or converts to Islam....laugh if you want to...but keep an open mind too.

I think what this person really means is that she wants sharia lite...not sharia itself.....only she doesn't know it yet.

Once she has seen some of the things I have she too will want to reject sharia....but then the over-riding mantra will kick in "Allah Paak is all powerful and all seeing"....and you don't want to be messing your chances/opportunities in your afterlife.

In particular the "last day" may well be in our lifetimes...and on that day Jesus PBuh will stand by the side of Allah SWT and Muhd PBUH and the falsehood & misbeliefs of the kaffur will be exposed....this is what it is all about....there are no faithless prisioners to be carried here...

It is about the certainty of the words of the Koran and the existance of Allah Paak.

In my view, whether Allah SWT regrets creating kaffur cannot be answered, however if world peace can be got with one one global religion goverened by divine laws which are diluted but islamic in nature AND accepted the world over....well this is the best compromise to Muhd's utopian society.

It is a pity that more muslims do not come on this forum...I would like to know if more of us are on the level to Sharia Lite....still thank you JW for allowing me to promote Sharia lite to the kaffur....at least I am trying to do my bit for world peace.

Posted by: Naseem at October 29, 2007 6:20 AM

Naseem,

Your Self-righteousness is overwhelming.Nevertheless, It's interesting to watch that turn into confusion. You're demonic Qura'an-infested poor brain, as one would expect, fails to understand that everyone here actually takes your threats seriously. No one here doubts that Islam is spreading, and you making more of such threats only proves that you're either too stupid, or merely naive to understand that this is exactly what this site is fighting.

Everyone here is quite familiar with the "lite of Sharia", and is very sick and tired of constant demand for it to be "imposed" on their dark societies of freedom. How could you teach westerners about the "lite of Sharia"? they were put headlong through the encounter by its merciless armies of terrorists and Jihadis! (so were lots of muslims, such as Ahmadians).

And now, that you've made your point very clear, you could go back to the kitchen for that is your role under the light of Islam, making Biriani. And just make sure you drown yourself in your burka if you leave the house , for if an "enlightened" Talibani sees through it, you won't be able to cover your head anymore, for it would no longer be there.

Al salamu alykum

Posted by: night_side_eclipse at October 29, 2007 7:30 AM

You may all see her as an empty head in a hajib but I see her as a muslim who has won the” inner” jihad. She is now a complete slave of allah, and she will do and say anything to please allah. And we know from every day example what these slaves of allah are capable of doing and I don’t want to list the many things they do every day as you know already. As shown on this site http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Posted by: desidude at October 29, 2007 9:19 AM

And as for that non hijabed muslimah, she may look like a secularist but she clearly loves to be like the hijabed winner of inner jihad. becuse she knows she is not a very good muslim, yet. she would than show her true dedication as the slave of allah as oncce again on this site ,
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Posted by: desidude at October 29, 2007 9:27 AM

Nasseem

just how do you think that you Islamic peasants can somehow take over the west and make it part of the ummha - We comtrol this world because We are smarter and better than you people.
You take our apathy for weakness but you are very mistaken - I told you before if you want to see through the mist into the future and what will really happen remember the basics of human characteristics and drives.
You people have NO POWER as ALL power in the end is military and you are so pathetic you have NO technology - in fact you have more or less what a seventh century band of thieves would have had then.
Oh I could go on but hear this - this will end with the destruction of Islam - its inevitable!"

Posted by: johnmacII at October 29, 2007 11:46 AM

Naseem -- you are like the solicitor who will not go away, as you come on here and constantly pander your deceitful doctrine of a softer side of Islam with your "shaira lite" BS. And to think that our president, or any other US president, would actually convert to Islam only shows how delusional U R.

You stated: "In particular the "last day" may well be in our lifetimes...and on that day Jesus PBuh will stand by the side of Allah SWT and Muhd PBUH and the falsehood & misbeliefs of the kaffur will be exposed..."

I agree that we are probably living in the "last days", but what I don't agree with is that Jesus is some lieutenant in Islams Army from Hell. I have news for you: Allah and Muhammad will NOT be returning with Jesus Christ. Your wrethched and warped cult has demoted Jesus to some sort of side-kick of Muhammad's, but that is not who He is. He is Lord of Lords, and Kings of Kings, and one day every knee will bow to Him -- including Muhammad the Murderer and his followers & band of thieves and murderers.

And when Christ returns Muhammad will be watching from the portals of hell, not riding alongside Him as you suppose, and he will watch as Christ defeats allah the enemy and casts his sorry lying ass into hell to join Muhammad where they can feast together on their lies, and anyone else foolish enough to be snookered by their malarky.

Pander your poison somewhere else, we are not buying.

Posted by: champ at October 29, 2007 12:58 PM

Let the durkaditz dream on,
She obviously doesn't get out much, or she wouldn't have issued such a veiled threat like that.
She obviously hasn't done her homework either, lest she know the math, which bodes very badly for her ilk here in the US.
As I said before...
"we ain't played cowboys & durkas...yet"

Posted by: jcom972 at October 29, 2007 1:51 PM

PRCS and Wellington,

You say that “Muslims born here in America cannot be deported because they are American citizens. Neither could virtually all of those who have acquired American citizenship after coming here.”

Is there not a problem with this?

What about the oath you take when you become an American citizen?

Effectively a contract of citizenship.

Which still applies when you are second generation.

I.e. all Americans have citizenship under certain constitutional limits.

Does it not mean you agree to abide by the American Constitution?

If you try to set up Sharia law does it not mean you have broken your contract of citizenship?

Would it not be legal and right for the American Government to revoke that citizenship?

The first Amendment covers elements of Islam which can genuinely be classified as religious i.e. the right to pray to a deity called Allah.
It does not cover elements of Islam which can be genuinely be classified as a political system i.e. Sharia law

Would it not be legal, constitutional, moral and right to re-settle such people in a country of their choice where they can live in a Sharia State?

Posted by: Odyessus at October 29, 2007 5:56 PM

Naseem wrote:

Once she has seen some of the things I have she too will want to reject sharia....but then the over-riding mantra will kick in "Allah Paak is all powerful and all seeing"....and you don't want to be messing your chances/opportunities in your afterlife.
..........................

Even the propagandist Naseem realizes how evil Sharia is, and only submits to it out of fear. She then suggests "Sharia lite". So, Naseem, what exactly would "Sharia lite" consist of? Only having one limb cut off for theft? Selling off the little ones to arranged marriages only after the age of nine? Beheading rather than stoning for rape victims?

Also, it is clear that there is nver enough Islam. If we "Kuffar" were ever craven enough to accept "Sharia lite" how long would it be before there was a cry for "purer" Islam and stricter Sharia?

Nassem also wrote:

In particular the "last day" may well be in our lifetimes...and on that day Jesus PBuh will stand by the side of Allah SWT and Muhd PBUH and the falsehood & misbeliefs of the kaffur will be exposed.
......................

Another bit of ugliness. When Muslims talk about revering Jesus--Isa to them--they are not talking about the same Jesus familiar to the non-Muslim world (whether you are a Christian or not).

No, Isa's main role in Islam is violent and harsh--to return at the "last day" and smite Christians for their "falsehoods and misbeliefs", which consist of believing in Jesus as a peace-maker and and Son of God.

Not the sort of thing they tend to emphasize at "Inter-Faith" events at the Mosque . . .

Posted by: gravenimage at October 29, 2007 11:33 PM

"Would it not be legal, constitutional, moral and right to re-settle such people in a country of their choice where they can live in a Sharia State?"
Odyessus

My wife is a naturalized American citizen, as is her daughter.

There is a 1967 law that prohibits the revocation of their citizenship, except for very limited situations. Just thinking seditious thoughts, or even making seditious statements, don't qualify.

"Which still applies when you are second generation."

Second generation means that the individual is an American citizen by birth; not by the status of one's parents.

Even the 'act' of attempting to set up Shari'a law would not result in citizenship revocation and deportation unless certain conditions were met, and not until judicial proceedings were completed.

A VERY limited number of Naturalized Muslim Americans would ever be deported under that scenario.

More likely, American born Muslims would make such an attempt (and probably through legislation) in order to avoid such a possibility.

Posted by: PRCS at October 30, 2007 1:02 AM

I did not know "Mr. Ed" had a sister?

The SKANK needs to go to ANY islamic nation and stop threatening SEDITION against the USA by demanding sharia law here.

She basically just said she wanted to overthrow the legal government here and should be arrested.

Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at October 30, 2007 10:27 AM

She means the USA, I am sure of it.

I want this killer-Zombie bitch OUT OF MY COUNTRY NOW AND FOREVER.

America isn't HER country. It's mine (my ancestors were signers of The Declaration of Independence, not hers). And she has to go.

Posted by: pythagoras at October 30, 2007 2:02 PM

PRCS,

You state that

”More likely, American born Muslims would make such an attempt (and probably through legislation) in order to avoid such a possibility.”

That is exactly what we must guard against.

America fought a Civil War in order to protect the Constitution, in which over half a million people died.
No constitutional democracy can tolerate being dismantled from within.

As for the 1967 law I am sure it can be revoked.

A toughening up of the laws allowing deportation for Sharia based sedition is, I believe, legal, constitutional, moral and right.

Posted by: Odyessus at October 30, 2007 5:22 PM