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Joe Kaufman did not threaten bodily injury to anyone at Muslim Family Day. He alleges that some groups behind it had ties to terror groups, and led a peaceful protest. Now apparently his protest itself is being taken as an incitement to violence, which is the first step toward criminalizing any discussion of Islamic jihad and Islamic supremacism -- it will be termed "incitement" in itself, as we saw with Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, and thus outlawed.
For this reason everyone who is concerned about the spread of Islamic supremacism in the United States needs to stand with Joe and contribute to his legal defense. For now, please use this address:
Americans Against Hate
1440 Coral Ridge Dr. #404
Coral Springs, FL 33071-5433
Or use the AAH contributions page.
By Nathaniel Jones in the Star-Telegram (thanks to all who sent this in):
ARLINGTON -- A Florida man who protested Muslim Family Day at Six Flags over Texas last month is prohibited from threatening or harming event participants, a district judge ruled late Wednesday.Several local Muslim organizations, including the DFW Islamic Educational Center, on Monday asked state District Judge Ken Curry to bar Joe Kaufman, co-founder of Americans Against Hate, from causing or inciting violence against their members.
Curry said the groups' request was too vague and could not be enforced, but he issued an injunction prohibiting Kaufman from threatening and causing bodily injury to organizers of the event.
The ruling shows that justice was served, said Jamal Qaddura, a leader in Arlington's Islamic community who helped organize the event.
Kaufman said Wednesday that he was unaware of the ruling and would have to consult with his attorneys before commenting.
Curry also ruled that Texas courts have jurisdiction in this matter, paving the way for Islamic organizations in North Texas to seek libel damages from Kaufman.
The groups said Kaufman's Web site was used to paint all Muslims participating in Muslim Family Day as radical fanatics who used the event to spread anti-American hatred.
Kaufman visited Six Flags on Oct. 14 to lead a protest against Muslim Family Day, an event celebrating the end of Ramadan, a period of Islamic holy days marked by fasting and prayer.
Posted by Robert at November 1, 2007 10:46 AM
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I wasnt even aware Six Flags had a Muslim day.
Posted by: Elric66
at November 1, 2007 11:04 AM
Where do I sign up for his legal defense fund....
Posted by: rejjie
at November 1, 2007 11:05 AM
I just reviewed the article.. my question was answered...
Posted by: rejjie
at November 1, 2007 11:07 AM
Someone should go to the same judge and request an injunction preventing every Islamic mosque within the scope of that court's jurisdiction from causing or inciting violence, or threatening bodily harm to non-Muslims and anyone who questions Islam or insults Mohammed (the poobah).
Posted by: Karl2
at November 1, 2007 11:22 AM
Be interesting to review the curriculum and texts used in islamic education courses conducted in Texas. Be careful what doors you seek to open.
Posted by: MP
at November 1, 2007 11:32 AM
Karl2 I was about to post an identical commment and saw yours.
Yes, this does set a precedent. Any imam who uses hateful and racist language during his preaching ought to have an injunction slapped on his ass.
It would be amusing to find a mosque in the same jurisdiction as this judge and request a injunction against it for disseminating hateful, violent, misogynist inspiring literature sure to be found therein.
at November 1, 2007 11:46 AM
Robert, I would take out the suite # for security reasons. Would be better for him to set up a Paypal account for donations.
Regarding the rest, Islamists are using our own laws against us. They can preach about killing us in the streets, yet we're not allowed to protest against them. I'm so bloody sick of this.
Posted by: Bonniea
at November 1, 2007 12:08 PM
Kauffman's aggressive personal style does not serve him well in this case. While his message is benign enough, he is easy to paint as a menace because of his intense demeanor. If a lawyer he needs, it should be one who can speak calmly and rationally to represent this case, not shout down the opposition or use aggressive tactics -- that is exactly, I think, what his Islamist opponents would like to see. They can't prove anything by Kauffman's words, but they can use his style to dramatic effect and bias the judgement of the court.
As for the court issuing a restraint, from one perspective, this says nothing at all. " to bar Joe Kaufman, co-founder of Americans Against Hate, from causing or inciting violence against their members" says nothing that is not already enshrined in law and applies to all citizens. In other words, the court has apparently refused to apply any special sanction against Kauffman.
From another perspective, however, by making this pronouncement, the court has, in effect, implied acceptance of the proposition that Kauffman shows some tendency to engage in such illegal activity. What evidence to this effect, I wonder, has been brought forward?
More to the point, how can such a ruling be brought down while Kauffman remains unaware of it? Has he been tried in absentia, or have hearings been held in which his character has been defamed, to which he has not been invited to make submissions?
Something really smelly is happening here, and it doesn't sound legal. I'm not an american citizen, but I have always understood that, in both civil and criminal American courts, a person cannot be shut out of proceedings in which charges or actions could be brought against him, without the opportunity to defend himself, except under extraordinary circumstances -- which I can't see applying here.
It appears that Kauffman's rights have been violated here, and the first order of business for his lawyer may well be to get to the bottom of what happened, maybe even bringing countercharges.
Posted by: Archimedes2
at November 1, 2007 12:37 PM
One can bet on Joe. Why the useless injunction ?
Posted by: dgene
at November 1, 2007 1:07 PM
Curry also ruled that Texas courts have jurisdiction in this matter, paving the way for Islamic organizations in North Texas to seek libel damages from Kaufman.
That is until the discovery phase starts and Kaufmans attorney starts asking questions about writings and speeches of D/FW area mosques and imams, along with sources of funding of said mosques and imams.
Then they suddenly decide that they've made their point and elect to withdraw the suit.
Posted by: walterc
at November 1, 2007 1:23 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10312007/news/regionalnews/swastika_found_at_columbia_553888.htm
Standing up to jihad ignites ire of the nazis
Posted by: GrennBeck
at November 1, 2007 1:36 PM
From the article
...he issued an injunction prohibiting Kaufman from threatening and causing bodily injury to organizers of the event
Is Judge Curry implying that anyone other than Kaufman is not prohibited from threatening and causing bodily injuries to the organizers of the event? (No-one has, and I'm sure no-one will). What a weird injunction.
at November 1, 2007 5:44 PM
I'm not Joe Kaufman ,niether are all the other people who have commented here so lets hope these polishers are in it for the long haul.
The only crime i see is the one others have mentioned and that is Joes rights being violated.Also the crime of the politicians having thier nose ,obviously,permanantly inserted into a certain crevace of a certain entity.
On another note.If it were to happen in my town with these jihadists running around with thier kill infedels signs i would have not a second thought of filing charges of incitement and hate speech.I also will not hesitate to file a lawsuit....believe it.If the proper officials did nothing about it then you can't believe the amount of stink i would raise...far more than any polisher can while rubbing that tightly coiled pile on the neighbors lawn.
It's the game of Jihad baby.You economic jihad me i economic jihad you.You want legal jihad we can have legal jihad.
I see no reason why this can't be done all over the west and i see no benefit in helping to pave the one way street of oppression and bigotry and plain old hatred by not turning the tables.
Posted by: Dar al-harb
at November 1, 2007 5:48 PM
Did I understand the Judge correctly ?
He admits to the common knowledge that Islam only expect Muslims to be Peaceful 1/12th of the year because of "Holy days" ( or is it "Holy-Daze" ) during Ramadan yet he takes sides with the 11/12th's of the year where the Islamofascists within the Muslim population want the "Right" for the "6 Flying-Imams" to board a Airplane while acting out all tyhe signs of a well-founded Potential threat the Hijack the Plane and slaughter 1000's of non-Muslim civilians .
I just want to understand if I've got this right because more and more Judges seem to live in fear of actually convicting the "Guilty" Jihadists that admit to the killing of Americans for Alllah while the same Judge will have no quams over assuming a "Guilty" based on an "Alleged" harm against Muslims if the Alleged person is a non-Muslim .
We in Canada have the same crap but have put up with it for decades now and my example of the PC madness is the slaughtering of 240 Canadian civilians by Sikh Terrorists in British Columbia and the "Squamish-5" eco-terrorists that used a truck-bomb to attack a business in Toronto and ,killed 1 person while injuring several immigrant workers on the Night Shift that were cleaning staff.
And what's the difference ( or deference ) for the Justice meted out you ask?
When the Squamish-5 ( Squamish B.C.) were arrested they had a quick trial on valid evidence and phone-taps to back it up with an admission to the Terrorism via a truck-bomb , OH Yeah...and they were young white punks with a grudge against the Governments and wanted their version of Justice .
BUT , when the same type of evidence was there for the Sikh terrorists in B.C. that tried to plant bombs on 3-planes leaving canada which luckyly only work on the 747 at 35'000 feet , the Politicians and Police feared the "Racism" labels and waited until after the fact to admit they had foreknowledge of these plots but didn't feel a Conviction for the attempted terrorism would hold up once in front of a Judge .
Plus....it took 18 years and about 80'000'000.00 dollars for an investigation and Trial which ended up as an aquital for delayed Justice and old testamony from the witnesses that the Sikh's hadn't killed-off yet or threaten with death into a silence or sudden lose of memory , and the only person to do jail-time was the person the confessed to making the bombs for the accused while not knowing exactly how they were to be used ( keep in mind that in B.C. explosives are common for remote expansion of Industries and some land owners willing to pay for a huge tree stump to be removed very quickly) by the Sikh males that were tied to the bombings for Political reasons against a Government back home that need Justice meted out by them right here in canada.
Just follow me here on the logic for the Air-India bombing the slaughtered a total of 329 Humans which included close to 60 grand-children
on a visit to their Parents homeland to see their roots and meet them .
A Judge will convict a man for "Allegedly" building the bombs for the "Alleged" Terrorists
solely on his confession that proved the two Sikh males planned the slaughter and received the bombs that matched the evidence from remains of the Japanese explosion at the airport from a delay that cause a bombing on the ground that killed baggage handlers as well , BUT .... when a Judge must convict the actually person that used the bombs and murdered 240 Canadian Citizens that same Judge rules on a lack of evidence for "Guilt" and the two men walk away to kill again or promote their Perverted version of Sikhism as we now hear from other Sikhs that did nothing to stop them during the early stages of the plan.
The Muslims in America that want to stir-up more bogus "Islamophobia" reports to further their
perverted version of islam as career-victims of "The Jooooo's" have caught on to the spineless PC Judges and Politicians that are willing to let more Americans be slaughtered on the Altar of Multiculturalism just to stay in power for one more Term .
Imagine that , selling your Soul to get 4-more-years in power only to one day discover that the Islamofascists will one day kill them for Allah's cause because the Quran says that all People of the Book shall perish as enemies of islam that sold their Souls to the Devil when they rejected Muhammed as the "Real" prophet who never actually prophecised anything new outside his own Egotistical version of Reality .
Not all the Muslims in America are the problem , it is the so-called handful of misunderstanders of the Quran that are being enabled by the PC mind set and MSM who fear talking about the Jihadists in the Room that can do far more Human carnage than the Eliphant in the room which merely represents the denial of others and yet doesn't suffer from Sudden Jihad Syndrome as many of the un-true Muslim suicide bomber suffer from.
Do your best to fight these Hijackers of islam because the Muslims I see here in the West have neither the stomach or backbone to stop them or are agreeing with it by their deafening silence
to condemn the actual Terrorists and not just the Acts of terror that always come with a "BUT" to justify middle east violence.
The Judge was wrong...PERIOD , and sadly while he thinks he was Right in the Judgement against Joe , the Judge may end up being "Dead-Right" when it's him on a Plane with 6 Imams praising Allah to purify themselves to enter paradise at 500 mph .
Posted by: ala-sux
at November 1, 2007 6:45 PM
Another in a looooooong line of persons who so decisively belong on the "dhimmi of the week" list. Well then, to the judge I say,
"Heres your sign"
"Kuffirs of the world, Unite!"
"Stop Muslim immigration now"
"Islam, abusing women since 622AD"
at November 1, 2007 7:04 PM
"Now apparently his protest itself is being taken as an incitement to violence"
Yep. we are at the cross roads here.
Just the fact that if anyone picks on Mo, they(the Muslims) go nuts
makes them(the Muslims)rule over non-Muslims.
That is what they do all over the world, get violent when questioned by dhimmi's.
Yep, as long as we have judges who are ass's the only way to stop this is take legal action against the Quran, after all that book in the hands of weak minded men is an incitement to violence against non Muslims.
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA
at November 1, 2007 8:46 PM
This is pure Kaufmano-phobia!
at November 1, 2007 10:11 PM
So the judges tells the guy to obey the existing laws?
That means something?
But, every case that can expose more and more of the terroristic contents of the Koran -and the anti-Constituinonal tenets of Islam- is a good case.
Read the Koran-
Spread the Dread.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at November 1, 2007 10:25 PM
erratum:
anti-Constitutional
(Typing too fast in disgust at this.)
Posted by: profitsbeard
at November 1, 2007 10:28 PM
I am not a lawyer, and the US legal system is not the same as ours, but this sounds like a "preliminary injunction" where one side applies to the judge for protections prior to the case being heard. The other side doesn't have to be present. The injunction provides protections to prevent irreversible harm while awaiting trial. Generally it implies that the plaintiff's case, as presented by their lawyers (who are sworn officers of the court, so should not lie or deceive the court), is reasonably strong, and the benefits of the injunction outweigh the harm caused by it.
Since this injunction is basically to obey normal law, it doesn't imply much judgement against Joe Kaufman.
Of course Mr Kaufman will have to defend the actual case properly with good lawyers.
Posted by: davidp
at November 1, 2007 10:49 PM
Of course Mr Kaufman will have to defend the actual case properly with good lawyers.
Posted by: davidp
At great expense on his part. Says the proverbial nail to the hammer.
Posted by: Aunt Bea
at November 2, 2007 9:43 AM
Well, now it's SEVEN Flags Over Texas, the seventh being the green Islamic flag.
How about Christian Day, or Jewish Day ... then we have to have Wiccan Day, Satanist Day, Atheist Day ...then White Day, Black Day...
Aren't we all getting just a bit tired of all this profoundly corrosive-to-Democracy Multi-Culti nonsense?!
Posted by: DavePA
at November 3, 2007 2:03 AM
What do you expect in a country where the secretary of state has come out saying "disrespect for the holy Koran is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, tolerated by the United States. We honor the sacred books of all the world's great religions. Disrespect for the Holy Koran is abhorrent to us all," Rice said in a statement she delivered before testifying in Congress May 12.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at November 3, 2007 9:41 AM
If "aggressive personal styles" are soon to be an excuse to jail people in the USA, I had better get fitted for handcuffs myself.
Outlaw Islam.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Posted by: Foehammer
at November 5, 2007 11:45 AM
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