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This story has been going around for several days now, but the threatening video is still there. Google, which owns YouTube now, saw fit to remove the video of my talk at Dartmouth, but this one, with its death threat, is apparently just fine by them.
From the Daily Mail (thanks to all who sent this in):
A leading opponent of plans to build Europe's largest mosque in east London has seen a chilling "obituary" for him posted on the internet.The film on video-sharing website YouTube is entitled In memory of Councillor Alan Craig and contains pictures of him with his wife and two young daughters.
It was apparently posted in retaliation for his opposition to the mosque.
Mr Craig has now contacted police in fear of his family's safety and demanded that the video be taken down.
Islamic group Tablighi Jamaat wants to open the 12,000-capacity "mega-mosque" in Newham near the main 2012 Olympic site.
The FBI has described the group as "a recruiting ground" for al Qaeda, which it denies.
Yes, and this video makes that denial all the more convincing, eh wot?
Posted by Robert at November 7, 2007 10:35 AM
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Pretty much confirms Google/Youtubes allience with jihad.
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at November 7, 2007 11:21 AM
If I was Mr Craig, I would sue.
Posted by: Elric66 at November 7, 2007 11:23 AM
People don't seem to get it. These radical Jihadists HATE America, Christianity, Israel and anyone else that gets in their way. And this hate isn't just random decision, it is the product of heavy indoctrination and training that is pervasive in radical Middle Eastern countries.
Radical hate is spewed on public television and radio, just look at the videos posted on TheirOwnWords.com. These aren't selected from some radical website or terrorist group, this is the mainstream media over there.
Posted by: jihadistalert at November 7, 2007 11:34 AM
What? Nobody recognizes this as a message of peace and love? How Islamophobic!
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 7, 2007 11:35 AM
A quarter of a million of us didn't need justification for our concern, but if there were any doubt, this has confirmed the undesirable credentials of those who want this mosque developed.
at November 7, 2007 11:38 AM
Google is suspect. I use google as infrequently as possible.
Posted by: duh_swami at November 7, 2007 11:47 AM
Fundamental islam is truly evil.
Britain, you welcomed the islamist yourself.
You didn't listen to, in fact you vilified, Enoch Powell.
(you even screwed up in your creation of Pakistan)
You have sown the wind and now you have reaped the whirlwind.
What a terrible threat to this English family man.
What terrible delineaments of your future when you will live in fear, if that can be called living.
at November 7, 2007 11:47 AM
Sounds like a few suspects need to be waterboarded to uncover the plot against this British Official...
England - please call out the football fans from teams like Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, etc. to be ready to stomp/shave beards of the few dozen muslim thugs the next time they call for Great Britains' demise.
at November 7, 2007 11:49 AM
Why hasn't Youtube taken this vile islamic video down yet ?
Posted by: dgene at November 7, 2007 11:50 AM
3 options for Muslims
- embrace Christianity,
- leave Europe,
- face death.
The only way to save Europe.
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 11:52 AM
"embrace Christianity"
Given the Muslim concept of taqiyya, I'm not sure this is a viable option. That leaves two choices.
Posted by: PMK at November 7, 2007 11:56 AM
I flagged it as inappropriate hate speech and then explained why, sheesh. Lots of comments underneath it saying the same thing. They'll leave it up because it's getting lots of hits. I agree with whoever said he should sue, that may make them sit up and listen. Money talks....
Posted by: gymgal at November 7, 2007 12:00 PM
Does this surprise me?
It would have surprise me if this were the only death threat he receives.
If you're not for Islam, then you're against Islam and if you're against Islam then you must be destroyed.
20% of the world in a war to conquer and destroy the other 80% of the world. (Satan has chutzpah)
That's Islam. Submit or die.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2007 12:01 PM
Time is ebbig away for moderates. I think most would rather elect Nazi's than live under Islamic rule. Looks like it will be one or the other. Great choices our leaders are giving us huh?
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 12:02 PM
"Jihad starts from the moment your mother gave birth to you."
That about sums up the muslim mentality, and the danger we face.
Ethoman said:" 3 options for Muslims
- embrace Christianity,
- leave Europe,
- face death.
The only way to save Europe
Same could be said for North America too.
at November 7, 2007 12:03 PM
Pay attention if you get notices in your mail about proposed projects in your neighborhood. If it is for a mosque, call and write your city counsellor and mayor. If you go to a public meeting to oppose it, use caution and try to disguise yourself. Park farther away and walk so you don't get followed.
A big honking mosque went up in a neighborhood very near mine recently, a nice, mainly Italian and Jamaican neighborhood where they get along well. Now the area is looking really run-down, halal restaurants, etc. appearing, scraggly bearded men and blacksheeted women up and down all the streets around where you never saw them before. Jamaicans LOVE to party and the women love to dress up with their elaborate hairstyles and clothes. I can't see them beeing to keen on their new mohammedan neighbors if they try to cramp their style.
You do NOT want a mosque in your neighborhood. The constant comings and goings and the parking hassles can't help your property value any I'm sure and will drive you crazy.
Posted by: j_not_a at November 7, 2007 12:06 PM
Google should take it down, but on the other hand, Google should leave it up.
Let everybody have a good look at this mohammedan death threat against a loyal, patriotic, God-fearing British man and his lovely wife and daughters.
As Hugh F might have written:
Look!
See!
Study!
Remember!
(and pass it on)
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2007 12:07 PM
Unfortunatly, Walterc it may come to that here as well, just Europe is further along than us by a few decades.
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 12:07 PM
The people at Google may be good business people, but they don't understand history. All if history (from Aztec Empire, Arab Empire, Spanish Empire, to Zulu Empire, etc.) is the record of the conquest and subduing of some lately "indigenous culture, indigenous people"-and very often that is accompanied by the genocide of the indigenous culture, indigenous people.
Current PC, for political reasons, pretends that this is a unique pattern to European peoples. Actually, the pattern is universal. And so, we see chuckle-head Muslims, and other chuckle-heads, try to shame the some lately indigenous culture, indigenous non-Muslim people, by a pose of self-righteous purity. A lot of ignorant people have been fooled by this Muslim bullshit.
They don't know history. The truth is that Islam is probably the most effective Imperialist system (mainly Arab Imperialism since the former indigenous cultures bow there, but also Ottoman Empire) in history. The proposed Mosque is representative of a typical pattern in history.
Posted by: Frank
at November 7, 2007 12:20 PM
I should add that I believe most Muslims fool themselves that they are out of this pattern of history. Their culture produces a mind-set that is almost immune from logic and self-criticism. It's a very disturbed culture that is quite similar to the Nazi and Japanese "Hokko Ichiu" beliefs of the 20th century. This rationalization of conquest, exploitation, etc. is a universal pattern that the entire human race must face as a threat to the species. We can no longer afford this crap.
Posted by: Frank at November 7, 2007 12:28 PM
This is the future we are creating for our ggrand children.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMfi28SxJ_4
at November 7, 2007 12:41 PM
It is clear that the same mahometan insiders at google who removed Robert's talk are going to see to it that the death threat video stays up. I'm with Elric66. Since google obviously has long since abandoned its "First, do no evil" credo (probably gone to credo purgatory, along with W's "either you're with us or you're agains us"), maybe a hundred million dollar lawsuit would get the bastards' attention.
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 7, 2007 12:45 PM
BTW, I don't see Zionism as mainly in this pattern because it is essentially a defensive ideology and had its roots in the purchase of real estate (it was bid up like crazy) from the great Arab landowners of the "Palestine" region. The Jews took crap real estate (Tel-Avil was sand dunes) and made it look like Florida. This crap that "the Jews stole our land" is crap. In fact (I forget his name) one of the big sales of land to Zionists was made by one of the people who was negotiating with the British (1936) to stop the sale of land to the Zionists.
What the war of 1948 represents is an attempt to get a two-fer from the Jewish people. The Arabs wanted to sell them the land and really steal it from the Jews.
However, I would add this as a warning to the Arabs: you were wrong once in the Two-fer game. You will be wrong again if you think you will exterminate the Jews. You will fail. (BTW, I'm an American Mc-not Jewish.)
Posted by: Frank at November 7, 2007 12:45 PM
"Unfortunatly, Walterc it may come to that here as well, just Europe is further along than us by a few decades."
My point exactly. Let's take action and not wait until North America is in the position that Europe is in now.
Posted by: walterc at November 7, 2007 12:54 PM
...it is clear to me...you do not want these people in your neighborhood...Ban Muslim Immigration...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at November 7, 2007 12:57 PM
Wow, the things muslims give to the world just astounds me. Where would we all be without them?
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at November 7, 2007 1:02 PM
walterc
We see it, and I have done much in the way of educating those around me, but it seems we have to wait untill this gets out of hand before anything can be done. To date I have woken up about 4-5 of my friends to this situation. This has taken years of breaking down the misinformation that our government, and society at large has spent decades teaching. I have encouraged them to pass the knowledge along to thier friends as well, and I speak opnely about my opinions in public and at work. At risk to my employment ... etc. Nothing else we can do at this point but educate, educate, educate and speak up about what we know. The process is painfully slow.
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 1:05 PM
"Wow, the things muslims give to the world just astounds me. Where would we all be without them?
Posted by: mrockroll1969"
...better off....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at November 7, 2007 1:18 PM
This truly pisses me off and makes my blood BOIL. We all need to protest You Tube and stop using Google as a search engine because Google owns You Tube I believe.
Posted by: Bonniea at November 7, 2007 1:24 PM
@Bonniea
It's impossible to boycott You Tube and Google. Too goddamned big. Too important.
But on the bright side, your blood is not the only blood that's boiling. The video will get more and more and more viewings in the coming weeks and months and that means that more and more infidel blood will be boiling.
So go ahead, I say to the jihadi scum, PISS US OFF! Go ahead! The more pissed off infidels the better. When a critical mass of pissed-off infidels is reached, then we can turn back the tide of islamic expansion.
First, we need our blood to boil.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2007 1:53 PM
Wow. Click on the poster and check out his other YouTube contributions!
He has a "tribute" to various christians that were killed in Jihad attacks, that appears at first to be lauding them as martyrs (which his Islamic commenters don't like at all!), but ends with an Islamic polemic against Christianity and the falsehood of christian belief.
Check out his "muslim boxing" video. IT's basically a lecture, talking about how not to do violence to another ... muslim. And how muslims need to learn these fighting skills because of "the time we're living in", and "the increasing attacks on muslims". Very enlightening.
Posted by: Archimedes2 at November 7, 2007 2:14 PM
The comments on his posts are a hoot, providing welcome catharsis for counter-jihadists and other sundry intelligent citizens. Please feel free.
Posted by: johndoe at November 7, 2007 2:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CvwfnqlbPQ
wonder what would happen to a Chrisian if they did this in a Mosque.
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 3:06 PM
"...it is clear to me...you do not want these people in your neighborhood...Ban Muslim Immigration...
Posted by: exsgtbrown"
Pretty much.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/evaluator/72virgins.gif
Posted by: Stinkyinfidel at November 7, 2007 3:13 PM
My favorite post from the thread following the video.
peterBNP
Even if the mosque is built then when the BNP come to power we will rip it down and build a pig farm ontop of it.
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 3:46 PM
FOR LOTS OF INFO ON THE VIDEO MAKER, AND HIS MOSQUE IMAM...
http://godhelpbritain.blogspot.com
Posted by: BritneyBritish at November 7, 2007 4:00 PM
ethoman, walterc,
It could make its way to America, but the big difference is the fact that America has this thing call the 2nd Admendment and there are many Americans armed to their teeth.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 7, 2007 5:09 PM
They hand out death threats like we hand out party invitations. Just another day in the life of a "peace loving" terrorist.
Posted by: champ at November 7, 2007 5:16 PM
Bigcatgirl
The guy that posted this video on youtube has a favorite T.V. show. Guess where it is produced. Never gonna guess. Would you believe .... Texas ... probably Crawford lol! Sorry but America is now pumping Islamic T.V. into the U.K. I'm feeling sick.
http://www.islamictube.net/view_video.php?viewkey=1143181461
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 5:19 PM
I am staying here. Many like minded individuals are staying here too.
Yes the white flight to the former colonies and Europe is continuing apace, but the Labour government will not drive out those of us who love England. To be honest those who are leaving now will be of no use in the future anyway.
At this moment I would say that the future is bleak, but it isn’t hopeless. Gordon Brown is a poor PM, disliked by the majority and easy prey for the Tory party.
The other (Ian) Blair is on the ropes again and it will hopefully be happy days with his resignation (dragged and kicking out of office I don’t doubt.)
Labour is dead. Another two years and a recession will see them booted into the long grass.
But I stand by my statement. I’m staying here. Trevor Brookes is welcome to contest my right but I’ll not give way.
England fought brave German men, and I have never seen the same conviction in the Islamists. Grotesquely violent never earns respect. Loyalty to your home is a worthy cause.
I pity those who run to the Sun and leave their families to the war, cowards?
Posted by: The Other Mert at November 7, 2007 5:19 PM
Here is the islamic forum for IslamiQA.
Posted by: ethoman at November 7, 2007 5:26 PM
ethoman,
Not suprised. The USA carry many major servers so I am not suprised at all.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 7, 2007 5:27 PM
I sent this video to JW 2 days ago. Plus, linked it on 2 articles.
Right, they plan on killing Alan Craig. Gee, that sure is out-of-character behavior for Mohammedans, isn't it?
Posted by: darcy at November 7, 2007 6:05 PM
maybe alan craig used the terms "nig, paki, jew boy and puff"?
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at November 7, 2007 7:45 PM
have you seen the guys other videos? he celebrates the massacre at virginia tech.
hey "The Other Mert" instead of slagging off people that dont want to live in the UK anymore why not go on over to stevenage and put your money where your mouth is?
remember it was the "white flight english" who fled to the american colony's (in the 1600's) who's later generation came back and saved blighty's ass during WW2? explain that one! "of no use"? what a dolt.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at November 7, 2007 8:05 PM
This is a murder threat against an individual, but YouTube only identifies threats or "hate speech" against protected groups. So the individual has no status in YouTube - just as in the nirvana of communism.
Posted by: Brett_McS at November 7, 2007 8:22 PM
So uploading a death threat video against the youtube founders would be okay?
Interesting...
Posted by: profitsbeard at November 7, 2007 9:48 PM
When did the last mega-church go up in any Muslim nation?
Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at November 7, 2007 10:07 PM
When did the last mega-church go up in any Muslim nation?
Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at November 7, 2007 10:07 PM
I am still waiting for an answer to this pertinent question from any Islamic visitors here to this site.
Waiting...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting....
Posted by: awake at November 7, 2007 10:44 PM
Ynkedoodl2,
Believe it or not, but I've found ask.com to be a far better search engine than any of the others, especially when researching something or someone. Being pissed off with boiling blood has actually worked to stop the immigration bills from getting passed in Congress, so maybe in time it will also work on the Jihadi/Muslim issue. Everyone I know is ticked, but nobody does anything to stop it. We all need to take a stand against them and stand up for our rights that are being trampled on.
Bonnie
Posted by: Bonniea at November 7, 2007 11:02 PM
Man, such insecure people worried they'll be shown to be the frauds they are...so much so they've become a laughinstock if they weren't so delusionally violent...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
at November 8, 2007 2:46 AM
Website for Councillor Alan Craig
http://www.cpanewham.org/indexpage.html
Show him some support!
Posted by: pvb at November 8, 2007 8:27 AM
In London, the muslims are still spending thousands of pounds on their promotion of "Islam is Peace" campaign.
at November 8, 2007 8:42 AM
Look!
See!
Study!
Remember!
(and pass it on)
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2
Exactly, Ynkedoodl12! This video is probably the best these Mohammedan cowards can do, but the effect is chilling, beyond a doubt. Subtle as a roach in a glass of milk.
As profitsbeard says: "Spread the dread"!
Posted by: Abscedere at November 8, 2007 10:28 AM
The email address of the creature behind this video is muhammadabdullah1425@hotmail.com.
I have had him on my MSN list for a while and have even had an online chat with.
I think he would like to have many new friends.
Posted by: Sanwin at November 8, 2007 1:55 PM
Too bad we can't send him something special...like a pineapple surprise.
http://rat-hunter.com/stories/2006/grenade-launcher/grenade-launcher.jpg
at November 9, 2007 5:45 AM
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