"The bodies were moved to a mosque and then taken to a police station, the official said."

A fitting place for them.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at November 18, 2007 7:52 AM

Muslims know what their children are taught. No suprise in finding Children along with everyone else.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at November 18, 2007 7:54 AM

As Robert says, "Barbarism."

What more can we say?

Posted by: Jen at November 18, 2007 8:42 AM

Where's the outrage from within the muslim world???

Posted by: Razdan at November 18, 2007 10:49 AM

He said they were found in several locations in and around houses.

How do "several locations in and around houses" add up to a mass grave?

They could just as easily have been killed by family members. They could have been killed at different times for different reasons over this four-year period. This story suggests they weren't buried in compliance with Islamic law.

Posted by: PMK at November 18, 2007 10:59 AM

In this so-called 'War on Islam' in Iraq does anyone have any idea of how many Muslim-on-Muslim killings have taken place? My own guess is that the vast majority of the victims the insurgents strike down are not in fact infidels but Muslims. Muslims the victims and Muslims the perpetrators - what kind of loony War on Islam is that?

Posted by: ColinUK at November 18, 2007 4:23 PM

More "peace" dispensed by the alleged religion of peace. These poor people have peace alright-they have been freed from the grip of madness by the followers of madness.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 18, 2007 4:32 PM

...probably waiting for holiday presents from the infidel army, too...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071118/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018838.php#comments

Posted by: jcom972 at November 18, 2007 7:21 PM

Well here's a mass grave they can't blame on Saddam's secularists! The US hanged Saddam for such "crimes" but at least he was killing Islamists... confirming my belief that Saddam Hussein was one of the very few Arab leaders worthy of respect.

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 19, 2007 12:23 AM

The iraqis hanged him, not the US...
and though he also killed islamists, he & his equally (if not more so) psychopathic kids (far and away in excess of rank-&-file islamists) also murdered a lot of folks who were simply available as targets of opportunity, whether they did anything or not.

Posted by: jcom972 at November 19, 2007 7:47 AM

jcom972,

It was Iraqis put in control directly by the US and acting on their behalf. Saddam was kept in a US controlled prison and guarded by American and British guards right up to the time he was taken to the gallows.

Yes, Saddam Hussein was a violent thug... but a country like Iraq can only be controlled by unrestrained violence. As a confirmed Ba'ath secularist Saddam did not believe in Islam, he believed only in himself. The only other Muslims he trusted were his own close relatives and a few of his fellow Tikriti tribesmen. Because he could not trust other Muslims he filled many of the key posts in the Iraqi government with Christians.

Since the fall of Saddam, the Christian, Mandean, Yezidi, and other non-Muslim populations have faced absolute genocide. More Iraqi Christians now live in refugee camps in Syria and Jordan than in Iraq itself. Yet the US, the UK, and the UN do nothing to help these refugees.

So yes, Saddam was evil. I don't deny this. But for most Iraqi non-Muslims, what has replaced him is far worse.

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 19, 2007 1:26 PM

WE did NOT have anything to do with his trial, save that of holding him in a US controlled prison and providing evidence for the prosecution who requested it from us.
I know two of the military personnel who were/are there...they said the same thing, and they were high enough in rank to earn credibility as to their comments.
WE didn't hang him. The Iraqis did.

Posted by: jcom972 at November 19, 2007 5:46 PM

jcom972,

Do you really believe the Iraqis would have executed him without the express consent of the US occupation authorities? I watched the video of his hanging and the executioners were all shouting "Allahu Akhbar" like the Muslim fanatics they were.

These are the people we have empowered while allowing them to exclude all non-Muslims from the new government. Just read the US imposed Iraqi constitution that requires that all law be based on Islam. Between living under this or under Saddam's arbitrary secular dictatorship, I'd take the latter any time.

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 19, 2007 7:53 PM

I don't think it...I KNOW it.
I know some of the people that were there...
if WE would've had him hanged, WE would have handled it all...WE did NOT.
(If WE would've had it done, WE wouldn't have done it there, and WE would've made sure it was on much higher quality video than a camphone-ok, just jesting about the camphone bit, but you get the idea)
Yes, WE COULD have...perhaps even WE SHOULD have,
and the UN couldn't say a damned thing, but the fact remains we did NOT, especially since the Useless Numbnuts, Inc (UN) snivelled about wanting to try him under UN auspices, forget the fact they not only didn't do a damned thing to help us, but helped violate the oil-for-food program so badly it was virtually a waste of time, especially France & Germany at the time.

You said in no uncertain terms...
WE (the US) hanged him...when fact is WE did NOT.
The iraqis actually insisted, to the point of being adamant about it (many of them wanted him dead more than we did...for their own agendas, yes, but they lived under him-we didn't)

All else in the thread I either do not take issue with or don't concern myself with...my concern is accuracy, especially with stuff like this.

WE...did...NOT...hang...him.
Period.
How do I know?...and why am I adamant about it?
3 main reasons...
1) I WANTED US to hang him ourselves, because I know that during Desert Storm he MOST CERTAINLY DID use chem weapons against our troops-the czech monitoring team with their NBC/CBR sensors going off all over the place, as was ours, was a really big clue. (The czechs' were more accurate, too).
2) I lost some friends because of it.
3) I would've been a WITNESS for the prosecution, mainly over issues in Gulf I- my brother, for both of them as his unit was among those who found exactly what the militant leftist loons said wasn't there in Gulf II: WMDs
not just making the leftist lunatics the LYING leftist lunatics they are anyway (burden of proof was on saddam to prove he had NONE, not US), but a LOT of it-stuff WE did not sell him in the '80s when he was the lesser of the evils vs iran: mainly cyclosarin, but we know who did.

Somehow it was swept under the rug, and we were censored...and not by W.
So yes...WE did NOT hang him...
but I wished to hell we did.
(yes, there's a LOT more to it, but it wouldn't serve to contribuute to this forum).
The ones who told me in addition to my own position I trust implicitly, since we've all worked together before-and have the access the general public does not...and one of them is also my own brother, as well as his best friend (also in the sandbox now) who is also known by a well-known acronym: a J.A.G. officer.

Posted by: jcom972 at November 20, 2007 9:29 AM

I agree that if the US had actually carried out the execution it would have certainly much more honest than the spectacle we witnessed. I have no love for Saddam. It's just I despise the current regime even more because of its treatment of non-Muslims. I'm also sure that if the Bush administration would allow the US soldiers to protect the Christians, they'd gladly do so.

As for the UN, you are right on! I worked for the UN for two years (at UNESCO) and I can confirm that the UN is probably the most corrupt institution on earth. It is beyond useless, it is a threat to every form of real human rights and dignity.

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 20, 2007 1:51 PM

Provo,
Thanks for understanding I wasn't being combative...
just had previous exchanges with some real winners on that issue before (another forum entirely) but they had their own wacko agenda... ya know, the type that makes ya say "awww, shit, not again!"
Sorry if it came off that way.

You're right about the UN, too...also a hotbed of spy activity. I'll bet unesco was a real eye-opener, say no more-I'll take your word on that one.
What a waste of what coulda been a fine idea.

Posted by: jcom972 at November 20, 2007 2:19 PM