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November 19, 2007

"He's lucky. Because he killed one medic. The second medic saved his life."

The story of this youthful jihadist illustrates the difference between civilization and the barbarism he was fighting to impose upon the world. "Omar Khadr: The Youngest Terrorist?," from CBS (thanks to Jeffrey Imm):

Nov. 18, 2007(CBS) Omar Khadr seems an unlikely poster boy for the war on terror. Khadr is a Canadian citizen, he likes Harry Potter, and he was only 15 years old when he was captured by the U.S. Army in Afghanistan. And that's what makes his case so controversial: his age.

As correspondent Bob Simon reports, Omar Khadr is the only person in modern history to be charged for war crimes he allegedly committed while a minor.

60 Minutes got a rare glimpse into a Guantanamo case -- one of the first that will be prosecuted. Consider this: is Omar Khadr a hardened terrorist -- a bad seed, or an obedient son, led astray by his family?

The U.S. accuses Omar Khadr of murdering an American soldier, conspiracy, spying and more, all done, they say, when he was just 15 years old. Khadr has been detained in Guantanamo Bay for five years, much of it in a maximum security prison, in a cell with no windows, awaiting a military trial. His lawyers say that due to his age when he was taken prisoner, he should have been considered a child soldier and shouldn't be there at all.

As is, the U.S. calls him an unlawful enemy combatant, a euphemism for terrorist. 60 Minutes was not allowed to speak to Omar Khadr. But Dennis Edney, one of his lawyers, has visited him in Guantanamo several times.

"He's been in confinement for five years. Think of that. Think of locking a dog in a cage for five years. That's what’s happened to Omar Khadr," Edney tells Simon.

But Omar Khadr faces serious charges and, if convicted, could face up to life in prison. He was captured in eastern Afghanistan, a region notorious for harboring members of al Qaeda and the Taliban. In July 2002, U.S. Special Forces were patrolling the area when they got a tip that some al Qaeda members were holed up nearby.

Back then, Layne Morris was Sergeant Layne Morris. When his unit approached a walled compound, he says al Qaeda gunmen opened fire, killing Morris' interpreters.

"These guys just shot them point blank in the face," Morris says.

He says two interpreters were killed instantly. And then Sgt. Morris felt something hit his right eye.

"A piece of the hand grenade shrapnel cut the optic nerve," he says. "So I'm blind in one eye."

The fighting went on for hours. By the time it was over, the compound was completely destroyed by 500 pound bombs.

Morris didn't think anybody inside the compound could still be alive. "The assumption was that everybody's dead in there," he says.

But when soldiers went in, someone threw a hand grenade at them. One of the medics, Sergeant Christopher Speer, was killed. Then they found Omar Khadr, barely alive, lying in the rubble and blinded in one eye, just like Layne Morris.

"He's lucky," Morris says. "Because he killed one medic. The second medic saved his life."

Asked if the medic described the kid, Morris tells Simon, "All he said was, 'Man, we got up on that kid and he begged us to kill him.' He said 'Just kill me.'"

And he said it in perfect English.

Read it all.

Posted by Robert at November 19, 2007 8:36 AM
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If this kid gets let off the hook it's a slap in the face of those he killed.

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:01 AM

If life under Islam is so wonderful, why are they all begging to be killed? I mean, the more Muslim they are, the more they beg for death...

Just doing some thinking.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:02 AM

Again, they come here so they can hate us at close range.

Posted by: supercargo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:11 AM

Actually, I would've said if islam (and wherever they came from) is so wonderful (and implying that WE & our world is Sooooooooo BAD), then why are they HERE in the first place?

Other than outright infiltration/infestation, nothing else seems to make sense.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:12 AM

I worked in the children's unit in one of California's state hospitals for six years.
Dangerous children, of which there are many, were treated like dangerous adults. A 15 year old can kill you just as dead as a 25 year old. The only difference between some of those 'kids', and Omar, is that Omar is focused. He does not operate off delusional material. In other words, he is probably not psychotic, in the way we normally think of as psychotic. But his willingness to act, to kill or maim the enemy, is the same as with the other psychotics. He has 'fixed' delusions. He will always have them, and always act on them, whenever he can.
In other words, there will never be a time in the rest of his life, that he is not dangerous to someone. But, I am sure that he is a hero to some people, and Allah has just got to love this kid, but he is a danger to the rest of us. There is only three thing's to do. Kill him, keep him locked up for life and/or chemically restrain him with drugs so he can't act. He probably is, will be, a problem prisoner... In his case, age means nothing...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:14 AM

"He's been in confinement for five years. Think of that. Think of locking a dog in a cage for five years. That's what’s happened to Omar Khadr," Edney tells Simon.

But if he was a dog, he would have been euthanized by now.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:22 AM

Why didn't Omar blow HIMSELF up with his last grenade if he wanted to die so badly!

Posted by: eliXelx [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:22 AM

In this war, we should not take prisoners.

Posted by: Havoc [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:23 AM

Khadr Family Values

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2004/03/04/khadr_040304.html

Posted by: supercargo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:24 AM

Omar Khadr, the pitiful "child soldier" (retch) is one of the sons of "we are al Al Quaeda family" Khadrs.
It's hard to believe they can't be run out of this country.

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2007/10/jihadist-welfar.html (the comments below this are interesting)

Monday, October 29, 2007 Jihadist Welfare Queen
Mama Khadr is at it again – demanding her and her family’s “rights” as “Canadians.”

The quotation marks in the above paragraph are used advisedly. The fact that we allow this woman and her odious family to continue to masquerade as citizens of this country is living demonstration of just how gutless we truly are. That we haven’t yet run this Jihadist welfare queen and the rest of his disgusting family the hell out of this country tells me (and should tell you) pretty much everything one needs to know about why the Islamist advance against the West has yet to be checked or even effectively countered in most of the West.

For those who are late to the party, I’ll briefly review the history of the Khadr family. Papa Khadr was a senior member of al-Qaeda who took his family to Afghanistan where they hung out with Osama Bin Laden. During the 1990’s, he was arrested for his part in a terrorist attack in Afghanistan, but he was kindly sprung from jail through the intervention of Jean Chretien.

Mommy and Daddy al-Qaeda raised their children to be good little martyrs. The eldest daughter’s wedding was attended by Bin Laden – and she’s reportedly under investigation by the RCMP. Two of the sons – Abdul and Omar – ended in Guantanamo Bay after being captured while fighting on behalf of the terrorists. Abdul flipped and managed to get out of Gitmo by working for the CIA. Omar, who killed an American in combat, is about to be tried for murder. Another son is in jail in Canada, awaiting extradition to the United States.

Eventually, Daddy Khadr was killed while fighting alongside al-Qaeda forces. In the same battle Abdulkareem, the youngest son, was seriously wounded. It was at this point – with her son in need of extensive (and expensive!) medical care that Mommy Khadr discovered her secret affection for Tim Horton’s and the National Hockey League and began to first demand her and her children’s “rights” as “Canadians.”

So, to summarize: the elder Khadr came to Canada in the mid-1970’s and then returned to the Islamic world in the early 1980’s – thereafter returning to Canada only sporadically (most notably for a year of free health treatment when he was wounded by a land mine). Since then he – and his progeny – have devoted themselves to waging war against the West. But, somehow, we are supposed to simply accept that these people – citizens of convenience who have waged war against our nation and civilization – are legitimate “Canadians” and to grin and bear it while they, being natural parasites with no respect for our nation, suck tax dollars out of our system to pay for the surely expensive medical treatment for someone wounded while standing alongside our enemies.

Not only this – after all, this outrage has been allowed to pass practically unnoticed – but now we are supposed to have sympathy for (as the media and the left obviously does) an al-Qaeda solider who, while fighting as an unlawful combatant, treacherously wounded one Allied solider and killed another. Indeed, we are not only supposed to have sympathy – we are actually supposed to devote time and resources (read: my and your money) into freeing him from a fate which is far less than what he has earned. (Once again, I would emphasize the stupidity of, in dealing with terrorists, not simply following the traditional procedure established for dealing with pirates, bandits, spies, and other unlawful combatants captured in combat).

As I see it, if the Khadrs insist on being treated as Canadians, then they ought to bear the full consequences of their actions as Canadians. If they insist that they are Canadians and subject to Canadian law – that is to say, if they admit that they owe a duty of allegiance to Canada – then the whole lot ought to be brought up on charges of High Treason for levying war against Canada and assisting our nation’s enemies.

Regrettably, the highest punishment for such a crime would be life (no justly earned rope in sight) and the odds are that our candy-assed Supreme Court would throw out the charges and that then some future government would end up handing each of them a cheque for $10 Million or whatever – so this course is obviously less than ideal.

Failing a successful treason prosecution, the next-best alternative would be to strip the Khadrs of their citizenship and to deport them to wherever we can get to take them. I see no reason why this is impossible – after all, we still spend time stripping eighty-something ex-Nazi camp guards of their citizenship and shipping them off.

What kind of cowards are we? These people are no more Canadian than I’m Armenian. It may well be good that we are, as we are so often told, a kind and generous people. But in this case we are being obscenely abused by some crafty people who understand that we don’t have the courage to act against people who wage war against us, insult us, and defile our country – if they happen t be able to claim the status of fashionable victims.

It makes my blood boil to thing that Abdulkareem Khadr gets to go to high school in Canada and gets “free” medical care (well, I suppose we can forget the quotation marks in this individual case – I somehow doubt that these people have much earned income) to treat the injuries he sustained as a result of his family’s active participation in the cause of our enemies. Every time I think that even a cent of my money has been forcibly taken to go to this terrorist family I turn red with rage.

Rights? The only right that Omar Khadr deserves is that to a strong knot and a short drop.

Posted by: j_not_a [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:26 AM

"He's lucky," Morris says. "Because he killed one medic. The second medic saved his life."


And we are stupid.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 9:33 AM

"He's been in confinement for five years. Think of that. Think of locking a dog in a cage for five years. That's what’s happened to Omar Khadr," Edney tells Simon.

If he were a dog that had just attacked a group of people, killing at least one and maiming another, he would have been killed at once, even if he were not full grown.

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 10:12 AM

It's possible that Omar Khadr may get off on the defence that he was a child combatant, evilly indoctrinated and then forced to fight in war he didn't and couldn't understand. If and when that happens it would be expected that Canadian authorities then would charge those who forced Khadr into his child soldier role. And who would that be? Why, Mama Khadr of course. She has boasted that she'd rather see her sons fight for Bin Laden than associate with average Canadian teenagers whom she implies are corrupt and degenerate.

Did she have knowledge that her son, Omar Khadr,was being used as a child soldier? The evidence points that way. When can we expect her to be charged with child abuse?

Posted by: Jen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 10:17 AM

It's a national disgrace the way this family keeps crapping on Canada yet is allowed to stay here. I have no sympathy for this kid, he's a terrorist born and bred.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 10:34 AM

When I saw the name I wondered if he was one of the Canadian al qaeda.... j_not_a confirmed it.
WTH is the matter with the civilized world that we let these snakes live among us?

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 10:35 AM

political correctness...that's WTH's wrong.
It's killing us.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 10:50 AM

Age and gender should not matter. You carry a weapon, you are assumed to be ready to kill. Therefore, it is incumbent to either capture (and imprison) or kill such individuals. Anyone who carries a weapon should know the consequences of doing so and if they do not then it's too bad for them.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 10:50 AM

From the article:

"...he (Omar) had been indoctrinated since earliest childhood to be a good soldier for Allah and an obedient son..."

""For him (the father), when he says 'We,' he doesn’t mean we, our family, he means we, Islam.""

""It was Islam taking revenge against the United States?" Simon asks.

"Yes. And that's what he (the father) believed.""

"[Abdurrahman] acknowledges that they were brought up to fight for Islam.

"Not a terrorist, he (the father) said, but he fervently believed that Afghanistan should be a Muslim state and that the United States was THE ENEMY OF ISLAM. "It looks like after we have removed the Russian Empire, we’ll have to end up removing also the American Empire," Ahmed Khadr told Crile.

The children were reared, for the most part, in the Middle East, by Muslim fundamentalist parents.

The family's beliefs differ from Western thinking, because the parents were true believers living, with the children, in a land of true believers.

Yes, the kid needs to be tried--and punished if convicted--for his actions.

But given his upbringing, I'm not surprised by his actions, or by those of others from similar family backgrounds. What can they do? Rebel against the immediate family and the extended family and the tribe and the government and the worldwide Ummah? Not likely.

The real outrage is the duplicity of fighting against Western infidels while claiming, and receiving, the rights and the benefits of those same Western infidels.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 11:24 AM

Whoever captured him is obviously a kinder man that I am. If that kid had killed one of my buddies, he would not have lived to see Gitmo.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 11:30 AM

Can see the 60 Minutes video by clicking on my SN

Posted by: Bill A [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 11:47 AM

If life under Islam is so wonderful, why are they all begging to be killed? I mean, the more Muslim they are, the more they beg for death...

Just doing some thinking.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2

LOL! They can't wait for the 72 virgins because they're so deprived of women and female companionship. Ha ha ha

Posted by: Bonniea [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:07 PM

islam is a great 'religion' for psychopaths. They won't hunt you down and put you in jail - in fact they treat you as a hero and will honor you as a martyr if you die.

I don't think it is that 'why if islam is so great why do they seek death' type of thing. It is because they are brainwashed into believing that they are #1. supposed to kill kufirs, #2. become a jihadist - and the best of all of the types of jihad is the violent kind that kills kufirs. , #3. they are looking forward to their heavenly reward, and #4. they just don't look at killing non-muslims, and sometimes even other muslims, as so bad. Just as long as they don't 'shirk'. (look in blogging the koran - the surah 6 chapters).

This 'religion' is for the birds. It is mind numbing.

And as I stated in a different thread - Lodi California's public schools are now touched by the wahabbis/saudi freaking arabians. They have a history book teaching islam and the parents are outraged. Do some searches for 'lodi islam history'. I find this utterly disgusting. Where is the ACLU?!

Posted by: R_not [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:09 PM

More of Islams dizzying duplicity.
Girls are old enough to become wives and mothers at 9 years but men are not responsible for what they do at any age.

Posted by: Aunt Bea [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:10 PM

A little charity please.

He begged for death.

At least he should be granted as much ?

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:22 PM

I would have shot the little son of a bitch. He's a terrorist. He knew what he was doing, and he was a dedicated enemy combatant. We are way too nice.

Posted by: SFCMAC [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:24 PM

Asked if the medic described the kid, Morris tells Simon, "All he said was, 'Man, we got up on that kid and he begged us to kill him.' He said 'Just kill me.'"

Why are we too politically correct to kill our enemies? We should have granted him his wish. As little as 30 years ago, we would have. How do we expect to win a war when we are too soft to kill our enemy? Could we have defeated Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan with this approach? No way. We would be watching the daily parades of the Waffen SS to this day. The reason the Aztecs were conquered by the Spaniards almost 500 years ago is because they went to war to capture enemies for ritual sacrifice, whereas the Spaniards fought to wipe the enemy out on the battlefield. On this score, we are certainly one down on the Aztecs. And this is the corrosive effect of the PC liberals. And it really says everything about us when there are 17,000 lawyers working in the Department of Defense.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:35 PM

You let animals like Kadr perish in the field anything else is being foolish and risking the lives of others.

Oh he's also a poster child for Camp X-ray. We cannot allow animals like him and others to be put in general population of any Federal Penitentiary.

As far as that evil brood in Canada goes - give them a one way ticket to whatever Islamic hellhole they came from.

Posted by: waltc [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 12:50 PM

I would have shot the little son of a bitch. He's a terrorist. He knew what he was doing, and he was a dedicated enemy combatant. We are way too nice.
Posted by: SFCMAC at November 19, 2007 12:24 PM

Amen to that...
brother in the sandbox had a philosophy (and it's standing order with him) & his subordinates agree...
-shooting a soldier makes them a terrorist,
(since they're not legit soldiers at all)
-but shooting a medic makes them less than human...
...so if that happened in his ZOC, they'd stand there, smoke a cig or two, and watch the little scumbag bleed to death in writhing agony...
and the hypocrites screeding about the Geneva Convention (but only when it suits their agenda) who don't admit it's a two-way street, can't say a damned thing about it, either.
(GC does NOT require us to render aid to spies, saboteurs, or terrorists-only legit soldiers of recognized countries, which they are NOT-it does, however allow us to shoot them in the field on the spot)

Thanks to political correctness overriding its age-old absolute opposite, common sense, they let the little murderer live.
(He retires next September, says enough of the PC pahblum puking politicians not allowing military to do what they're designed for...and I don't blame him as I did the same thing a few years ago).

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:00 PM

If you want to know why the West is in trouble against these savages, read the pages and postings on THIS thread:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278153

And read the postings and look at the poll on THIS thread:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275802

Says everything, really. We in the West are kowtowing to them, even worse, hero-worshipping them whilst vilifying our own, and clearing the path to our own destruction.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:08 PM

Wasn't there a massive fuss a couple of years ago when a camera crew accompanied some US soldiers in Iraq. One of the incidents was of a US soldier, just after a firefight, putting a couple of bullets into a Jihadist lying on the ground.

The Left went wild, screeching that he should have checked if the Jihadist was still alive and given him medical treatment etc.

The reason the soldier did it, was they were fed up of the Jihadists acting dead and then managing to kill a soldier who tried to check on their welfare.

If they wanted to surrender, they could put their hands where they can be seen and make a noise to that effect. Then, maybe, they could have medical attention.

Posted by: Celsius [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:08 PM

Here's a good article on the issue that, although more general in nature, nails it nonetheless...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=CBCF2FE7-1043-413E-911B-E5907FE56A3C

Purge PC and you purge the enemy within.
THEN the rest comes much easier.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:08 PM

If you want to know why the West is in trouble against these savages, read the pages and postings on THIS thread:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278153

And read the postings and look at the poll on THIS thread:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275802

Says everything, really. We in the West are kowtowing to them, even worse, hero-worshipping them whilst vilifying our own, and clearing the path to our own destruction.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:10 PM

Spirit Of 1683, ref your link. Very depressing and not too difficult to find many more examples.

I think part of the problem is that, people like to condemn Israel and not the problems islam causes, because it shows how nice and tolerant they are (not to mention politically savvy). Couple that with the fact that their opinions and ours will matter not one jot in the short term, and there are no reprecussions for their beliefs.

I would love to see some of the cretins I know like this get screwed over by Muslims. If that did ever happen, I would side with the Muslims and accuse them of being racist, islamophobic etc if they dared complain.

Posted by: Celsius [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:21 PM

"He's been in confinement for five years. Think of that. Think of locking a dog in a cage for five years. That's what’s happened to Omar Khadr," Edney tells Simon.

Locked up like a dog, well . . .

Celsius, there is a Miitary Channel feature, I think it is called "Hell in the Pacific" where a now elderly veteran of Okinawa told the story of Japanese soldiers who would feign surrender then raise their hands and let two grenades drop from their armpits and thus kill or seriously injure a US soldier. The veteran stated flatly that after one of those incidents, they never took another prisoner.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:44 PM

From the article:

As is, the U.S. calls him an unlawful enemy combatant, a euphemism for terrorist.

Bzzzt. Wrong.

"Unlawful enemy combatant" is a specific legal term that clearly defines their legal status, and has unambiguous implications for how they will be treated under our laws.

"Terrorist" is a vague undefined weasel word used by politicians and the media to avoid accurately describing who these people are.

"Jihadist" or "mujahaddin" is the term that describes the common ideology that motivates this group of people. It is the term that they use to describe themselves. It is the more meaningful and accurate term.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:48 PM

"He's been in confinement for five years. Think of that. Think of locking a dog in a cage for five years. That's what’s happened to Omar Khadr," Edney tells Simon.

Well those he killed have been dead in a box for five years.

And their families have been suffering for five years due to said loss by this little Islamic Fascist and will suffer a lifetime of grief.

Posted by: FLLegal [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:56 PM

The soldier who found this dying piece of *%$# was a medic, and so probably didn't have a gun to shoot him. Even if he had, he would have committed a warcrime, and been prosecuted.

But since he's a medic, he would have been justified in leaving the slightly injured jihadist and continuing his search for more badly hurt victims, which may have taken hours before he could make his way back. Or, if he didn't notice the jihadist, it would have been understandable that he didn't treat him, until it was tragically too late.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 1:59 PM

When you come across a rabid dog in the street it does not matter how old the dog is, you kill it. It will never be cured, you can't befriend it, be nice to it, you must for your safety and those around you eliminate it. Omar Khadr is unfortunately (thanks to islamic brain washing) a human equivalent of a rabid dog. No matter how nice a picture his lawyer tries to paint of him, Omar Khadr if given the chance will slit his lawyers throat in a heart beat and his stupid lawyer will look at Omar Khadr and ask why.

Posted by: WLF [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 2:11 PM

How sad and ironic that in both World Wars, the US had no qualms about killing people (the Japanese being the exception) that could have shared a church service or a conversation or a discussion of classical history... and now this equivication of savages with our professional military. I wonder who pays for Omar's attorney's flights to Gitmo or is this expense born by the DoD? If I killed an active duty soldier in a non-combat environment, do you think I would get the same consideration, regardless of age? What the h*** happened to the country that defeated Nazi Germamy and a Tojo Japan?

Posted by: HOV Dummy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 2:13 PM

What DOES age have to do with it? He was the only one left alive and he threw the grenade and killed an American. He murdered an American soldier. He is the enemy folks, anyway you look at it.

Perhaps his lawyer will have more clarity on the subject once he removes his head from his ass. Come to think of it, that won't even allow him to see the truth, since he's obviously being paid handsomely (maybe even by Bin Laden himself) and is no doubt daydreaming about the gazebo or yacht or perhaps island he will buy with the money.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 2:20 PM

HOV Dummy,
political correctness happened, that's happened.
The enemy within practices it avidly, faithfully-it is their religion...
...the rest are just too spineless to confront it because the PC gestapo has a LOT of backing, mainly elected infestations...oops, I mean officials, wackodemia, and the MSM.

Purge PC and ya purge the #1 problem.
The rest comes easier.
The solution isn't easy, but it IS simple.
And It IS that simple.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 2:38 PM

The brainwashing can begin at any age. In Iraq, the American soldiers eager to hand out soccer balls (and even to request, when they need more of them, that they be sent more from friends at home) and candy to local children, because the "children are still okay" may not realize what they have observed, what that observation means. It means that the young boys in Iraq have not yet been sufficiently brainwashed to regard them as the enemy, though there are cases where they have been willing to remain silent while ambushes of those candy-and-soccer-ball-distribuing American soldiers have been set up, and then carried out.

It is not these children are for some mysterious reason reachable. No. It is juset that they have not yet had Islam hammered into them. The brainwashing is not nearly complete.

When that is understood by the soldiers, and then by the American government, perhaps goals that are both attainable, and that make sense, will replace the current, still confusedly wrong-headed ones.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 3:29 PM

family has admitted they support Al Qaeda will send them back to Pakistan without Canadian citizenship and let them see how they like living under Islamic law

Posted by: mowasaperv [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 4:23 PM

Pelayo - I recently watched a program about the campaign to recapture Attu, in the Aleutian Islands, from the Japanese who had taken it in 1942, and who held it for almost a full year. After a hard fought campaign of almost three weeks, the U.S. Army was on the verge of victory. In a final offensive, the Japanese launched a banzai charge with between 500 and 1,000 troops. Their attack successfully penetrated into a rear area, and the Japanese overran a field hospital where they bayoneted American wounded and burned some of the tents.
One of the two elderly heros who had made the pilgrimage back to Attu stated that an hour or so later, a dozen or so Japanese were ready to surrender. A U.S. officer gave orders to take them prisoner, when suddenly a GI several feet away opened up with a tommygun, killing them all. He then turned to the officer, and said, "Sorry, Sir, what did you just say?"

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 4:49 PM

"He's been in confinement for five years. Think of that. Think of locking a dog in a cage for five years. That's what’s happened to Omar Khadr," Edney tells Simon.

FLLegal,

We had some soldiers do as you suggested (shoot those who had fired at them in an ambush) and they were charged with war crimes.

What are the lawyers doing?

One reason not to shoot the little bastard: you deny him a free trip to heaven. That must be why he didn't blow himself up with the grenade. He figured he'd draw enemy fire and be killed in the process, scoring a two for one. He'd die as a martyr and take an infidel (or two) with him. Now he has to endure life in a cage, going several decades without the chance even to fire at another infidel. Tough noogies.

If a fifteen year old can't be treated as a prisoner or face justice for his actions (even though his religion would consider his actions heroic), then maybe the entire regime in every Islamic country should be taken out. They're the ones sending "the children" out to wage war.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 5:23 PM

Those bogus "war crimes" charges were dismissed, too.
Too much fallout from supporters ready to hang the PC infiltrator...ooops, I mean "prosecutor".
The same will occur for the haditha hoax, too.
Most of them have already been dropped...

...but we have a long way to go, and it won't stop until we purge PC and put common sense back in its place where it belongs.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 5:53 PM


Interesting moral stance that Muslims want to take by accepting him as a CHILD and can't be responsible enough to understand what he did or be accountable since his Daddy-Khadr should have known better than to exploit a child for Allah.

But wait.......Muhammad was in his 50's when he
took Aisha as Chattle and she was much younger than Omar and she had sex forced on her for Allah's cause to prove Muhammad was Blessed for his works and given a Virgin on Earth.


So which one is it Ibrahim Hooper???

Is Omar a CHILD ,or is Muhammad a Pedophile ?


Pick one, becaus they can't both be valid Moral stances unless you Pervert the Quran by Misunderstanding the Context.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2007 5:54 PM

I think, when the rest of the world wakes up to this threat it is going to be too late for the western world. No prisoners should be taken, send them to paradise with a smile on your face.

This might seem harsh you might ask yourself, just think about your families,grandkids, what future will they have if we loose this fight for survival and make no mistake about it, the islamic flith will have great pleasure in subduing and killing our future generations.

Posted by: bill.p [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 5:08 AM

Given Canada's disproportionate sacrifices in the fighting in Afghanistan, I'm surprised that Mama Khadr can even dare show her veiled form in public. The Khadrs deserve a daily offering of dead rats and pig's offal on their stoop every morning.

Posted by: Kepha [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 7:17 AM

He may be a Minor in Canada but he was considered a Man in Afcrapistan where he commited his Crime.

Only Multi-Culturalism could completely twist reality arround 540 degrees to find sympathy for the Enemy.

They should consider themselfs lucky the Killer got to the age of 15 befor he actually acted. In Afcrapistan, Troops deal with them as young as 5+6. Reality is cruel.

By the way, just how was it that this poor missunderstood Muslim Boy found his way to Afcrapistan in the first place??? Most kids his age are Map challanged. But still, This poor hapless misguided Canadian Child hopped a Plane for summer vacation, on his own mind you. Needing to make how many layovers, flight delayes, lost baggage on his little journey half way arround the World? To a Country almost completely cut off from the World as a whole, and a War broke out upon his arrival? Well. a more comprensive War that is.
An under age Foreign National, under questionable Adult Guidence, if any. Finds the means to Arm himself, and side up the the very people his own Goverment is trying to rescue him from.

My Head wants to IED.

I give credit to the Medic for making such a clear distinction between them and us. Hopefully, the Medic told his buddies not to give him any more work like that in the future.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 22, 2007 9:04 AM

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