Classic Rock and Roll. Beautiful woman. Handsome guy. Kissing. Ahhh. Life is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBGQ1AyQh2A

Posted by: Whistling Dixie at November 22, 2007 8:48 AM

You want some Gershwin with that pumpkin pie?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WodGQZqefro

Posted by: Whistling Dixie at November 22, 2007 8:55 AM

Bless you Hugh (now squirm).

A fine tube song production.

It's great to be winning, which is also a win for Jihadwatch.

(is it the coalition of the winning ?)

Posted by: dgene at November 22, 2007 9:40 AM

While the offerings above are good, they present a problem. For many, no doubt, will be prompted to put up their own favorites, a poem or a song or a snippet of a movie (if retrievable on-line). The Interlude then would cease to be, as it was intended to be, a place to remind the audience of performers who have been forgotten or remain unknown or, if not entirely forgotten or unknown, then insufficiently appreciated because they were from another time, another space.

A thread full of links to music that is already well-known, and likely to consist mostly of American or rock-band English, from the last few decades, would defeat part of the incompletely-stated purpose. And too many pieces being offered, on the Interlude thread, even when individually good, can weaken the impact of what has been chosen for that day.

However, those with a particular pressing request for an old favorite should send it in and if it meets the criteria of our stern panel of circuit-riding and incorruptible judges, it may see the light of pixillated day.

A new link will ideally be offered each day, placed at the top of an ever-lengthening cumulative list, and at some point -- possibly at the beginning of each month -- a new list will begin, the previous one having been removed to the archives, where it will remain, retrievable, and free from rust and the other ravages of time.

The aim, of course, is not only to remind visitors of things that have nothing to do with Islam, and that could never have been produced under Islam. It is also to engage in the refashioning of taste. If there is to be a revolution in taste, why not let it begin here?

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 10:21 AM

refreshing...

Happy Thanksgiving all.

Posted by: jindle86 at November 22, 2007 10:50 AM

I really like it. Great idea.

Another reason to be thankful... and thank you too, Hugh.

Posted by: Goob at November 22, 2007 11:16 AM

Hugh do you like Artie Shaw?

Posted by: aengus at November 22, 2007 11:17 AM

Looks like we have been invited to contribute a posting on our tastes in music.
Well here goes.

Question: what do Robert Spencer and I have in common?
Answer: we are both huge Bob Dylan fans!

I have seen him in concert about 6 times.

Try this, as popular as Wafa Sultan!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0gSJGJ7Fs

or

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6i6NOfD48Gk

Most pop music I find too simple. Dylan, of course, combines simple music with the talents of a great poet. For a period Dylan became the soundtrack to my life, it was all I listened to.
But then I had to move on.

What to listen to? Most pop music I found too simple and a Beethoven piano sonata was only enjoyable if I listened to it while driving in a car.
I generally don’t like labels but could there not be a type of music that was situated somewhere between the popular and the classical?
Indeed there was.

Try this by the one and only Genesis

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ2Gpu1Z8Ug

Or this by Yes, probably their finest piece, “awakenings.”

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=89b0-CAdzKg

Or try Mike Oldfield, forget Tubular bells, it is not his best.

Actually all this just seemed to be a passing phase. Nowdays I would estimate the greatest composers ever to be Beethoven, Bach and Mozart.

Try this

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O6txOvK-mAk

Or this

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LU_QR_FTt3E

And this. Enough to melt a heart of stone.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QrEwmqhXT1s

Posted by: Odyessus at November 22, 2007 11:25 AM

"do you like Artie Shaw"

Yes, especially when Helen Forrest is singing.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 11:26 AM

Hugh, I enjoyed it, I have heard it before, it reminds me of what we have lost and are in the process of losing.

In the spirit of "and that could never have been produced under Islam" Kate Bush, the Sensual World.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AJc64xncBt4

Posted by: Daffersd at November 22, 2007 11:27 AM

Go to Google (yes, there, of the egregious politics and censorship of Robt. Spencer himself) and type in lucinda williams you tube world without tears and listen to the world's most beautiful voice coming out of the beautiful face of a beautiful woman. Feminine, the daughter of a famous poet, a poet herself, a great songwriter and lyricist, and best of all a southern girl.

A fine reason to give thanks to the sky above.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 22, 2007 11:28 AM

http://www.joslyn.org/Collection/Search-Detail.aspx?ID=f5da12a3-1849-40d1-b550-b790bc00e030

My something completely different is the painting The Return Of Spring by William Bouguereau. Created by one of the finest French Academy painters, and is in every way (whispers...un Islamic).

Infact, Bouguereau's works are so beautiful, here is a link to some of his other works for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/artist.php?artist=19

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at November 22, 2007 11:45 AM

So long as I'm blabbing about beauty and giving thanks, here's a poem from a hero of the Viet Nam war, a war that the Marxists claimed was waged by Imperialist America to steal Viet Nam's rich tin reserves (you read that right, tin), a war that stopped the sustained push by the Communist Russia and China in their world takeover push.

Now we're dealing with another, much older, world takeover ideology. But there's always room for poets and heroes.

610 * 623 * 632 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001

REMEMBRANCE

If you are able,
save them a place inside of you
and save one backward glance
when you are leaving
for the places they can no longer go.

Be not ashamed to say you loved them,
though you may or may not have always.

Take what they have left,
and what they have taught you with their dying
and keep it with your own.

And in that time when men decide
and feel safe to call the war insane,
take one moment to embrace those gentle heroes
you left behind.

— authored by Major Michael Davis O’Donnell, U.S. Army Pilot, 1st Aviation Brigade, 170th Assault Helicopter Company ("Bikinis")
KIA in Laos in March 1970, when he flew his helicopter into heavy fire in an attempt to extract a long-range reconnaissance patrol (LRRP). An ARVN company was closing in on the LRRP patrol when his helicopter made a final extraction attempt at LZ when the helicopter was destroyed in mid-flight and its occupants (crew and LRRP soldiers) killed.

O’Donnell was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Air Medal, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart, as well as a posthumous promotion to the rank of Major following his loss incident.

He wrote this poem just weaks before being killed in action to defend our freedom; freedom we are now handing over to the Moslems voluntarily.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 22, 2007 11:50 AM

George Shearing is playing in my kitchen while the pumpkins pies are baking. (FYI - when the store runs out of sweetened condensed milk, use eggnog)Aaaaaah...........Interlude. I'm soaking in it now.

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at November 22, 2007 11:55 AM

Someone from your era Hugh...Paul Robeson, especially his rendition of 'old man river'...
I liked his movies a lot, they used to be on tv in the middle of the night...but I am sure you remember that...

Posted by: duh_swami at November 22, 2007 12:08 PM

Here's one I was going to suggest: I don't know the title, but some of the lines went:
"Close the doors, they're coming in the windows,
Close the doors, they're running up the stairs,
Close the doors, they're hanging on the ceiling,
Those blankety-blankety-blanks are everywhere."
But I guess that's ruled out, since it sounds too much like ban . . . immigration now.

Posted by: ebonystone at November 22, 2007 12:13 PM

"Looks like we have been invited to contribute a posting on our tastes in music.
Well here goes."
-- from a posting above

No, not exactly. Please read carefully what I posted at 10:21 a.m., just after having deleted Pelayo's posting of three lee-fortunes, which was no more, though no less, a violation of the stated rule than all those that have been posted after. That deletion was done by way of demonstration. Why, Pelayo is now fuming, should his posting be the only one so deleted? Why indeed?

I don't wish to be a mean-minded ogre, dampening innocent enthusiasms. But I do wish the Interlude to reflect a single taste -- my taste -- and not to become a kind of open-mike or karaoke festival and free-for-all, where everyone puts up whatever he feels like singing along to, or wishes to inflict on others in the spirit of those delinquents who turn up the sound on their boomboxes or their car radios to make absolutely sure the entire neighborhood has to hear those hideous sentiments set to semi-demented "music."

Besides, how can I affect this revolution in taste if I am not to be sole arbiter elegantiarum?

So please. Indulge a despot. Just this once?

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 12:14 PM

"Thank Heaven for Little Girls"

by Learner and Lowe for the film "Gigi"

Each time I see a little girl
of 5 or 6 or 7
I can't resist a joyous urge to smile and say,
thank heaven for little girls
For little girls, get bigger, every day
thank heaven for little girls
they grow up in the most delightful way
those little eyes so helpless and the appealing
one day we will flash and send you crashing through the ceiling
thank heaven for little girls
thank heaven for them all
no matter where, no matter who
without them, what would little boys do
thank heaven, thank heaven, thank heaven for little girls

Never mind: Maybe it's not such a good choice, now that I look the lyrics over, as something antithetical to Sharia.

Happy Thanksgiving, all.

HAID

Posted by: Haid Dasalami at November 22, 2007 12:23 PM

Here is another submission for your consideration and amusement: http://www.chat.carleton.ca/~tcstewar/grooks/grooks.html

Written by a Dane during WWII.
Pithy little poems of great wit.

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at November 22, 2007 12:26 PM

Haid, thanks for the memory tickle; now I'm off to fish through old VCR tapes for my copy of Gigi. What a wonderful movie!

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at November 22, 2007 12:28 PM

Any time, Shakey.

Regards,

HAID

Posted by: Haid Dasalami at November 22, 2007 12:34 PM

"Written by a Dane during WWII.
Pithy little poems of great wit."

Not just "a Dane." But a unique Dane. To wit: "Piet Hein." I like Piet Hein's Grooks and his compressed wit and suspect I would like them even more if I had been born, say, in Odense, or possibly in a windy castle overlooking the sea at Elsinore. Martin Gardner introduced Piet Hein and the Grooks to a mass American audience through his column in "Scientific American," just the way he did so many other things, famous puzzle-masters, and that little book by Newman and Godel.

Last year,at a used-book sale, I found a signed copy of one in the series of small-format Grook-books, the signature being that not of "Piet Hein" but rather of the Dane behind that feathery pseudonym, a book presented to a now-dead, celebrated American physicist abd refugee from the Nazis -- and I promptly snapped it up. "Piet Hein" was a curious nom de plume to choose, for it is the name of a celebrated Dutch, not Danish, admiral.

Sometimes there is nothing like a Dane.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 12:47 PM

George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to "recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at November 22, 2007 12:51 PM

Hugh:

Try this one, by a bonnie English lass singing in Norwegian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x31HlSn3qSY

Nice guitar work, too.

Posted by: Papa Whiskey at November 22, 2007 1:02 PM

Thanks Hugh for this wonderful idea. :)

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 22, 2007 1:16 PM

Hey anime fans and baby boomers:

While we are way off the topic of jihad, remember Astro Boy? Here is the original Japanese intro from the early 1960’s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4HVYZhohGw&feature=related

Here the color intro from the1980’s in English:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zspGKUk9mE0&feature=related

And here is the new intro from 2002(?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV7UtEKKkBw&feature=related

And here is “Zone,” the the all girl Japanese rock band that composed the new theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azQYn9i3K48&feature=related

Sad to day, zone broke up in 2005.

Last but not least, here are some video clips of Astro Boy beautifully juxtaposed with the song “Hero” by Maria Carey. Some of you might think it is a bit corny. But in today’s anxious times I feel no guilt saying this almost made me cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZlO6ux8h4&feature=related

Posted by: Pavlov's dog at November 22, 2007 1:20 PM

I'm probably the only person on earth who likes this guy.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ_O7Od74Ec&feature=related

(And obviously I don't know enough html to make a link of this. LoL)

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!

Posted by: Abscedere at November 22, 2007 1:25 PM

Son of a gun--the link worked!

Posted by: Abscedere at November 22, 2007 1:27 PM

I see that harsher methods may have to be employed. But I won't get on the phone to Kim Il Sung just yet.

One more time: if you have a suggestion for a song, a poem, a scene from a movie, and the choice meets the stated criteria, email it. If it is not already on the Master List of several hundred items, you will be given credit for the suggestion.

Otherwise, I will with reluctance have to block all suggestions and links that, in careless or deliberate disregard of the stated purpose of the Interlude, have been or will be posted here. That is not a task for which I can muster much relish.

Oh. Sorry. Wrong national holiday.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 1:37 PM

The previous reference to a Gershwin video led me to this, which is not familiar.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E4rZ0eY4mic&feature=related

Posted by: StillBreathing at November 22, 2007 1:38 PM

Hugh, is it in Danish or English?
I pity the circumstances that caused it to be relinquished to a second-hand sale, but rejoice (and envy) that someone who appreciates is intrinsic worth found it. You lucky dog!

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at November 22, 2007 2:04 PM

I think the book is in English, but don't know where I put it. You would, if in science, recognize at once the original owner's name; he had a long and productive life in the country that rescued him.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 2:10 PM

Read up on your favorite or find your new best friend: http://www.akc.org/breeds/index.cfm

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at November 22, 2007 2:25 PM

The link to the American Kennel Club suggests the wrong domestic pet.

Surely the task on this particular thread has nothing to do with dogs, but has degenerated into something akin to herding cats.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 2:32 PM

Re: Jihad Watch Interlude

Mr. Outdoor Cat-

Aristotle said the greatest pleasure was in logical thought, in thinking that grasped objective truth. There is no pleasure principal in I-slam. Not really. They are a wee bit primitive in their understanding of pleasure. I-slam is doomed because it does not understand that pleasure is in the intellect's grasp of objective truth. I-slam prefers deception as in "war is deception".

Posted by: Frank at November 22, 2007 2:37 PM

I will not arouse the anger of the benevolent despot by linking to favorite songs. But this, the Jihad Watch Interlude, is an excellent idea.

Is the emphasis on late 1920 - early 1930 singers a subtle reference to those innocent (or not so) and carefree (well, except for that global Great Depression, but back then "we were all in it together" which took some of the edge off it) times leading up to the horrors to follow?

Posted by: special_guest at November 22, 2007 2:37 PM

And as we have come round to domestic pets, and therefore to domestic petting, in a holiday mood I will put up one bonus link today, pour decourager les autres:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qj83T2_CGeQ

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 2:40 PM

I don't know what "pour decourager les autres" means, but I like the pussy cat, Hugh. In any case, it made me think about pussy cats. It focused my attention there.

Posted by: Frank at November 22, 2007 2:49 PM

"I don't know what 'pour decourager les autres' means..."
-- from a posting above

Merely a twist or possibly two, a double-lutz, performed on the thin ice of that overused French phrase "pour encourager les autres." I call it htus because there is more than exchanging one word for its semantic opposite. The original use of the verb was not straightforward, and the deliberately chosen opposite, while more so, is not quite so. One kind of meaning is drained; the opposite reintroduces the literal, and thus becomes more than literal, because one keeps in mind the underlying, and prompting, original.

The phrase comes from Voltaire in his otherwise sunny-side-up "Candide," as a way to mordantly describe the reason behind the English execution of Admiral Byng in 1756. Voltaire wrote that "dans ce pays-ci [Great Britain], il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres." Very freely tranlated that means "in that country, it has been found useful from time to time to execute an admiral in order to 'encourage' the others."

There are quick ways to look things up. Reference books, for example. And we'll always have Google.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 3:06 PM

An interlude from Islam is most welcome, but one that strictly, by the written decree of a despot, bans pop music, that omits humor, that indeed, by default, banishes the musical peccadilloes most abhorrent to islam’s charter; the salacious hard rock, the degenerate heavy metal, even the prurient crooning of those Backstreet Boys, leaves me declaring in the fashion of Otto, the bus driver, . . .Zeppelin Rules! Would even ABBA pass muster under this interlude regime, or is it too modern, too new-fangled, just too damn ubiquitous?

This exercise seems less like celebrating what islam derisively thinks of our pop culture, and more like paying homage to the favorites of our resident likely-octogenarian. This is not an interlude, I dare say, but an "interhughed". There, a new word for the day.

I will not submit.

Strike me down if you will, for this infidel blasphemy, but I can assure you . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY

Posted by: jihadwatcher at November 22, 2007 3:41 PM

Comment on the above:

1) I am not an octogenarian, though I hope to be one some day.

2) If I am trying to effect, a Revolution in Taste, or possibly, if you prefer (I don't) the Vendee to Lexington and Concord, a counter-revolution, then I'll be damned if I'll offer more of the unendurable same, the crap one kind find, at any hour, on virtually any station, anywhere you listen or look.

3) You will find the very song you posted, in a fit of spirited defiance, already posted by me nearly a month ago, at www.newenglishreview.org, under the article "How They Sang the War...When The War Was World War II."

The other songs were representative of their respective countries. In the case of the Italian "Bella Ciao," I chose the best version (with the original song of the rice-women on which the famous song of the Italian partigiani was based, not to mention their beautiful rustic delivery)) despite the "evviva liberta e communismo" placard, the second part of which must be received with some historical sense).

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 3:53 PM

Ah me. I have screwed up yet again.

I was listening to one of Ahmed Deedat's videos when I turned to JW and clicked the link. Imagine my distress to hear Mr. Deedat's sanctimonious brayings and hee-hawings overlapping the dulcet tones of Ms. Matthews. Mea culpa. Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Chatillon at November 22, 2007 4:19 PM

Ah, indeed, so this "interlude" is not a break from the reporting of the jihad and sharia menace at all, as it was originally billed and enthusiastically embraced, but actually a C. Montgomery Burns-style "revolution in taste" in defiance of all that "crap" one can find on "virtually any station". So basically, that means everything from ABBA to ZZ TOP and perhaps even the recent off-key caterwauling of those four mop tops on the Ed Sullivan Show.

And the point of this anti-pop music decree on Jihadwatch is what? If I want to hear the negative opinion of pop music, present and past, I can go to memri.org and listen to the imams rail.

Posted by: jihadwatcher at November 22, 2007 4:19 PM

Ernie K. Doe - Here come the girls

http://hypem.com/track/419246

Posted by: DaveMate at November 22, 2007 4:38 PM

We have a winner :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0oCmDXrVk

Posted by: DaveMate at November 22, 2007 4:50 PM

"The relief provided may be literary, musical, cinematic, philological, historical, or anything-at-all in nature." 8:38

Pelayo is not fuming, he is just perplexed.

Posted by: Pelayo at November 22, 2007 4:51 PM

Dalai Lama

The power of intention, guided by the altered perception that sees no obstruction, can create its own reality.

Posted by: DaveMate at November 22, 2007 4:54 PM

Hugh said

In the case of the Italian "Bella Ciao," I chose the best version (with the original song of the rice-women on which the famous song of the Italian partigiani was based, not to mention their beautiful rustic delivery)) despite the "evviva liberta e communismo" placard, the second part of which must be received with some historical sense).

If you insist on taking the role of Major Winchester, from that other war, in that other theatre of operations, it relegates the rest of us to the part of Hawkeye Pierce, or failing that, Radar O'Reilly. There's probably even a Hotlips Hoolihan or two out there.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Posted by: special_guest at November 22, 2007 4:57 PM

An interlude, a reminder of a simpler time when "Sixteen Candles" or "Turn Around Look at Me" did not indicate a song by a pedophile or a stalker. I was just trying.

If I had posted "Sixteen Candles" or "Turn Around Look at Me" they would have been stricken.

A clash of generations?

Posted by: Pelayo at November 22, 2007 4:58 PM

Hugh has a thing for girl singers of the 20s and
30s. Good on him. That's certainly a wonderful
time in popular music, vibrato was widespread,
and the songs were better than today's. However,
I got the impression that Hugh disparaged the
instrumental side of jazz in deference to the
vocal, so I offer this as a remedy to his Trane
induced trauma

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hKEqEBAo6FE

I'd offer this too, but for the fact that the
name of the song is a target on account of
you-know-what...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m2U1MGX8SLU&feature=related

Posted by: root_cause at November 22, 2007 5:19 PM

From Hugh:

"… a place to remind the audience of performers who have been forgotten or remain unknown or, if not entirely forgotten or unknown, then insufficiently appreciated because they were from another time, another space."

Here's something that has nothing to do with Islam and never will, with music by a composer who is unknown, and never will be: me. I cobbled this together today from Apollo and Space Telescope imagery and bits of original composition. The background is a sonata of sentimental, then syncopated, synthesizer music… with the drumbeat of chaos in the background.

Thanks To The West produced by RalphInfidel

Imagery by NASA, ESA, and The Hubble Heritage Team (STSci/AURA)

Insufficiently appreciated? Taste? Probably not.

Posted by: RalphInfidel at November 22, 2007 5:53 PM

Andrew Lloyd Webber was obsessed by Jessie Matthews at one point and was attracted to Sarah Brightman because of her physical resemblance to star in her thirties heyday.

Posted by: wallyUK at November 22, 2007 6:23 PM

Hugh, please make your selection:

"Marie"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zuPNZwq10QQ

"Marie"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1rGQ3LH_Mqk

Posted by: Pelayo at November 22, 2007 6:45 PM

Three replies to three different postings:

1.

"a clash of generations?..."
-- from a posting by Pelayo, whose early posting (originally #3) I now see I should not have removed, and now apologize for so doing, since I have subsequently failed to remove others even more egregious

Nothing generational about it. Plenty of people my age or much younger are Deadheads or worse. Plenty of people far older than I are completely indifferent to what quickens me about certain songs that go back to the 1920s and 1930s. But “The Interlude” is not simply a place for everyone and his brother to put up whatever he feels like, because he wishes to “share” something, that something being well-known, easily accessible all day and all night, on a million radio and Internet channels. That would be an uncontrollable mess. Those who are indignant because they think that an Internet site is akin to a place of public accommodation, and that it should not only be open to all those who wish to visit, but also be willing to countenance any and all contributions by those visitors, no matter how that may cause long-laid plans to gang agley, have another think coming. Apparently there are some who want democracy, or still worse, equality in such matters. I don’t much care for that idea. The Interlude as conceived is intended to reflect, as I wrote, one person’s taste, my taste, my own sense of what is being overlooked undeservedly, or perhaps known (even well known) in one country, but hardly known outside that country. Everyone can suggest songs for posting by email, and if they meet the described criteria, they may well be posted. There is nothing unreasonable about that.

2. "Hugh has a thing for girl singers of the 20s and 30s..."
-- from another posting above

The statement might more accurately reflect my past propositions were “the” replaced by “their” and “of” replaced by a different preposition. In any case, it certainly reflects a rush to judgment. So far exactly two songs have been up. The haunting one by Jessie Matthews, and the amusing by Dorothy Lee. Nothing can be concluded from such a small sample. Give it a month. Last I looked, Al Bowlly, Sam Browne, Jack Buchanan, Bunny Berigan, Jean Sablon, Charles Trenet, Leo Monosson, Adam Aston, Bulat Okudzhava, Pyotr Leshchenko, Domenico Modugno, among the dozens who will appear, were never “girl singers.” And even the “girls” will not always be chosen because they are from the “20s and 30s.” The intent is to emphasize those who have been unjustly forgotten, sometimes because of the passage of time and the change in the musical weather, sometimes because their careers were cut short by war and its aftermath, sometimes because mere considerations of profit caused record publishers to ignore them. Until now it has not been technologically feasible to go outside the usual closed channels of distribution to find and then disseminate such material. But it is now possible, and that is what I am going to do.

3. “Ah, indeed, so this "interlude" is not a break from the reporting of the jihad and sharia menace at all, as it was originally billed and enthusiastically embraced, but actually a C. Montgomery Burns-style "revolution in taste" in defiance of all that "crap" one can find on "virtually any station". So basically, that means everything from ABBA to ZZ TOP and perhaps even the recent off-key caterwauling of those four mop tops on the Ed Sullivan Show.
And the point of this anti-pop music decree on Jihadwatch is what? If I want to hear the negative opinion of pop music, present and past, I can go to memri.org and listen to the imams rail.”
--- from a posting above

You are peeved that I choose not to put up the kind of music that is all around us. You even manage to drag in, as a point of absurd comparison, C. Montgomery Burns. When you see some of the “cinematic” interludes I intend to put up, especially those from Dennis Potter’s “Lipstick On Your Collar” you will realize just how absurd. Mr. Burns no doubt would regard all music as a waste of time, a distraction from the real business of living, which is for the Montgomery-burnses of this world is making money. I doubt he would see much to write home about in the Jessie Matthews song I put up, or in that by Dorothy Lee.

One more time: I have no intention of offering here what is already on offer everywhere on radio, AM, FM, shortwave, Internet, or on television, with dozens of MTVish channels. That refusal hardly constitutes a “negative opinion” of “pop” or any other kind of music. Some pop singers produce versions of old songs better than, or as good as, the original. One example: Mama Cass’s version of “Dream A Little Dream Of Me.” But I’m not going to put it up here because it is so well known and relatively recent. And I’m certainly not going to jettison my own clearly-stated criteria in order to satisfy yours.

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 7:15 PM

Pelayo--

Tommy Dorsey's version.

For another "Mary" song see "Parlami d'Amore Mariu" which I put up on November 9 at www.newenglishreview.org. The link:
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/11210

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 7:23 PM

A very nice interlude; thank you. That song slows me down from a couple of hours of eating, family and fantasy football. This cleansing of my palate readies me for another binge of anti jihad consumption.

Posted by: Papa Bear at November 22, 2007 7:49 PM

OK. If you're looking for things that cannot be easily found...does this qualify?

Right now I am listening to the rich contralto of Ashkenazi singer Sarah Gorby, and the shining tenor of an unnamed man (perhaps a synagogue cantor?) as they perform Jacques Lasry's mesmerisingly beautiful "Cantique des Cantiques: Cantate Hebraique", that is, a series of passages, sung in the original Hebrew, from the Shir haShirim, the Song of Songs.

Lasry is Jewish, from Algeria, and this is, I think, his tribute to his people and his culture. It was recorded by Philips in Paris in either the 50s or 60s - I'm not sure, the record jacket doesn't say; it was sponsored by the World Sephardi Federation of London.

Unfortunately, I can't reproduce here, either, the exquisite - and subtly naughty - illustrations by Raymond Moretti of Nice, that were used in the album design.

I heard it just once, on the radio, years ago; and had absolutely no luck getting hold of a copy of the recording until google and the internet made miracles happen and I found someone selling it second-hand.

No, I don't think it will be heard on MTV anytime soon (though I did send a digital copy of the black vinyl recording that I possess, to the people who present the Hebrew program on our 'ethnic' broadcaster, SBS Radio).

I never get tired of it. Lasry's use of the flute and the luth (North African lute) is exquisitely sensual.

So far as I could discover from my researches, Sarah Gorby is otherwise known only for a collection of Jewish folk songs entitled something like "Songs from the Russian Ghetto".

I dare anybody to find a link to an online recording of this one!

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 22, 2007 7:58 PM

Such a song might qualify. Certainly it is little known. But I had in mind more popular music,of a certain sort, and my search-time is limited. If someone reading this has the music on record or tape, and wishes to up-load it to YouTube, I'll listen.

In the category of Yiddish music, I have two things that I have found at YouTube that are likely to evenutally be put up: a song by Adam Aston, and a touchingly happy (and, because viewed after the fact of Nazi mass murder, also difficult to watch) scene of fiddle-playing by Molly Picon and others in mid-1930s Poland, an excerpt from the movie "Yidl Mitn Fidl."

Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2007 8:09 PM

Interlude:

Winds of Jihad cartoonist Shem with his latest cartoon on racism and discrimination:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/11/22/racism-discrimination/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 22, 2007 8:39 PM

And another one:

Malaysia builds the Islam-O-bile with a compass for Mecca and a clock announcing prayertimes with the 'azzan'-

http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mecca-mobil1.jpg

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 22, 2007 8:57 PM

Tables for Ladies
http://www.shorpy.com/node/1968?size=_original

Leave it to Beaver
http://www.shorpy.com/leave-it-to-beaver

Posted by: Mike_W at November 22, 2007 8:57 PM

Please consider, as an expression of the indominable human spirit ascending the heights, this example: Finnish composer Jean Sibelius' Symphony No. 5 in E flat major, opus 82.

Posted by: John C at November 22, 2007 9:16 PM

the Sound Track to A Clockwork Orange.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at November 22, 2007 9:42 PM

Quiet nights and quiet stars
quiet chords from my guitar...
Not Tony Bennett's version but good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSgvvbCQq9c

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 22, 2007 10:26 PM

One of the most beautiful pieces ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sjppLW0pvg

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 22, 2007 10:40 PM

Hugh, if it were not for the internet and places like Youtube, everything would be obscure and inaccesible, especially videos of perforamances by the likes of Tommy Dorsey, or The Easybeats (Friday on My Mind.)

Nobody in cable TV is going to waste air time showing real music videos. (A real music video is in my opinion a tape or film of a performer doing their music.) I'm going back to Youtube and look for more Shindig or Action videos.

Posted by: Pelayo at November 22, 2007 10:54 PM

Lost in the stars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSK7OgqSLCQ

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 22, 2007 10:57 PM

Here's the theme song for Thanksgiving -and a clever musical rescue from the mess that Britney made of it- by a girl with talent and a sense or irony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6GqWpuefc8&feature=user

Time for a last piece of pumpkin pie!

Posted by: profitsbeard at November 23, 2007 12:32 AM

I once heard that so much of the music and movies from the preww2 era were escapist because of the grim circumstances of the day. I applaud your effort in exposing others to styles and tastes that they may have not ever experienced, who knows some bloggers may find that they enjoy hearing something different.

Posted by: stickman at November 23, 2007 12:32 AM

I don't know if this will quite meet Hugh's criteria.

Whenever my blood boils and the instrument panel exudes that monstrous wail that denotes impending mechanical disaster, my children come to the rescue. When the worlds seems to be falling apart and the leaders are clueless, my daughters need help with their dress-up clothes. When it seems all is in flames, my children climb into my lap and tell me they love me. Then, all is right.

Posted by: Kevin at November 23, 2007 12:42 AM

I took a long nap after dinner and can't get back to sleep. Ah, Thanksgiving!

Random Thoughts

Once Upon a Time

A record was made with all the musicians in the studio at the same time. An animated film was produced by real artists with real paint and brushes. New cars were painted by people. A radio was a piece of furniture, made of wood and varnished to a high sheen. Assembly instructions were in English. US Highway 66 still existed. News reporters respected the need for secrecy.

"Turn Around Look at Me" is now about a stalker, and "Sweet Little Sixteen" is about pedophilia. The lyrics to "Chattanooga Choo Choo" are now too racist to be sang - "Pardon me boy . . . you can give me a shine." Playing Ray Steven's "Ahab the Arab" will result in the death of the racist, Islamophobic disc jockey.

Find the lyrics to Barry McGuire's "Eve of Destruction" and think about how things have changed. Maybe, except for the part about Selma, Alabama, it's all the same. The world is more dangerous now than it ever was.

We actually feared the Russians?

Listen to "Young Girl" by Gary Puckett and the Union Gap and see if it means the same to you as it did in 1968.

We lost our innocence, or maybe it was stolen.

Posted by: Pelayo at November 23, 2007 2:00 AM

My all time favorite, priceless:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q&feature=related

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 23, 2007 2:30 AM

Took me a while to find it, but this is sooo good, don't miss it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJMYlw2VyU&feature=related

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 23, 2007 2:44 AM

"We actually feared the Russians?"

Funny you say that. My recurring thought of the day has been wondering why we bothered to fight the Cold War given the list of 2008 candidates.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 23, 2007 2:44 AM

Kudos Hugh on this welcomed lateral shift.
A few ramblings….
My Mom used to tell me ......
"Never borrow trouble from tomorrow "
And a good friend of mine used to drive me mad with his pet saying ..... "what is, is".
Mainly because of, whenever I asked him what he meant, he would put on a look of extreme smugness
on his face and answer with “what is, is”.
I’d ask him again what he meant and got the same reply.
This happened MORE than once, very infuriating.
Many years later I came to judge that saying as profound.
The two together form a formidable ally against those harder times in life.

Posted by: Freedom at November 23, 2007 2:50 AM

kevin,

That is a precious bit of home-spun wisdom, of domestic philosophy.

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 7:36 AM

Freedom,

Your friend's pet saying is more profound than William Jefferson Clinton's deconstruction of the word, "is," is. Antithetical. Has anyone else attempted to render the verb, "to be," utterly meaningless?

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 7:46 AM

I mean, in this world. I already know that His Satanic Majesty, Lucifer, is a master at attempting such, of such nihilism.

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 7:51 AM

"I am that am not."

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 7:54 AM

"I doubt, therefore I maybe"

Posted by: Freedom at November 23, 2007 8:54 AM

Here is another effort.

From my own recollection as a person possessing no musical training or background, let me put forth the following examples of their composers' mature styles and of Western cultural achievement: the various Symphonies No. 5 of Ludwig van Beethoven, Johannes Brahms, Anton Bruckner, Howard Hanson, Gustav Mahler, Carl Neilsen, Serge Prokofiev, Jean Sibelius (cited above), and Dimitri Shostakovitch; respectively.

These are those I can recall, several of which have similarities, both musical and extra-musical--triumph over tumult, especially.

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 9:17 AM

Popular music of the past is the alternative to the unappetizing popular music of the present that is most likely to succeed. Besides,the classical music department at this site is run by Marisol, and I couldn't possibly comment.

Posted by: Hugh at November 23, 2007 9:41 AM

The 4th movement of Beethoven's 9th symphony with the word "Freiheit" substituted for "Freude", performed by the Berlin Philharmonic in about 1990 to celebration the re-unification of Berlin.

Posted by: ebonystone at November 23, 2007 10:01 AM

Hugh,

If you know the first four notes of Beethoven's Fifth, that adequately suffices.

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 10:17 AM

I think that Sibelius' Symphony No. 5 is quite impressionistic, just listen, if you can, to the final movement. An avid mountain climber could sense it--the wind rushing, the expansive feeling, the exhilaration, the drifting echoes--experience it.

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 10:30 AM

Besides,the classical music department at this site is run by Marisol, and I couldn't possibly comment. - Hugh

Sure you can. At least while I'm busy finishing my Nocturne for Bagpipes and Steam Calliope. I have to save early and often-- my notation program keeps closing with a "Fatal Aesthetic Error."

Posted by: MarisolJW at November 23, 2007 10:51 AM

Wild Horses, a little different than the Stones version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_CDuyw4nRE

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 23, 2007 11:40 AM

Keep pushing against technical limitations, Marisol. Iconoclastic innovation never easily succeeds, at first. But, then again...

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 4:05 PM

...It may never quite catch on.

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 4:08 PM

Marisol,

However, there IS always the possibility that the corpus of your works may be discovered some day--even after generations of aesthetes pass on.

Provided, one may hope, that that corpus doesn't emit the distinct odor of cultural decay and societal collapse. Even so, it may then serve as a landmark, and evoke nostalgia and romanticism--however perverse.

Yes, I can picture it, even now:

"The New Gothic Revival."

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 4:28 PM

Been there, done that...

HHhmm... Wait, I know:

"The NEW New Gothic Revival."

Posted by: John C at November 23, 2007 4:32 PM

and I’m certainly not going to jettison my own clearly-stated criteria in order to satisfy yours.

I suggested no criteria. Nor had I any intention of sharing my musical tastes. (Although I did offer up Vera Lynn, to which you snorted that it was insufficiently new to you.) I don't come to jihadwatch for musical interludes. Nor does anyone else. Consequently, I think you will find the ratings for this pilot program rather dismal. (Thankfully, the production costs are negligible.)

However, one can argue, as I have, that this call for an "interlude" was disingenuous as it was billed for it sent out a request for suggestions and/or contributions when in fact it was nothing more than a request for tribute. For what purpose? Why call for an interlude, when you have made it clear it is merely the cultural indulgence of one man? Why not call it paying homage, or giving oblation? More to the point, why should others, who come to this site for news reporting on global jihad and hometown sharia, indulge you so, pay you homage, come and leave a bag of gold coins on your step, aside from the observation that you are boss, or, at least, consiglieri? Thus, my earlier question, as to the meaning of this, remains unanswered.

Reminds me of, at least in milieu if not in degree, the Suetonius story told of the emperor Caligula, true or not, we do not know, but his penchant for indulgence and tribute was legendary, who, in the process of taking a bath, would have little boys swim around and under the water, as goldfish in a pond, taking little nibbles of the emperor's penis for his delight.

Just an interlude from the dreary business of state, I suppose.

Posted by: jihadwatcher at November 23, 2007 7:35 PM

Not that it matters, but, due to the strictures placed on the 'Interlude' content, my interest in it has been squelched.

But, that's just me, of course.

Posted by: Abscedere at November 23, 2007 7:48 PM

I believe what Hugh is looking for is relief from the constant stream of jihad stories, in the form of snippets and reminders of our civilizational legacy worth fighting for - not so much those snippets and reminders worth surrendering over.
Opinions on what those might be will differ.
Herding cats indeed.

Posted by: Mike_W at November 23, 2007 9:47 PM

Well, I don't know your e-mail Hugh because I send everything to Robert, but I thought you might be interested in this. It is a little know recording by a well known artist who is no longer with us. I heard it on the radio once about 20 so odd years ago and have asked DJ's to play it for me but because it is not P.C. to do so, they have declined for the past decade. Pity, because it is haunting and beautiful, and it is one of the reasons I fight the good fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KicG-FP9xv8

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 23, 2007 11:25 PM

Herding cats?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONmhQJy1ViA

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 23, 2007 11:29 PM

"I suggested no criteria. Nor had I any intention of sharing my musical tastes. (Although I did offer up Vera Lynn, to which you snorted that it was insufficiently new to you.) I don't come to jihadwatch for musical interludes. Nor does anyone else....this call for an "interlude" was disingenuous as it was billed for it sent out a request for suggestions and/or contributions when in fact it was nothing more than a request for tribute. "
-- from a posting above

In rejecting my criteria, in more or less insisting that I had no right to impose them (genreally, works that are now insufficiently known, though once known far better or never sufficiently known, possibly because they were by obscure performers, or by performers in distant lands whose works never received attention in this country, you were indeed suggesting criteria: for you were arguing, essentially, that recent works, and well-known works should also be included.

When you posted Vera Lynn, I merely observed that I had, at another website, already put up that very same song, and far from "snorting" as you describe it, I was clearly implying that I would not only be putting up that song, but others from the same era that reflected or embodied the musical response to World War II -- by the United States, France, Italy, and the Soviet Union. You chose not to comprehend.

When you write that "this call for an "interlude" was disingenuous as it was billed for it sent out a request for suggestions and/or contributions" but in fact was a request for "tribute" I don't know what you read. I said clearly that I would do the choosing. Read the original posting again. It was unambiguous. There was no attempt to level "tribute" but merely not to make this a free-for-all, karaoke session. It was one person's choice; I am that person. After many continued to make their own suggestions and to post links to various favorite songs, often overlooking or ignoring the criteria, I at that point said that it would be better to send suggestions to me, via e-mail, and that they would then be considered if they met the criteria listed. That hardly amounts to, as you put it, my having "sent out a request for suggestions and/or contributions." I never, not once, changed my criteria and I never once "sent out a request" for anything; I merely said that if one had a suggestion one dearly wished to make, by all means send it in rather than simply post it. End of story. Your indignation is misplaced, is baseless.

When you say "I don't come to jihad watch for interludes" that is one thing. Chacun a son gout. You are perfectly free to look at anything or nothing here. I can't prevent that. But you also have not the slightest right to start getting annoyed if things don't satisfy you. Are you a paying customer here? I assume that you pay nothing to come here, right? Yet you are quick to complain. My, my. And then you further add that not only do you not "come to jhad watch for interludes" but that "no one else does either." Really? You are quite wrong. Robert was very enthusiastic about the idea, and kept after me about it. Many other visitors to this site, over the past two days, have by email expressed similar enthusiasm. Do you speak for all these people? Since when?

As for your Suetonius story -- well, that's a nasty little tale, isn't it? What is the point? Spell it out. You have the gall to think that I have no right to choose the selections I will be choosing; you are indignant this, indignant that I won't listen to you in the way that you think you deserve to be listened to. The boarding school I went to had a rule: students could be discharged who were found guilty of conduct "unbecoming a gentleman." An open-ended standard. It has a lot going for it. While the right to comment at this site is sweetly extended at first to everyone, it is not an indefinite invitation to behave as one likes, however outrageously. It can and has been removed from those who offer sufficient provocation, and therefore reason, for its removal.

Posted by: Hugh at November 24, 2007 12:36 AM

Here is some beautiful singing of a beautiful song:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jzugNXvDxSc

Posted by: prman at November 24, 2007 12:38 AM

"...due to the strictures placed on the 'Interlude' content, my interest in it has been squelched."
-- from another poster above

Really? After all of two songs have been put up? Already your interest has been "squelched"? Not willing to see what goes up in the next week or two? Your mind is made up?

Posted by: Hugh at November 24, 2007 12:40 AM

prman--

A very fitting song. "Core 'ngrato" indeed. Cori ‘ngrati. Or were you not intending to make an oblique comment on the busy day at the Complaints Department here?

I will be putting up, over time, some Roman stornelli (sung by Gabriella Ferri), and Neapolitan songs by Domenico Modugno. In the "Cinematic Interludes" there will be lots of the inexhaustible Sordi (and a bit of Monica Vitti in "Polvere di stelle"), Silvana Mangano’s most famous movie performance, Anna Magnani, and Toto. Meanwhile, here's something that you might like that I will put up in a month or two under the regular “Interludes” rubric:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHSVYOXOvFg

Posted by: Hugh at November 24, 2007 1:52 AM

Attempted levity. (I hope there is no law against that.)

Marisol,

Now, about your sketching a "Nocturne for Bagpipes and Steam Calliope":

It's about your chosen media of expression. Sounds much too newfangled to me--too much mechanical apparatus. I am, after all, a member in good standing of the Ned Ludd Society, so I am rather an avowed technophobe.

BTW, here's a thought even more deliciously decadent (I have anarchic tendencies)--just think, this may all, ultimately, usher in a new era--"The NEW New Retro-Gothic Punk Revival," aka: The End of Civilization as We Know It.

Please don't take me to task--the preceeding impertinence is not, after all, directly related to our present difficulties.

Posted by: John C at November 24, 2007 2:08 AM

Go back to an article I put up on September 12, 2007, called "The Schadenfreude of the Arabs." The posts on the thread under the article are worth reading.

Here's one of those posts, one that I put up:

"Connoisseurs of the not-immediately-obvious will perhaps share my suspicion that the poster who calls himself "jihadwatcher" above has previously appeared here as "Norseman," and subjected me to the same kinds of criticism, in virtually the same words. For example, here is what he wrote, complete with that tell-tale word “bloviation” that he is so fond of, on September 22, 2006:

“The other day, I took some abuse for mentioning the "bloviations of the insufferable windbag Hugh Fitzgerald." What an injustice!

Is is possible that we are looking here at a new record? Mr. Fitzgerald, may I suggest that you buy a few periods (full stops)? May I also note that it is not good to begin a sentence with a conjunction?

You, sir, are indeed a semiliterate, bloviating, insufferable windbag. I rest my case.”

[Posted by: Norseman at September 22, 2006 10:17 AM]

The same poster – whether he calls himself “Norseman” or “jihadwatcher,” also seems to have unusual views for someone who visits this site. For example, he was ecstatic when the news was posted here that two men, neither of them Muslim, were arrested for the murder of the Armanious family [Egyptian-American Copts], because he thought it would undo this site and its principals.

Here is how he put it:

“Surely you people realize that you, Robert Spencer, and Jihad Watch have now been completely discredited by your hateful and prejudiced actions. Will you not now at least do the decent thing, appologize to the Muslim ummah, and abandon your opposition to Islam?"

[Posted by: Norseman at March 5, 2005 10:02 AM]

Another poster promptly provided additional information about "Norseman":

"I remember Norseman from AOL's MidEast forum. He's pro IslamofFacist and a rabid Jew hater."

[Posted by: Kemaste at March 5, 2005 12:06 PM]

So perhaps there is a bit more going on than an attempt at literary criticism. Perhaps Norseman/jihadwatcher doesn’t like the way I put things for other reasons.

[Posted by: Hugh at September 12, 2007 5:22 PM]

"Jihadwatcher" never responded to this posting directly. Had the charge been false, I would have thought he would respond, loudly and at once. But he never did. Instead he has chosen to quietly reappear, and to complain about the "Interludes" that I apparently intend to choose the songs that will be put up at JW, and he is greatly offended that he will not be in charge, or at least have an important say in the matter.

Read through that thread under the article posted on September 12, 2007 and see if, having read his other attacks on me, crude and coarse as they are, if you suspect what I suspect about "Norseman" and "jihadwatch."

In any case, I repeat the warning to "jihadwatcher" made in the posting 12:36 p.m. But this time with even greater determination not to tolerate such presumption and such insolence.