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November 26, 2007

Hillary and Huma

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Drudge is highlighting the Hillary Clinton/Huma Abedin innuendo, which has made the Times of London.

Pamela had background on this awhile ago: the whispers are that Hillary Clinton is carrying on a lesbian relationship with her top aide, Huma Abedin. It's certainly a salacious rumor, but what concerns me about it is not the affair but the fact that Hillary's closest aide is a Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia, and whose father was an Islamic scholar there:

The back story, as it were, begins 32 years ago in Kalamazoo, Mich., where Ms. Abedin, who declined to participate in this article, lived until the age of 2. Her family then relocated to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where she lived until returning to the States for college. She attended George Washington University. Her father, who died when she was 17, was an Islamic and Middle Eastern scholar of Indian decent. He founded his own institute devoted to Western-Eastern and interfaith understanding and reconciliation and published a journal focusing on Muslim minorities living in the diaspora. Her mother, a renowned professor in Saudi Arabia, is Pakistani.

An Indian Muslim scholar who relocates to Saudi Arabia and founded an institute there is most likely a Wahhabi. The article also says that Huma Abedin herself is "a Muslim” and “very conservative” -- and that she rarely leaves the Senator's side.

Does she influence Hillary's view of jihad terrorism? If so, in what way? These are the kinds of questions I'd like to see answered more than ones about the affair.

Posted by Robert at November 26, 2007 9:38 AM
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If anything ever looked like a Honey Pot, it's Hillary's relationship with Huma. I'd like to see the important questions asked for once. Answered isn't in the cards.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:06 AM

JW has had a thread regarding "moles" recently. It seems the time to revisit the subject.

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:10 AM

And, as usual, all we hear is the Bush and the saudi connection. Nothing, not a peep, about the Clinton-saudi connection. Nothing about the Eastern European muslims donating to the DNC - they were so thankful to Bill for his helping them out. Not a peep of the saudi tie in that area either.

I think both sides are so 'bought and paid for' by the saudis that it makes me ill.

Posted by: R_not [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:10 AM

Lets not forget Obama grew up in a madrass

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:21 AM

I hear the saudis love lesbians.

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:26 AM

I agree the potential for a mole is quite high.

A devout Muslim doing her part (however distasteful) to defeat the infidels.

What's that quote (?) ... we can be joking one moment and cutting their heads off the next moment.

Posted by: LoneRanger [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:28 AM

Check out this highly and intensely detailed study of Huma Abedin and her and Hillarys operation relation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1921983/post

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:28 AM

Mackie - that website is not very good - I got this when I clicked on it:

The requested document does not exist on this server.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay

If I click on 'okay' it just takes me back to this website.

Posted by: R_not [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:35 AM

R_not:

Sorry, the URL is actually a good one,but for some reason to does not open up on Jihadwatch.

I tried a cut and paste on an Email format and it came up fine ???

Mackie

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:40 AM

a devout muslim who dresses in latest fashion nad makeup and has the potential to steer our policies once her woman gets into power? this is almost as bad as the manchurian candidate.

Posted by: desidude [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:42 AM

Shame on you!
This is a very disingenuous article with its implications and smells like McCarthyism....

Posted by: RT [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:44 AM

McCarthy was a patriot.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:48 AM

Mackie:

I tried pasting into Explorer and it doesn't come up.

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:49 AM

I am never was a Clinton or Hillary fan but this is a bit below the belt and to sleezy for me,but the Muslim Connection should have some concern for all of us.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:50 AM

The spy for Hezbo...Nada Prouty...had no trouble infiltrating the FBI and CIA. Why should anyone be surprised to learn a Wahhabi spy had infiltrated the the camp of a Democratic candidate for the presidency and is an "intimate" confidant of the power hungry candidate herself.

What a Honey Trap! The potential for blackmail causes the mind to reel! John Le Carre, call your office.

Posted by: omvi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:53 AM

CGW:

If you have 2nd Emailtry sending to yourself, that is how mine came up.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:54 AM

Rt and Mackie,

I think you are missing the point. The issue isn't whether Ms. Clinton is in a lesbian relationship or even that her top aide is an Indo-Pakistani Muslima. The issue is about how much influence that Huma Abedin's Saudi connection and how much influence this will have on a Hillary Clinton Administration. After all, Ms. Abedin would likely be a President Clinton's chief of staff.

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:57 AM

RT:

Would it be McCarthyism to ask why a presidential candidate had an aide raised in Germany in 1944?

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:58 AM

Try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1921983/posts

I think the "s" was missing off the end.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 10:58 AM

The Quranists are intellectual Muslims who believe in Islam as the religion of freedom, democracy, tolerance, justice, peace and human rights. They fight the terrorists’ culture from within Islam, using Quran as the only source of legislation.


http://eaglespearlsofwisdom.blogspot.com/


Too funny. LOL

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:00 AM

Robert, I think your question also touches on the loyalty of Muslim citizens of the United States.

Are they Muslims first, or are they Americans who happen to be Muslims? Where does the loyalty lie?

The Qur'an divides the world in half. On one side - believers. On the other side - infidels. The Qur'an claims that believers can do anything to infidels, unless they convert to Islam.

So, the problem for American Muslims is whether they are American citizens or members of a religion that commands jihad and their ultimate devotion to it's religious and political goals.

Our problem is how do we tell? There are loyal Muslim Americans and then there are Jihadists pretending to be loyal Muslim Americans. How do we know which is which?

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:01 AM

Does she influence Hillary's view of jihad terrorism? If so, in what way? These are the kinds of questions I'd like to see answered more than ones about the affair.

The central myth to this whole mess is that Islam is a benign and moderating belief system.

I agree, who gives a damn about the lesbian thing? The fact that she went to Wellesley pretty much nails that question for me 20 yrs ago.

Anyway, I'm more interested in Barack Hussein Obama's background as a Moslem.

...smells like McCarthyism....

McCarthy was accused of scare mongering that there were card carrying communists in high places in the gov't, media, and academe.

Which indeed proved to be true. McCarthy was right.

McCarthy was accused of releasing the list of communists.

J. Edgar Hoover released the list. Senator Joe did not release the list. Again, McCarthy was right.

His blighted reputation is a massive counterpunch by the same gangs that he took on a half century ago: the gov't, the media, and academe.


Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:02 AM

RT:

That was exactly my concern without mentioning it in relation to the lesbian commentaries.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:07 AM

Here is some more detailed info on Huma Abedin and her influence on Hillary Clinton.


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/blog/blog_images/huma_hillary.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/2007/07/26/hillary%25E2%2580%2599s-mystery-woman-who-is-huma/&h=436&w=561&sz=53&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=AyxS9RsBgtXJDM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHuma%2BAbedin%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DG

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:13 AM

Re: Hillary and Huma

Man-talk about the Manchurian candidate.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:16 AM

Mackie:

I tried it going both ways and still cannot get it to work.

Can you post all or part of it here?

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:18 AM

"McCarthy was a patriot."

McCarthy was a fearmongering lowlife and a drunk who died alone and disgraced. How anyone can feel anything other than utter revulsion towards him is beyond me.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:25 AM

@cgw

try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1919649/posts

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:30 AM

It is amazing how the Democratic Party, once the party of proletarian power, has become a party of elitists with pet social agendas. Al Smith and others like him would not recognize it because it is not the place where the intelligent proletariat rise to power and influence anymore. Hillary is a creature of her privileged economic class treating sex/gender (an artificial class) as if it is a real class. She's about power-not reality. She will see what she desires to see.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:30 AM

"I am never was a Clinton or Hillary fan but this is a bit below the belt and to sleezy for me,but the Muslim Connection should have some concern for all of us."

Mackie,

I agree with you. I'm not a Bill or Hillary fan either, but this is uncalled for.

The Muslim connection is the only thing that should concern us -- and rightly so. We don't need any prayer rugs in the East room of the White House.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:39 AM

RoobartSbunsar,

No surprise you are repulsed by McCarthy, he hated Communists.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:51 AM

Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140008105X/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1U9RORJHHNI6F&colid=14ND2L0Z23IWA


Given the current state of our government, especially the state department, its very believable.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:54 AM

What is of concern is that Abedin will be one of Hillary's closet and most powerful aide if she wins the presidency.

This would be a disaster, Hillary alone is bad, but having a Muslim fundie advising her on ME relations and Muslim treatment here in the states would be a true disaster.

Still we need to find out more about Abedin, how did she hook up with Hillary, what are her views on Islamic relations, who recommended her, etc.

Posted by: waltc [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:54 AM

""I am never was a Clinton or Hillary fan but this is a bit below the belt and to sleezy for me,but the Muslim Connection should have some concern for all of us."

Mackie,

I agree with you. I'm not a Bill or Hillary fan either, but this is uncalled for.

The Muslim connection is the only thing that should concern us -- and rightly so. We don't need any prayer rugs in the East room of the White House."

Agreed.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 11:54 AM

I don't care who Hillary sleeps with but this situation is very, very disturbing. Why would a young muslim woman, raised in the epicenter of fanatical islam by two Wahabbi parents who dedicated their lives to Wahabbi islam, be interested in American politics? If she is indeed very "conservative" and a devout muslim, she has violated every rule in the islamic playbook. It makes no sense. She's not the average American career woman by a long shot; no muslima could ever claim that title. Where is her guardian, her shroud, her modesty, her submission to her male owner? Where is her arranged marriage and why isn't she dutifully living the life islam demands of its inferior women?

There are too many contradictions surrounding this "amazing" woman. She is indeed beautiful and sexy, quallities Saudi women are forbidden to flaunt. So she is either a planted Saudi spy, an apostate, or a hypocrite. Where are the death threats from outraged Wahabbis? She should be under assault for failing to comply with islamic values; many muslim women have been excoriated and even killed for far less than she is guilty of. What does her pious Pakistani mother, a "sociologist" in Saudi Arabia, think of her daughter? It amuses me to contemplate the role of a sociologist in Saudi ARabia; how could an enlightened, educated individual promote the social values of that primitive, savage society? I suppose it's relevant to study barbarism, but certainly not for the purpose of promoting and enforcing it.

This relationship is beyond biazrre and it most definitely poses a serious security risk. Oh well, considering the length of time Huma has been planted in the Clinton camp, she's just biding her time for a top position in Hillary's Cabinet. Talk about major infiltration!

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 12:18 PM

Indeed, Susanp, if the mainstream media performed any of its duties, those would be the first areas of inquiry.

Something stinks.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 12:25 PM

Hilly seems to be wearing pant suits allthe time now. Could it be that she's on her way to being converted to islam?

Also, Huma's name is almost the word "human," yet she doesn't seem to quite qite human.

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 12:35 PM

Are they Muslims first, or are they Americans who happen to be Muslims? Where does the loyalty lie?
by tanstaafl

I've seen Muslims saying point-blank to reporters that being a Muslim comes first. It was in reference to the many Muslims traveling to Iraq or other areas, including Pakistan, to fight the jihad.

One man said that being a Muslim came before being a Yemeni or an Egyptian or a Saudi, etc.

Are we to believe that once they make it to the US they would favor America or any American over another member of the umma? Camps like Islamberg and the many terrorist groups operating within the US would belie that notion.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 1:11 PM

Sleeping with the enemy is the first thing that comes to my mind....hmmm....which side is Hill on?

This totally makes my day! I've been worried that Hillary might win the presidency, but with this rumor making the rounds, then she doesn't stand a snow balls chance in EVER winning a seat in the Oval Office. Hip-hip Hooray!

If Hillary and Huma are sweethearts (eeww), and a Muslim sweetheart at that, then wouldn't that infuriate Muslim extremists even more? Putting us more at risk? Good going Hillary! Smart move madam!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 1:30 PM

Just curious but why would her parents of Indian and Pakistani descent want to move to Saudi Arabia? Are there no Muslim schools/universities worthy of them in India or Pakistan?

I hope not, but fear it might happen, that decades/centuries from now, the history books will read about how the West took on Communism and yet, all along, an even more insidious enemy crept inside our society and destroyed us from within - Islam and from the highest levels (and wearing pantsuits no less).

Posted by: HOV Dummy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 1:31 PM

I think the word HU in Arabic means spirit, and the Mah or ma means water, thus she could be referred to in Arabic as SPIRIT WATER.

Huma Abedin showed up as an aid in the Clinton Administration going as far back as 1996. She has become pretty much a side kick to Hillary since 2000.

Hillary's personal attorney for the past eleven years has said that he has never seen Huma Abedin in the same dress twice.

It is still amazing how someone on her posted salary can live in a $650,000 flat and where such expensive clothes. Maybe these clothing designers are comping her on these clothes for the exposure she is getting?

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 1:35 PM

McCarthy was a fearmongering lowlife and a drunk who died alone and disgraced.

Fearmongering? You mean like those islamophobes today?

If one doesn’t fear and loath communism than one is an idiot. Or a communist. Possibly both.

“He died alone and disgraced”?

You mean the commies and fellow travellers and pinko America haters didn’t show up at his funeral?
Well, I may be wrong, but I think they will attend yours.
Whether this would indicate that you were an honorable American, or a disgrace is for patriotic Americans to decide.

And “he was a drunk”, you say.
Better drunk patriot than a tee-total commie spy.

Posted by: thomas. h [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 1:50 PM

forget it, thomas...they still can't get over the fact McCarthy was vindicated 15 years ago, not by OUR official records, but by KGBs own records at Lubyanaka, verifying not a ONE of his targets was innocent.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200711/POL20071107b.html
...but hey, beating the dead-horse still works for them at times.
(also see the book, Reagan's War,by Peter Schweitzer, who did the records check himself, and found more than even McCarthy knew-shocking!)
case closed...lol

Now as for HITlery...maybe this person was hired to take care of certain matters contained in her mysterious hat box she never let out of her sight.
But that's another forum...
*WEG*

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 1:56 PM

PMK -

I've seen the same interviews you have, that's why I raised the question.

I suppose we could say that any Muslim under a death threat or fatwa is a "modern" Muslim. Just from Irshad Manji's writings, you can see that her loyalty is with the west and not the jihadists.

Wait a minute, Irshad is a gay Muslim woman.............

NO NO NO! I will not be dragged down that road............

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:06 PM

This simply makes no sense. She can't be a conservative muslim and a lesbian.

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:18 PM

"This simply makes no sense. She can't be a conservative muslim and a lesbian."

I would say she can't be a conservative Muslim and OPENLY a lesbian. There are gay/lesbian Muslims, some quite conservative. They're simply forced to deny it, that's all.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:37 PM

"they still can't get over the fact McCarthy was vindicated 15 years ago"


...huh? He was? Have I been living under a rock?

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:39 PM

"You mean the commies and fellow travellers and pinko America haters didn’t show up at his funeral?
Well, I may be wrong, but I think they will attend yours."

Nice threat. Doesn't quite do the trick of scaring me, though.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:41 PM

"Final score: hillary cheney one point each; America 0"

Hillary and Cheney: ugh. Truly a team from hell.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:55 PM

This relationship is beyond bizarre and it most definitely poses a serious security risk. Oh well, considering the length of time Huma has been planted in the Clinton camp, she's just biding her time for a top position in Hillary's Cabinet. Talk about major infiltration!

Posted by: Susanp at November 26, 2007 12:18 PM

I agree with you. During the "Cold War" (a term invented by the great Bernard Baruch) there were many such agents planted in the US government, including Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, etc. The British were infested with them , Kim Philby, etc.

I used to think McCarthy was a really bad guy. Actually, he was right on very many things. If he had been more honest, and not pulled the "list" theatrics, been less bullying, for example, he would have been more forminable. But he too was a deceptive guy. He was what he was. Once he was shown to be deceptive people feared him. (BTW, the permissions to deception in I-salm will undo I-slam.)

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 2:57 PM

Nice threat. Doesn't quite do the trick of scaring me, though.

Posted by RoobartSbunsar at November 26, 2007 2:41 PM

...what?

Posted by: thomas. h [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 3:03 PM

Frank,


From what I understand, the "list" theatrics was a lie, he never did that. I havent read the new book yet, but the author interviewed said that it never happened. I am ordering the book for myself as a Christmas gift. Its suppose to be a well researched book and would explain why our government is like it is today.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140008105X/ref=s9_asin_title_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1GWGTXFF7J951M9TYC9X&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240301&pf_rd_i=507846

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 3:04 PM

"http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140008105X/ref=s9_asin_title_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1GWGTXFF7J951M9TYC9X&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240301&pf_rd_i=507846"

Well, my opinion of McCarthy is quite set, but I'll read the book in the interests of open-mindedness. Don't expect it to change my mind, however.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 3:12 PM

Susanp wrote:

" If she is indeed very "conservative" and a devout muslim, she has violated every rule in the islamic playbook. It makes no sense. ...

"There are too many contradictions surrounding this 'amazing' woman. ..."

I think this makes perfect sense, & I don't see any contradictions. Think about it. If she is an islamic plant, which I'm inclined to believe more out of a sense of extreme caution concerning anything muslim, then she could worm her way into the highest levels of the U.S. gov't only by acting "western." that means career woman, western-style dress, independent-mindedness, even lesbianism. Remember, allah forgives any act, even cold-blooded murder, as long as it advances the cause of islam.

Posted by: sheik yer booty [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 3:22 PM

"From what I understand, the "list" theatrics was a lie, he never did that. I haven't read the new book yet, but the author interviewed said that it never happened".

There is a you-tube tape of his speech in Wheeling West Va. and he waves a group of papers ("I have a list here...") and then he puts it on the table of a guy sitting to his right. I think he did it for theatrics. But that does not change the facts that his charges of Soviet agents in high places was true. They were there.

McCarthy did stretch the truth and was slippery on his military record (he claimed more than he did). I think he was the kind of guy who caught a fish and would tell you he caught a whale. He was a showman, a blustery type. He exagerated. (I don't think he was a sociopath-as Fibrahim Hooper's friend the Rev. Jim Nutter is, a man who never was a Navy Seal-LOL)

A smoother type (William Buckley, e.g.) would have been better. In any case, he certainly brought attention to the issue. The truth is that he was right re Soviet agents at high levels of the US government.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 3:27 PM

Frank,

It would explain the socialist mindset of the government and media today. I have to read the book.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 3:40 PM

Remember, allah forgives any act, even cold-blooded murder, as long as it advances the cause of islam.

Posted by: sheik yer booty at November 26, 2007 3:22 PM

I agree entirely that muslims can do anything to advance the cause of islam; lie, cheat, kill, fornicate, etc. The contradictions surrounding Huma and her putative conservative islamic beliefs vs. her Western lifestyle are lost on Hillary, the media, and most other politicians because they do not know the first thing about islam and are not interested in learining. It's a "religion"; 'nuff said.

There are many contradictions surrounding Huma but not everyone sees them. No matter how this issue is raised, if it is raised at all, Hillary will dismiss it as smut politics as practiced by the great right-wing conspirators. AFter all, she is the smartest woman in the world and should be exempt from answering stupid questions. I guess that's why the debates are scripted and rehearsed. God forbid an ordinary, stupid American should ask the Marxist witch a pertinent question about a real issue.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 4:00 PM

Elric66-

I just pulled down a book re McCarthy (which I am going to read again) Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the life and legacy of America's most hated Senator by Arthur Herman. Herman admits he started out thinking McCarthy was a bad article but came to a different conclusion as he looked over the facts.

I think you can tell a lot about people from their Rolodex. McCarthy's aide Roy Cohen (I think RFK was also an aide) was a little aggressive in his approach to things. He was not above the rabbit-punch, or kicking the opponent when he's on the ground. I think Cohen was a mean street fighter-and he was the #1 pal of McCarthy. That says something about McCarthy (just as Jim Nutter says something about Fibrahim Hooper and CAIR-liars).

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 4:05 PM

Frank,

I think he got a bum rap and if we listened to him, we would be in a lot of better shape. Ill let you know how I like the book.

A mean street fighter is not neccessarly a bad thing. It just depends on what they are fighting for. If its for the preservation of our nation, culture and heritage, well we could use a few right now.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 4:13 PM

Re: Frank,

"I think he got a bum rap and if we listened to him, we would be in a lot of better shape. Ill let you know how I like the book".-Eric66

Deal.


Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 4:15 PM

It would be very easy to confirm...ask the Secret Service.

I spoke with a Secret Service agent that served during the 'Clinton years' in the White House. That agent claimed that it was an issue 'not to be mentioned' regarding female guests in the White House.

An 'intelligance room' or 'map room' showed the White House on a grid, and that people that were of importance where tracked on this grid.

It was claimed that the 'first lady' was usually 'tracked' to the guest room of visiting women and was there for most of the night, and not the Presidant.

There are many 'claims' that the Secret Service despised Hillary. I would think that there would be more Secret Service agents that would come forward and confirm these stories to true or false.

That is as long as they are still alive. The last time I checked there was a rather long list of people that have served with or under the Clintons that have died in very strange ways. I wonder how long the list is now?

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 4:26 PM

'War is deceit'- and jihad must be fought physically, by the pen, financially, or by any other means necessary to advance the cause of Islam. Robert or Hugh are so much better when it comes to quoting the relevant verses to put it all in context.

But yes, Huma certainly looks like a mole and a very well planted one.

The threat from Islam is much bigger and sinister than most of us could ever imagine. But worst of all is the deliberate denial, the obfuscation of the media and the apologists in politics who just refuse to educate themselves.

Its a nightmare come true.

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/11/26/times-of-london-discovers-hillary-clitmans-lesbian-affair-with-muslimah/


Btw: Did you know that only Muslims are human?


http://whataretheysaying.powerblogs.com/posts/1196097000.shtml

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 4:48 PM

HONEY TRAP.

Huma has the audio and video tapes. Huma has Hillary exactly where the KSA wants her.

Some people have no imagination nor any inkling how the world really works behind closed doors.

Posted by: omvi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 6:05 PM

"I think he got a bum rap and if we listened to him, we would be in a lot of better shape."

I disagree. I don't think he got a bum rap at all. He met the end that all bullies ultimately meet--a lonely, sad death.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 6:13 PM

He met the end that all bullies ultimately meet--a lonely, sad death.

You seem to gloat pointing out again and again the sad circumstances of his death. One gets impression it is your consolation for his having nailed a commie you have know. A family member?

And I don't know if there is such a thing as a merry death. But I am sure each death is lonely. And you probably agree that many died a lonely, sad death and were definitely not bullies. Just think of the millions murdered in communists gulags and prisons.

As someone who grew up under the communist tyranny I salute the man for doing his best fighting the scourge of communism. If, in the meantime, he had a few drinks too many and stepped on too many pinko toes, or showed some bad manners - so what?
He called for attention to treason in the highest echelons of American establishment and that should more than redeem him in the eyes of an American patriot.

Posted by: thomas. h [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 7:19 PM

"I am never was a Clinton or Hillary fan but this is a bit below the belt and to sleezy for me,but the Muslim Connection should have some concern for all of us."

Mackie,

I agree with you. I'm not a Bill or Hillary fan either, but this is uncalled for.

Oh i see its ok to out a male candidate concerning his private life, but not a female?

Posted by: OLD SARGE [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 7:26 PM

Bring back the House Un-American Activities Committee!

My posts about HUAC Chief Investigator Robert Stripling:
http://jeremayakovka.typepad.com/jeremayakovka/2007/07/the-red-plot-ag.html

And about its most important ex-Communist witness Whittaker Chambers:
http://jeremayakovka.typepad.com/jeremayakovka/2007/04/true_whit_part_.html

Posted by: Jeremiah [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 8:36 PM

Why did you take down my message? Don't you know that everything going on is connected - all event's going on in this planet? Why are you complicit in the people staying asleep?

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 9:33 PM

and you call me racist!

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 9:51 PM

hillary has just lost her campaign. thankgod!

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2007 9:59 PM

Again Tom Tancredo, before it is too late:
http://www.teamtancredo.typepad.com

Posted by: Alert [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 12:30 AM

Oh i see its ok to out a male candidate concerning his private life, but not a female?

Posted by: OLD SARGE at November 26, 2007 7:26 PM

LOL.. Given Bill's Oval Office sexapades, do Americans waht anothe Clinton in the office? Also here is how Billy sold our kids to Islam: http://www.blessedcause.org/proof/Clinton%20Embracing%20Islam%20selling%20out%20children.htm
This story proves that Hill and Bill are two sides of the same coin.

Posted by: Alert [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 12:40 AM

Re Joe McCarthy:

Just reading a book just out titled -'Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and his fight against America's Enemies.' by E Stanton Evans
http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/140008105X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196151719&sr=8-1

As I have been reading, I've been thinking. This is going on now - but with Moslems...

Posted by: Sonshine [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 3:23 AM

Since no one knows my views on this board, let me say I support the truths that Robert Spencer has been working tirelessly over the years to espouse to us all. Thank you Sir, you rock!

Posted by: VooDooChile [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 3:25 AM

Sonshine,
yes...it is, only those commies then are now infested firmly within the bureaucracy, running interference for mOslems, thus the 5th column being called "islamicommies"...all part of what is addressed in David Horowitz's book: Unholy Alliance.

Nothing complicated about it once exposed as it is now (which is why the insane irrational hatred spewed forth by those same left...errrr, "progressives").

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 6:55 AM

When they Clintons were running for office the first time I was surprised to hear a man who was very liberal and worked for a hotel management chain comment on the fact that not only was Bill a womanizer but that Hillary had her own constantly reserved hotel suite.
I thought he meant men considering this statement was made in Lawrence, KS, about as liberal a town as you can get. Now that I think about what he said, I made the wrong assumption.

Personally I think this disclosure is coming from the Obama camp. As in I am more black than you are and I am less Muslim influenced than you are.

Posted by: Aunt Bea [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 8:19 AM

MACKIE post

I added the "s" and finally got the story. Thanks for the correction. KayEyeDoubleDee has my vote. Intensely observant and intelligent lady!

Other than the fact that Huma is a Muslim, the news that shredded me is that Hillary is surrounded by women! Darn! half this population is male and their viewpoint is needed as well as female's viewpoint in any Democracy. It's taken years for women to get to the point of prominence, and they will stay there. But to start treating men with disdain or shoving them aside is not the answer! Hillary will find out the hard way.

Posted by: youngtimer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 3:46 PM

Hillary's Campaign Platform: "Men -- who needs 'em!"

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 4:12 PM

sung to the tune of Edwin Starr's "War"
...she loves nostalgia...

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 5:34 PM

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