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Human Events asked me to write about reactions on the "Muslim street" to the Annapolis summit, so I did that for this week's column: "Gloom Before Annapolis." But the "Muslim street" reactions didn't leave me much room to say what I really thought of the conference itself. Frank Gaffney's piece in the Washington Times, "Gang rape in Annapolis," is much better and more worth reading:
It is fitting Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice chose the U.S. Naval Academy for the venue of today's so-called Mideast peace conference. The reputation of that extraordinary institution in Annapolis has been sullied in recent years by a succession of rapes of young women.Despite official efforts to low-ball its significance, Miss Rice's conclave is shaping up to be a gang-rape of a nation on a scale not seen since Munich in 1938, when the British and French allowed Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini to have their violent way with Czechoslovakia.
This time, the intended victim is Israel. As with the effort to appease the Nazis and Fascists nearly 70 years ago, however, the damage will not be confined to the rapee. The interests of the Free World in general and the United States in particular will suffer from what the Saudis and most of the other attendees have in mind for the Jewish State — namely, its dismemberment and ultimate destruction.
The Bush Administration also, at least as far as the dismemberment goes. Read it all.
Posted by Robert at November 27, 2007 10:39 AM
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at November 27, 2007 10:53 AM
If Bush and Rice propose that Israel give up the Golan Heights, then it will be obvious that the Bush-Rice duo is, by default, in favor is the destruction of Israel. If Israel is coerced into giving up the West Bank, then Israel will be about nine or ten miles wide at the narrowest and will be easily divided, and thus conquered.
Bush is on the verge of being the worst president in history. Jefferson Davis was more admirable, and I detest the legacy of Jeff Davis.
at November 27, 2007 11:15 AM
Who will be the one to proclaim "peace in our time"? Olmert or Rice? At least Neville Chamberlain won't be so lonely regardless of who utters those words.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 27, 2007 11:25 AM
Not only is America now financing and supporting some of the most vicious terrorists in the world, they're helping the terrorists in their aim of totally annihilating Israel (who won't go without a fight).
Even worse is the US support for the financiers of terror and their supporters.
What a betrayal of the brave, allied troops fighting in Iraq, and those who have sacrificed their lives - for what? For the Saudis to have Iraqi oil?
Annapolis has given terror states the legitimacy they crave. The world is their oyster and is ripe for the onward march of the global jihad, thanks to Bush and Rice giving them the green light of approval.
Posted by: Jerusalem Posts at November 27, 2007 11:44 AM
Why is it the job of America to establish a 'Palestinian' State? Where is 'nation building' mentioned in the Constitution? 'Thou shall go forth and build nations, and change those you don't like'.
Has George been talking to Allah again? Only Allah could come up with the plans Bush seems to be following. No wonder he gets along so well with the Saudi's, they talk to Allah also. Maybe some day Bush will write a book called, 'Conversations with Allah'. Maybe Robert, or Hugh could write a different version called, 'Wrestling with the Devil', 'How to come out on top'...That's a book Bush needs to read...
at November 27, 2007 11:48 AM
"Why is it the job of America to establish a 'Palestinian' State? Where is 'nation building' mentioned in the Constitution? 'Thou shall go forth and build nations, and change those you don't like'".
Posted by: duh_swami at November 27, 2007 11:48 AM
It's America's job because these losers expect a viable nation handed to them on a silver platter. To expect them to do so on their own would be like expecting gold nuggets to rain down from the heavens. They are the master race after all so if they can't build a nation on their own someone has to hand them one-these palestinians have never built ANYTHING; they only know how to destroy. Therefore, we who know how to build a nation are stupid enough to hand these losers one
free of charge.
at November 27, 2007 11:54 AM
I think the following article on this subject is more mature albeit restricted mainly to Syria.
http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/bstephens/?id=110010912
Also the WSJ opinion page had a great article today by Sadanand Dhume entitled "India Appeases Radical Islam".
Posted by: justask at November 27, 2007 11:59 AM
Actually I'm curious whether Robert agrees with Gafney's prediction that "virtually everyone" attending will agree on the right of return which "will translate demographically into the end of the Jewish State." Will virtually everyone agree?
Posted by: justask at November 27, 2007 12:09 PM
Islamisforlosers...I agree with you that they can't do much of anything without help, much like Allah.
But why is it Americas job to hand this to them on a silver platter? Why not the Russians, or even Mongolians. The last I heard, the Majority of outer Mongolians, thought the two state solution was a good one, but they refused to send any money. Just talk. Bush does both, he talks, and sends money. And it's not even his, it comes from jizya payments from taxpayers to Bush, that are then redirected to Saudis, 'Palestinians', and others. There is nothing in the US Constitution about taxpayers making jizya payments to the Mid East, calling it 'foreign aid', which is also not called for in the Constitution, is just blue smoke and mirrors. Bush and his administration are so close to the edge of insanity that it may be that it will become another country's job, because America is too lame to do it alone also. Maybe China, or let Hugo take it on...Hugo is Da Man...lol...have a good day...
at November 27, 2007 12:42 PM
Isn't the US Navy in favor of the LOST treaty as well? Must be seasick in Annapolis these days.
Posted by: TheOmegaMan at November 27, 2007 12:52 PM
As an antidote to yet another useless conference, I'm writing letters suggesting that instead we should demand that the Palestinians fulfill the 5 points of the Oslo Accords before anything else is done. They've gotten away with explicit neglect of these sensible and moderate points, and are now looking towards another deal to violate.
What we should do is simple:
Terminate any and all material support to the Palestinian areas until the Oslo Accords are fulfilled or in practical process of being fulfilled.
That's easy to do, in theory. It shouldn't be hard for the Palestinians to edit the schoolbooks to recognize Israel and stop Jew-hatred and the other four points from Oslo. It's a "Just Do It" item.
Do I believe they are able and willing? Not an inch. But it's a very nice precondition for any further talks to take place.
Posted by: Henrik at November 27, 2007 1:07 PM
Someone in the MSM quoted Bush as saying something like he had avoided these kind of talks because they always caused more problems than they solved. Maybe he just wants to leave a legacy for the next guy/gal in the White House.
I've been looking for the hidden agenda here. Maybe it is to show the Palis for their true selves.
Or to really trip up Syria and Saudi Arabia.
Pelayo Reminds me of Andrew Jackson and the Trail of Tears that my grandmother was lucky enough to avoid.
Posted by: Aunt Bea at November 27, 2007 1:14 PM
"We also emphasize the importance of building character in all aspects of our program. The Naval Academy offers a unique opportunity where young men and women - from a diversity of races, regions, socio-economic groups and religions - gather in a special environment to learn and practice ideals that may often seem to be lacking in modern society. The result of this comprehensive process is a collective group of young leaders potentially more morally, mentally and physically sensitive than any that could be produced in another environment. That is what distinguishes the Naval Academy and its graduates."
http://www.usna.edu/welcome.htm
at November 27, 2007 1:17 PM
Relax about anything bad happeing to Israel as a result of George W. Bush's "summit" in Anapolis.
It's just another Bush photo-op. Remember, this is Condoleza Rice running it. What success has she had in accomplishing anything in the past that would indicate there will be anything other than White House spin coming from this meeting as well.
Posted by: Philadelphia Steve at November 27, 2007 1:21 PM
The only legagy that will result from this summit in Annapolis and all the previous summits and future summits to follow is that past, present and future US Presidents and Secretaries of State will be seen bending forward and grabbing their ankles while US Taxpayers' money is redirected to offshore and Swiss bank accounts.
Posted by: HOV Dummy at November 27, 2007 1:43 PM
If anyone doubts the truth of the Bible, just read this thread. Little tiny Israel, the "belly button" of the planet is the "burdensome stone" that was written about those thousands of years ago.
I have faith that it will come out right, but after much bloodshed. The chief players don't even realize how they are fulfilling what has to happen. "I will put hooks in your jaws and draw you...."
at November 27, 2007 1:46 PM
It doesn't matter if Israel agrees to nothing. Even in that, the best possible outcome, it will have tacitly agreed to a great many things. It will have agreed, for the ten-thousandth time, that the local Arabs in and out of Israel who are the shock troops of the war against Israel, their numbers in deliberately-maintained "refugee" camps swelled by other local Arabs eager to get on the generous, and seemingly permanent, UNRWWA dole, do indeed constitute a separate, distinct (in what way? religion, language, culture, what?) "Palestinian" people, that these people were numerous (the total population of "Palestine" in 1850 did not exceed 150,000), that they were there for centuries (Arabs swarmed into Mandatory Palestine, illegally, from Iraq and Egypt and other places, eager to enjoy the fruits of the economic activity and possibliities brought about by the Zionists who had started to retake the country from the state of ruin and desolation that all Western travellers spontaneously noted), and so on.
Merely by appearing, that awful man, that ignorant man, that dull-witted man, that consequently dangerous man, Ehud Olmert has, and not for the first time, done damage to Israel's case, as he parrots the language of the Muslim Arab enemy, a language now being parroted, incidentally, by everyone in the Western world, including Bush and Rice, for everyone is worn out, or has been worn down, by the relentless stillicide of Arab propaganda.
Posted by: Hugh at November 27, 2007 2:07 PM
Repeating the follies of 1938, will only lead to reliving the events of 1939.
Posted by: livefreeordie! at November 27, 2007 2:32 PM
"Gang rape in Annapolis" ???
Harry Reid redux, anyone?...a bit premature as yet, although understandable given the well documented MSM feeding only what they wish to anyway (wash times is a surprise, but still premature, regardless)
Fresh news indicates
hamas boiling over Abbas participation...
(yesterdays news, both debka & yahoo/ap)
iran is fuming over syria participation...
(Shepard Smith on FoxNews moments ago)
etc
So it would be wise to let this play out before issuing a premature conclusion that may very well end up proving unfounded.
Posted by: jcom972 at November 27, 2007 3:15 PM
As long as the Muslims refuse to recognise Israel, Olmert could offer all of Israel save one sq. Meter. It will not make a difference.
Did the Saudi's show up because we told them we will not protect them from Iran if they didn't?
Posted by: flowerknife_us at November 27, 2007 5:43 PM
Close...they need an arms deal to build up a military force, just to protect their oil industry, prone to and tergeted by the majority who want the house of saud dead...but that's a secondary.
The fact is, they showed up, which shoots their anti-Israel rhetoric all to hell (handshake or no handshake-they violated their own vows vs Israel, and face the music either way).
WE know nothing's really going to happen...nobody will sign away anything at this conference...it's about getting the mOslems to unzip their fly...and they did.
And since they speak out of both sides of their mouths, they now have to pick hardcore, which one they will commit too...
Now they either have to deliver on real "peace", or reveal their true intentions to war against Israel, thus shattering one or the other of their rhetorical formats...again, either way, they lose something, just by showing up...and it has cause expected fragmentation within the mOslem world already.
Sometimes all that's needed is getaway from the MSM take...and look at it from a different angle, and it shows to be quite different than what the MSM spews forth, more often than not.
From that angle, this was a brilliant maneuver.
at November 27, 2007 5:52 PM
Olmert has the support of, what, is it 3% of the electorate at this point? I'm hoping that if he tries to give the Golan Heights or Jerusalem to the mahometan savages, Israelis will disavow his every word and misdeed.
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 27, 2007 7:07 PM
No argument there...key is, though, it most likely won't even GET to that point, now that the mOslems unzipped their fly in front of the entire world...and now face their own severe backlash...
...couple that with the likelihood that if they don't deal soon, they may end up facing someone far less accommodating...like Netanyahu...and they know if that happens, they can kiss their scheme goodbye.
It's a grand chess game...and the mOslems got knocked on their asses-they just don't realize it yet.
Posted by: jcom972 at November 27, 2007 7:14 PM
jcom972 wrote: "Gang rape in Annapolis" ???
Harry Reid redux, anyone?...>>>
"Dubya" -- you know the man who once inferred all Jews are going to Hell --- needs his boots polished jcom972. Can you help?
at November 27, 2007 7:16 PM
Hey, who is kidding who here? This plan just might work ...—
... wait a minute, what is their plan?
Posted by: mergatroid at November 27, 2007 7:16 PM
jcom972
"From that angle, this was a brilliant maneuver."
Hahahahahahahahahaha....oh man. This is one quote I am going to remember for a long time.
I think this should be the epitaph on the Bush Administration tombstone...it should read:
King Georges Legacy
2000-2008
"From that angle, this was a brilliant maneuver."
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 27, 2007 7:42 PM
Israel will do all it can to show it is willing to bend over 270 degrees begging for peace. Only to be denied it. Iran has already made that choice for them. The Cave man of Pakistan is warning Europe by way of France.
We are witnessing the divide in Islam being Cemented.
We are in the protection racket as of today. Our Guests need to start coughing up the Cash.
What possible reason should a Country we are supposedly Beholden to, ever come to a Meeting like this? Breaking Bread with people they Loath. Unless, of course, they fear the Persian more than the Jew.
Posted by: flowerknife_us at November 27, 2007 9:40 PM
It looks to me like this conference is a bunch of hot air. Which is about all the Bush Administration's officials apparently have left in their cannon at this point.
I don't see any of this going anywhere when all is said and done (which should be in about seventy-nine years from now at the US government's present rate of accomplishing things).
BTW: I hear the quackings of a lame duck presidency.
Posted by: pythagoras at November 27, 2007 11:01 PM
not necessarily, though it's understandable to think that...
believe me, it's going somewhere, much further than anyone ever thought (review my points above)-ya just can't think as a westerner & transpose, ya have to think mOslem to get the full effect...
...things are not as lame as it, or the MSM, would love for their capitve audiences to think, and it's still in the opening rounds...
...and iran/hamas/hezbollah is absolutely furious over this fragmenting...small price to pay to prevent an imminent all-out war planned before Christmas/Hanukkah...so unless they fire those longer range rockets that hamas/hezbollah's been building since early Octovber, their shelf-life will expire, and all that money down the rathole for nothing...no wonder they're so pissed off at their peers who did show up, and the mOslem munchkin in tehran is throwing a hitleresque tirade tonight.
Excellent.
Posted by: jcom972 at November 27, 2007 11:42 PM
The cowardly Western democracies have already committed many Munichs against Israel. The only reason Israel is still standing is because the only democracy of the Middle East has proved to be more resilient than the only democracy of Eastern Europe was in 1938.
Why did Ariel Sharon pull out of Gaza and committed the tragic ethnic cleansing of his own people from those lovely towns? Because Bush, Powell and Rice ganged-up on him in December 2003 trying to push in his face the "Road Map" and the "Geneva Initiative", which was even worse. Biographers Nir Hefez and Gadi Bloom describe the troika's actions as putting a noose on Sharon's neck and violently pulling the ends in different directions, strangling him. To get them out of his face and off his neck, he ordered the "disengagement" from Gaza.
The Munich of 1938 backfired on the Western democracies, as did pressure on Israel by every US president, Republican or Democrat. And yet, the West still has difficulty learning Munich 101.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at November 29, 2007 1:48 PM
Another example of how it's more than just a conference...
His own colleagues are freakin' out...
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4815
...and the whole world sees this...
and abbas' own are committing to anything but "peace", shown by their own actions...
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4819
(which comes off badly for the palestinians and wears down support for them in the world's eyes)
...so as the show appears to be an "effort towards peace" (the official format), his own colleagues are proving their own hypocrisy in the world's eyes, so if any form of conflict (regardless of level) breaks out anytime in the next year while the act of peace efforts are being made...it comes off no different than 1941 between Japan & the US.
So as the takes come out, like the summit failing to advance the "peace process", which is true, it also shows who's REALLY dragging their feet, and it's NOT the Israelis...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=710C1845-B60F-4D51-8317-32F98545422D
...it's the hypocritical mOslems whose "peace" rhetoric is quickly becoming/proving more and more empty, and eventually, whose words shall end up falling on deaf ears, as they become more and more marginalized...by a conference that turns out to be, actually, a "put up or shut up" gauntlet.
And the mOslems walked right into it, too.
Like I said...a diplomatic chess game.
So don't anyone fret just yet.
at November 29, 2007 2:00 PM
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