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This reminds me of an old Edward G. Robinson movie I saw once -- the name escapes me -- in which the horrified good guys discover that "putting out a contract" on someone meant "arranging for them to be killed." The argot is clumsy and not hard to decipher, although I suppose those using it escaped the attention of law enforcement officials, and that was all they wanted to do.
"Terrorism accused explains Islamist internet code," from AFP (thanks to Sr. Soph):
Schleswig - A terrorism suspect on trial in Germany declared Thursday his devotion to Osama bin Laden and explained the code words used by Islamists during internet chat.Moroccan-born Redouane al-H said that when a member of an Islamist internet community was arrested, the others told one another he was "sick."
The codeword for explosives was "dough." He added that a "taxi driver" meant a suicide bomber and to "marry" meant dying as a martyr.
H, who is accused of forming a terrorist group to recruit suicide bombers for Iraq, was giving substantive testimony for the first time at his trial in the German city of Schleswig, near the Danish border.
H, aged 37, confirmed he had sworn a vow of loyalty to Osama bin Laden, leader of the al-Qaeda terrorist network which mounted the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington.
"Osama bin Laden is my religious authority," he said, adding that he had wanted to move to Iraq in summer 2005 to take part in a jihad or holy war against Americans, whom he described as Crusaders.
He confirmed that later, in an internet chat, he had said he would kill Crusaders, but he denied forming a terrorist group, saying he and his friends had merely planned a relief operation for Darfur, Sudan....
Posted by Robert at November 29, 2007 3:28 PM
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Modern lexicographers have always had a professional interest in underworld slang, as it is referred to by Eric Partridge in "A Dictionary of Slang," , or "canting and thieves' slang" as it is called in such earlier compilations of the same thing in the 1811 work by Francis Grose, "A Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue."
Perhaps now is the time for Western members of NATO to put out a dictionary of Islamo-English, Islamo-German, Islamo-French, and so on, a guide to the special vocabulary of what is not exactly an underworld or malavita, even if many of its members make their living by crime, for they see themselves not as criminals but as the bravest of Muslims, those engaged in violent Jihad rather than in all the other kinds, that other Muslims use and, correctly, find just as or even more effective.
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at November 29, 2007 3:53 PM
"Uh, sorry guys, but I'm sick--and looks like I'll be sick for the next 20 or so years."
Posted by: RoobartSbunsar at November 29, 2007 3:53 PM
Hugh:
That reminds me of something I've been meaning to tell you:
You get ahead with the dot dash system didn't I speak that time last night. Whose number is that in your pocket book, Phi1 13780. Who was it? Oh- please, please. Reserve decision. Police, police, Henry and Frankie. Oh, oh, dog biscuits and when he is happy he doesn't get happy please, please to do this. Then Henry, Henry, Frankie you didn't even meet me. The glove will fit what I say oh, Kayiyi, oh Kayiyi. Sure who cares when you are through? How do you know this? How do you know this? Well, then oh, Cocoa know thinks he is a grandpa again. He is jumping around. No Hobo and Poboe I think he means the same thing.
Yrs
Robert
at November 29, 2007 3:55 PM
Dutch Schultz's dying declaration. Didn't I put it up here before?
Posted by: Hugh at November 29, 2007 4:22 PM
"he denied forming a terrorist group, saying he and his friends had merely planned a relief operation for Darfur, Sudan..."
...as in, he planned to "relieve" Darfur of all those pesky Christians down there.
Posted by: RoobartSbunsar at November 29, 2007 4:58 PM
Talking of movies , has anyone seen the film "300" ???
I noticed some stunning parallels in this film to todays world :
I.E - the fascistic islamic fundamentalist east Vs the civilized , freedom-loving west .
Of course in the film the religious lunatics are from the "persian empire" , but the undertone is obvious , which has forced me to re-evaluate my view that Hollywood is full of leftist propaganda merchants , and traitorous dirt ... though not to the point where I fully repind it .
Check it out .
Posted by: Rikki at November 29, 2007 5:25 PM
Well, old Mo was a criminal, but he was clever enough to cloak his selfish desires in high-sounding religious jargon. Isn't the merging of egotism with claims of special endowments a characteristic of the narcissist? Ali Sina maintains that Mo was a narcissist.
Too bad the movies are too politically correct to have Muslim bad guys, what with all the skullduggery and 007-like antics. I guess they're scared.
at November 29, 2007 5:33 PM
though not to the point where I fully repind it .
Sorry I meant "recind" , and I can't even use the "typo" excuse , so I'll just put it down to old fashioned tiredness
at November 29, 2007 5:36 PM
jewdog said:
Well, old Mo was a criminal, but he was clever enough to cloak his selfish desires in high-sounding religious jargon. Isn't the merging of egotism with claims of special endowments a characteristic of the narcissist?, Ali Sina maintains that Mo was a narcissist.
He may have been narcissistic , but boy did he pull off the greatest con of all time or what ??? Convincing millions he was a prophet , based on nothing , convincing all soon-to-be-muslim women that it was "gods will" to allow him as many sexual partners as he wished ; and then to top it all off , he convinced the muslim masses to go off and conquer the world from northern half of Africa to the eastern most isles of Indonesea in the name of his own delusions of grandeur !!!
Too bad the movies are too politically correct to have Muslim bad guys, what with all the skullduggery and 007-like antics. I guess they're scared.
True , although 24's risked it a couple of times , they still seem to write in an unbelievable amount of white european "terrorists" or make the bad guys coporate types , oil barons or US politicians .
at November 29, 2007 5:48 PM
Re: Take this dough and use it to get married
Deception alters perception.
The fact that so many "peaceful" Muslims permit deception (are silent as fellow Muslims deceive unbelievers) is a symptom of Islam's sickness. For example, Fibrahim Hooper (on a program with Dennis Prager), deliberately deceives the viewers (probably using the Quran as "moral authority") by lying that a post on JW (deleted) represents the view of Spencer and JW. Everyone knows Fibrahim was lying on this. Yet, there is no angry condemnation by Muslims (or apologists) of Fibrahim for his lies. Why? Because Islam permits deception of unbelievers. (It's sick.)
There is no outcry from Muslims (or apologists such as Demess LaLaPalouzza) of Fibrahim, or when Umar Lee (aka U-Mar-Truth eeL) calls Spencer a "racist" as Umar hurls (watch the tape) racial slurs at an African American officer who tells U-Mar (politely) to move his big fat ass from a campus in Washington.
Then we have the demented wonder, Mr. Uriah Heep (Bungrealityalla in England) boobing his phony chuckle-head saying "I-slam means peace, I-slam means peace" as unbelievers look at his disengenuious, Uriah Heep poop-face, his tiny hands, and think: "who does he think he's fooling"?.
Do Muslims ever get tired of the demented permissions to deception in Islam?
Posted by: Frank at November 29, 2007 6:14 PM
The common link, common to almost all Muslims (including Ed-209 Lakovic), is deception. It's a theme with Muslims. The next Muslim lie will probably be, "Islam means plain speaking and absolute honesty".-LOL But that will be as real as Uriah (Bungrealityalla) Heep's crap that "Islam means peace".
Posted by: Frank at November 29, 2007 6:36 PM
Frank - seconded. Keep saying what you're saying - it's important, and new visitors to this site need to hear it.
I too, by way of reinforcing your point, will mention something that I too have referred to many times before - M Scott Peck's "People of the Lie".
Peck started off as a standard-issue liberal left-inclined secular psychologist. He did, however, have a certain amount of common sense, and used it. By the end of his career he had firmly identified himself as a Catholic Christian - and, among other things, was convinced that something like the 'Satan' of old-fashioned Christian cosmology existed, because...he had met it, and gotten a thorough fright.
Genuine evil, thoroughgoing evil, he insists, throughout the book, be it present in an individual or a group, in an abusive parent in the suburbs, a corrupt corporation, or a tyrant like Mao or Saddam Hussein, be it human or demonic/ supernatural, is marked above all by this: that it involves systematic, entrenched, habitual lying, falsehood, deception. The truly evil - and he gives examples from ordinary people he encountered in the practice of psychology - are People of the Lie. They lie all the time, to themselves and to others. They create confusion. (I am reminded of Oriana Fallaci's chilling description of Yasser Arafat as totally incoherent - I would argue, in theological terms, that he was falling to bits spiritually, a dead soul before his body died).
And - which is relevant to the observed conduct of many within the Ummah - Peck stresses that those most far-gone in evil WILL NOT acknowledge or endure any sense of their own imperfection or failure. Convinced of their own perfection, they scapegoat and demonise others. Since no human is perfect, they keep colliding with reality - but instead of altering themselves in response, they would rather destroy others, destroy the world, than lose their cherished illusion of themselves.
They cannot comprehend love, and are equally allergic to classic old-fashioned science, with its ruthless and single-minded devotion to truth.
If you want a brilliantly ruthless fictional description of a mistress of taqiyya, read Jane Austen's early epistolary novel, "Lady Susan". Read, and reflect. And when the master deceiver is - inexorably, beyond all doubt - unmasked, and her victims freed, listen to her squeal of protest - "Facts are such horrid things!"
There are an awful lot of people out there in the ummah who, I fear, would agree with Lady Susan.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 29, 2007 7:29 PM
I'm a "Crusader?"
Thank You for the compliment!
And I do wear my "Bring Back The Crusades" sweatshirt from Crusaderguy.com with pride!
Love being a Crusader!
Posted by: darcy at November 29, 2007 8:16 PM
We wonder why jihadists lie, lie and for good measure, lie again.
Maybe they're all sociopaths.
Maybe their system of thought is sociopathic.
Maybe it's both.
Posted by: tanstaafl at November 29, 2007 9:11 PM
From the article:
He confirmed that later, in an internet chat, he had said he would kill Crusaders, but he denied forming a terrorist group, saying he and his friends had merely planned a relief operation for Darfur, Sudan....
Checking my Islamo-Enigma (tm) Cipher, I see that "plan a relief operation for Darfur, Sudan" is code for "kill Crusaders". But then, almost all of the phrases in the cipher are code for "kill Crusaders":
"Heat a falafel" = "kill Crusaders"
"See a movie" = "kill Crusaders"
"Go to Friday prayers" = "kill Crusaders"
"Walk the dog" = "kill Crusaders"
"Go Christmas shopping" = "kill Crusaders"
"Read the funny pages" = "kill Crusaders"
etc.
at November 30, 2007 4:21 AM
Let's see now......... the pellet with the poison.......
Posted by: Shy Guy at November 30, 2007 6:40 AM
""Osama bin Laden is my religious authority," sez he...
...I will wager Allah is really disappointed....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at November 30, 2007 6:45 AM
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