That's right, if free speech can be squelched in democratic India by Islamic theothugs, then it can be anywhere. India should really arrest and lock up anyone who threatens someone like this. And where's the protest from the Indian CAIR (CIIR)?
See, Islam and democracy don't mix.

Posted by: jewdog at December 1, 2007 7:42 AM

That is sad--about India allowing bullying by Moslems, I mean.

In another country*--not as Moslem-sucking as is the government of India (except for Gujarat, but who knows how much longer Modi can hold out)-- threats by self-appointed Moslem censors would best be met by "putting the shoe on the other foot."

That is, make any Moslem who opens his mouth and threatens free expression fear for his skin and have to skedaddle right out of the country to save his Islamic butt.

_______________________
*this "another country" does not exist--yet. But it will, it better, if we want to finish this thing before it finishes us.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at December 1, 2007 8:26 AM

Very, very sad that Taslima would retreat on this issue. She should apply for a visa to the USA, perhaps the last country on earth where one is still free to express one's beliefs without self-censorship.

I do fear that someday soon, there will be NO refuge anywhere on earth for Muslim apostates and detractors to live a normal life.

I'll email my song 'The Apostasy of Taslima Nasrin' to anyone interested...reach me at Oriana_Tribute@ yahoo.com

Posted by: Cornelius at December 1, 2007 8:26 AM

This is a shame. Actually, I'm shocked. I find I can't have much respect for Taslima anymore. Rushdie never deleted anything under intense "fatwa" pressure from his Moslem tormenters. Tsk, tsk about Taslima.

People, this link is posted way down on the 100-comment "Muslim math" article, so I'm re-posting it here. Order your "Mohammed bear" today! (I have).

http://www.cafepress.com/mohammed_bear

Posted by: darcy at December 1, 2007 8:42 AM

How disgusting to delete offensive (to Muslim zombies) sentences in one’s autobiography in hopes of winning respite from the hatred of Muslim zombies – probably won’t work anyway. IMO she deserves no respect.

BTW, thanks to dacy for the link to Muhammad teddy bears. I hope all British outraged by the zombie calls for the death of teacher Gibbons in Sudan will want to protest by obtaining their very own Muhammad teddy bear:

Get your Muhammad Teddy Bear while they last

http://www.cafepress.com/mohammed_bear

Posted by: FM at December 1, 2007 9:46 AM

Please don't condemn Tasleema Nasrin for caving. Not everyone has the resources that Rushie does to go underground to escape retribution. Remember, Holland won't even protect Hirsi Ali.

Posted by: jewdog at December 1, 2007 9:55 AM

to dacy --above.

Hey, it's darcy! And thanks to you, FM, for re-printing the cafepress/mohammed bear link!

I hope that Teddy sells out! (I bought 2).

Posted by: darcy at December 1, 2007 9:58 AM

Cutting your books will not stop them from cutting off your head, Ms. N.

They'll just do it with more strength, -ceded to them by you.

If you can't speak freely in a country, then it's time to leave.

Posted by: profitsbeard at December 1, 2007 10:32 AM

India has more experience with Muslims than any other country. I was once walking thru a museum , looking at what was left of Buddhist and Hindu statues when the origin of the word DEFACED hit me.

The Muslims wiped out Buddhism in India, and in both directions along the silk road. Imagine a Buddhist Afganistan? Somebody built Bamian.

I am surprised the friends of mo havent burned down the publisher and the bookshops.

Posted by: goldie at December 1, 2007 10:42 AM

I guess this is one more instance of of a woman being bullied/oppressed by islam that those glorious fighters for women's issues/rights, NOW, will be eerily quite on.

Posted by: Kevin at December 1, 2007 10:58 AM

She added that she hoped she would now be able to “live peacefully” in India.

I suppose believing that gives her hope and some measure of peace, but I ain't buyin' it.
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Posted by: Spiny Norman at December 1, 2007 11:09 AM

It won't work. When it comes to Mohammedans, one can't un-ring a bell. Dr. Nasreen (Nasrin?) can self-censor her autobiography, but she can never un-say what she has already said, even if it were possible to recall and pulp every copy of the original.

Mohammedans don't forgive or forget.

I agree that this issue is something with which NOW should be challenged, but I doubt many members are reading JW. As an experiment, I think I'll drop them and email.

Posted by: Abscedere at December 1, 2007 11:27 AM

Just like the Muslim 'youths' of Australia or Paris or Malmo gang up 6 or 8 on one. They ganged up on her. I wish she had more guts. The Way of Islam is the Way of the Bully.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at December 1, 2007 11:32 AM

I figured mincing words with NOW wouldn't make much difference in any response, so I didn't bother:

"I am very curious as to NOW's take on the situation of feminist Taslima Nasreen. Dr. Nasreen has chosen, after continuing death threats to re-write her autobiography, self censoring passages that "offend Islam and Muslims".

This woman is being oppressed. This successful oppression guarantees the oppression of other women in India. What do you intend to do, if anything, to make the world aware of this?"

NOW's contact address is well hidden in the website. It can be found under the "Find a chapter near you" section.

Posted by: Abscedere at December 1, 2007 11:44 AM

A crime has been, and is being perpetrated against Taslima Nasreen. Blaming the victim for the crime isn't logical.

I don't wish Nasreen had more guts. I wish she had guaranteed freedom of speech and safety. Or a Smith and Wesson.

Posted by: Abscedere at December 1, 2007 11:49 AM

...maybe a good writer can rewrite the KORAN and turn it into a hilarious comedy....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 1, 2007 12:00 PM

UWisconsin rescinds jizya security fee for ANTI-jihad "Jihad speaker";

Jihad speaker draws concern

A controversial speaker invited by a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee student group drew national attention this week after the group was initially charged an extra security fee to hold the event.

UWM’s Conservative Union invited former Palestinian Liberation Organization member Walid Shoebat to speak in a lecture titled “Why I Left Jihad” Dec. 4... Dirkse said he received an e-mail from university officials Thursday evening saying the university will be dropping the $1,700 security fee, allowing the group to cover Mr. Shoebat’s honorarium and helping the Conservative Union’s finances, Dirkse said.

“You’re going to get people who don’t like his ideas or feel threatened, but this is the first time I’ve ever had to pay for security and I’ve helped plan over 10 events,” Dirkse said.

Shut Up, they explained

The Muslims at UWM feel that their safety will be in danger if
the above mentioned event takes place on the UWM campus. We ask the UWM Administration to cancel the event due to these circumstances for the safety and comfort of the students. We take such an event as a direct attack on us and will hope the university will ask the sponsoring organizations to discontinue the program. You can reach us at our office at xxxxx if you have any further questions or to schedule a meeting to discuss this further.

We appreciate any efforts in this case.

Sincerely,
Mohamed ElSayed
President
Muslim Student Association

Posted by: Terp Mole at December 1, 2007 12:04 PM

This business about offending people's sentiments is crap.

The sentiments of thugs are sick perverted sentiments that deserve no respect.

A sentiment is not a right.

A sentiment is not a possession.

And I have a right to offend anybody's "sentiments" that I want.

They have a right to detest me for it.

I can live with that.

They've got no right to violence in response, and deserve to be beat down or shot in response to their threats.

Period.

Posted by: joeblough at December 1, 2007 12:20 PM

If she thinks re-writing her book is going to appease the unruly mob, she is wrong. The insults have already been made, guilt already established, penalty prescribed. She better stay low key for a long time...

Posted by: duh_swami at December 1, 2007 12:30 PM

Greetings:

It's unfortunate that Dr. Nasrin decided to rewrite her autobiography under the threats of the Muslim "extremists, but she has my sympathies. One cannot compel bravery.

More unfortunate is B.F. Skinner's teaching that "rewarded behavior tends to be repeated.

An interesting and applicable analysis of the Muslim problem in India is at: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=33ADCAA3-1E36-4665-881D-8E6C4F6C8D7B

Posted by: 11B40 at December 1, 2007 12:31 PM

The publisher said two paragraphs will be deleted? According to other news sources, three or four pages will be "removed", because they carry “disparaging” remarks about the Prophet.

It would be great if it would be possible to publish these three or four pages on the Internet, maybe with a link from this site as with the Muhammed Cartoons....

Isn't it ironic that they are censoring pages from a book that is already banned in West Bengal and probably Bangladesh, like most of her other books? How many times do they want to censor the same book?

Posted by: eoim at December 1, 2007 12:32 PM

exsgtbrown wrote ..."maybe a good writer can rewrite the KORAN and turn it into a hilarious comedy..."

Would love to see this because right now the Koran is indeed a tragedy.

That's all for now 'cause I've got to get back to the Army/Navy game. Sometimes you just have to do other stuff and take your mind off not only the world's most intolerant religion but also the most depressing.

Posted by: Wellington at December 1, 2007 12:38 PM

UWM-MSA flings Islamophobia slur;

Islamophobia can end by education

I am using the term Islamophobia because American’s fear of Islam is based mainly on misconceptions about the religion. In no way does the religion itself discriminate against women or advocate killing innocent people as some claim. Americans need to understand the difference between cultural practices and Islam itself. People like Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Spencer serve to blur this distinction and generate Islamophobia...As a MSA board member, I would like to invite everyone to come learn about Islam from Muslims themselves...

Posted by: Terp Mole at December 1, 2007 12:41 PM

"this is the kind of headline we will be seeing in the West before too long, if we don't make a stand now."

"Is life so dear and peace so sweet, to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" -- Patrick Henry.

Can't blame Taslima Nasrin for saying yes, when Western political and moral leaders are sayng yes.

What more can we expect from a West that has less confidence in the rightness and good of it's principles, than the Muslim world has in the evil of theirs.

Posted by: rational at December 1, 2007 12:43 PM

Can anyone point to someplace where you can read the deleted paragraphs. Too bad she caved in (I can only imagine the pressure she's in) but at least we can publicize the deleted paragraphs if we can get them.

This is a bad precedent that will only embolden the islamofascists.

Posted by: nacazo at December 1, 2007 12:53 PM

...

Posted by: Havoc at December 1, 2007 1:29 PM

nacazo, as I said above, it is "pages", not paragraphs. Quite typical, IMO, that some journalists minimize such things.

According to Times of India, it is pages 49-52 of her autobiography, 'Dwikhandito', which are to be removed because they had references to Prophet Muhammad and Islam.

"The lines in the work, the title of which translates to "Torn in Two" are said to have referred to Prophet Muhammad's marriage and on the Holy Quran. In fact, the West Bengal government, too, had banned the book before the Calcutta high court stepped in to lift the ban."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Correct_move_by_Taslima_says_CPI/articleshow/2586504.cms

Now, would somebody please upload these pages to the Internet?

Posted by: eoim at December 1, 2007 1:29 PM

Indians should sue their own secular govt for failing the genocide and atrocities against Hindus and Buddhists in Pakistan and Bangladesh post 1947. Hindu population has been decimated from Pakistan (25% to zero) and Bangladesh (30% to 7%), yet Muslim population continue to rise in India (9% to 15%) due to WOMB JIHAD. Indian Hindus should ask for total population EXCHANGE. No country can live in peace with Muslims - they will destroy it from inside.

West should STOP immigration from Islamic countries and deport the ones already there.

Islamic countries do NOT give citizenship rights to Kafirs, why should we be forced to accept Muslims?

Posted by: Proud Woman at December 1, 2007 2:19 PM

Dont blame her either.

But what group will support her and fight for her ? The universities ? Some politicians ?

Who ?

Posted by: dgene at December 1, 2007 2:31 PM

That is sad--about India allowing bullying by Moslems, I mean.

Posted by: aynrandgirl at December 1, 2007 3:21 PM

nacazo wrote: This is a bad precedent that will only embolden the islamofascists.

Much worse precedents already happened in India, such as the banning of Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, the banning of Ram Swarup's Understanding Islam through Hadis, or the banning of most of Taslima Nasrin's books in West Bengal.

dgene wrote: But what group will support her and fight for her ? The universities ? Some politicians ?

The Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi said Taslima Nasreen was welcome to stay in Gujarat, which is not surprising, since Islamists hate Modi about as much as they hated Pim Fortuyn.

Posted by: eoim at December 1, 2007 4:36 PM

This travesty is happening because in India (and elsewhere) the LEFT IS IN CAHOOTS WITH ISLAMISM.

It's the Red-Green Show!

The dirty, depraved and amoral Left are helping the Islamists to harass Taslima Nasreen, and they have then now jointly contributed to bullying her into submission.

Posted by: sanman at December 1, 2007 4:41 PM

I'm ashamed to say that I've never read anything by this writer. Can someone recommend a good "starting point"?

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar at December 1, 2007 4:53 PM

RoobartSbunsar, I haven't read her till now, but check out the book reviews at http://taslimanasrin.com/tn_book_reviews.html

Posted by: eoim at December 1, 2007 5:03 PM

I haven't read her works either - God! - there are so many things to read. But a starting point would be to get anything from your local publ.library.

Posted by: allat at December 1, 2007 5:09 PM

The publisher said two paragraphs will be deleted? According to other news sources, three or four pages will be "removed", because they carry “disparaging” remarks about the Prophet." --posted by eoim, above.

Please don't capitalize, eoim --Warlord Mass-Murderer Mohammed is NOT a "prophet."

He's a Charlatan. THAT you can capitalize!

Posted by: darcy at December 1, 2007 6:42 PM

So I wonder if any of the women on The View will comment on this on Monday??? Hillary, oh Hillary? Nancy, any thoughts? What was that about glass ceilings? Women may bump their heads on glass celings in this country (I don't believe so), but it's not as if they might lose their entire head!

When is The West going to make a stand?

Posted by: HOV Dummy at December 1, 2007 6:45 PM

Do Muslims have anything to gain from peaceful dialogue, from honest compromise? Can they engage in such ideas when their religion demands total intolerance of "insults" to it? How long the acquiescent cowardice of infidels will pay dividends is a more important question. I guess the thinking is to avoid conflict now so as to pass it along to future generations.

Muslims do not truly understand or accept compromise and sooner or later we may get to that point also.

Posted by: lycaste at December 1, 2007 6:56 PM

joeblough:

"A sentiment is not a right.

A sentiment is not a possession."

I can see either of these being used to flatten a certain kind of opponent in a conversation. Good stuff!

Posted by: lycaste at December 1, 2007 7:07 PM

From a well known journalist's blog http://www.kanchangupta.blogspot.com/
we have he following:

"Those acquainted with contemporary Bengali literature would agree that dissident Bangladeshi author Taslima Nasreen is not a talented writer. But there are few who would disagree that she is an extremely courageous woman who has struck out at Islamic fanatics and mullahs whose sole passion in life is to come up with the most perverse interpretations of the Quran so that they can live out their dark fantasies born of obscurantism and twisted notions of patriarchy.

Ms Nasreen gave up her profession as a qualified physician to take on radical Islamists who had begun to gather strength under the tutelage of Bangladesh Nationalist Party, led by Dhaka cantonment queen Begum Khaleda Zia, as well as Awami League, headed by a fork-tongued Sheikh Hasina Wajed. Her newspaper columns were hugely popular, especially among Bangladeshi women, although the Jamaat-e-Islami was none too pleased that someone should dare question the mullahs’ diktats.

Ms Nasreen became a celebrity of sorts in Kolkata after the publication of Nirbachito Column, a collection of her newspaper columns, which won her a prestigious literary award. Back in Dhaka, her success raised the hackles of those discomfited by the fact that rather than disappear behind a burqa and meekly accept the oppressive ways of the clergy, a Bangladeshi woman had begun to inspire others to emulate her defiance. They began to sharpen their knives for the kill; in the meanwhile, they turned on Bangladesh’s minuscule and disinherited, disempowered Hindu community, committing horrendous atrocities.

After the demolition of the disputed Babri structure in Ayodhya on December 6, 1992, they let loose a reign of terror, killing Hindu men, raping Hindu women and destroying Hindu temples. Lest all this be denied by Islamic fanatics on both sides of Padma — including those who fly the banners of Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen, All-India Milli Council and assorted organisations like All-India Minority Forum that make up the Brotherhood in Green — and their ‘secular’ patrons, the most casual scan of newspapers of those days will reveal the extent of the crimes committed against Hindus in Bangladesh in the guise of protesting the demolition of the disputed Babri structure.

It is a tribute to Ms Nasreen’s courage that rather than silently watch the persecution of Bangladeshi Hindus, she recorded those crimes in a slim volume, Lajja. Within days of the publication of the novel — it was ‘fiction’ based on incontrovertible facts — it was slammed by the Government of Bangladesh, which had clearly colluded with the fanatics by allowing them a free run, and the mullahs who, typically, were outraged that a Muslim (although Ms Nasreen says she is a ‘humanist’) should have dared put their misdeeds on record. The book was banned and a mullah issued a fatwa, calling for her execution as she had committed ‘blasphemy’! During Friday prayers in mosques across Bangladesh, believers were urged to murder Ms Nasreen if the Government failed to carry out the death sentence. Another mullah offered a reward of $ 2,000, which was really more a reflection of his cash flow problems than his desire to see her head brought to him on an aluminium platter borrowed from his kitchen.

But all this did not dampen the demand for Lajja. Pirated copies of the book sold in thousands even as fanatics took to the streets, clamouring that Ms Nasreen be executed to uphold shari’ah. Overnight, Ms Nasreen became a household name, here and abroad. In those days The Pioneer had a fiesty correspondent in Dhaka. I recall asking him for a copy of the book. He got hold of a pirated copy and sent it to us by courier. Since everybody was curious about what Ms Nasreen had written that had so angered the mullahs, The Pioneer published the relevant extracts. Later, the book was published in both Bengali and English in India; thankfully, the Government did not ban Lajja.

That was the beginning of Ms Nasreen’s woes. Hounded by Islamists baying for her blood (in the hope of pocketing the promised $ 2,000), she fled her beloved country in 1995 and sought shelter in Sweden. Two decades earlier, another Bangladeshi writer, Daud Haider, had to similarly flee Bangladesh after fanatics declared him a heretic. We shall return to Daud’s story later.

Feted by Kolkata’s intellectuals, Ms Nasreen decided to shift to West Bengal and was granted a one-year visa in September 2005. But before that, she had run into trouble with Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee who, despite his pretensions of being a writer and a Marxist, gave in without a fight and banned her autobiographical book, Dwikhondito, in November 2003 because it had references to the perversion of Islam by those who use religion to perpetuate their twisted notions of a Muslim woman’s place in society. Another book, Aamar Meyebela, also ran into trouble and was promptly banned in Bangladesh. The publishers of Dwikhondito went to court and appealed against the ban. The Calcutta High Court declared the ban was “untenable” and “unjustifiable” in September 2005.

Dwikhondito reappeared in bookshops and became an instant bestseller, not least because it rips off many a ‘secular’ and ‘progressive’ mask.

On August 10 this year, when Ms Nasreen visited Hyderabad for the launch of her translated works, she was set upon by leaders of Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen who insisted that she should be handed over to them so that they could punish her for her ‘sins’. She escaped the lynching but the incident showed that fanatics had put in motion a plan to hound her out of India.

Last Wednesday’s riots in central Kolkata when murderous mobs owing allegiance to All-India Minority Forum, headed by Mr Idris Ali, a Congress leader, demanded that she be thrown out of the country, are part of this devious plan whose ultimate goal is to demonstrate the might of radical Islamism in ‘secular’ India. Mr Biman Bose, chairman of the Left Front and a member of the CPI(M) Polit Bureau who loves to be portrayed in media as a remorseless, cold-blooded commissar, wilted in the face of Muslim fury and ensured Ms Nasreen’s eviction from Kolkata and West Bengal. Since then, she has been on the run, first seeking shelter in Jaipur and then in Rajasthan House in Delhi...."

Posted by: AJack at December 1, 2007 7:09 PM

Will her re writing her book really make a difference as to her life being at risk?Is she really free now of that threat?

Not even in the least.Some nutjob of a pious and perfect true muslim will kill her the first chance he gets.

lets look at the teacher who had her islamic day in court,over a student naming his teddy bear after himself, and how the pious and holier than thou true muslims still are not satisfied with the bloodless verdict.

Taslima Nasreen did herself no favors in my opinion and did us none either.These holy jokers want her dead for insulting the tightly coiled pile on the neighbors lawn.One way or another they will kill her,so she has to worry whether she changes her book or not.

But i do agree it is understandable why she chose to edit it.Very understandable,still i see that it makes no difference really.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at December 1, 2007 8:01 PM

There was more here, than risk to her own life - there was the risk of mass-murder...

From the Nov 22, 2007 version of the Indian telegraph, we read:
http://www.telegraphindia.com//archives/archive.html

QUOTE
"Aurangzeb Alam, 24, has never read Taslima Nasreen but he read her the riot act on Wednesday.

“Agar sarkar ne Taslima Nasreen ko Calcutta se nahin bhagaya to yahan pe khoon ka dariya bahega (If the government doesn’t chase Taslima out of Calcutta, a river of blood will flow here),” thundered Alam, a rioter-in-chief at the AJC Bose Road-Ripon Street crossing.

Clad in T-shirt and Bermudas, the unemployed youth of CIT Road led a mob of around 35, all aged between 15 and 20, all armed with bricks and soda bottles, and all targeting the cops"
UNQUOTE

Essentially, mass-murder was being bandied about by the Moslems here, not just threat to Nasreen's life...

So, yes, she did bow to the Islamists...but, I'm sure she did not want her criticism of Islamic misogyny and brutality, to cause yet another mass-murder event in India.

Posted by: AJack at December 1, 2007 8:47 PM

Thanks to 11B40 for linking to a very interesting & useful analysis by Moorthy Muthuswamy of what can be done to destroy political Islam at http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=33ADCAA3-1E36-4665-881D-8E6C4F6C8D7B

He makes a viable plan of action. I’ll extrapolate a bit: first, governments in the US & Europe must shut down all mosques that refuse to stop radicalizing Muslims with Jihadist ideology (this is not prohibition of religion but self-defense in a very real war). These Mosques are the fuel cells for the terrorism we are at war with. If there is violent agitation over the shutdown then the mosques should be razed to the ground. Legal justification, perhaps through legislation, I believe, can be put forth (we are at war after all).

I also think that supporting the Hindu politicians fighting Jihad in India is also a good part of an effective strategy, as he indicates.

Posted by: FM at December 1, 2007 8:51 PM

FM: Like the proposals you mentioned but know well that the Left will fight tooth and nail in one Western country after another, including here in America, to thwart the action you have suggested as necessary to preserve the West as we know it. Do not underestimate the subliminal self-loathing and overall general idiocy of the modern Left. It will work with Islamic extremists in emplyoing Western liberties for warped purposes. Count on it.

Posted by: Wellington at December 1, 2007 9:40 PM

Nasreen hopes to appease the Destroyers by rewritng her book. Forget it-they never forgive or forget any transgression, no matter how slight or accidental. This woman will have to sleep with a gun under her pillow for the rest of her life because these lunatics never are satisfied.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 1, 2007 9:46 PM

In the article to which a link is given in a posting above, one more of those young Muslims claiming that "Islamophobia" explains mistrust of Muslims and of Islam, and if only we "learned about Islam from Muslims themselves" we would think differently, is full of the usual nonsense. ]

Of course we do "learn from Muslims themselves" whenever we read, and re-read, the Qur'an, especially the 100-odd "Jihad" verses (see the Calcutta Qur'an Petition), and hundreds of Hadith, and the Sira that tell us all we need to know about Muhammad, revered by Muslims as uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil, but appearing to many of us as something quite different in his own words and deeds. And we "learn from Muslims themselves" when some of those Muslims become ex-Muslmis, and defect -- like Wafa Sultan and Nonie Darwish and Ibn Warraq and Ayaan Hirsi Ali -- from the Army of Islam.

And we "learn from Muslims themselves" when we read what Muslim commentators and theologians wrote about the duty of Jihad -- some of the most important such commentators have been collected to form part of the contents of "The Legacy of Jihad," a useful sourcebook compliled by Andrew Bostom.

And we "learn from Muslims themselves" whenever we turn on the radio, or television, or read what has just happened in Khartoum, or Karachi, or in a thousand places where Muslims cry out for someone to be killed, and often, in Dar al-Islam, someone is killed by others more fervent in their Islam. And there is no prospect of it stopping.

Yes, we already do "learn from Muslims themselves." And the offer to attend some predictable outreaching Muslim or Mosque Open House sticks in the craw, for taqiyya-and-tu-quoque just won't do, anymore. They would have sufficed five years or especially ten years ago. But not now. And not ever again.

Posted by: Hugh at December 1, 2007 9:55 PM

Any author would welcome rave reviews. But lately Taslima Nasreen has been thinking about grave reviews, and it's those she doesn't care for.

Posted by: Hugh at December 1, 2007 10:09 PM

Morrissey weighs in on immigration:

Morrissey complains that immigration has led to the loss of Britain's identity

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at December 1, 2007 11:43 PM

WW,

His music is not my favorite, save for an old Smith's song or two, but unfortunately, he is spot on.

Posted by: awake at December 2, 2007 12:27 AM

if only we "learned about Islam from Muslims themselves" we would think differently...

What does the word, "learn" mean to a Muslim? The children "learn" about the Qur'an in madrassas by rote memorization. Islam discourages independent thought and critical thinking when logic and reason is surrendered to follow "Allah's will" like a good zombie. Never question, never criticize, just obey. Muslims want the West to "learn" about Islam by unquestioned acceptance of dawah and taqiyya.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Xero G at December 2, 2007 1:28 AM

From the article,
“I have done what I have never done in my life. I have compromised even in a secular India.”

It pains me to say it but Taslima, it is not secular India but a quasi-islamic state we are living in.

To fight these mohammedan whacko's, IMO, us kaffir's have just one option: eradicate islam.

Posted by: desi_singh at December 2, 2007 1:39 AM

I take slight offense to anyone’s use of Mr. Spencers’ good name by altering it and using it as their own blog-handle, exemplifying the laziness of thought that this site is trying to counteract. I say slight offense because I welcome all opinions, especially on this dangerous topic and situation with respect to Islam and its ideals. If half of the facts presented here are true, the danger is real and must be seriously discussed. I am disheartened to see only 30-40 or so comments on average, instead of 300 million. This tells me that not enough of my fellow Americans have realized what the stakes are and how we are now all personally involved and in greater danger … having overrun two “muslim” countries, with our forces possibly ready to inflict a pincer-movement on a third. So please, Roobart Sbunsar, pick a new, respectful name (one that perhaps denotes service of some kind or state of mind). Mr. Spencer is constantly displaying bravery and fortitude in the face of true evil. I know he and Professor Fitzgerald deserve my respect, trying to help me know what I need to know to save my own life and all.
Because I live in the Bay Area, I plan to attend the Michael Savage Courtroom Drama, if it plays out here, and will be happy to take notes and report all I can. He is one of few who were uniquely brave enough to shock me with the truth by hosting the Nick Berg beheading. After seeing that, and reading here, all the answers keep flooding in. These are the same people who cut the throats of the pilots and stewardess’ on that fateful morning. Same mentality, same knife-wielding, same oaths, same chanting,.. same atrocities.
With respect to people having to donate to his defense, I am a little surprised he is not able to initially mount his own defense, saving donations for the counter-suit and victory party, with that in-your-face-Mohammed- Ali- style…pun intended.

Posted by: AmericanTiger at December 2, 2007 3:41 AM

As for the ttp://www.cafepress.com/mohammed_bear, it is admirable to show your support for the Sudanese children who chose that name for this stuffed animal.

There were other, more fitting beasts shown as representing the wolf in sheep's clothing of Makkah.

The teddy is too cuddly and cute--something that cannot be said of the progenitor of absolute evil who loosed a horror upon the world that has lasted some 13 centuries now, but will--must--be eradicated.

As to the more fitting representations, they can be found in humorous portrayals--cartoons--one in Denmark (long after the main cartoon blowup) and the most applicable one, an unpublished amateur drawing in Israel, I believe in Hebron, whose originator was not only reprimanded and jailed as mentally impaired and a definite degenerate by her own government--the Moslem-supplicating clique that has for far too long controlled Israel.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at December 2, 2007 4:14 AM

http://www.cafepress.com/mohammed_bear

Posted by: unicorns62000 at December 2, 2007 4:15 AM

I agree with Mr. Moorthy. The source of jihad is the mosques and madrassas, If the Indian government doesn't grow some kahunas and confront this menace directly the incremental advance of terroristic islam will take over that country and I also think the U.S. should stand behind the democratic element of India and assist them with our strength.

Posted by: imamerican at December 2, 2007 10:37 AM

desi_singh
"It pains me to say it but Taslima, it is not secular India but a quasi-islamic state we are living in." Very true.! Thank God that British came 300 years ago in time to India and saved whatever was left of Hindus. But of no use now . Indian Democractic Govt. is under seize of Islamis .Stupid and Idiotic Indian Cogress of Sonia Gandhi and CPI hope that they will be spared by these Islamis. Their stupidity caused loss of Sanjay Gandhi,Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. Who is next on the list ? for Halal ?. Rahul and Priyanka ?. Other common Hindus in India have nothing else left to lose. Their dignity and respect etc. have already gone and submitted to these Islamis.

Posted by: Kash225 at December 2, 2007 1:44 PM

I'm really sorry for going off topic but I need advice.

I’m not sure if this is relevant at all but my father is a contractor in Iraq and my mother lives on her own. I would rather she was safe than not say something.

My mother is a member of a fitness club that she visits almost daily. A Muslim man has visited the club on a few occasions recently and was noted only for his silence, he was not getting involved with the group, though I am not surprised at that, being a new member.

But last night he started a conversation with my mother and another woman about western women deserving rape because of the way they dress (this was in a sauna). The woman retorted that not all men are the same and left. Then he started to talk to my mother. He knew that her husband was in Iraq as a contractor. He said he was either a muscle ripped moron or a drunkard with a Thai wife, obviously he is neither, although as a one time contractor myself I do know a few drunks with foreign wives.

The conversation then continued. I asked my Mum if she felt threatened by him and she said that yes she did somewhat and it was more he was talking at her not to her.

He went on to say he was a doctor in the British Army who had served in Bosnia but he said that he would not serve in Iraq because the Americans are raping tens of thousands of Iraqi women and the media (the beloved MSM) are using stories like the Muhammad Teddy to deflect attention from American crimes.

I know something of the military, and I know he’s not a regular. But I do know that reservist doctors are highly prized, doctors don’t come cheap. If he is TA could he pick and choose assignments?

Then he started about Spain being a Muslim land and that Islam will rule over the Jews and Christians in time. He also mentioned that it was going to kick off here in Britain (I agree). But he was ambiguous and she doesn’t know for sure if he was in her words:

“Scared that it would, or the one to kick it off.”

There was other stuff about 911 being a plot and the world would be a safer place for women under Islamic rule. Apparently rape didn’t take place when Islam ruled the world.

It has disturbed her, she spoke to dad earlier on the net and his first response was calling the police and letting them sort it. I agree but mother doesn’t want to stop going there. She won’t let me go with her because she knows what my response will be.

It isn’t so clear cut. He may just be a knobber, I’m sure some people with small brains think my stance towards the WOTtm is a bit radical. But you will not find me in a sauna with women in swimming costumes banging on about them deserving rape.

Advice please! Mother wants a quite life and dad is far away. Should I report him (personally I’d like to batter him in a quite spot, I’m that angry) and go against mums wishes.

Posted by: The Other Mert at December 2, 2007 4:19 PM

"There was more here, than risk to her own life - there was the risk of mass-murder...

From the Nov 22, 2007 version of the Indian telegraph, we read:
http://www.telegraphindia.com//archives/archive.html

QUOTE
"Aurangzeb Alam, 24, has never read Taslima Nasreen but he read her the riot act on Wednesday.

“Agar sarkar ne Taslima Nasreen ko Calcutta se nahin bhagaya to yahan pe khoon ka dariya bahega (If the government doesn’t chase Taslima out of Calcutta, a river of blood will flow here),” thundered Alam, a rioter-in-chief at the AJC Bose Road-Ripon Street crossing.

Clad in T-shirt and Bermudas, the unemployed youth of CIT Road led a mob of around 35, all aged between 15 and 20, all armed with bricks and soda bottles, and all targeting the cops"
UNQUOTE

Essentially, mass-murder was being bandied about by the Moslems here, not just threat to Nasreen's life...

So, yes, she did bow to the Islamists...but, I'm sure she did not want her criticism of Islamic misogyny and brutality, to cause yet another mass-murder event in India."

Posted by: AJack

Like i said i understand full well why she edited her book,still it changes nothing,nothing at all.They are prepared to mass murder today as they will be prepared to mass murder tomorrow.So maybe tomorrow the miracle comes where muslims of all polishing caliber open thier eyes ,look within and see how evil tey are and change thier ways?

They will still kill her or want to as the sin has already been commited.She is a female.There is NO forgiveness for females in islam.Even homosexual acts in islam can be forgiven if the repenting is sincere enough and committed by men.

She changed the place and time of the next mass murder by editing her book and that is all.

I will restate that i completely understand why she did it.I completely understand.I will also restate that it has changed absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at December 2, 2007 7:02 PM

The other Mert, Tell your mother that it is when we do not stand up for ourselves that we become what they want us to be, intimidated. I would go a step further and contact counter-intelligence at the FBI. You don't know if this guy is a future problem. The seemingly nicest people to us "infidels" are the ones that will kill us the fastest because they won't be suspected.

Posted by: imamerican at December 2, 2007 7:38 PM

"....I am disheartened to see only 30-40 or so comments on average, instead of 300 million. This tells me that not enough of my fellow Americans have realized what the stakes are and how we are now all personally involved and in greater danger...."

Posted by: AmericanTiger

AmericanTiger i must agree that it is a little disheartening that 300 million people haven't posted comments as to this topic,however i assure you there are more here than what you see. I for one am just one man and i come here everyday but i do not post on every topic. I am a blogger who has 32 direct contacts.My 32 contacts have about the same contacts and some have more,some as high as 100 plus..That translates into hundreds and even as high as thousands of contacts begat by contacts.My page is viewed by my friends's friends thier friends's friends and on and on.Trust me they know about JW and a host of others.They know about this article as well as all the rest.

There is a posse riding with JW and TROP and FPM and ACT ,it's a bloggers posse AmericanTiger perhaps you can't see us for the dust cloud,but that dust cloud is us and we ride day and night.It's a beutiful thing. ; )

Posted by: Dar al-harb at December 2, 2007 7:53 PM

Don't they have "democratic" laws against mortal danger and threats for one's life in India? Maybe Taslima needs to defend herself in the highest court of their land and set a courageous example for her hindu brethren. When those with influence show fear the masses will surely follow suit. I'm surprised that the hindu population is so internalized that they've lost their identity to this gruesome monster called islam. I pray that hindu India will stand together and be counted among those cultures who want to endure.

Posted by: imamerican at December 2, 2007 8:01 PM

Kash225,

"Thank God that British came 300 years ago in time to India and saved whatever was left of Hindus."

Not true. It is off topic but I'll say this, how can you and me choose between one who killed millions and the other, who did the same?
(Methods they applied were different)

Posted by: desi_singh at December 3, 2007 8:12 AM