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This is what I really said about the "Obama is a Muslim" rumors, back in March
Bryan at Hot Air has a good write-up about how the Washington Post ombudsman rightly ripped WaPo reporter Perry Bacon's piece on the "Obama is a Muslim" rumors, but did not correct Bacon's use of a quote from a column of mine in which he made it appear as if I was saying exactly the opposite of what I was really saying.
Once more, for the record: in that column, I discussed the fact that Obama is not a Muslim. I do not believe that rumors that he is one. Last March, in a Hot Air video, I dismissed such rumors as "a lot of hooey." So why no correction on this from the WaPo? Is it acceptable to retail falsehoods about those with whom one disagrees?
Posted by Robert at December 9, 2007 7:51 AM
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I really like the last line of her article where she whines about how if reporters do a crappy job they get called on it.
Once again, WAPO ask and get answered the subject of the woman in Egypt who has to answer with jail time for her father's conversion.
at December 9, 2007 9:51 AM
I don't think Barak is a muslim, but I also know that no one is a muslim...until they are.
I would like to know what he thinks about Islam as an aggressive political body, hiding behind religion.
Has he ever taken a stand on terrorism and Islamic hegemony? What is his plan to handle the Islamic threat?
at December 9, 2007 10:00 AM
Obama has no real stand on anything. At least this is what I hear Democrats saying in spite of all the Polls.
Obama is a pig in a poke. No one knows what his platform is.
Who wants to elect a pig in a poke to the highest office in the land?
at December 9, 2007 10:04 AM
No one seems to address weather or not the Muslim world believes Obama is a Muslim, or an apostate, and how that would affect his performance if elected to the Presidency.
Posted by: songdongnigh
at December 9, 2007 10:39 AM
From above: No one seems to address weather or not the Muslim world believes Obama is a Muslim, or an apostate, and how that would affect his performance if elected to the Presidency.
That's a good question. Have we heard from Islam on that subject? Do muslims back Obama, and if so, why?
If muslims do back Obama, is it Shia who support him or sunni? Or does it matter?
at December 9, 2007 10:48 AM
By all accounts his father was a Muslim, therefore he is by default Muslim
I would like to see evidence to why people are quick to state that he isn't Muslim.
Obama can taqiyya his way around the white house, but he can't fool me.
Posted by: Armoured Passionfruit
at December 9, 2007 11:23 AM
Interesting - but what is your opinion of the UK's Prince Charles - who wishes to be "defender of all faiths" (rather like his late wife was the "Queen of Hearts") rather than the "defender of the faith"??
There has been a lot of speculation about whether Charles has commited himself to Islam - I wondered if you (or anyone here) had any opinions on the subject?
Posted by: drk
at December 9, 2007 11:46 AM
"Interesting - but what is your opinion of the UK's Prince Charles . . . .
There has been a lot of speculation about whether Charles has commited himself to Islam - I wondered if you (or anyone here) had any opinions on the subject?"
Posted by: drk
It's up to Parliament to decide who becomes monarch. Normally, of course, it goes by hereditary succession: the eldest son of the monarch is first in line to be the next monarch; if there are no sons, then the eldest daughter, etc. But Parliament must approve the succession. And since the revolution of 1688-89, Parliament has insisted that the monarch be a member of the Church of England; thus the Stuart line, who were the most direct heirs, but Catholic, were rejected in favor of the less direct Hanoverian heirs. Fifty-odd years ago Parliament would certainly have refused to accept an Islamic Elizabeth. In these wishy-washy PC days, it's anybody's guess whom Parliament would accept or not accept.
at December 9, 2007 12:26 PM
If Obama claims to be a Christian, he should be believed lacking any evidence to the contrary, this is America after all. But what would happen to relations with countries such as Egypt? Given the recent horror stories concerning changes of religion would the Egyptian government refuse to recognize him, believing him to be an apostate? If more secular Islamic regimes recognized him, would that stir up its domestic radicals? Just seems like Obama as President would create problems never before contemplated.
As to Bonnie Prince Charles, he’s a poor sod who can be led around by whatever fad he happens to stumble over. :)
Posted by: songdongnigh
at December 9, 2007 1:46 PM
Obama's problem is that he stands for nothing and won't take a stand until the polls tell him too. As far as his platform goes its vague generalities all the way down.
BTW this means if he's president and we get slammed by Muslims again, he'll fold rather than fight. He'd protect Muslims rather than go after them.
In short he's gutless and unprincipled, just look at his lackluster senate record. Even Democrats know he's pretty much about nothing except bullshit.
In regards to his stance on Muslims, you do have uber liberals like Seymour Hersh who exclaim that only Obama can repair our relations with Islam.
But then again Hersh went from decent reporter to batshit crazy agenda driven hack. So I wouldn't take what he says very seriously.
Posted by: waltc
at December 9, 2007 2:33 PM
Can I make up some outrageous "quotes" of Washington Post reporter Perry Bacon, and force him to spend his time defending himself over them? It seems to me that the ombudsman and management would be interested to hear why he would be making pro-spousal abuse statements, and declaring his membership in the National Man-Boy Love Association.
Posted by: special_guest
at December 9, 2007 2:57 PM
I don't trust Obama. He seems very shallow and superficial. Empty almost. Sort of like a sock puppet with no hand in it. Muslim or not, he is the closest thing to a muslim, that is running for President. Too close for me.
Of course, I don't really know him, if I did, my opinion would probably get worse...
at December 9, 2007 3:00 PM
Of course Obama is a Muslim. We're all born Muslim. It's just that most of us, like Obama apparently, are corrupted and led away from the One True Religion.
Posted by: special_guest
at December 9, 2007 3:27 PM
"Is it acceptable to retail falsehoods about those with whom one disagrees?"
Posted by: Robert
Why, of course it is, if it sells papers!
at December 9, 2007 3:33 PM
As songdongnigh stated he says he is a Christian. I did do a little Googling into his church. Frankly I was not impressed. It looked to me to be rather black extremist in character. By that I mean the have not dropped the slavery issue and use it as a primary reason for there being. They do have the basic core Christian tenants. How often Obama has attended or believes is unknown. His profession is as vague as all of the rest in what we know about him. VAGUE and UNCERTAIN.
What I do know and have heard leave much as far as qualifications as the president of the country. He is the least of the Dem's in my opinion (because of all the unknowns).
Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL!
at December 9, 2007 3:47 PM
The ombudsman needs an ombudsman.
Posted by: traeh
at December 9, 2007 4:41 PM
Everyone seems to agree Obama was a muslim, including Obama. Perhaps the realization that this makes him an apostate, is not politically correct. However, Islam is BOUND to reach that conclusion, or one of its sects will, soon. The question is, which sect will be first? Will the other sects follow? Will Obama get a practical lesson in "common humanity?"
Posted by: Layer Seven
at December 9, 2007 5:30 PM
I also note that Obama is a member of an ostensibly Christian church. However, the United Church of Christ is one of those bodies in which just about anything goes--including Black extremism as noted above.
However, I also agree with other posters that Obama seems to be another one who'll be a weathervane-in-chief if elected POTUS.
Posted by: Kepha
at December 9, 2007 6:35 PM
I don't care if Obama Hussein himself is not a Muslim, as Robert says.
He has many Muslim ties, and that's it for me. No. I will not be voting for Obama Hussein.
Posted by: darcy
at December 9, 2007 7:59 PM
Seriously Robert,
Why don't you sue the paper for libel?
at December 9, 2007 10:05 PM
Whatever he is, he is not kosher. And we don't want halal. None whatsoever.
A guy who holds his crotch while everyone else salutes the flag cannot be POTUS, no way. Oprah needs a shoe in her fat ass for her purely racist/tribal choice.
This whole charade sux. The cheapness of US-populism is revolting.
Get these assclowns out of politix!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/12/is-obama-an-apo.html#comments
at December 10, 2007 2:34 AM
If Obama had anything to say in his campaign he wouldn't need Aunt Jemima (Oprah)on the package.
Why isn't his own Mama (white liberal hippie) stumping for him?
Can you imagine JFK with Frank Sinatra holding rallies to get him elected? Can you imagine the media buying that?
It is hard to believe how low the media has sunk.
No wonder kids in Omaha think it is okay to shoot up a mall at Christmas. I love it when they say his suicide note says he didn't want to be a burden anymore and they do it with a straight face.
Wrong is right, right is wrong, the whole thing is so upside down and inside out it's impossible to keep your moral grounding no matter how you were raised.
Speaking of the media, they are being awful quiet this morning about the church shootings.
Busy trying to figure out how to cover up Sudden-anti-Christian-syndrome?
at December 10, 2007 6:21 AM
If Obama had anything to say in his campaign he wouldn't need Aunt Jemima (Oprah)on the package.
Why isn't his own Mama (white liberal hippie) stumping for him?
Can you imagine JFK with Frank Sinatra holding rallies to get him elected? Can you imagine the media buying that?
It is hard to believe how low the media has sunk.
No wonder kids in Omaha think it is okay to shoot up a mall at Christmas. I love it when they say his suicide note says he didn't want to be a burden anymore and they do it with a straight face.
Wrong is right, right is wrong, the whole thing is so upside down and inside out it's impossible to keep your moral grounding no matter how you were raised.
Speaking of the media, they are being awful quiet this morning about the church shootings.
Busy trying to figure out how to cover up Sudden-anti-Christian-syndrome?
at December 10, 2007 6:23 AM
"Who wants to elect a pig in a poke to the highest office in the land?
Posted by: Aunt Bea "
......dhimmicrats....
at December 10, 2007 7:27 AM
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