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December 11, 2007

Aussie mum, convert to Islam, misunderstands her new religion, calls her family "soldiers of Osama bin Laden"

Yet another convert to Islam misunderstands her new religion as having something to do with violence and supremacism. Seriously, Ibrahim Hooper, why not start a program for converts, to make sure they don't keep making this same mistake? After all, if Islam is a religion of peace as you insist, then it is strange that so many converts misunderstand it so thoroughly, isn't it? Time to reevaluate the catechesis, eh, old man?

"Aussie mum 'Osama bin Laden soldier,'" by Richard Kerbaj and Cameron Stewart for The Australian (thanks to all who sent this in):

A MELBOURNE mother is being investigated by police over her links to Somali jihadis and accusations she supports Islamic martyrdom.

The Muslim convert, a friend of Sydney's militant Islamic matriarch Rabiyah Hutchinson, is also alleged to have declared herself and her family "soldiers of Osama bin Laden", who act on his orders.

The allegations are contained in an official statement given to the Australian Federal Police in relation to its investigation into Somali community figures suspected of encouraging dozens of young men to return to their homeland and join Islamic jihad.

The statement accuses another Australian convert, Aisha Whitehead, of encouraging her Somali-born Australian husband Ahmed Ali to fight alongside terrorists in his war-torn homeland.

The mother, who introduced Ms Whitehead to Mr Ali, allegedly told a small gathering of Muslim women in Melbourne that she supported Islamic jihad and was a follower of the hardline Wahabi form of Islam.

"We are Wahabi," the mother is quoted as saying in the sworn statement seen by The Australian and given by a Somali community member to the AFP in August. Asked at the gathering whether it was bad to be a Wahabi, she replied: "No, we are soldiers of Osama bin Laden. We take orders from him. If he tells us to go somewhere, we go."

The mother rejected the claims against her and denied she was an extremist or an advocate for terrorism.

"The allegations are absolutely untrue and without basis," she said.

Of course: she's not a terrorist. She's a jihadist.

Posted by Robert at December 11, 2007 5:36 PM
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Aisha and Ahmed fall in love in the Land of Oz. Sounds like a black comedy in technicolor.

Ugh.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 5:50 PM

Keep 'em coming, Robert. I always imagine Honest Ibe squirming and hiding under his prayer rug when Robert lets his sarcasm loose. You know the Monty Python sketch about the Piranha Brothers, "he used sarcasm ...."

Posted by: anti-uffe [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 5:51 PM

Given that there is no Islamic pope, who can say definitively whether a committed fighter in the way of Allah is an irhabist or a jihadist--the real point is that religious warfare is not a thing of the past for these people.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 5:52 PM

A mutha:
...we are soldiers of Osama bin Laden.

As a "soldier" of civilization, would it be too politically incorrect to ask why this psychotic breader is still sharing our air? I don't feel at all compelled to "understand" her.

...another Australian convert, Aisha Whitehead..

Ahhh, taking the name of the sweet, young, oh, so young wife of the original goat rapist. How sweet.

Posted by: RalphInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 6:01 PM

What a pathetic woman.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 6:32 PM

OT, Academia Alert:

People, I am very sorry to report that the brainwashed and biased Mohammedan Columnist "Shirien Elamawy" will be returning to the "LSU Reveille" school newspaper next semester:

http://www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2007/12/07/Opinion/Opinion.Staff.Plans.Big.Things.For.Next.Semester-3141326.shtml

A travesty.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 6:41 PM

Previewing your Comment
By asserting loyalty to OBL, isn't she by definition an enemy of the state and a terrorist?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Australia at war with Al Qaeda also? I would think that just by her declaration she could be "captured" and tried as an enemy combatant.

A bit OT (but somewhat related), can someone explain to me what the end game for these guys is? It seems to me, that if they either convert, dhimmify or kill all non-muslims, they will 1) have an awful lot of bodies to dispose of, and

2) the entire world economy will collapse and they won't have anyone to buy their oil or send them foreign aid. Therfore not only will the "developed" countries turn into muslim shitholes, but the current muslim shithole countires that are being suported by the infidel west will have even less food, much less ammo.

3) If they destroy Israel and the paleostinians take over all of palistine, where's the food, water, electricity etc. going to come from?

Have they really thought this through?

Posted by: walterc [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 6:42 PM

"Shirien Elamawy is making her return to the opinion pages, prepared to give our campus another perspective on the religion of Islam as well as the United States' policies in the Middle East - how they effect the Muslim world and how they effect us as Americans." --copied from link above ("LSU Reveille")

She. is. Rotten. As bad as Nasseem.

This is happening on our University campuses.

I hope JW's will comment.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 6:45 PM

Well, look at the bright side: She's encouraging Muslims to leave Australia to go to Somalia; where they can be whacked, I might add.
Her name's Aisha, so what do you expect from a nine year old?

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 6:56 PM

"Time to reevaluate the catechesis..."
-- from Robert's comments in the article above

Are you conducting Da'wa (Christian version) right here, asking Ibrahim (ne Douglas) Hooper to give up the whole dismal business, and revert -- give me those old-time reverters -- to the Catholic Church from which, I now gather, he may have come?

Or was I endowing the word "catechesis" with an incorrect meaning?

Was I, in other words, guilty of catachesis catechresis?

For god's sake, I had to do it. For when would such an opportunity ever come again?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:08 PM

Hugh - you are obviously a man who knows no shame.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:16 PM

I'm a staunch free-speech advocate, but these statements smack of sedition if not treason. Based on the statements alone, the woman ought to be tried, convicted and incarcerated.

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:28 PM

"Have they really thought this through?"
-- WalterC

No.

Posted by: Monte Gardner [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:48 PM

Another classic case of really bad parenting. I can hear it now. "Mommy, can I go to the Park and blow myself up".

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:51 PM

catachesis catechresis for jesus?

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:52 PM

Stupid, stupid girls. Where are those folks who specialise in 'cult deprogramming', when we really need them?

waiterc - I think you are right.

Suppose - heaven forbid!- they get what they want, Total World Domination. Immediately, their Lords of Misrule will embark upon a gluttonous orgy to devour the accumulated human and biological wealth of the planet, accompanied by multiple acts of mass murder and pointless vandalism; along with this, they will indulge in all-out fratricidal wars between, for example, Sunni and Shi'a (with nuclear weapons?), not to mention the fratricidal and murderous in-house goings-on over who gets to be top of various Muslim heaps, who gets to succeed to whom, and so on (take a look at the history of the Ottoman Empire, the Umayyids, and other Muslim dynasties - normally, one gained a throne by murdering the previous incumbent).

Islam CANNOT refrain from messing its own nest. It's avoided the consequences, so far, by bludging off, or robbing, its more prudent and productive neighbours.

But if it conquers the planet, there will be no-one left to rob, and no-one, after a while (all dhimmi populations decreased catastrophically, over time) to produce stuff, fix things, or maintain the resource base.

Muslim rulers NEVER understood that to prosper in the long term one must refrain from killing or disheartening too many of one's tax payers, and that continual warfare, vandalism, robbery, treachery and gross over-exploitation of the natural environment without putting anything back in, is a dead end route. The Muslim slave trade in Africa is a case in point - what sensible businessperson, really, would kill off 90% of his merchandise before it even got to market? That one example tells me that lurking at the very core of Islam is a mad imperative to destroy, destroy, destroy, for the sake of destruction.

If they gain Total World Domination, they will destroy...everything, forever.

The destruction of the Twin Towers - a mass immolation of human beings, a blatant act of vandalistic envy (I won't let you have anything taller than a mosque!) - told us everything we need to know about Islam.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 7:55 PM

I think you're all missing the real meaning here. Aisha has been beaten up too many times by Ahmed and wants to be rid of him. She knows that if she goes to an Aussie court for divorce he'll probably kill her for dishonoring him. If she kills him herself she's likely to be caught and imprisoned. So she shames him into going to fight as a jihadist in Somalia, where he'll likely be bumped off by a jihadist of another faction. Voila! She's rid of Ahmed with no muss, no fuss, no rough stuff.
I say good for her. All the Aussie (and other Western) women who've been stupid enough to marry Moslem immigrants should encourage their hubbies to go back to the Old Country to fight in the jihad.

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 8:22 PM

Dumbledoresarmy wrote, "Islam CANNOT refrain from messing its own nest." Exactly right. I believe I appreciate irony as much as the next person and a notable irony in man's history is the capacity of Islam over and over again to do itself in by just being itself. In this one particular and very specific respect, I say, go Islam.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 8:23 PM

i truly miss the dhimmi beast gibbons cow from being in the headlines. the world is a lonely place with her not on the front pages.

Why gibbons? why?


Please convert, please, it would make my month!

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 9:01 PM

Our Melbourne mom from down under proves (once and for all) what the non-Muslim world has known for well-nigh fourteen centuries:

ISLAM EQUALS TERRORISM.

Egad--the world, in a mere sixty or so years, has gone from 'my father was a fullback' to my mom was a quarterback for bin Looney tunes!

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 9:44 PM

Back in the '60s & '70s, if someone wanted a taste of the exotic, they would join one of the many eastern mystical groups. What have we got these days, Osama's Army instead of the Hare Krishnas?

Oh for the good old days.

Posted by: Ozi_bloke [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 10:04 PM

"No, we are soldiers of Osama bin Laden. We take orders from him. If he tells us to go somewhere, we go."

ie, we are brainwashed zombies who murder for allah, not terrorists.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 10:12 PM

Sounds like Islam's answer to Ma Barker. Maybe she and her sons will meet the same fate as the real Ma Barker.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 10:45 PM

“Bezness”- European Women, Victims of Arab Lover Boyz

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/12/11/bezness-european-women-victims-of-arab-lover-boyz/



Maldives: non-Muslims to lose citizenship


http://sheikyermami.com/2007/12/11/maldives-non-muslims-to-lose-citizenship/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 10:47 PM

"We are Wahabi"

Does anyone remember when Ibrahim Hooper appeared on C-SPAN's Washington Journal (more than a year ago) and he said something very close to: "I don't know anyone who would call themselves wahabi"? I am reminded of his dissembling every time a Muslim refers to himself/herself as wahabi.

If anyone has the transcript, please post.

Posted by: Mary [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 11, 2007 11:34 PM

What she meant to say was "I am a wallaby." The poor woman is delusional; she thinks she's a kangaroo.

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 12:46 AM

"Have they really thought this through?"
-- WalterC

"Allah" knows best, no thinking required.

Posted by: Dsinc [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 12:54 AM

Converts are amazing to me. Muslims born into Islam already have the hook, line, and sinker imbedded into their being. But converts don't until they do Shahada. Then something strange happens to their minds. This experience can't be shared with muslims born into Islam. It is unique to converts. It has something to do with submission and renouncing yourself for Allah, but why it takes a similar form in many converts, is what is interesting. A similar and familiar pattern emerges. Total emmersion,
loss of good judgment, accelerated tendency to violence, loss of critical thinking, loss of thinking, and a willingness to act. Including angry verbal justifications for the above.
This has got to be destroying brain cells. I know it destroys some of mine, I can feel a few going just thinking about it. Maybe thats it. If just thinking about shahada destroys some brain cells, then actually doing shahada must destroy many. And doing it three times in a row must be a brain killer.
Like that other guy said...now you know the rest of the story...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 2:37 AM

"The Muslim convert, a friend of Sydney's militant Islamic matriarch Rabiyah Hutchinson, is also alleged to have declared herself and her family "soldiers of Osama bin Laden", who act on his orders."


....maybe the immigration officials will sit up and take note...She did not declare she was pleased to be in Australia, nor did she declare she wanted to be a hardworking, honest, law abiding citizen of Australia, nor did she say she was pleased to live among the noble citizens of Australia who are NonMuslims..she did declare to be the soldier of the terrorist Osama bin Ladens.....the same Osama bin Laden who directs the Muslim tribesmen that Australian troops are combatting in southern Afghanistan.....

most recently:

"Private Luke Worsley, of the 4th Battalion RAR, was serving with the Special Operations Task Group when he was killed during a battle with the Taliban at a bomb-making compound in Oruzgan Province on November 23."


....yep the the same Taliban that often receives direct orders from Osama bin Laden....and yep, the bombs being made are the same ones being used to kill Christians, school children, bicycle ice cream vendors, music shop owners, journalists, lawyers, policemen, ambulance drivers, miners, travelers, politicians, and of couse coalition forces , including Austrailians...


...This women and her entire family should be treated as enemy combatants....


and the Australian government should ban Muslim Immigration...


Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 6:48 AM

Sheik Żer'Mami
Thanks for Link-reckon this is just tip of iceberg
as to what is going on in all Western Countries,Europe, U.K,U.S,Canada,Australia.
Everyone is muzzled by idiotic PC laws-their governments too afraid of Muslims to hold a proper
investigation into Muslim Grooming of vunerable
Infidel Girls very young[we know Mo was a paedophile] and the fleecing & subjugation of older Infidel women.
BBC did a short article on young girls being groomed & pack raped by 'older males'no mention
they were MUSLIMS although everyone knew who perpetrators were. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot
of English girls are being trafficked to Saudi Arabia & M.E. Police admit that Albanian gangs now control most of Prostitution in U.K-in fact
Albanian Crims have been brazenly operating on Tony Blair's street where his exclusive new residence is...You can see how grateful they are
to Bush & his Poodle for giving them Kosovo.
Surprise then that Tony & his luverly missus are
getting special reinforced bombproof doors & windows at the Taxpayers' expense.
Bet the news that a Christian General in Lebanon
has been blown up by a bomb will give Tony some
sleepless nights.

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 7:10 AM

Dad Allegedly Kills Girl Over Head Scarf
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/dad-allegedly-kills-girl-over-head-scarf/20071211165009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Posted by: ElizaDoolittle [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 1:08 PM

ebonystone: show me a wallaby carries an uzi and I'll show you the wizard of oz!

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 1:50 PM

Pythagoras, nice idea. If the CIA's squirrels are worrying the Iranians, think of the havoc the
Ozzies could wreak by sending in some Uzi-toting wallabies.

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2007 5:12 PM
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