I didn't realize the hijab was not exclusive to a specific group that shall remain nameless.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 12, 2007 10:53 AM

He murdered his own little girl.
Over a damned head scarf.
Think they won't murder you?
Islam is not compatible with the West.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at December 12, 2007 10:57 AM

"domestic violence....that cuts across Canadian society........"

If you believe that, I have for sale:
1 Brooklyn bridge or,
1 mountain in Florida or,

some ocean front property in Arizona

Posted by: n.a. palm at December 12, 2007 11:03 AM

Honor killings are conscious acts of cruel barbarism committed by beasts with no souls, in the name of one religion, for the pleasure of one god.

As a former homicide/violent crimes investigator, I can tell you, as if you need to be told, that honor killings and domestic violence episodes are your basic apples/oranges comparison.

Those who commit honor killings should be bound alive to the carcasses of swine, to be eaten to death by the maggots.

Posted by: undaunted at December 12, 2007 11:06 AM

Are a lot of regular Canadians strangling their daughters lately?

Or is it just the one's who pervert the language and insult all morality with their concept of "honor" killing?

I think the only thing that'll be "cutting across Canadian society" (and their throats) in the future will the the sword of Islam.

Once they've blindly filled up their once-peaceful land with these violent "refugees" and "asylum seekers" and "guest workers", where will the Canadians then seek refuge?

Posted by: profitsbeard at December 12, 2007 11:12 AM

"There should be zero tolerance for violence of any kind against women or girls," said Shahina Siddiqui, the president of the Islamic Social Services Association.
"The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to colour or creed."

Ah, good old "domestic violence", which does indeed cut across society. But the subset of domestic violence that is honour killing is pretty much limited to Islamic countries or communities, and it's pretty much only in these countries that "honour" is regarded as a justification for murder. Thus in a Western country under the rule law, the common or garden variety wife-killer serves 20 years to life in the slammer, while in an Islamic country under Sharia the honour-killer gets 6 months or so, and on his release is regarded as a hero.

Posted by: ebonystone at December 12, 2007 11:18 AM

Pretty good spin, but here are some helpful suggestions

"There should be zero tolerance for violence of any kind against women or girls," said Shahina Siddiqui, the president of the Islamic Social Services Association.

How about "We have zero tolerance"...

"The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to colour or creed."

How about "The murder of Aqsa was the result of zealous rage which we condemn in our peaceful religion and against which we commit to exposing and eliminating from our communities."

"We call for the strongest possible prosecution of Ms. Parvez's alleged attacker," said Faisal Kutty, the legal counsel for the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations.

How about "...Aqsa's murderer"

Depersonalizing the victim and downplaying the magnitude of the crime just isn't working here, to me.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at December 12, 2007 11:25 AM

HOW SICK AND WARPED IS THAT!!!

It is unfathomable that such inhuman behavior still exists in this primitive,pagonistic,politically motivated so-called religion.

Posted by: Mackie at December 12, 2007 11:30 AM

There was a similar spin put out by Ms. Anisa Ali this morning on CTV: "Honor killings" are culturally-linked, not religiously motivated. She very helpfully pointed out how there are also honor killings in Germany and Britain. Yes, quite a tradition of honor killings in those two countries and now in Canada. Cultural, to be sure!

Posted by: Chatillon at December 12, 2007 11:46 AM

bloody cynical

"The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to colour or creed."

blind to creed and colour?

NO THIS WAS AN ISLAMIC HATE CRIME TOWARDS A YOUNG WOMAN WHO WANTED FREEDOM!

Where is the outrage from the muslim community? the one united Ummah?

these "people" are not united, they are not one collective peaceful people. look how they treat their brethren in algeria.
this poor girl wanted to not dress like how her father told her to. a normal child, yet her sick father, under orders from the "ummah" told him to kill her.

these "people" make me sick. I'm over listening to their lies and violent hatred towards westernism.

GET OUT OF MY LAND!

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 12, 2007 11:46 AM

"The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to colour or creed."

Domestic violence huh? It is merely coincidental that there always seems to be a Muhammad involved somewhere.

Jizya extraction is also commonly known as "petty larceny", religious persecution is really just "bullying", and jihad is no different than vigilanteism.

Sure.

Posted by: awake at December 12, 2007 11:52 AM

And of course the fear reverberates among thousands of other Canadian daughters and wives. Women are the 'niggers' of Islam and it just takes an occasional lynching to keep them in line. Where are the feminists and 'progressives' to champion those frightened women, to protect them and encourage them?

Posted by: poetcomic1 at December 12, 2007 11:53 AM

"The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to color or creed."

Hhhmmmm....... that's "funny," ( in a graveyard humor sort of way ) my seat-of-the-pants statistical analysis suggests that far from being a problem that "cuts across Canadian society" this business of honor killing is unique the the ULTRA-VIOLENT MAHOMETAN CULTIST THUGS.

Posted by: One_of_the_last_few_Patriots_left at December 12, 2007 11:53 AM

This is classic:

"I don't want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue," said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. "It is a teenager issue."

A teenager issue?...The emperor truly has no clothes...

Posted by: dobie315 at December 12, 2007 11:54 AM

This sick bastard murdered his own daughter over wearing a freaking head scarf. And we're supposed to believe that islam is a religion of peace?

Posted by: livefreeordie! at December 12, 2007 12:08 PM

"There should be zero tolerance for violence of any kind against women or girls," said Shahina Siddiqui, the president of the Islamic Social Services Association."

I agree,There should be zero tolerance for violence of any kind against women or girls. That's why Islam should be outlawed in Western countries.

Posted by: rational at December 12, 2007 12:12 PM

This occured only a few miles from where I work. There is a large muslim community here they have about 11 mosques. The politicians here are working very hard (and so are the newspapers where this girls picture is plastered all over the place) to make SURE we the canadian populace dont DARE think the father killed her because of some islamic rule. no no dear no. You see it was an accident. He was trying to give her an islamic 'hug' but it didnt work out. Excuse my sarcasm but this stuff is happening in my own town and Im so damn sick of it. This story got alot of coverage because she was so young. Do you know how many 20 something girls are killed by father or brothers here because of honor killings but are merely presented as regular murders? oy vey.

You'll remember this is happening in the city (Toronto) where 17 muslims mostly young some born and raised here! where planning to blow up several key places in the city as a 'jihad' but were intercepted by undercover RCMP (the mounties) when they tried purchasing a LARGE amount of fertilizer from the undercover cops. Nice huh? Can you feel the love? I guess all the universal health care system the rest of us are paying for as well as countless social and welfare programs Canadians are forced to pay into werent GOOD ENOUGH for them. We offended them. Excuse my eye in your fist eh. Sorry for breathing and being an infidel.
Im so bloddy sick of it. GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY IF YOU HATE IT!
keep pushing the 'nice' Canadians and see what happens.

Remember Vimy.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at December 12, 2007 12:18 PM

forgot to add my link of the great Winston.

Im afraid the way things are going we will need another of him ....soon

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at December 12, 2007 12:22 PM

Muslim leaders cautioned against jumping to conclusions.

"I don't want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue," said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. "It is a teenager issue."

Right. Who hasn't dealt with a recalcitrant teenager? Out past curfew, drinking, tattoos, jeans hanging lower than underwear, etc. Maybe a neighbor told him to take matters into his own hands. He took it a bit too literally.

Mark Steyn, rev up the typewriter!!!

Posted by: HeadlessChickens at December 12, 2007 12:22 PM

THE ALLIES SHALL WIN -

Sorry, but I don't understand the reference to 'Vimy'. (Yank, you know?)

Posted by: Havoc at December 12, 2007 12:36 PM

The only free loving person in this story is the dead 16-year old Aqsa.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at December 12, 2007 1:02 PM

Havoc,

If you were asking me, I don't know what Vimy is. I am not so familiar with Canadian politics as my friends up north.

The point that I noticed was:
"We call for the strongest possible prosecution of Ms. Parvez's alleged attacker," said Faisal Kutty, the legal counsel for the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Are they as radical as the USA CAIR? I know that Canadians prefer the term "North America", referring to the continent.

Posted by: CTYankee at December 12, 2007 1:02 PM

Havoc

Vimy Ridge - Copied from the web

The attack at Vimy Ridge which was undertaken by the Canadian Corps (of the First Army) on Easter Monday, the 9th of April, 1917, is often seen as the first unequivocal success gained by the British (in this case Canadian) forces during the course of trench warfare. The Battle of Messines two months later sometimes takes this accolade, but this is a somewhat unfair reflection on the achievements at Vimy. The Germans had held the heights at Vimy Ridge since the trench lines settled in late 1914, and the French (who then held this part of the line) had failed in attempts to take it in May and September of 1915. The sector was taken over by the British early in 1916.

Posted by: Fred at December 12, 2007 1:06 PM

Lets just be honest: She was lynched by her family, and by the muslim community at large. They don't admit there is a problem, because deep down they like it this way. These little teenage girls need to know their place. They need to be slaves of Mohammad, and sell their bodies to a good muslim male masters to produce more little muslims.

This is what they want for us as well.....to live like this. To enslave ourselves to this dead prophet.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at December 12, 2007 1:15 PM

Jeez!!!

Domestic violence does not usually entail brothers setting up their sisters to be killed by the father, at least not that I'm aware of. The brother was charged with obstruction.

Canadians are outraged about this, and the majority knows that it was the Islamic religion that caused this no matter what spin the media tries to put on it.

Either adhere to our law, or leave, your choice. No one is making you live in a country that doesn't have Sharia law.

Very simple.

Posted by: gymgal at December 12, 2007 1:16 PM

Cuts across Canadian society? I suppose, then, that we should expect any day now that some Catholic girl will be killed by her father for not wearing a crucifix. It's absolutely stunning, mind numbing in fact, too see all the metaphorical pretzels Muslims and their dhimmi lackeys twist themselves into in order not to lay the blame squarely where it belongs, on Islam itself. What's good about this, though, is that as each month and year passes by, more and more people worldwide are beginning to see Islam for what it really is-------the one world religion that is deeply sick and pathological throughout.

Posted by: Wellington at December 12, 2007 1:32 PM

Still no mention of this sad story on the BBC's website (for those who aren't familiar with the site, they have an Americas section)... why I am I not surprised that they aren't covering it?

Can you imagine if a strict Christian killed his daughter because, say, she had an abortion? The worldwide media would be all OVER this story, and rightly so. I saw that an earlier poster here said that many young women, in their 20s, previously have been killed in "honor killings" in the Toronto area; is that true, and if so, what has the media coverage (if any) been like?

Posted by: kaffirchick at December 12, 2007 1:59 PM

Still no mention of this sad story on the BBC's website (for those who aren't familiar with the site, they have an Americas section)... why I am I not surprised that they aren't covering it?

Can you imagine if a strict Christian killed his daughter because, say, she had an abortion? The worldwide media would be all OVER this story, and rightly so. I saw that an earlier poster here said that many young women, in their 20s, previously have been killed in "honor killings" in the Toronto area; is that true, and if so, what has the media coverage (if any) been like?

Posted by: kaffirchick at December 12, 2007 2:00 PM

Papa really screwed up on this one. With a little thought, he could have come up with a better plan, to wit: take Aqsa back to the Old Country for a visit, and then come back to Canada without her, after marrying her off to cousin Ahmed, who would lock up her passport and sequester her in the women's quarters. After ten years or so, she would be so beaten into submission (and doesn't Islam mean "submission"?) that it would be safe for her to return to Canada with hubby and their 5 or 6 little ones in tow, for a happy reunion with the family and a life on the Canadian dole.

Posted by: ebonystone at December 12, 2007 2:05 PM

THE ALLIES SHALL WIN, I feel your pain. They will continue pushing and one day the sleeping giant will awaken. This is all we have to hope for.

Posted by: Bonniea at December 12, 2007 2:13 PM

To call this swine a Barbarian, is to insult the Gauls and the Huns. Calling him a swine is an insult to pigdom. In my limited knowlege of Western history, I do not know of any tradition amongst these tribes, these pagans of murdering their own children for such an "offense." This is a "religion" that sprang forth from an oportunist, a charlatan bent on his own eternal aggrandizement who bamboozeled a pack of thieves and murders into following him for a share of the spoils... ENOUGH, ENOUGH of these animals! Drive them back to Sewers from whence they came! YOU DON'T SEE CANADIANS STRANGLING THEIR DAUGHTERS AS A FORM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN!!!!

Posted by: VAF158 at December 12, 2007 2:25 PM

The only aspect of this that approaches the tragedy of the life lost is the cowardice displayed afterward. They haven't the guts to stand up and say why this occured. They can't even cling to their concocted faith to justify these abhorrent and most un-Godly acts. Instead they broadly potray it as pan-societal rather than SPECIFIC TO THE ISLAMIC CULT. Inside their mosques they will pat each other on the backs for the "honor killing" but publicly proclaim it as nothing but a societal aberration or a function of having teenagers.

Pathetic cowards, all of them. And their accomplices and abiders in the media and government.

When will the West push back?

Posted by: HeadlessChickens at December 12, 2007 2:45 PM

R.I.P. AQSA.
Aqsa was born at the right time, right place , but in the wrong religion/culture.
Islam is a strict rules for males but it is a psychological and physical prison for females, specailly beautiful outgoing females. She only wanted to break out of this prison to experiance life but the prison guards(family) made sure she will never see anything again. I hope the father and brother be jailed for life, (minimum).

Posted by: desidude at December 12, 2007 3:47 PM

this dude was an an uneducated taxi driver. he learned this act from koran and hadith ie mohammed's deeds. let everybody understand - problem is islam, koran, hadith and mohammed.
ban muslim immigration for once and all.

Posted by: swimmer at December 12, 2007 3:57 PM

I read this full article earlier this morning. It wasn't quite as bad, I thought, as it at least challenges the fact that this is a problem that needs to be addressed. Of course, he ignores the whole thing about Islamic supremacy, but hell, it's a start.

At the bottom of the article (I subscribe to the National Post) the guy named Fatah I think has a book coming out about Failed States Under Islam, with a title to that extent, and the other dude has one coming up Women and Repression under Islam. Not bad, as they don't completely ignore that the barns on fire. They just don't go the full 100 yards of the field, is all.

Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth at December 12, 2007 4:04 PM

"There should be zero tolerance for violence of any kind against women or girls," said Shahina Siddiqui, the president of the Islamic Social Services Association.

Oh, to be a reporter and offer a follow up question to Shahina Siddiqui. Does her statement mean that the infamous Koran verse (4:34) instructing men to beat/scourge their disobedient wives is not to be considered applicable for all time?

Posted by: CJ at December 12, 2007 4:13 PM

Islam is an evil ideology that both attracts evil people and makes people evil.

There is no getting around it. It was created by sadists for sadists - and its main thrust is to enslave the entire world under its evil, anti-human and woman-hating doctrines. In this way, its evil, sadistic leaders can set themselves up to exploit and murder whomever they wish, in order to satisfy their sadism.

Sadistic men are attracted to Islam because it allows them to abuse women in a manner that fulfills their sickness and evil minds.

Hiding all this evil sadism behind God and calling it something "holy" is precisely what we would expect from demented and evil people who were trying to prey on innocents.

Now, it is time for ALL the rank-and-file Muslims to wake up to these facts, that their own cultures and ancestors have been enslaved by these evil demons with their evil ideology they dare to call "religion" and to GET OUT OF ISLAM. By staying in the CULT OF DEATH, they are encouraging these evil sadists whose ancestors murdered and enslaved their ancestors and who wish to enslave the rest of them. If these "moderate Muslims" continue to stay in this evil cult, THEY will be responsible for the downfall of human civilization at the hands of these demonic Muslim leaders. Period. Without the numbers of moderate Muslims - and their wanton reproduction - these evil demons will NOT have power. Again, GET OUT OF ISLAM NOW!

The Truth About Islam

Posted by: Suziq at December 12, 2007 4:48 PM

Gentlemen,

I have been reading this site for quite some time but have not taken part in discussions, but felt I could be of help to clarify something that is escaping the knowledge of quite many people.

Honour killings seem to be getting more and more common in the West with the increase in the Muslim population.

Is this a cultural thing or religious (i.e. Islamic)?.

The way I see it is that if a woman of a Muslim family deviates from the standards set by the family, in Aqsa's case, live style and dress code, it would be seen as apostacy and thereby punishable by death.

See Qura'an 004:089 that says if anyone wants to leave Islam (turns renegade) he is to be put to death. Also look at 009:013-014. There are said to be about 12 other passages in the Qura'an that touch on this subject.

But by qura'anic definition most of us know that any Muslim that moves to the West to live among the Kufr is a hypocrite and not a real Muslim.

I think an earlier poster on this thread is right when he said the final order came from the ,,Ummah" but the Iman of the local Mosque is the director of operations, according to Oriana Fallaci's book ,,The Rage and the Pride." He also should be arrested and charged for his part in the crime, but of course nothing can be proved as usual.

Posted by: jonas at December 12, 2007 5:01 PM

oh, one more thing.

Death toll of terrorists from waterboarding - 0

Death toll of innocent teenage girls from Hijab shedding - 1+

Posted by: HeadlessChickens at December 12, 2007 5:10 PM

Which Canadian here will be brave enough to make a poster with Aqsa's face on it, and a suitable slogan - e.g. "SHARIA LAW KILLS WOMEN. NO TO SHARIA!!"? Then plaster it up all over the place - e.g. bus stops, public toilets, all the usual sort of places where one sees ads for bands and so on.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 12, 2007 5:15 PM

Watch this video and flag it as violent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw88h8qOthA&eurl=http://islamwatchers.blogspot.com/

Posted by: interestinconundrum at December 12, 2007 5:19 PM

From the article:

The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to colour or creed.

So fathers strangling daughters with their bare hands for not wearing a hijab is a problem that cuts across Canadian society? It sounds similar to the Broad Strata of Society that attacked us on 9/11.

Posted by: special_guest at December 12, 2007 5:21 PM

Had she accepted her 'father's' demand that she start donning a hijab, that digital camera she's carrying above would have been pretty worthless - at least from the POV of those who wanted her pics.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at December 12, 2007 5:40 PM

Just found this, merry festivus from the aclu
http://www.passionateamerica.com/pictures/ACLU_nativity_02.jpg

Posted by: interestinconundrum at December 12, 2007 5:44 PM

Interest - thanks for giving me a grin on this very sad thread. A happy Festivus to you, Sir!

Posted by: MP at December 12, 2007 5:58 PM

What a sad, sad story. I did a search for her on Myspace and found her private page, if anyone is interested.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=90562867

Posted by: Krabcakes at December 12, 2007 6:18 PM

A comparison:

Tracy Latimer was born November 23, 1980, with severe cerebral palsy. As a result, Tracy was quadriplegic and bedridden much of the time, suffered five to six seizures daily, and was said to have the mental capacity of a three to four month old baby. It was generally acknowledged that she constantly suffered a great deal of pain. Tracy died in October 1993.

On October 24, 1993, when confronted by police with autopsy evidence that high levels of carbon monoxide were found in Tracy's blood, her father, Robert Latimer confessed that he had killed her by placing her in his truck and connecting a hose from the truck's exhaust pipe to the cab.

Robert Latimer said his actions were motivated by love for Tracy and a desire to end her pain. He described the medical treatments Tracy had undergone and was scheduled to undergo as "mutilation and torture". Latimer was convicted of second degree murder in 1994, and sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum term of ten years.

On December 5, 2007 Robert Latimer requested day parole from the national parole board. The parole board denied his request,despite psychological and parole reports that said he was a low risk to reoffend. He will be eligible for full parole in December, 2010.The vast majority of Canadians believe Latimer acted out of compassion and that he should be freed. (Source:Wikipedia)

Compare this to the strangulation murder in Mississauga, of a healthy, vibrant young woman, by her aptly named father, Muhammed.

It will be interesting to see how the Canadian court system deals with him.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at December 12, 2007 6:35 PM

Someone sent me an email attachment, a wmv file, explicitly showing a girl getting kicked to death by a bunch of mentally retarded pig head Mohamdians. I think that happened a while back and someone was videoing it via his cell-phone. Islam, a religion of peace or religion of love, it is not.

Islam is a Religion for pathetic Morons.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at December 12, 2007 6:44 PM

Muslim scum who muder women over "honor" need to be drawn and quartered with only one horse riding away at a time.

Posted by: BornInTheUSA at December 12, 2007 6:47 PM

Suziq: You encourage so-called moderate Muslims to "GET OUT OF ISLAM NOW." I agree. The best thing any Muslim can do for his or her humanity is to leave Islam. There's really no reforming this religion unless one is prepared to ignore a whole heap of troubling stuff, including the fact that Mohammed was a psychopathic, extremely sexually indulgent, brutal control freak. And even if one does turn a blind eye to so much in Islam that is inimical to mankind as a whole, there's no guarantee that such a person's son or daughter, grandson or granddaughter, won't want to live Islam to its fullest----and when that happens, watch out.

In short, the blame for Islam's atrocities can no longer be placed only on the extremists, it must be placed on all Muslims. This little girl in Canada who lost her life because of her father's religious beliefs was, in a way, murdered by all those who think Mohammed's creed has any validity and thus call themselves Muslims. Therefore, shame on them all, though in no way should this collective guilt, which I think is wholly deserved and warranted, be ever used as an excuse to even minimally exculpate the father of this little girl. He is execrable and guilty in the extreme. A more disgusting person in Canada would be hard to find.

Posted by: Wellington at December 12, 2007 6:55 PM

Oh, you think islam will not last much longer? Not if the Pakistani's have their way.

They are doing the job that native Brit's won't do. Procreate.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=501285&in_page_id=1770

Posted by: Borg at December 12, 2007 7:34 PM

HAVOC--

I understand. You see for Canadians VIMY RIDGE was the most significant battle so far with men from all provinces not only fighting together for the first time but winning at great costs something the other allies couldnt do till then. Its the stuff of great heorism and legend for us Canadians. Its sort of like the Alamo for Texans.

Here is a short snippet from the wikipeidia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vimy_Ridge#Enduring_legacy

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VIMY RIDGE

Enduring legacy
The Battle of Vimy Ridge remains historically significant for Canada. It was the first time in the nation's history a corps-sized formation fought as a unit. The success of the attack which had resulted from detailed planning and a variety of innovative tactics, stood in stark contrast to what had happened at the Somme only months earlier, and sealed the reputation of the Canadians as among the finest troops on the Western Front.[20][unreliable source?] "In those few minutes I witnessed the birth of a nation" said Brigadier-General A.E. Ross afterwards.[21]

Troops at Vimy Ridge in 1917 by photographer Jack Turner.Some have suggested that Canadian unity was fostered—all nine provinces were represented in the order of battle of the Canadian Corps.[22] As Pierre Berton points out in his seminal work, Vimy, the taking of the ridge achieved legendary status very quickly, and with it the attendant myths.

Battle after battle, thousands died for gains measured in yards, the breakthrough had tremendous tactical significance: it relieved the city of Arras from the immediate threat of attack and proved that the front lines could be moved forward once again. In all the battles at Vimy Ridge in World War I, there was a staggering cost in dead and wounded on both sides. Across 16 kilometres of ridge, approximately 200,000 men perished: French, British, Canadian, and German. Considering that typically there were three wounded to every man killed, the total casualties at Vimy during the War can be estimated at 800,000.[23]

Four Victoria Crosses (VC) were awarded to members of the Canadian Corps for this battle: Private William Johnstone Milne (16 Bn CEF); Lance-Sergeant Ellis Welwood Sifton (18 Bn CEF); Private John George Pattison (50 Bn CEF); and Captain Thain Wendell MacDowell (38 Bn CEF).

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Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at December 12, 2007 7:46 PM

BONNIEA

Thank you ! - When my parents came from Europe (in their case Greece) they adopted this country as their home and I dont understand why immigrants who are muslim (as you know thats not a racial distinction) have a hard time doing that because they belong to the 'umma' or whatever its called. I have friends who are Arabs and Indians and a Turk in their background and everyone of them was with me in the Reserves and was willing to die for Canada. Here's the catch: all of them were NONmuslim though. Except for my Turkish friend (an exmuslim so disgusted with islam it drove him to agnosticsm after his family disowned him) we are Christians. I know of others who are atheists, buddhists, jewishm, etc. None of these Canadians have any problems being and loving Canada only some of the more conservative (ie those who adhere closely to the Quran/hadith) have a problem. I wonder why?

Canadians like our American brethern to the south have always been willing to give the new guy a fair shake but that assumes the new guy wants one! Muslim radical groups couldnt care less for the western nations as you know.

Anyway Ill be there to stand up in whatever way our free nations need us to do when the time comes as Im sure you all will when Canada and the USA and others need us. We are all in this together.

God bless America,
God Save the Queen,

And God have mercy on the Free World!

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at December 12, 2007 7:55 PM

All right, all right...calm down. Give him his 6 months...that's the world norm...let him serve his time. If that was his only daughter he's probably done killing. Well, maybe his wife. Move on. Nothing to see here. Happens all the time. Back to work...who's going to support all this if you don't work and pay taxes?

Posted by: Rick at December 12, 2007 8:04 PM

I think people should contact the Islamic Social Services Association of Canada via the contact link on their website and politely tell them why they are wrong for saying those things in the media.
They should just admit it's a problem with Islam instead of acting like it's another issue.

Posted by: The_Atheist at December 12, 2007 8:14 PM

What sicked me even more about this sad event were the comments on facebook. There are so many people trying to justify the actions of this monster.

"the biased media... we're not getting all the facts"

"Her father was right..."

Canada has become a place where legitimate criticism of Islam is not only not tolerated, but even dangerous. As an immigrant to Canada myself, I believe Canada should move to quickly and determinedly teach Canadian values to immigrants like they taught me when I first arrived.

Posted by: GFB at December 12, 2007 9:21 PM

GFB: To the extent that legitimate criticism of Islam is disallowed in Canada it is almost entirely the fault of modern liberalism, which has lost its collective mind. Wherever criticism of Islam is criticized other than by Muslims themselves, there's about a 99% chance that the modern leftist mind set is behind it. Shame not only on Muslims, but shame too on a Left which will destroy all of the West if we let it. Islam+modern liberalism=Western suicide.

Posted by: Wellington at December 12, 2007 9:43 PM

The people I've talked to about this case are shocked and sad about what happened to this girl. But there are still so many people that have a disconnect when it comes to what Islam is. The majority of people I know who defend Islam will admit to me at a later date that they have never read the Qu'ran. This is a case in point that shows just how effective the news media is at spreading propaganda that people will defend with all their might and only later realize that they really know nothing about the subject.

We've studied it here. We know the signs, know what to look for and can analyze and process these stories that keep coming. And the fact is that they keep coming and are still perpetrated by Muslims and not by Jews, Catholics, Chineses Communists, African Animasts, or little green Martians. Yet the Muslims are still defended fiercely.

I've been contemplating the idea that if a Muslim father can kill his daughter that he supposedly loves, because she disobeys him over something that appears to be quite trivial and more ego driven than anything else, then why is it so hard to believe that a Muslim could kill someone they hate? If loving Muslim fathers can justify killing their daughters in this way, then why is it so shocking that Muslims kill non-Muslims, infidels, apostates and the like? And where is the disconnect that prevents the non-Muslim apologists from putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with the right answer, that this is happening in the Muslim community because it is a Muslim belief, and not anywhere else because we don't believe in doing this?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at December 12, 2007 10:14 PM

"blind to colour or creed..."
- quoting a Muslim apologist in Canada, commenting on the killing, by her father, of Aqsa Pervez, for not wearing the hijab

True.

Every creed has its crazy fathers who kill their daughters for refusing to wear the hijab, forgetting for a moment that they no longer are living in a Muslim country and will actually be punished for committing this murder

Posted by: Hugh at December 12, 2007 10:17 PM

THE ALLIES SHALL WIN,

Thank you for your very interesting post about Vimy Ridge! We very much need to look at the heroism of the past, as our spineless imbecile dhimmi fool quisling politicians are quite literally importing disaster into our countries. Sad to say, we will have need of such heroism again.
Also, I have read that many Canadians don't like the USA. It is refreshing to read from a Canadian who understands the nature of the threat and knows that all of us who love freedom and the legacy of Western Civilization are in this together.
I note that you stated that your parents came from Greece to Canada. Well, my grandparents came from Poland to the USA and my parents, although born here, lived through WWII in Poland and returned to the US. It seems to me that many people whose families came from places where freedom was lost have a better understanding of the stakes in the global jihad.
The question I always ask myself is: are there enough Patriots like you left in the West so that we will prevail??

Posted by: One_of_the_last_few_Patriots_left at December 12, 2007 10:29 PM

Muslims believe that their honor resides in the bodies of their female kins. Muslim men are brought up in a culture that makes them responsible for the actions of their wives, daughters, mothers, female cousins, etc...to the extent of obsession. this culture is sick enough to make a mother or a father murder their daughter for any reason judged by them as offensive.
The question is this man representative of the muslims who live among us in the west? is this what the new generations of young men are being taught in our free societies? If these men are able to do this to an innocent relative imagine what can they do to us "infidels"?

Posted by: Ali moughanni at December 12, 2007 11:05 PM

Muslims believe that their honor resides in the bodies of their female kins. Muslim men are brought up in a culture that makes them responsible for the actions of their wives, daughters, mothers, female cousins, etc...to the extent of obsession. this culture is sick enough to make a mother or a father murder their daughter for any reason judged by them as offensive.
The question is this man representative of the muslims who live among us in the west? is this what the new generations of young men are being taught in our free societies? If these men are able to do this to an innocent relative imagine what can they do to us "infidels"?

Posted by: Ali moughanni at December 12, 2007 11:05 PM

"Where are the feminists and 'progressives' to champion those frightened women, to protect them and encourage them?"

Posted by: poetcomic1

poetcomic1,

I've dropped a few lines to NOW about other atrocities. In answer, they have invited me to help do away with "sexist auto insurance".

The lights are on, but nobody is home. No need to keep circling the block.

This is all so sick, and so sad. I wonder what made Aqsa think "honor killing" couldn't happen to her.

Posted by: Abscedere at December 12, 2007 11:34 PM

Honor and shame? Is that what they will feel if they are compelled to leave the United States and return to their countries of origin?

Sleeping giant, yes, but by the time it awakens our options will be a lot more limited. We need to start reversing the immigration process now.

Posted by: lycaste at December 12, 2007 11:50 PM

Young and old a like.

if it looks like a duck - its a duck...

this is just the first, probably not, just the one we know about, that will make Dhimmis (all of us stupid head in the sand westerners) out of North American muslim girls and women.

One killing at a time will allow muslim men to intimadate their shepard woman even in NA to be cowtowed.

Get used to it, the left wing women will not stand up for these persecuted women.

God help us all/
Winston

Posted by: winston at December 13, 2007 12:11 AM

I don't believe I have ever heard of a Western girl being killed by her father because he didn't like what she was wearing or not wearing. Sorry, the "domestic violence" excuse is pathetic, typical, islamic prevarication. Most domestic violence cases involve spousal abuse and children do sometimes get caught in the middle, usually when trying to defend their mother. There have been rare, very unusual cases in which children were killed by their mother or their father but not for reasons related to family honor. The islamic concept of family honor is an anomaly of immense magnitude.

Women are chattel in islam, private property. They are considered inferior to males in every way and their very existence threatens male devotion to allah because they are evil temptresses, inspired by Satan to lure pious males away from total submission to the demon god. A female human is one level above a camel only because muslim males cannot breed with camels. Women are a necessary evil required for copulation and childbearing, although muslim males aren't particular when it comes to copulation; most any animal will do.

It is beyond ironic that an inferior entity, a lowly female with no autonomy whatsoever, could possess the power to impact family honor. How paradoxical that an utterly impotent female, owned and controlled by males her entire life, becomes the omnipotent determiner of family honor. What it's really all about is male power, or the inability of a master to control his slave. If a man cannot control his slaves and animals, he is unworthy of respect. In the twisted islamic culture, killing the errant slave and celebrating her death is all it takes to become a well-respected member of the umma once again. A blood sacrifice works every time in islam, and what a small price to pay for the respect of your peers.

Posted by: Susanp at December 13, 2007 12:41 AM

So, since my stepson has holes punched in his ears (which he had done visiting his grandparents), a couple of earrings and wears a ton of black, and is over the age of 12, does that give me the right for an honor killing? Cuz, damn, there are days I don't think he'll make graduation. Oh, wait, scanning the teachings of Jesus, hmmmm...... Nope. Nothing. Cultural background check. hmmm....... Nope. Nothing there either. Coming from a Polish, German, French, English, Scottish, and Irish background, nothing about honor killings. Nothing more disgusting than hacks trying to compare islam to anything Western. Sure western nations have domestic disputes/violence that end in murder, but there is nothing in our culture or religions that allow for such barbarity.

OT. My stepson has decided to allow his holes to grow over and hopefully close up. He's actually gone down a size. His reason, a lot of kids at his school have been getting it done. Teens, go figure.

Posted by: Kevin at December 13, 2007 1:44 AM

I'm here fresh from CNN online where I found the following quote:

"I don't want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue," said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. "It is a teenager issue."

Oh no, not an Islamic issue at all. Lots of Non-muslim parents strangle their teenage girls to death for not covering up their hair.

Posted by: alexon at December 13, 2007 2:45 AM

" If loving Muslim fathers can justify killing their daughters in this way, then why is it so shocking that Muslims kill non-Muslims, infidels, apostates and the like?"""

...Islam...feel the love.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 13, 2007 7:14 AM

This poor girl lived just outside modern Toronto in the suburb of Mississauga. Mississauga is the "typical Canadian town" where Lynn Johnston's sweet comic strip "For Better of Worse" is set.

This widely-read strip mostly features gentle humor about marriage and family. It does occasionally deal with more difficult issues--Michael's childhood friend Lawrence realizes he is gay, and has to deal with it, Elizabeth's finds out her long-term college boyfriend is seeing another girl on the side, her old high-school sweetheart Anthony goes through a difficult divorce and winds up a single dad.

Still, I doubt that we'll see a story-line any time soon where daughter April has a high-school friend savagely murdered by her own father for resisting the hijab.

Posted by: gravenimage at December 13, 2007 8:36 AM

Gee , it only took 2 months befor CAIR did a U-Turn on the Hijab and now blames a murder on a Domestic problem that every faith suffers from because of the Violence against females .

Council's Proposed Hijab-ban Discriminates Against Quebec Women
Friday, October 05, 2007 12:13 pm

Suggestion runs contrary to women's interests

- For Immediate Release -

(Ottawa, Canada - October 5, 2007) The Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) today called the Quebec Council on the Status of Women's demand to ban the hijab in workplaces discriminatory against women. The Quebec Council is demanding that all public and para-public employees be forced to remove religious clothing, headwear or jewellery, including the Islamic hijab and Jewish yarmulkes.

Conversely, in the mid-90s, when high school students were being expelled for wearing the hijab, the Council supported women's right to wear the veil. Eventually the hijab-expulsions issue was decided by the Quebec Human Rights Commission, who ruled that Quebec schools could not stop students from wearing religious attire, including turbans, yarmulkes, crosses, and hijabs.

The hijab-ban, if implemented, besides curtailing right to religious practice, will leave Muslim women who choose to wear the head scarf unemployable in Quebec's public and para-public sectors.

"The proposed hijab-ban by the Quebec Council on the Status of Women clearly runs against the interests of women. If implemented, the ban will lead to institutionalized discrimination against Quebec's Muslim women by barring them from working in government sectors. This runs in direct contravention to the Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms which prohibits employment discrimination against women.

"Little more than 10 years ago the Council spoke out against expelling high school students wearing the hijab. The current proposed hijab-ban is a clear flip-flopped on the issue," said Shahina Siddiqui, CAIR-CAN Board Member.

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Contact: Shahina Siddiqui, CAIR-CAN Spokesperson, (204) 944-1560; or,
Sameer Zuberi, CAIR-CAN Communications Coordinator, (613) 795-2012 or (613)
254-9704.

**************************************************

This is the same female from CAIR that mitigated the Ottawa rape of a Muslim because the media reported the Sharia law link for the girl fearing she could never marry .

*** No Stigma for Rape Victims in Islam
Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:35 pm

- For Immediate Release -

(Ottawa, Canada - Sept 27, 2007) - The Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) and Islamic Social Services Association (ISSA) today said there should be no stigma attached to rape or sexual assault victims. Both Muslim groups also urged women to report every incident of sexual violence.

CAIR-CAN and ISSA are seeking to clarify the Islamic position on attitudes toward victims of sexual violence following a recent report that a Muslim university student who was sexually assaulted is concerned about a possible negative response from the community.

In a joint statement the two organizations said:

"Victims of any crime, and particularly the crime of sexual assault, must have the support of both the justice system and of the communities in which they live. Faith is a source of comfort, not a source of shame for the victims.

"There is no stigma associated with rape or sexual assault victims in Islam. The Quran clearly states that no person should be punished for the wrongdoing of another. If anything, a stigma should be linked to the perpetrator. Islam puts a positive duty on each and every individual in the community to fully support victims.

"Only a distorted cultural view would motivate someone to reject a victim of sexual assault. This callous attitude has absolutely no place in Islam."

Women's rights, often misunderstood, have been central to the teachings of authentic Islam for 14 centuries. Quranic verses (6:164), (17:15), and (53:38) state that no one should be punished for the crimes of another.

CAIR-CAN and ISSA are urging victims of sexual assault or domestic abuse to call ISSA at 1-866-239-ISSA. A booklet on how to help victims of sexual abuse is available by calling ISSA. Visit: http://www.issaservices.com

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CONTACT: Shahina Siddiqui, ISSA President, (204) 944-1560; or,
Sameer Zuberi, CAIR-CAN Communications Coordinator, (613) 254-9704 or (613)
795-2012.

Posted by: ala-sux at December 13, 2007 8:47 AM

What is ironic to me, is that her father didn't want her to be seen uncovered,

And now her totally NAKED, UNCOVERED HEAD is now being seen internationally!

I hope this makes him really pissed,

Posted by: Mo Foe at December 13, 2007 11:48 AM

That is, she's uncovered in the National Post story. Here, she's actually covered a bit.

Posted by: Mo Foe at December 13, 2007 11:51 AM

After watching the news coverage last night, local and national, I was pleased to see that the reporters didn't gloss over the Islamic thing.

All I can say is that at least by murdering her in Canada he will do jail time, as opposed to a slap on the back if he'd murdered her in an Islamic country.

Some of us here in Canada are FULLY aware of the politically correct mess we have gotten into and we are trying to change things. At least we have a conservative government now, instead of the silly namby pamby liberals ;o)

We're working on it....

Posted by: gymgal at December 13, 2007 12:28 PM

They blow up strangle and beat their own children to death and we are supposed to trust them?

Posted by: poetcomic1 at December 13, 2007 1:08 PM

A short comment on the CAIR-CAN posting above.

The subject of the message is ,,rape victims" which seems to be off-topic in order to deflect from the main subject of ,,honour killings."

The interesting thing about this CAIR-CAN message are the Qura'anic references from Sura 6, 17 and 53 which were written when Mohammed was in Mecca.

There are claims that all of the Mecca suras have been abrogated (see 002:106) by more intolerant Medina suras.

Anyways, the Iranian lapidates or stones the adulterous girls (girls that have been raped) or simply hang them.

Only a few days ago we saw in the world news what the Saudis did to a female rape victim. She got 6 months prison sentence and about 60 lashes, plus her lawyer was bereft of his license. Unfortunately for the girl her sentence was increased for resisting and fighting the injustice of the court.

The Qura'an is very clear about punishments for adultery, both of singles and married people.

Posted by: jonas at December 14, 2007 6:24 AM