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December 13, 2007

Welcome to the Sons of Apes and Pigs!

An intrepid group of Coptic Christians led by Ibn Misr is fighting back against the ongoing persecution Copts face from Muslims in Egypt, and the global jihad against non-Muslims in general. They have started the Sons of Apes and Pigs website, which takes its name from the Qur'anic designation for the People of the Book (i.e., primarily Jews and Christians) who incurred Allah's curse (5:59-60).

The site is factual, fearless, and politically incorrect. Give it a visit.

Posted by Robert at December 13, 2007 8:51 AM
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When the toxic Saudis own the mainstreammedia

and the socialist-islamic coalition owns education,

its good to see more sanity on the internet.

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 9:24 AM

Ibn Misr
If you are reading this I tried to comment on your blog but could find no registration section.
I also tried to send message but was directed to "page not found" ??

Posted by: USorThem [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 9:28 AM

Great blog, I added it to my favorites

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 9:40 AM

Great, Great, Great!

A hearty Welcome, "Sons of Apes and Pigs"!

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 9:46 AM

Sons of Apes and Pigs is the BOMB! Fearless is correct. The itemized list of how muslims break the commandments of God is hard-hitting and eye-opening. And it is because pc philosophy has replaced truth in the USA that all of us have not seen this from the start. (But it is doubtful that the democRATS ever will.)But this stuff is RIGHT ON!

I will be visiting this blog every day. Great job, SOAaP creators!

Posted by: angryeagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 9:59 AM

Thanks for the link, the site looks to be very interesting. In their Dec. 8th post they list a number of topics to be covered in the future . . .all interesting, particularly these two:

" . . .We'll prove exclusively from their most “holy books “that if prostitution had a religion, it would be Islam. We will give the world unequivocal proof that the Koran encourages Muslims to open whorehouses and legislate prostitution. You'll know the shocking truth that in Islam there is no marriage contract but 12 different sorts of "sexual act contract" and it is the only "religion" that promote sex a la carte .

We will bring you the true picture of the unprecedented uproar going on in the Arab Islamic world caused by the scandalous Islamic teachings that were hidden for more than 14 centuries by the Islamic authorities. These teachings are now exposed by our group of scholars that have destroyed the already legless foundation of Islam, and sent their greatest Imams and Sheiks running for cover.

Can't wait to read it all!

Posted by: justamomof4 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 10:06 AM

What a great site! Fearless for sure! I'm loving it.

Being bookmarked and eagerly read.

Thanks for the link!

Posted by: kozanne [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 10:09 AM

Great site.

Makes me fear for the Copts in Egypt, though...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 10:52 AM

What about the Daughters of Apes and Pigs?
Why be so discriminatory? LOL.
And their Comment section doesn't appear to work,
at least not in Firefox.

Posted by: Mister Ghost [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 10:58 AM

justmomof4,
what do you expect of a religion whose prophet married a girl when she was six and consummated it when she was nine? and when the hadith calls for Muslim me to see to it that their daughters are out of their houses before "passing their first blood" and thus married before the onset of puberty? one could easily believe that the apes and pigs ain't us!
spinoneone

Posted by: spinoneone [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 11:03 AM

correct "Muslim me" to read "Muslim men." I am most certainly not a Muslim!

Posted by: spinoneone [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 11:04 AM

Welcome SOA&P. You are bookmarked.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 11:44 AM

Robert

Please add this site to your link list.

Ibn Misr

If you are reading this, UsorThem is right - the comments box, after momentarily appearing, disappears.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 12:16 PM

SOA&P don't just ignore PC, they took it to the shed, spanked the hell out of it then threw it into the junk pile. A must daily read. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Kevin [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 3:01 PM

Ibn Misr, I was going to post a comment and contact you regarding your awesome web site but it's not working just yet?

Posted by: kozanne [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 3:39 PM

I can't say enough to express our admiration for you Robert (which you knew already). So we just elevated you to the rank of HONORARY COPT that deserve you the Coptic Legion d'Honeur :)for your immensely scholarly knowledge that is most valuable and needed more than ever to educate America and our civilized world.

As for the many people that encountered problems subscribing to our site,we were alerted about that, and assure everyone that we're still working on the technicality glitches (since the site was launched only 4 days ago). In the mean time you can email us at Copticnews.org@gmail.com, and we will subscribe you to the newsletter.

Our many thanks to everyone here for their nice comments and encouragements, which make us feel we (the people) have the power to persevere in our ultimate "Jihad" for the truth, for America and all western countries, for the future of our children and our freedom.

Posted by: ibnMisr [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 7:58 PM

In the first post of December 8th this appears, “Literally Islam means “surrender” and that’s exactly what Mohamed stated “surrender and be safe (from the sword)."

I thought literally Islam means submission? Maybe I’m splitting hairs here but the words, and I admit they could be synonyms, mean different things, literally. To me surrender is giving up, losing and accepting the consequences, whereas submission somehow denotes a willing subordination. It just struck the wrong note in my brain after hearing so many people chastise TRUE believers for saying Islam means peace.

I tried to post this there but couldn’t. Good luck ibnMisr. I emailed to get on your newsletter too.

Posted by: butterfly [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2007 10:23 PM

To buttterfly,

You raised a very good question to give me the opportunity of correcting an erroneous mis-translation by the western world of the word "Islam". the root word for Islam is "sal'lem" which is literally surrender. A very common expression used in Arabic is "sal'lem lel lah" which literally is: surrender to allah.

As for submit, the translation in Arabic is "ekh'daa" which is a totaly different word .

Let me show you 2 families of verbs:
1st- Sal'lem, Aslem, Sal'lemo ..which is the root verb for surrender
2nd- ekh'daa, kho'doo, khada'aa ..which is the root verb for submission ..

so even for someone with no Arabic knowledge, it looks obvious that "Islam" belongs in the 1st set of words.

I hope this explanation was useful to correct the accuracy of the translation.

Posted by: ibnMisr [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2007 1:24 AM

ibn misr - I pray each Friday for two things: for the Defeat of the Jihad, and for the conversion of Muslims.

Every Friday I also pray for the persecuted Church - to which I add prayer for ALL non-Muslims who suffer within the Empire of Islam.

I will remember you.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2007 3:32 AM

Wow, they certainly answered my questions about the Bible not warning us about this.

The article about the New Testament is going to go to church with me.

Posted by: Aunt Bea [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2007 7:08 AM

Thank You for the Surrender/Submission distinction.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2007 9:14 AM

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/glossary/term.ISLAM.html
Islam is an Arabic word the root of which is Silm and Salam. It means among others: peace, greeting, salutation, obedience, loyalty, allegiance, and submission to the will of the Creator of the Universe.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/notislam/misconceptions.html
It might seem strange to think of this as a misconception, but in fact it is. The root word of Islam is "al-silm" which means "submission" or "surrender." It is understood to mean "submission to Allah."

http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/
ISLAM, AL- means submission. derived from the root S.L.M.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Islam1.the religious faith of Muslims, based on the words and religious system founded by the prophet Muhammad and taught by the Koran, the basic principle of which is absolute submission to a unique and personal god, Allah.

http://islamunveiled.info/notpeace.html
Islam means submission. Check with any good Muslim dictionary and “submission” will be the definition of Islam.

…and then I found this…

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/islam.asp#surrender
Surrender
This is understood from a verse in the Holy Quran
where Allah says:
"Inda deena inda lahi Islam." (Certainly, the only acceptable way which Allah will accept is Islam).
[Holy Quran 3:19]
This submission requires a fully conscious and willing effort to submit to the one Almighty God.

…So I’m back to my original question. In the spirit of what it means to be a TRUE Muslim, a willing forfeiture of free will and independent thought must take place. In English this is better represented by submission. On the other hand there is the forced conversion, a feigned belief offered to save one’s life, which, in English, is better represented by surrender.

One of the things this site had taught me is to endeavor to call things by their right names.

Now that I’ve beat this lifeless horse to a pulp…

Posted by: butterfly [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2007 10:39 PM

Proud to be a pork eating primate, as well as a blaspheming, crusading, heretic, infidel. Need I say more?

Posted by: HereticInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 15, 2007 1:37 PM

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