Europe, kiss your butts goodbye.

You opted for socialism, secularism, milticulturalism, political correctness, and moral arrogance.

Even your conservative politicians are conservative in name only.

You invited these curs to your society and you have woken up with fleas.

You castigate Israel and G.W., and you positively glow with self righteousness with all your prattle about the 'poor' palestineans.

You even coined a word which applies - schadenfreud.

Your ignorance of islam is pitiful, and unfortunately may be your downfall.

Posted by: dgene at December 19, 2007 5:48 PM

What islamo-nazis couldn't do with armies, they are doing with women's bellies. HOWEVER; this is working not BECAUSE Muslims are good at procriating, but because the euro-dhimmis have lost the moral foundation that allowed them to resist islami-nazis: their Judeo-Christian tradition.

The Fall of Europe will send out huge alarms to Americans, and I pray that Americans don't make the same mistakes as the euro-dhimmis.

Posted by: Crusader at December 19, 2007 5:55 PM

Rule of hygiene: If you ignore an infection it usually just gets worse.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at December 19, 2007 5:57 PM

"In Europe there is no need for war because if people keep on joining Islam in these countries then Islam will become the majority, which I think is the process that is taking place now, so there will not be any necessity to have war with [non-Muslims],"

He may have a point. And as Islam gains more control over British government, what will our necessity be?

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/uk/slbm/d-5.htm

Anyone see a problem here?

Posted by: RalphInfidel at December 19, 2007 6:32 PM

dgene:Europe, kiss your butts goodbye.

Perhaps tragically prophetic.

Posted by: RalphInfidel at December 19, 2007 6:36 PM

I got to fly in one of these yesterday, it is a beautiful machine.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_exterior_lr.html

In the age of jets, it is impossible to offer government welfare benefits without shoot-to-kill orders at the border. There are too many hundreds of millions or probably billions of people in the world who struggle to support their families on a dollar a day or less.

200,000 tax-paying British emigrants leave every year and are replaced by 500,000 immigrants who burden the social services. The system is unsustainable, the system will go bankrupt, and real people will be hurt. When that time comes, there will be no financial incentives offered to ungrateful new arrivals to get back on the airplane. The airlift capacity exists to humanely end things in a couple of weeks. Human nature being what it is, maybe there will be a program offered that allows surrogate mothers carrying British embryos to stay.

He who laughs first is usually an idiot.

Posted by: pez at December 19, 2007 6:43 PM

dgene

yep and if british nationalists try and save our nation we are branded "neo nazis" "fascists" and "crypto fascists" by both the left and right.

it's a no win situation.

I'm no longer proud to be an englishman.

I'm about 1 year away from burning my british passport and renouncing my citizenship.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 19, 2007 6:44 PM

And the most popular girl's name in Britain is Pollyanna, named for the naive fools making Britain's immigration rules.
So tell me, after we have The Islamic Republic of Britain, will there be pub smashings? Will the Queen be forced to wear a hijab, and be scourged by the King, or will he be the Caliph of England?

Posted by: jewdog at December 19, 2007 7:09 PM

I'm no longer proud to be an englishman.

I'm about 1 year away from burning my british passport and renouncing my citizenship.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 19, 2007 6:44 PM

I don't blame you, Leon.

Muhammed - a horrible name. Along with Adolph, Joseph Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Kim Jong IL.

Poor England. Suicidally destroyed by letting in the Mohammedans.

Posted by: darcy at December 19, 2007 7:11 PM

leonthepigfarmer:
yep and if british nationalists try and save our nation we are branded "neo nazis" "fascists" and "crypto fascists" by both the left and right.

There is virulent strain of moderation alive today that believes we can subdue an enemy with stern language. Unfortunately, both the left and right are too moderate even to use stern language.

Starting to feel like Hans Blix in Team America?

Unless we collectively grows some balls about our right to exist and the backbone to stand up for Western Civilization, we could see the rise of real fascists (not the 7th century, you've must bang your head on the floor five times a day or we'll gouge your eyes out Islamofascists) who lack the, shall we say, touchy feeliness of our current leaders. Then the Left will really have something to complain about. Come to think of it, the Islamofascists may even wind up with a legitimate complaint if that happens.

Oh, I forgot, anyone complaining then will be shot.

Posted by: RalphInfidel at December 19, 2007 7:12 PM

a memo to Europe's anti-US Political Left-wingers:

I send you my heartiest congratulations!

Soon the EU will be a Communist-Islamic dictatorship. Presumably, this is what you wanted (heaven only knows why) and is what you worked tirelessly for decades to achieve. Presumably, too, the reality of existing in bondage will not be much of an inconvenience to you, nor, presumably, will it upset your personal comfort zones (but watch those 'hate' speeches, which can upset the state and result in the state handing out unbelievably nasty and protracted torture sessions and incarcerations).

So far, so good. We presume you will be content with your self-assigned (and possibly permanent) roles as slaves under Islam and Communism.

This memo is a only a friendly reminder that your cousins across the Atlantic will NOT be joining you in this endeavor of yours. Not now. Not ever. Whatever the cost, we stand by freedom. We intend to ensure that the Statue of Liberty WILL continue to stand in a land of liberty despite your best efforts over the past seven or so decades to undermine us at every turn.

Adieu,

Pythagoras

Posted by: pythagoras at December 19, 2007 7:12 PM

200,000 tax-paying British emigrants leave every year and are replaced by 500,000 immigrants who burden the social services.

I can almost hear the toilet flushing in that country, what will these parisites do after they digest that country, remember they don't like a good fight so preserve the second amendment!!!!!

Posted by: OLD SARGE at December 19, 2007 7:13 PM

Statistical information released yesterday showing Muhammad is the second most popular boys name in Britain "proves Islam is becoming the majority in the UK and will one day enter every house in Europe,"

Errr, no, it shows the lack of imagination present in the Muslim community, instead of diversity Islam encourages the lemming mentality and they all follow each other. If 8 out of 10 Muslims boys are named Mohammed but 10 out of 10 non-Muslims boys all have different names, the popularlity of Mohammed doesn't say anything about total numbers unless you know how many different names are used by both communities.

Posted by: Tziona at December 19, 2007 7:16 PM

Has anyone read Walter Laqueur's recent "The Last Days of Europe"? He chronicles the fall of "Old Europe," in light of the massive influx of emigrants from Muslim countries in the late 20th century. It's a great read!
Laqueur sees the situation as too far gone to do anything about at this point. He also notes that the "antiauthoritarian" approach that Europeans take in dealing with Muslims is wrongheaded. I wish he would come out and say the obvious: the majority of Muslims understand force and domination best. There's no reason not to make these the benchmarks of our diplomatic relations with Islamic republics across the globe.

Posted by: Shawn at December 19, 2007 7:23 PM

That's right Tziona.
You know, there's a Muslima on welfare in London who has 20 boys, and when she wants to call them in for dinner she shouts "Muhammed!", and they come running. Of course, their last names are all different.

Posted by: jewdog at December 19, 2007 7:25 PM

Somewhere in the pages of JW in the last year or so, I read that Moslems in Europe are leaving Islam at the rate of 2000/day. Does anyone know the source of this figure, and its accuracy? If it's correct, then it's only immigration that is expanding the number of Moslems. And stopping immigration would mean a slow, gradual decline in their numbers.

Posted by: ebonystone at December 19, 2007 7:34 PM

sadly the EU architects will stop at nothing to implement their one Euro nation. The mass open door immigration policy is there is end nationalism. Islam would or could be the dominant force in islam as it will unite the people under islam and one europe. Hitler saw the power of islam and praised it, napoleon also stated that islam should be the religion of europe.

"napoleon...."I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur'an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness."

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 19, 2007 7:35 PM

Britain has left the beast in and he is growing. Expulsion of at least some Muslims and prohibition of future Muslim immigration to the UK must occur-----and soon. One thing else. While the British National Party (BNP) has several good ideas, the fact that they prohibit someone from joining their party on the basis of race alone is a monumental stupidity, both ethically and from a public relations standpoint. For the BNP, a black man in Britain who is a deep admirer of Churchill and Thatcher, is a devout Christian, a good family man, profoundly skeptical of Islam, conservative through and through, cannot join the BNP because of his race. Those who understand the mortal threat Islam poses to any Western nation shoot themselves in the foot if they adopt a racist policy while combatting Islam. Very dumb indeed.

Posted by: Wellington at December 19, 2007 7:40 PM

Re: 'Muhammad boys' prove 'Islam will enter every house in Europe'

This is "thousand year Reich" stuff. It won't turn out they he thinks it will.

Nothing in life ever turns out the way we think it will: not our marriage, not our kids, not our bourgeois "career", not our health, not who will be our friends, not who will be our "enemies", will turn out as we imagined. I never dreamed I would be as fortunate as God has (like Santa Claus) surprised me with His kindness. I have also known people who appeared to have every advantage, but bad health, bad luck, bad judgement, made things turn out painfully for them.

'Islam will enter every house in Europe' may turn out to be Christ will enter every house in the Mid East. Don't test God. It's not a good idea. Be humble. Just say the Our Father and ask for mercy on us all. It's all a crap-shoot. Best pray for mercy from God via Jesus.

Posted by: Frank at December 19, 2007 7:45 PM

Wellington

"a black man in Britain who is a deep admirer of Churchill "

churchill was against mass immigration into the UK. he would be branded a "neo nazi" in today's socialist europe.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 19, 2007 7:56 PM

Frank: I'm not a Christian, not religious at all, but I hope your wish that Muslims turn to Christianity en masse comes true. This would be a far better world if every Muslim on earth woke up a devout Christian tomorrow morning. On this, I believe, you and I would have no disagreement.

Posted by: Wellington at December 19, 2007 7:58 PM

That's a great post, Frank.

Merry Christmas!

Posted by: darcy at December 19, 2007 8:04 PM

leonthepigfarmer: Being against mass immigration is one thing (sensible, even though modern liberals remain clueless here and self-righteous as well). Disallowing someone from joining a political party on the basis of race alone is quite another (indefensible and stupid). Were Churchill alive today I have no doubt that that great man would never tell a patriotic black British citizen, who had imbibed conservative principles and lived them out in his daily life, that he could not become a member of the Tory party because of his race. I'd put a lot of money on this bet.

Posted by: Wellington at December 19, 2007 8:10 PM

Wellington-

I am not a "religious" man myself. I am "arms length" re dogmas and am by nature skeptical an =d independent. But too many times Jesus has directly answered my prayers for me to ignore that He is showing some interest in me as a human person. I have felt His human-Divine presence in adversity and watched Him turn things around for me. Bonhoeffer (correctly) said He comes to the undisciplined (who wish they were habituated to that), in a way that fills the void. Jesus is not about dogma. He is the Son of God.

I don't any words for Muhammad. Jesus is personal in His gentle approach. And trust me, "I'm from Missouri" as the saying goes. I'm very skeptical by nature.

Posted by: Frank at December 19, 2007 8:14 PM

YOUR GOVERNMENT IS A DEATH CULT

The stench of Islam is spreading among the mind-wiped British masses. Meanwhile, they have banned Jesus from their public schools. Atheists and Satanists IMPOSE the myth of Darwinian evolutionism on every delicate British child but forbid the teaching of the Golden Rule.

For the first time in their glorious history more than 50% of British children are born out of wedlock.

Liberalism is a cult of death.

They mandate abortion protections, and throw Christians in jail for UP TO SEVEN YEARS just for quoting Scripture in public saying that "man shall not lie with mankind as with womankind, for this is an abomination to God". (Leviticus 18:22)

They shame white men for being masculine, and women for not being masculine.

Have you lost the capacity to discern evil? Have you lost the will to confront evil? If so, you are probably a Westerner. Pretty soon you'll either be facing Mecca on your knees in pretend prayer to their demon god, or your head will be rolling in the sand.

Posted by: Tookson at December 19, 2007 8:21 PM

The Fall of Europe will send out huge alarms to Americans, and I pray that Americans don't make the same mistakes as the euro-dhimmis.

Posted by: Crusader at December 19, 2007 5:55 PM

***

What I fear is that if/when a backlash comes to Europe in the form of civil war, the American-dhimmis (the elites in politics and business and academia and the media who think Americans are too provincial, too Chrisitan, too capitalist, too conservative, too xenophobic, too etc. and who want America to be more like Europe) will suddenly rise up in condemnation of those fascist Europeans (they always knew the fascist streak in Europe runs wide and deep) and demand that America open its arms and hearts to the refugees. Not the non-muslim refugees of islamofascism, of course, but the poor, helpless, innocent moderate muslims being hounded by those nasty neo-nazis. And short of multiple major attacks in the US, I'm not going to bet against their chances of getting their way.

Posted by: CJ at December 19, 2007 8:35 PM

Frank:

Islam does NOT worship the Judeo-Christian God "Yahweh", nor does it behave in ways that make sense to westerners, especially if they are Christians. Islam's deity is in actuality Ba-al and its modus operandi is built on a paradigm of perceptions of reality totally removed from anything in Judeo-Christism.

Muslims are merely showing (what they believe to be anyway) their love for al-lah by doing jihad and spreading Islam by the sword. Muslims generally (and truly think) al-lah WANTS them doing that!

"to conque the world for al-lah.....that's jihad-" Nonie Darwish (whose father was a shaheed or Islamic "martyr" and thus would know if anyone would) in her interview in the documentary "OBSESSION: RADICAL ISLAM'S WAR AGAINST THE WEST."

Posted by: pythagoras at December 19, 2007 8:36 PM

Let's not take our European friends too harshly to task because unfortunately, the US isn't too far behind Europe as virtually no politician has a clue just how insidious Islamania really is. Or if they have a clue they either don't care or are in the pay of the Koranists. The entire West is infected by the things "dgene" posted above. And despite 1400 years of history the West continues to make the same mistakes regarding Islamania over and over again. We just never learn-or lack the will to act upon what is learned.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 19, 2007 8:39 PM

Wellington

I agree with your statement. there are many brave patriotic "blacks" and ethnic minorities in the British army. I served with many of them and would rather have people whom i met in the 2 british regiments i served in rather than the majority of the trash that haunt london's dark streets in gangs, (hoodies and chavs).

I'm a nationalist not a white supremacist.

And i use the term "mass" immigration, something different than say, selective and awarded immigration.

The EU has opened the gates and allowed in millions of welfare seekers. the plan? to destablise the EU and to destroy each country's culture and nationalism and so have no national identity or rather one people under the EU flag, something which is impossible when you have nationalists fighting against the EU.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 19, 2007 8:46 PM

pythagoras-

I'm sure that Robert would have pages of scholarly reasons to validate your thoughts. All I can say is that Islam leaves me with a cold feeling re its permissions to deception. It's some kind of rationalization system for domination and the Quran is "moral authority" that permits Fibrahim Hooper and others to ignore facts. It's loathsome. Imagine some guy on a TV program (with Dennis Prager) attributing to Robert a post (deleted by him) and claiming it is the opinion of Robert? Fibrahim Hooper is retarded. Deception alters perception. It's beyond words. I'm at a loss to describe such absurdity re fact as Fibrahim Hooper and others demonstrate. It's amazing.

Posted by: Frank at December 19, 2007 9:11 PM

When I moved to my current neighborhood 5 or 6 years ago - it was over-run with muslim everything 2-4 blocks down 2 major streets. They currently have a block left on the major street and maybe a one more avenue block to one side.
People are either smart or not right? They buy the BS or they see the world around them. Some people will want to enjoy the rest of the world and it's advantages without the dole.
signed -
Pollyanna?

Posted by: nyone at December 19, 2007 9:13 PM

FRANK:

You won't get any argument from me at all vis-a- vis Islam. In fact, I may be way ahead of you!

Posted by: pythagoras at December 19, 2007 9:49 PM

The self-appointed Muslim spokespeople must not be allowed to intimidate people with the triumphalist rhetoric. Muslims are around 2.7% of the British population according to the CIA world factbook, and among them there are a steady stream of apostates and atheists. It can only be so. Islam has become something to be ashamed of.

Immigration is diverse, with many Hindus and Christians. So many Muslims are named Muhammad that it exaggerates their numbers. If every firstborn British boy was named Jack, the number of Jacks would dwarf the Muhammads. If every firstborn son of a Polish immigrant was named Lech, Britain would appear to be going Polish. The fertility of immigrants is high, but this should not be exaggerated. Muslims are not Orthodox Jews.

No one should EVER give in to the triumphalist blather of people like Muhammad Abdel-Al. He deserves only to be mocked and his buffoonish statements refuted. I find it VERY hard to believe the converts are flocking to the laughingstock religion of Islam, or that those who make such an error persist in it for long. This "revert" obsession among Muslim spokespeople is pathetic and stupid. If you count every hippie who goesto an ashram or chants during their yoga class as a Hindu, suddenly Hinduism has millions of converts.

Posted by: Quijybo at December 19, 2007 10:02 PM

The idea the Islam will prevail in Europe just doesn't make any sense. Given the fact the Muslim seem to name every Tom, Dick and Harry Muhammed, it is highly likely to show up on a survey of boys names. That hardly means that Islam is growing among Europeans. I doubt that one in 1000 Europeans born in Europe of European parents are Muslim. Yes, it will be a popular name in surveys but that is all.

Posted by: Jerry M at December 19, 2007 10:03 PM

"Muhammad boys' prove 'Islam will enter every house in Europe"

I don't doubt that, and I don't doubt that they'll enter assisted by the infidel leaders of Europe.

Posted by: rational at December 19, 2007 10:13 PM

leonthepigfarmer: I appreciate your last comment greatly. What matters in the long run are ideas and character. Islam has atrocious ideas and character can be found in any race, any ethnicity, either gender. Also, though not possessing a drop of British blood in me, I have the greatest admiration for the Sceptered Isle and her peoples (that's specifically why I've described myself here at JW as "Wellington"). No population on earth has influenced world history, overwhelmingly for the good I would vigorously argue, over the last millennium than have the Brits. That's why diligence and appropriate action against the most long lasting, inimical ideology of all time to freedom and other good and wonderful things should not exclude any who understand the truth of it all where Islam is concerned. My best to you and yours.

P.S. I would strongly encourage the BNP to drop any racial qualification to membership. What should matter is ideas, above all a belief in the greatness of Great Britain (Ireland too) and a full and complete realization that there is nothing in Islam that can add to such greatness, but rather can only detract from it, very likely grievously so.

Posted by: Wellington at December 19, 2007 10:18 PM

JerryM.:

Evidently you are totally unaware that Muslims conquered most of Asia and Africa over one thousand years ago and wiped out at least ten major civilizations in the process and snuffed out well over 270 MILLION human lives in the process (the actual total may well be far higher than that but we may never know). If push comes to shove, Muslims WILL commit genocide anywhere if they can get away with it.

The hundreds of millions of people of the nation of Hindistan, for example, probably didn't expect their civilization to be snuffed out (it was the most technologically advanced and prosperous in the world at that time). But the Muslim invaders during the 700s AD succeeded in snuffing it out -- and taking out (at least) tens of millions of human along lives with it. History repeats itself, you will agree?

The modern world's respect for human life is being used AGAINST the modern world by the Muslim world which has absolutely NONE. And I hate to tell you Islam's blackmail by violence against non-Muslim societies DOES work and unfortunately it always has. 55 Muslim countries exist almost exclusively over the past 13 centuries they were blackmailed into "embracing Islam." Western Europe may be next.

Islam's conquest of western Europe makes PERFECT sense for the simple reason that the modern world simply has lost touvh with the concept of absolute ruthlessness and fails to comprehend that to a high percentage of the world human life means nothing. Squeeze hard enough, thinks much of the world's Islamic population, and the unbelievers will yield to Islam's blackmail, as they almost always have done in the past.

Let's hope they're wrong. But we absolutely cannot take it for granted that the Muslim "radicals" are wrong, because they may be correct.

Posted by: pythagoras at December 19, 2007 10:36 PM

Teachers in the 80s used to make jokes about every second boy in their classes being named "Jason" and every second girl "Jennifer." Can you imagine a teacher in a British public school in a few years trying to take attendance? "Muhammed." (21 voices: "HERE!!!")

Would that this were the only thing to worry about. In reality, this poor teacher would probably be frantic with worry lest her hijab was revealing too much facial skin, an offense for which some of the well-trained little 6-year-old moles in her classroom would immediately report her to the local imams.

Posted by: angloirishslav at December 19, 2007 10:36 PM

pythagoras-

I'm not surprised if you are ahead of me on anything-LOL. I have a lot of voids and am by nature undisciplined. That's why I'm so impressed by Bonhoeffer's thoughts on the matter. I think Bonhoeffer was right re Jesus gentle-kind (and very subtle) desire to help fill the void. He comes to the undisciplined. He comes to the weak first. It's like Jesus-triage when we enter a hospital. The worst cases get attention first.

Posted by: Frank at December 19, 2007 10:45 PM

Jerry M: You apparently are unaware that if the present birth rate discrepancies between Muslim and non-Muslim women in Western Europe continue, then it is a mathematical certainty that Muslims will be in the majority in several Western European countries a half century or so from now.

Posted by: Wellington at December 19, 2007 10:53 PM

Cute name MOHAMMAD.

I can see why the Brits would go for it. It flows of the tongue like 'fish and chips'. Look at it in detail:

MO reminds one of the Three Stooges
HAM reminds one of porcine delicacies
MAD needs no comparisons

So why not have the Brits fall in love with that lovely name? :)

Jack is such a dull boy by comparison!

Go Mo!

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at December 19, 2007 10:58 PM

leonthepigfarmer writes:
"I'm a nationalist not a white supremacist."

I pray that your nation will survive this current
mess and that the mohammadans will not be
victorious there, or anywhere else.

At the same time, I have a difficult time
criticizing those people who support parties
like the BNP, since the mainstream parties
remain ignorant. I'm Jewish, so I clearly have
some misgivings about them, but until some other
party acknowledges the problem I will just watch.

Britain was a great nation, and has the potential
to be great again. Don't give up hope! Remember,
we're dealing with savages who'll go into a frenzy
when mocked, and one of the strengths of English
culture has always been that keen sense of humor.
Mock them ruthlessly.

Posted by: root_cause at December 19, 2007 11:04 PM

"The idea the Islam will prevail in Europe just doesn't make any sense. Given the fact the Muslim seem to name every Tom, Dick and Harry Muhammed, it is highly likely to show up on a survey of boys names. That hardly means that Islam is growing among Europeans. I doubt that one in 1000 Europeans born in Europe of European parents are Muslim. Yes, it will be a popular name in surveys but that is all."

I agree JerryM, that even if every household in Brittain called their child's Teddy Bear 'Mohammad' it would not mean the end of Europe.

In fact, I for one am not worried one bit. I think there is absolutely NO CHANCE for Europe becoming Islamic by 2050 or 2550, since this is NOT the 7th century anymore. But it makes for a good story, maybe a book and movie, that Islam is taking over Europe's freedoms like some grade -B movie from the '50s, a monster no one can stop until we find out it melts with water... you know the plot.

Islam is about as much of a danger to us in the West as those old monster movies... not a chance. We know today what it means to have slavery, which is now outlawed, and since Islam means 'submission' slavery, it has no chance. Not legally, not militarily, not numismanically, not nominally, not anyhow. I don't lose any sleep over it, at all. :)

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at December 19, 2007 11:13 PM

Can we please severely limit the immigration of these people to European countries? What is Europe waiting for?

As far as I see, doing the above plus weeding out the Islamists already in Europe's midst is the only sure way of preventing their taking over the European continent.

Posted by: S Perry at December 19, 2007 11:15 PM

Wellington:
For the BNP, a black man in Britain who is a deep admirer of Churchill and Thatcher, is a devout Christian, a good family man, profoundly skeptical of Islam, conservative through and through, cannot join the BNP because of his race. Those who understand the mortal threat Islam poses to any Western nation shoot themselves in the foot if they adopt a racist policy while combatting Islam. Very dumb indeed.

You're right, as has been stated repeatedly on this site, the struggle against Islamic tyranny isn't about race; it is about ideology. Western Civilization is not synonymous with white civilization; people of every ethnicity should feel they have a stake in defending it. This is not multiculturalism, but a culture of personal freedom. Judging from the heroic authors writing on the subject from all around the world, I think there is evidence that many people understand this. A racist policy in the fight against Islamic ideology only plays into the hands of tyrants; left, right, and Islamic, and undercuts the very freedoms we want to preserve. Indeed, it would be "Very dumb indeed".

Posted by: RalphInfidel at December 19, 2007 11:23 PM

Immigration is diverse, with many Hindus and Christians. So many Muslims are named Muhammad that it exaggerates their numbers. If every firstborn British boy was named Jack, the number of Jacks would dwarf the Muhammads. If every firstborn son of a Polish immigrant was named Lech, Britain would appear to be going Polish. The fertility of immigrants is high, but this should not be exaggerated. Muslims are not Orthodox Jews.

Truth is - no religion has adherents naming their children after their leading figures, no matter how devout. Had that been the case, every Christian would be named Jesus, every Hindu would have names like Rama/Krishna/Shiva, every Jew would be Moses and so on. We don't need to butress our deities the way the Mohammedans do.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at December 20, 2007 1:02 AM

But plurality must be factored in when discussing nations with a parliamentary system. The US has had a two party system almost since its creation. In the US a party truly gains control when they have enough votes to override vetoes. So we are less vulnerable to voting blocks. But get enough party members who have the same agenda, for example environmentalists, and they can become a powerful voting block in the parliamentary style. While this is has not been a common occurrence in our recent history we are not immune. The parliamentary system is much just more susceptible to minority blocks. And it only takes a plurality to effect policy change. Enough muslims get elected to parliament who are like minded about sharia, trouble.

Posted by: Kevin at December 20, 2007 2:12 AM

Apart from immigrants out breeding the indigenous population the PC,leftwing,'Yuman rites' spouting, treehugging, Guardianista ,Moonbat UK Politicians, Judiciary and Social services are presiding over the biggest 'White Flight' from UK since the days of colonisation of the USA, South Africa and Australia/New Zealand. The only problem is that this educated wealth producing 'white flight' is being more than replaced by the influx of ungoverned third world Social Security sponging immigrants with a huge percentage of these being rabbit like Mohammedans who have no intention whatsoever of integration and assimilation. The UK and a lot of Europe are on the brink of becoming third world uneducated violent Mohammedan cesspits.

Posted by: Realist at December 20, 2007 2:24 AM

LOL, I do love this article. Although I believe that Britain is now so dhimmi it's not even a joke, to suggest that muslims outnumber non-muslims because the second most popular name is mohamhead is the funniest thing I've heard for a long time. EVERY muslim male in Britain is now named mohammed. The indiginous population uses many different names. You have to understand that muslims love to name their children after the pedo-in-chief, just not their teddy bears.

But you are right about one thing, Britain is doomed if it doesn't pull it's finger out. However the triumphalism shown here is hardly helpful. The last thing anyone wants is a muslim Europe, we must all work together to stop that. The alternative of a muslim controlled Europe is something America won't survive either. Although I suspect that the triumphalists on this site are merely trying to drive a wedge between Europe and America, the same way the islamists at the BBC do.

Posted by: DaveMate at December 20, 2007 3:54 AM

Battle_of_Tours

"Islam means 'submission' slavery, it has no chance."

There is a very old saying; "Never" is not a word you use in politics"

I hope you are right but I lived within a mile a Muslim area for 30 years and was never troubled. It was not until I worked in one that I became alarmed.

Posted by: Fred at December 20, 2007 4:18 AM

An update. The name mohammed is actually the 17th most popular in the UK. The report that said it was the second most popular name in the UK is based on using all variations of the name mohammed, muhammed, mohamhead etc. Using variations of spelling is not used with any other name. As usual we see the islamic attempt to pass a falsehood off as a fact by twisting the facts to suit. The actual number of babies named with one of the variations moohamhead etc. is 6,500.

What is more worrying is how easily a lot of people throw in the towel and say how hopelsss it is, and that we are "done for". This is exactly what islamist do in order to weaken the resolve of non-muslims the world over. Anyone who falls for this and starts saying that it is inevitable that islam will rule the world (or even Europe) are actually helping the islamification of the world, and as such are a tool of the islamists. Although unwittingly, they have become the dhimmis they profess to despise.

Wake up and smell the Taqqiya.

Posted by: DaveMate at December 20, 2007 5:44 AM

so there will not be any necessity to have war with [non-Muslims]," he said. from the article

Isn't he breaking some law of Islam when he declares this?

Foxnews has a story about the Archbishop of Canterbury debunking the Nativity. He states that "you don't have to buy into the virgin birth to join up"

I am always amazed that people who buy into all kinds of supernatural phenomenon, UFOs, ghosts. etc have a problem with this.

Posted by: Aunt Bea at December 20, 2007 5:55 AM

Few notes:

GB is NOT the whole Europe. Obviously in the "old" member nations there is a lot of muslim immigrants and communities. The "new" countries, however, have some righthand experience with totalitarian (read: bolshevik) rule so they are naturally opposed to anything which claims an undisputable "truth" in the name of anything, be it Lenin, Marx, Engels, Hitler, or Mohammad. I'm Czech, and about 70% people in my country dislike islam and I'm proud they do, because islam IS the same as nazism and communism.
Just please don't come here to educate us stupid intolerant savages how to be "more tolerant" to a "religion" which preaches hate, tyrrany and expansion. We have seen enough of that crap lately. Differently collored. But it's all the same under the hood.

I know that EU is ruled by people who were young in late sixties when marxism was part of their teenage and post-teenage revolt. And I know that every politician - at least in Europe - dreams of feudal style rule, unaffected by such unpleasant things like election, when lowly peasants dare to ask him what he was REALLY doing for them when he was in power recently. And I know that with islam, nazism or communism these dreams could became true. But heck I'm not going to tolerate any form of tyrrany or oligarchy here.

Posted by: kugelfest at December 20, 2007 5:57 AM

...they make it easier...all job applications with the name Mohammad (or any of its variations) will be discarded...

Ban Muslim Immigration...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 20, 2007 6:38 AM

Sleepy Britain, when will you wake up?

iSlum is winning the fight against the sleeping enemy, tread quietly mohammed, you don't want to wake her.

I frequent pubs across this fine land of ours...i have ears, trust me when i say this country won't go down without a fight.

There are over 60,000,000 non-muslims in the UK, there are 3,000,000 iSlumics.

There are 60,000 pubs across the UK each one would be able to raise a fighting force of between 20 and 200 men.

There are 1000 mosques, local and national groups protest against the building of any new ones.

We are an island and we know how to use the English Channel in times of war.

Anyone good at maths?

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins at December 20, 2007 6:40 AM

"Anyone good at maths?

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins"

...anyone good at banning Muslim Immigration?..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 20, 2007 7:00 AM

I'm affraid that simply banning muslim immigration won't help, Sgt. Brown. You have enough of them already inside and producing new Mohhamed boys as we are chatting here. The only rational way is to outlaw islam. And make it possible for honest citizens in GB to own firearms again. Because the dishonest ones own them already and will use them, as they did in Paris suburb riots.
I even heard about an attempt to snipe police officers - called to a fake riot - with a .22 LR gun, but fortunately the idiots... sorry I mean the proud warriors of Allah... did not zero the scope so they mised every shot out of about 20, save for one, when they managed to hit an policeman's foot by accident.

Posted by: kugelfest at December 20, 2007 8:07 AM

The claims these arseholes make amaze me!
More amazing and saddening is that you guys in the USA believe them.

Tommy Atkins makes a valid point and I support him 100% in his assessment of what would happen if it came to the crunch. These lunatics ARE still a minority here, they are just very loud and are good at the "Islamic rage" bit. That makes them look like there are millions more than there really are. That coupled with the support from the loony left types who have always been in the media and local government (there are probably far less of them than Mo's) means they get dis-proportionate media coverage, and receive biased in their favour treatment from welfare and other state aid.

Then we come to this P.C crap, sorry USA you sent us that nonsense, talk about giving the lefties a big stick to beat us decent honest Brits with, Thanks Buddy!! Europe has taken on this P.C shit with a vengeance, human rights acts, law suits, anti-discrimination laws, "positive discrimination", "ethnic employment quotas", what next?

Our BBC (Biased Broadcasting Corporation), is run by leftists and P.C maniacs, just watch any news broadcast featuring schools. Anyone would think that the population of the UK was 80% black or "ethnic". Then any coverage of the middle east, can the reporters crawl any further up the Palestinians arseholes?.

Still, as Tommy Atkins rightly says, we still have our Pubs. Our traditional Brits retreat. Don't get me wrong, the P.C freaks have their eyes on those as well. Smoking banned already, and now they want to limit the amount of beer we can drink (for "our own good" of course bless them!).
Still as Tommy rightly says, this is where our culture and real political views still exist. Nearly everyone in the pubs I drink in wants all Muslims sent back home. The real people of England hate them. They will never win, they will never overcome our culture. This "multicultural" rubbish will never work, it is a leftist/liberal dream. Nothing more than the left gaining votes from the new immigrants they give all our benefits and housing to (without being able to speak a word of English translators paid for by the tax payer in the council and benefit offices do that for them, whilst making sure they are given "all that they are entitled to". Brits wait in line to fill out their own complex forms and often receive far less as they don't know all the rules and entitlements).

It is now backfiring on them though. The Muslims now have their own candidates so they wont vote for the lefties anymore, nor will the real Brits. The next general election will see the labour party relegated to around third place, they will face the biggest defeat ever. The trouble is, the conservative party are as bad. They also are full of P.C creeps, and scared to death of being called "racist or right wing". They still expel people for speaking out against Islam or immigration! They started that nonsense with Enoch Powell, probably the wisest man the conservatives had after Churchill. Today's conservatives would probably expel Winston for being "to far to the right". however they will I am certain still win the next election, and probably waste the opportunity to save Britain from ruin. The second election from now will see a massive rise in true right wing parties who will rid us of Islam.

So to the boastful Jihadist, he had better now and forever more, give up any hope of entering every home in England. Believe me he will already get more than he bargains for in most peoples I know! in a few more years he will KNOW his true place.

Back home in some sand filled stinking hell hole living under his medieval death cult.

The majority of Brits don't want him here!!!

USA please take note, we are NOT all Dhimmi retards, we CAN and WILL fight should the time come. In the meantime we desperately want politicians who have the balls to act and deal with this via the ballot box and the rule of British laws for British people.

So don't just sit around praying, start kicking YOUR politicians over there into shape The USA needs to take political action for all the good old boys over there. The good decent hard working guys who make the USA great. Fight for YOUR culture and way of life, that's under threat as well.

Don't worry about us Brits giving in, these jokers are not in the same league as Hitler or Stalin. They ARE just a small, and very hated minority, should the time come we Will, to quote a phrase from your side of the pond,
"Whoop their sorry asses!"
I just hope I'm not to old to do some "whooping"!!!

Posted by: Defender of The Realm at December 20, 2007 8:10 AM

I love your spirit, Defender, but how do you plan to fight back once jihad is up in Britain, when your homeland is suffering from the "anti-weapon" hystery? Your personal bravery and a broken glass or a chair won't, sadly, help you much against a shotgun.
I experienced this hystery self, when we were returning from one english traditional archery festival in summer, and a politically correct clerk on the border was going berserker about us having "dangerous weapons" all over our car trunks. That was some sight to behold. Yeah hell how can you join an archery competition without bows and "dangerous and pointy" arrows? I have a very bad feeling about this socialistic dhimmi EU. Integration of Europe is unescapable, but the way it happens is rotten for sure.

Posted by: kugelfest at December 20, 2007 8:42 AM

...and one more thing, Defender. You are not "too old". I'd like to show you these gray plump gentlemen who are defeating us much younger shooters at the combat shooting competitions... they look so innocent and harmless... until the timer beeps and the show begins. Some sight to behold. Put one old daddy like this on one end of a street, and a group of young "brave warriors of Allah" on the other and I will bet all my money on the daddy without a doubt. It's not an age, it's your fighting spirit, will, mind and skill which makes a winner.

Posted by: kugelfest at December 20, 2007 8:52 AM

"But too many times Jesus has directly answered my prayers for me to ignore that He is showing some interest in me as a human person. I have felt His human-Divine presence in adversity and watched Him turn things around for me." --from post above

So right. My experience as well. Personal.

Why do we never hear any Muslims talk about their "personal" experience of Allah? Answer: Allah doesn't exist.

Posted by: darcy at December 20, 2007 8:55 AM

"We see from this study of Muhammad's name that Islam is on the rise and cannot be stopped no matter what your crusader governments do," said Muhammad Abdel-Al

I think they can be stopped, but not by the Bush, and his leftist admirers method. Holding hands and kissing only allows the terrorist to be on top. The missionary position.
Immigrate, multiply, capture the vote, take over.
A four step program that does not require violence, and is a sure fire winner. This will happen in America because it is the America way.
The American Islamic Republic is only a vote away, unless something not quite as accommodating as the American way, is established. We can see from Britain and Europe, what over accommodating Islam is bringing them...

Posted by: duh_swami at December 20, 2007 9:16 AM

Not just the Brits that have "conservatives" that aren't much different from liberals. US also has that plague, Canada, etc...

3 futures for Europe, Britain....

1- Muslims assimilate in their host countries, and they all live happily ever after

2- Muslims take over the continent through demographics, threats, violence etc.

3- Europeans, British revolt, gets ugly, leading to subsequent deportations and the end of political correctness, multicultural experiments

I think we could all agree option 1 is a write off. Option 2 and 3 are most likely....I'll have to go with option 3.....at some point things must change, and Islam is helping this change every single day.

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at December 20, 2007 9:28 AM

I hope you are right but I lived within a mile a Muslim area for 30 years and was never troubled. It was not until I worked in one that I became alarmed. - Posted by Fred

Troubled yes, but not fatalistic about Islam's conquest of the West. We will fight them, and they will lose. No one, not even dimwhit dhimmi politicians, media apologists will in the end surrender constitutional government and laws protecting human rights for sharia slavery to Mohammad's mad dreams of allah. Not worried, but ready to answer the alarm. "They" are here.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at December 20, 2007 9:55 AM

I agree Option 3, which is a good name for it, Op3 is Europe's only hope.

Op3 and live Free.

Posted by: mike trivisonno at December 20, 2007 10:54 AM

I'm not that old yet! only around 50! I'm just perhaps being optimistic that it will take another 10-15 years before things become really ugly here.
That is unless common sense prevails before then and we get the political will to rid ourselves of these invaders from within. The "socialist originated multicultural experiment" has failed, and failed dismally. It was never mandated by the British people in any election, it is nothing more than a sneaky back door experiment which has been perpetuated by every government Tory or Labour, and is still triumphed as being correct and necessary by the Labour, Conservative, and Lib-Dem parties alike. All are scared of the accusations of "racism" which follow any attempt to say multiculturalism is wrong or is failing, or that Islam is anything other than a peace loving bunch of guys with a strange dress sense and taste for dodgy beards who would never hurt a fly!

The majority of us see both for what they are, we just don't yet have a popular political movement with the guts to do so. When we do, the support from us will be massive, the trendy P.C liberal types in ALL the current 3 parties will squeal "foul" but the mass of decent Englishmen will vote for the culture and way of life we love and want to preserve. Islam is so alien to our culture here in the UK that it may as well be green with one eye, have long slimy tentacles, and just have stepped out of a UFO.
We will never accept it and when it begins to destroy our way of life (as it is now trying to do) we will fight back.

That is happening now, the support for this fight is there, we just need our next Winston Churchill to tell it how it is and ask for our votes!! The right policies and the guts to stand up for them will get the votes of the Millions of real Brits who want the England they grew up in back. Not some multicultural experiment gone wrong that is barely recognisable as England.

Posted by: Defender of The Realm at December 20, 2007 11:28 AM

Don't write us off too quickly. The British take a long time to get riled, we have a nasty habit of giving people the benefit of the doubt, look at Hitler. But when we do get riled, when our backs are against the wall, we come out fighting. It is a shame that we will have to endure more attrocities before the majority realise the threat they face. When that happens you will see the very best, and the very worst, of Britain. What a shame that we can't live together without people trying to impose their views on others.

Welcome to the 21st century.

Posted by: DaveMate at December 20, 2007 11:29 AM

The good news is that Mohammed is not an exclusively Muslim name. I have many students who are named Mohammed or whose family name is Mohammed. Many of them are dedicated Christians and get very irritated when someone assumes they are Muslim just because of their name. As one told me -just because someone is named Apollo or Thor doesn't mean they follow ancient paganism- so also the name Mohammed may be after a relative.

Posted by: Provoslavni at December 20, 2007 12:33 PM

Does anyone else see the "dhimmi" in these posts?

Errr, no, it shows the lack of imagination present in the Muslim community, instead of diversity Islam encourages the lemming mentality and they all follow each other. If 8 out of 10 Muslims boys are named Mohammed but 10 out of 10 non-Muslims boys all have different names, the popularlity of Mohammed doesn't say anything about total numbers unless you know how many different names are used by both communities.

Posted by: Tziona

The idea the Islam will prevail in Europe just doesn't make any sense. Given the fact the Muslim seem to name every Tom, Dick and Harry Muhammed, it is highly likely to show up on a survey of boys names. That hardly means that Islam is growing among Europeans. I doubt that one in 1000 Europeans born in Europe of European parents are Muslim. Yes, it will be a popular name in surveys but that is all.

Posted by: Jerry M

'Islam will enter every house in Europe' may turn out to be Christ will enter every house in the Mid East. Don't test God. It's not a good idea. Be humble. Just say the Our Father and ask for mercy on us all. It's all a crap-shoot. Best pray for mercy from God via Jesus.

Posted by: Frank

Each one of these denies the history of Islam's war on the rest of the world since 634.

FRANK! When the five Caliphs came out of Saudi Arabia and began the conquest of the Middle East, it WAS Christian. In fact, the greatest theological minds in Christian history were from the areas conquered, places where commerce, agriculture, and universities thrived. North Africa was Christian -- with a Christian Church every mile and a half, according to archeaologists. Where in the world do you get the idea that Christianity can thrive in the Evil Empire of Islam? They behead people for that. The "yellow badge" for Jews under the Nazis came from the enforced Christian dress code in Islamic countries. The stories are legion about some poor guy who put on a fez one night at a neighborhood barbecue, and was hauled up on charges the next morning that he had declared himself Islamic, because he had donned the 'officially' Muslim garb. (This is an example of the adolescent maturity of Islam) Some chose death rather than renounce Christ.

TZIONA & JERRY M! The Islamic community is reproducing at a rate far higher than the Christian community. They produce six children for our two. The odds are that within a few generations they WILL out number the Christians, or be a significant enough population in all European countries to impose Islamic laws (Sharia) on the populations via the legislative bodies. Unfortunately, it is a done deal, it is only a matter of time. Our descendants will look back and wonder why we didn't see Islam coming to dominate the old world.

Posted by: thelittlegreekwoman at December 20, 2007 1:32 PM

Does anyone else see the "dhimmi" in these posts?

Errr, no, it shows the lack of imagination present in the Muslim community, instead of diversity Islam encourages the lemming mentality and they all follow each other. If 8 out of 10 Muslims boys are named Mohammed but 10 out of 10 non-Muslims boys all have different names, the popularlity of Mohammed doesn't say anything about total numbers unless you know how many different names are used by both communities.

Posted by: Tziona

The idea the Islam will prevail in Europe just doesn't make any sense. Given the fact the Muslim seem to name every Tom, Dick and Harry Muhammed, it is highly likely to show up on a survey of boys names. That hardly means that Islam is growing among Europeans. I doubt that one in 1000 Europeans born in Europe of European parents are Muslim. Yes, it will be a popular name in surveys but that is all.

Posted by: Jerry M

'Islam will enter every house in Europe' may turn out to be Christ will enter every house in the Mid East. Don't test God. It's not a good idea. Be humble. Just say the Our Father and ask for mercy on us all. It's all a crap-shoot. Best pray for mercy from God via Jesus.

Posted by: Frank

Each one of these denies the history of Islam's war on the rest of the world since 634.

FRANK! When the five Caliphs came out of Saudi Arabia and began the conquest of the Middle East, it WAS Christian. In fact, the greatest theological minds in Christian history were from the areas conquered, places where commerce, agriculture, and universities thrived. North Africa was Christian -- with a Christian Church every mile and a half, according to archeaologists. Where in the world do you get the idea that Christianity can thrive in the Evil Empire of Islam? They behead people for that. The "yellow badge" for Jews under the Nazis came from the enforced Christian dress code in Islamic countries. The stories are legion about some poor guy who put on a fez one night at a neighborhood barbecue, and was hauled up on charges the next morning that he had declared himself Islamic, because he had donned the 'officially' Muslim garb. (This is an example of the adolescent maturity of Islam) Some chose death rather than renounce Christ.

TZIONA & JERRY M! The Islamic community is reproducing at a rate far higher than the Christian community. They produce six children for our two. The odds are that within a few generations they WILL out number the Christians, or be a significant enough population in all European countries to impose Islamic laws (Sharia) on the populations via the legislative bodies. Unfortunately, it is a done deal, it is only a matter of time. Our descendants will look back and wonder why we didn't see Islam coming to dominate the old world.

Posted by: thelittlegreekwoman at December 20, 2007 1:33 PM

...anyone good at banning Muslim Immigration?..

Posted by: exsgtbrown

I deputize you, Sarge! :-)

Posted by: champ at December 20, 2007 2:10 PM

MrTommyAtkins

The European Union has over 1 million fighting troops who WILL be used to put down any rebellion in the far corners of their empire.

Nationalism is a dirty word in Brussels, they put down one rebellion this year already and they will use heavy artillery, special forces and tanks to put down an armed one in the UK.

Nothing, I repeat, nothing can stop the road towards a one European super state, a one nation where all nations will have to give up sovereignty and their ancient laws. This is hte goal of the EU.

Think that's crazy? Austria, Haider's nationalist party in 2000 had sanctions imposed upon them by the EU for winning a democratic election in their own country but the far left in Brussels decided that the Austrian's had gone too far!

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 20, 2007 2:44 PM

One reason why no-one will tell the elected government of the UK what to do, especially a bunch of unelected lefties in brussels.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/uk/slbm/d-5.htm

Posted by someone else, and by the way do you honestly think the UK would give these over to Islamic control? if so you are REALLY stupid.
This is why Islam will NEVER defeat us.

Posted by: Defender of The Realm at December 20, 2007 3:34 PM

This memo is a only a friendly reminder that your cousins across the Atlantic will NOT be joining you in this endeavor of yours. Not now. Not ever. Whatever the cost, we stand by freedom. We intend to ensure that the Statue of Liberty WILL continue to stand in a land of liberty despite your best efforts over the past seven or so decades to undermine us at every turn.

Adieu,

Pythagoras

Posted by: pythagoras at December 19, 2007 7:12 PM

You sure about that? Our leaders sell us down the river as we speak. Not one has the balls to p0int out the root cause of the problem...or do anything about it.

Posted by: solomonpal at December 20, 2007 3:37 PM

Leon, the EU is the biggest threat to the freedom of the world we have ever seen since islam raised its ugly head. The EU stands for the end of democracy and a modern form of communism. When the EU superstate is in place it will be a superpower that will make the U.S. look like a welfare case. The wishes of the democratic peoples of all EU countries have been ignored by the "leaders" who have decided that our democratic right is not important, that the 500 million "european citizens" should do as they are told by 200 people who call themselves leaders. The EU will be the new world order and a dictatorship that would make Hitler blush.

And we believe that communism died at the "end" of the cold war? In the meantime islam will try and fill the power vacuum that the creation of the EU has made. Multiculturalism IS the new communism. And islam knows it. God help us all.

Posted by: DaveMate at December 20, 2007 4:23 PM

littlegreekwoman -

Remember. Despair is one of the seven deadly sins. To tell people, over and over, NOTHING CAN BE DONE THE MUSLIMS WILL ALWAYS WIN is to paralyse the will; and thus to ensure a Muslim victory. Sure we need sober realism. But what we need to be doing is studying the victories of the past, as well as the defeats.

Remember your own history. How long did Athens and Corinth, the heartland of Greece, suffer under the Muslim boot? Centuries. But your people, in the end, rose up and threw them out.

Romania and Bulgaria were once conquered, enslaved, and robbed by Islam. But they rose up and threw Islam out.

Spain and Portugal were conquered and controlled by Islam for centuries. But the Spanish and Portuguese Christians ultimately took back their country and booted out the Moors. Could anyone have predicted that would happen, say, half-way through the 'Occupation', with three or four dreadful centuries yet to run? With Christians and Jews being mass-murdered in the streets of the cities?

Malta and Sicily were occupied by Islam for centuries. They were freed.

Pray: and pass the ammunition.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 20, 2007 4:54 PM

MrTommyAtkins states that the UK has 60 million non-muslims and 3 million muslims. The US has 298 million non-muslims and 3 million muslims. The numbers on both sides show that armed conflict is a no brainer on the muslim side, in country. Plus with the 2nd Amendment in the US, armed invasion here would make Iraq and Afghanistan look like a nice Sunday outing. I have to admit to ignorance as far as the gun ownership laws in the UK. What we both have to careful of is the way the muslims are manipulating our courts and their PR machine. The best option for both nations is to force out the apologists in both government and the media. But how to do this? Of course the vote is the single largest method. Electing strong leaders who have no problem calling a spade, a spade and at least making sure our rights are not further eroded. The hard part is WHO? The next solution is to educate others. This site plays a part but we need to recruit others to read this site or others like it. I myself have already started working on family. The only good a quick fix will accomplish is buying time to change attitudes. The quick fix being upcoming elections. And I use the term "fix" loosely. The US, UK and our western brothers are all crippled from the multicultural and cultural/moral equivalence crowd. And that is what is needed to be fixed in order to stem the red tide of islam in the long run. And as stated above, there is no need to lose sleep. Yet. Let's just not get to that point. I lose enough sleep worrying if I'm doing a good job parenting for my children.

Posted by: Kevin at December 20, 2007 6:20 PM

DaveMate

The EU already have their police within the UK, Wales at the moment.

Polish cops are patrolling the streets of Wales.

Richard Brunstrom, Chief Constable for North Wales

Brunstrom admits that this is the case in his personal blog:

“Well, we have a national project, called Operation Mermaid. It runs, frequently but irregularly, throughout the UK. We in North Wales are particularly active. We ran it again last week, from 1000hrs on Friday to 0200hrs on Saturday, on the A55 near Holyhead. We were accompanied by other agencies, including VOSA, our Special Branch, and two uniformed police officers from Poland (because we now actively cooperate with other European police forces). We also had a BBC film crew.”

Soon the EU will send troops or stormtroopers, a rapid response teams to quell any Nationalist uprisings.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 20, 2007 8:10 PM

the little Greek woman wrote:
TZIONA & JERRY M! The Islamic community is reproducing at a rate far higher than the Christian community. They produce six children for our two. The odds are that within a few generations they WILL out number the Christians, or be a significant enough population in all European countries to impose Islamic laws (Sharia) on the populations via the legislative bodies. Unfortunately, it is a done deal, it is only a matter of time. Our descendants will look back and wonder why we didn't see Islam coming to dominate the old world.

You've already given up, and you're calling me a dhimmi!? Never say die!

Posted by: Tziona at December 20, 2007 8:32 PM

http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
View Terrorism as it happens.

Posted by: ElizaDoolittle at December 20, 2007 9:10 PM

DaveMate:

Luckily for the rest of the world, economic growth in Europe is minimal at best and as the population of the continent is in sharp decline this will make it hard for Europe to catch up with other areas of the world where economic growth is occurring far more rapidly. Islam and jihad conflicts never did anyone's economy any good either I might add.

Europeans are going extinct (but don't expect them to admit it). In a few generations their percentage of the global popuation will reach vanishing point.

Otherwise your assertions about the EU might well be correct.

Posted by: pythagoras at December 21, 2007 1:37 PM