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Why is this story relevant here? Because it manifests yet again a phenomenon we see all the time in connection with jihad. You know how it will be on this issue, if it follows the pattern established so many times before. Islamic spokesmen will say, "Islam forbids...Islam condemns..." and disavow any connection between Islam and this phenomenon. We have seen this happening recently in regard to honor killings. And we have seen it for years when Muslim spokesmen in the West speak about jihad terrorism.
But meanwhile, there will be other Muslims who say, "Islam commands...Islam requires..." -- about exactly the same things. And that's why it's not enough for Muslim spokesmen in the West simply to tell us that Islam forbids child abuse, or honor killing or jihad violence. They must begin to counter the arguments of the other side within the House of Islam.
"Indonesia: Islam to blame for child abuse, says protection group," from AKI (thanks to all who sent this in):
Jakarta, 15 Jan. (AKI) – Poor interpretation of Islam may be responsible for rampant child abuse across Indonesia, according to a national protection group.In an interview with Adnkronos International (AKI), Seto Mulyadi, chairman of the National Committee for Child Protection (KPAI), said that many parents misunderstand what Islam says about physical punishment.
“There is a saying in Islam which states, ‘At the end of a cane lies gold,’ which parents have taken as advice to discipline their children,” Mulyadi said.
“Many parents don’t reflect on the teachings. They think that if you want well-behaved children, then it is ok to cane them.”
"But Islam actually means that parents should be firm with the child’s education,” he added.
Mulyadi also explained that many parents view their children as possessions.
“Parents feel superior and think they can treat their children however they want, thinking it is for the sake of their future or education.”
According to a new report by KPAI, an estimated 72,000 Indonesian children were abused last year, either physically, sexually or mentally, and most of the violence was carried out by parents or relatives.
KPAI’s report shows that 447,294 children are living in the street, 42,771 are being exploited sexually in a commercial manner, 232,726 have dropped out of school and 721,615 are employed as workers.
The report also highlights how children’s rights are excluded from government plans, even though Indonesia has signed the UN Convention on Child Rights, which calls for it to uphold children’s rights.
Although most of the abuse happens in poor, uneducated families, Mulyadi explained that abuse also happens in wealthy homes....
However, Mulyadi said that, most importantly, the culture needs to change their perception of children and lift the cultural taboo that contributes to abuse in the archipelago.
“Many parents think that reporting incidents will bring shame to the family, especially if it involves sexual abuse,” he said.
Posted by Robert at January 15, 2008 6:09 AM
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"KPAI’s report shows that 447,294 children are living in the street, 42,771 are being exploited sexually in a commercial manner, 232,726 have dropped out of school and 721,615 are employed as workers.
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.....even if these numbers are half correct, it clealy shows there is something with the teachings of Islam....child labor, child sex trade, and the mistreatment of children are things that Christianity and the western world have sought to eliminate from its societies....Christianity has sought to keep children in school and to encourage them to learn marketable skills needed to be gainfully employed and to be finacially successful in life..
...when Muslims are around, schools are attacked, teachers and doctors killed, I remember one instance where the Muslims chained the doors of a burning school shut in order to prevent the little girls from escaping the fire....the Muslims claimed the little girls were not properly dressed...
....Where ever Islam is allowed to dominate, the quality of life dissolves...
Ban Muslim Immigration...
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at January 15, 2008 7:48 AM
The Leaden rule
Do unto others as you would have them do unto others.
Posted by: flowerknife_us at January 15, 2008 8:01 AM
“Many parents think that reporting incidents will bring shame to the family, especially if it involves sexual abuse,” he said.
This would seem to be a universal belief. How many cases of child abuse in the US are hidden from authorities by non-abusive parents who simply don't wish to have their diry linen aired in public or who think they can handle the problem themselves?
It's taken decades to get that taboo even cracked, let alone broken.
Posted by: PMK at January 15, 2008 8:15 AM
In the late '80s and early '90s I had a foster child in Indonesia, a little girl, from the time she was 8 until she turned 18. I often think of her and wonder how her life turned out. It's probably better I will never know.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at January 15, 2008 8:39 AM
Graphic display of child abuse in Islam,
http://mosquewatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/saudi-teacher-beats-child.html
In the name of Allah, the most merciful
Posted by: miira at January 15, 2008 9:16 AM
Child abuse is rampant in the world. What is the difference between ‘At the end of a cane lies gold,’ , and 'Spare the rod, spoil the child?
Only one thing, that adherents to other religions, have a tendency to evolve themselves away from violence for fun and profit. The tendency of Islam is to lean toward violence. This is not to say that
no Christian abuses their children, but the tendency is to move away from violence by spiritual development and advancement. This is not the case of Islam who is not moving away from violence, being stuck in the seventh century mode. So while child abuse is known in the western religious behavior, it is probably, (no statistical figures), no where as prevalent as in Islam. A few years ago I read an article about child sexual assaults in Pakistan's
madrassas. A Pakistan education minister said that between 2000 and 2004 there were more than 2000 complaints about abuse of which, two hundred were 'investigated', no arrests or convictions...
at January 15, 2008 10:27 AM
"A Pakistan education minister said that between 2000 and 2004 there were more than 2000 complaints about abuse of which, two hundred were 'investigated', no arrests or convictions...
Posted by: duh_swami "
....is child abuse even a crime in Islam....or is child abuse just a result of Islamic religious training....
at January 15, 2008 10:33 AM
“Many parents think that reporting incidents will bring shame to the family, especially if it involves sexual abuse,”
Yeah, we wouldn't want child abuse and sexual exploitation of children to bring shame to a family. Otherwise, they might have to kill the child to protect the family honor.
Posted by: DJM at January 15, 2008 11:28 AM
There is another comment that can be made.
Whenever evil deeds are done within the House of Islam, Muslim apologists insist that all such deeds (even when performed by professing and practising Muslims) have nothing to do with Islam.
However: Muslims are only too quick to associate the non-Muslim faiths with any and all evil deeds performed in the lands of the Infidels, even when such evil acts are clearly condemned by the teachings and religious leaders of those faith communities, and even when those evil deeds are done by irreligious/ nonreligious people who have never darkened a church or temple or synagogue door their whole lives long.
They allow their own system an 'out' that they refuse to allow to others.
at January 15, 2008 6:12 PM
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