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Posted by: redandwhitestripes at January 16, 2008 9:59 AM

It's a tiny minority of extremists...

attacking in batallion strength...

capturing company-sized elements...

consistently defeating the central government...

If we don't destroy the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, it won't do us the same favor.

Posted by: Beagle at January 16, 2008 10:16 AM

"The fort was captured by militants, we are taking stock of the situation," chief military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas told AFP...."

...the location of the fort is known as is the location of the militants holding the fort....time for an airstrike...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 16, 2008 10:16 AM

Around midnight 400 miscreants attacked the Frontier Corps at Sararogha.

That's alot of few extremists.

Posted by: special_guest at January 16, 2008 10:17 AM

Assalamau Laikum,

Sad news indeed regarding our jawans.

Where are our terror fighting ally ...the Amerike?

Posted by: Naseem at January 16, 2008 10:18 AM

400 x 72 = 28,800....it is going to get busy down there...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 16, 2008 10:27 AM

Naseem - more lying as usual. You know that the Pakistani government won't let us attack targets inside Pakistan.

Tsk, Tsk.

As Abraham Lincoln once said, "you can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time."

What happens when everyone has read the Qur'an (or a translation)? Where are you going to hide?

Posted by: tanstaafl at January 16, 2008 10:27 AM

"Sad news indeed regarding our jawans.

Where are our terror fighting ally ...the Amerike?"

Posted By Naseem

Naseem:

I am quite surprised to hear that from you. You must clearly know that Musharaff has forbid any coalition, or American Troops from conducting any operations against AlQaeda, or Taleban across the border into Pakistan.

Posted by: Mackie at January 16, 2008 10:41 AM

Another 20 troops were missing after insurgents armed with rocket launchers and assault rifles blasted their way into the remote outpost at Sararogha town in the rugged South Waziristan tribal district.

So in the "rugged" tribal districts the people have rocket launchers. Where did they come from, the Musharraf government, perhaps? Or were they all remnants of the war with Russia? That must be it! America sent them to Afghanistan almost thirty years ago, across those rugged mountains!

Posted by: PMK at January 16, 2008 10:44 AM

Time for a little kickbutt.

When a trained army cannot take on some ragtag civvies, there is a political agenda involved.

(like islam ?)

Posted by: dgene at January 16, 2008 10:55 AM

Assalamau Laikum dgene,

jawans have paid the ultimate price doing their duty....no need for that tone is there?

Posted by: Naseem at January 16, 2008 11:02 AM

Naseem:

Are there Pakistanis' like yourself that would like to see coalition, and American troops come in and clean out the vestiges of Al Qeada, and Taleban insurgents? Actually I think not since recent polls have said that nearly 50 Pct of Pakistanis' support Osama Bin Laden.

Naseem --- You can't have it both ways. Osama Bin Laden and AlQaeda could care less about the every day Pakistani, he wants world power and he doesn't care how many Muslims he has to kill to get it and establish a caliphate-- He is like all the demogogues,despots, and dictators that have ruled by sharia and the tenants of the ever evolving Hadiths for over a 1,000 years.

Posted by: Mackie at January 16, 2008 11:20 AM

Naseem wants protection from the Taliban that Pakistan created? LOL

Posted by: Elric66 at January 16, 2008 11:30 AM

Hundreds of Islamist militants
and up to 50 rebels dead,
were missing after insurgents
"Around midnight 400 miscreants

Call them anything but never refer to them as jihadists...

Now Naseem wants Ameriki to rescue her...LOL
Don't hold your breath...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 16, 2008 11:45 AM

"Another 20 troops were missing"

Defected?

Posted by: Lt. Presley O'Bannon at January 16, 2008 11:58 AM

Why does anyone even respond to Naseem....he/she's just trolling.

Musharaf should go after more lawyers and journalists as a response to the seige.

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at January 16, 2008 12:33 PM

Sneakyzionistcrusader:

I think we interact with Naseem compared to some trolls that have commented here, simply because she has commented on the Jihadwatch site for years and on occasion, although rarely we do have a little bit of common ground and some interesting info that is shared our Pakistani friend.

Posted by: Mackie at January 16, 2008 1:09 PM

"Another 20 troops were missing"

Defected?
Posted by: Lt. Presley O'Bannon

No. They stayed on with the jihadists. Probably started the fighting from the inside to make things easier for the attackers coming in from the outside.

Kind of like having tyrky in the EU and in NATO.

Sad to know our poloticians have never heard of Troy and the Trojan Horse and the implications of it all for today.

Posted by: Allah Schmallah at January 16, 2008 1:33 PM

Assuming the fatality figures of 40 to 50 terrorists, and 6 or 7 troops, are correct, it seems the troops gave a good account of themselves. At any rate the dead troops are the ones who should be enjoying their virgins in paradise, not the rebels.

Posted by: ebonystone at January 16, 2008 1:37 PM

The American government should not be helping the government of Pakistan. The only internal force it should be helping are the rebels fighting for a fair deal in Baluchistan, for their fight is not only just, but furthermore, it will weaken Pakistan, and Pakistan's weakening, its disintegration, is not necessarily to be deplored, just as long as the nuclear weapons are either secured, or seized, or destroyed, by Western forces -- American, Indian, or a combination of the two.

The nearly $30 billion (the newspapers do not question the figure of $10 billion routinely handed out by the American government, but they should, and they should take into account the cancellation of Pakistan's debt as well) that has been lavished by the Administration on Pakistan, meretricious Pakistan, hopelessly Muslim Pakistan, has been largely wasted. What has been achieved? Is the Taliban not revived? Is it not flourishing in the northwest frontier region of Pakistan? Is there any heartening display of loyalty, any demonstration of military efficacy, by the Pakistani troops who have been the recipients of so much American largesse? No, of course not. And there never will be. The Pakistan about which American policy has been made is a fiction, a comforting fiction where the good, loyal, tough, allies in the Pakistani army fight with us, work with us, side with us, against the Taliban, against Al Qaeda. Is that true? Is that what the last six years have demonstrated? Or have they demonstrated something quite different, and more unsettling?

Posted by: Hugh at January 16, 2008 1:45 PM

"Is that what the last six years have demonstrated? Or have they demonstrated something quite different, and more unsettling?"

The track record of Pakistanis is quite evident and much of this has been documented. Here's a slightly dated URL on Pakistani escapades - this level of terrorism is not possible without state support:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE6-3/narayanan.html

and here's a snippet all references and links are available if you follow the URL

QUOTE
US 505th Parachute Regiment captures 8 Al Qaeda including a financier with documents from Pakistan Foreign Ministry [Chilcote 020911]

· Italian Police Arrest 15 Pakistani Al Qaeda Suspects [Yhoo 020912]

· Ramzi bin al-Shibh, the suspected member of Al Qaeda captured in Karachi [NYT020917]

· US to execute Pakistani for CIA shootings [WP 020917]

· Al-Qaida, ISI cell in Portugal? [Sharma 020922]

· Kuwait Authorities Arrest Teenager With Explosives”..received orders from Pakistan over the Internet to place the explosives in the towers.” [WSJ 021019]

· Pakistan police said to detain doctor over anthrax - accused him of supplying anthrax to Islamic militant groups [Alertnet 021028]

· Girlfriend Tells German Court About Sept 11 (hijacker) Pilot “Ziad Jarrah, .. had visited Pakistan, and returned with a plan to train as a pilot. [Yhoo 021119]

· Reuters: U.S. Troop Killer Fled to Pakistan, U.S. Says [Reuters 021222]

· France Arrests Six (Algerians and Pakistanis) in Shoe Bomb Probe [Yhoo 021126]

· Kuwaiti Confesses to Killing American (under Pakistani orders) [Wpost 030123]

· Khalid Sheikh Mohammed arrested in Rawalpindi – from the house of a Pak politician. [BBC 030304 ]

· 32 blades, no explanation (Pakistani detained at DFW airport). [Heinzl 030531]

· Al Qaida Recruits Scientists For Wmd Attack [MENL030606]

· Karzai accuses Pakistan of car bombing Germans to death. [NYT 030609]

· "Grenade launcher" was found at the Maryland home of Masoud Khan, a U.S.-born, Pakistani-reared kitchen designer. [STLP 030612]

· Police and Terror Suspects Die in Mecca Shootout (included Pakistanis) [Bradley 030615]

· “Ohio al-Qaida suspect pleads guilty - Truck driver suspected of plotting attack on Brooklyn Bridge” [MSNBC 030619] (Pakistani – confessed getting orders in Pakistan)

· Pak freezes accounts of Osama, HuM [SIFY 030621] (a full 21 months after 9/11/2001)

· Pak citizen charged with terrorism in UK (HT 030623]

· Pakistani Man Charged With Lying to FBI About Threat to NYC [FOX030623]

· 9/11 Funds Traced to Pakistan Accounts :[Yahoo 030801] “..FBI .. have "traced the origin of the funding of 9/11 back to financial accounts in Pakistan, where high-ranking and well-known al-Qaida operatives played a major role in moving the money forward, eventually into the hands of the hijackers located in the U.S."

· 'Virginia Jihad Network' Case: “the men's ultimate goal was "to fight American soldiers" [Wpost 030801]

· Portland terror suspect admits trying to aid Taliban [Estimada 030806]

· “The perpetrators of the deadly car bombing at Jakarta's Marriott Hotel trained with al-Qaida in Afghanistan and Pakistan” [MSNBC 030808]

· Gen Barry McCaffery confirms on CNBC that Pakistani terrorists are attacking US troops in Iraq. [CNBC 030808]

· “Mrs. Galt said she has gone as far as setting up Web sites for some notorious groups, including the al Qaeda-affiliated Lashkar-e-Taiba in Pakistan… Other intelligence coups by Mrs. Galt include a revelation that terrorist groups in Pakistan have been conducting experiments with chemical weapons.” [Wtimes 030809]

· “Pakistani students being sent by UK-based Islamic organisations like Hizb al-Tahrir and al-Muhajirun to Pakistan openly call for the overthrow of democracy and the establishment of a “khilafat”.” [LDT 030812]

· Two Pakistanis arrested at Sea-Tac; one man's name on terror list [SeaTimes 030813]

· 20 killed in Afghanistan; Taliban, are using bases in Pakistan to launch cross-border attacks. [RMT 030813]

· CIA knew 9/11 hijacker's flight training plans: [Rediff030820]

· Pakistani millionaire and Pak-American son arrested on charges of transporting material for Al Qaida.

· Rag trade terror plot - Al Qaeda sought Garment Center tie [NYD 030822]

· Nineteen held in case with 9/11 (in Canada) [Reuters 030822]

· Thai police arrests 3 Pakis for suspected terror link [PTI 030823]

· Bremer: Foreign Fighters a Growing Problem in Iraq [Frank 030824]

· Nepal expels Pak diplomat Codename: “Mustafa” caught with counterfeit currency. [NEPAL 030824]

· Last year the FBI concluded that terrorists are eagerly surveying weaknesses in power grids through Internet connections in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Pakistan. [Hirsh 030825]

· Three Men Arrested in UK Port Bomb Alert [Reuters 030829]

· Pak Army role in terrorism against USA; 20 army officers face probe: Links with Al Qaeda ; 12 more soldiers under investigation [DAWN 030901]

· Mumbai bomb blast arrests point to Pakistan: “Hanif received instructions from an outfit in Saudi Arabia, which in turn was commanded by an outfit in Pakistan”. [Diwanji 030901]

· Confessions of a Terrorist: Al-Qaeda leader reveals Osama-Pak ties. ”When the fake inquisitors accused Zubaydah of lying, he responded with a 10-minute monologue laying out the Saudi-Pakistani-bin Laden triangle”. [McGeary 030908]

· Taliban pouring into Afghanistan from Pakistan: US commander [LDT 030909]

· US sniper 'linked to terror cult' : Muhammad has been connected to Al Fuqra, ..linked to British shoe bomber Richard Reid and the murderers of American journalist Daniel Pearl in Pakistan last year. [Langton 031014]

· (Pakistani-American) Engineer guilty of conspiracy, gun charges, training with a Pakistani terrorist group, pleaded guilty yesterday to aiding a conspiracy and gun charges. [PhilIy 030923]

· Al-Qaeda Terror Plot In Britain: Man Held (35-year-old Pakistani in Bomb plot) [Edwards 031011]

· Three Harkat-ul-Jehadi-e-Islami (Army of Islam) terrorists to 10 years in prison for their role in a plot to assassinate President A P J Abdul Kalam and abduct cricketers Sachin Tendulkar and Sourav Ganguly. [PTI 031018]

UNQUOTE

The data is quite overwhelming....

Posted by: AJack at January 16, 2008 2:31 PM