Hillary isn't alone. What about George W. Bush? How much has he been influenced by his family's relationship with the Saudis, to say nothing of their close adviser, Jim Baker, III. Expect his library to receive handsome donations. Then again, ever since 1943 the US has had a "special relationship" with the Saudis. Why aren't we looking askance at anyone who takes Saudi money post-9/11? Why isn't that tantamount to having your think tank financed by the Soviet Union during the cold war?

Posted by: PMK at January 19, 2008 9:34 AM

The Saudis are the elephant in the room. Come to think of it there are several elephants in the room.
Its hard to breathe sometimes.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at January 19, 2008 9:39 AM

Until Clinton I was prodemocrat. Not antirepublican just preferring the democratic vision of say Kennedy etc. However with the rise of the islam threat and its concurrent gore I have sided with my old enemies: the christians and the republicans.

In this country, Muslims all vote Labor so I guess that in the USA they vote Democrat. So why is everyone surprised if she feeds at the Islamic udder? Even Bush snr works for the Saudis.

Unless the US's leaders reject the Islamic cash cow we are probably doomed. Everyone may have their price but it is depressing to see it in constant action.

I believe that democracy is failing here in all directions and that we have no one capable of sustaining the casualties necessary to win.

Posted by: MisIslamist at January 19, 2008 9:40 AM

Hillary is a complete amateur here. To see where the real trouble lies, read "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger.

I am not Hillary fan, but anything about her from Dick Morris is suspect to say the least. He has some type of unhealthy emotiohal obsession about her that he is riding all the way to the bank thanks to Fox. Truth hurts, but that's the deal...

Posted by: BunrattyBill at January 19, 2008 9:52 AM

Thank you Dick Morris and Eileen McGann for bringing this story to light.

Will Obama hit Billary with this? Nope. Why? Because Obama has a brother who is a muslim jihadi in Kenya. Google the name Abongo Roy Obama.

Will Edwards hit Billary with this info? Nope. Why? Because left wing Dems don't have a problem with islam. The war against jihad, for Edwards, is a bumper sticker.

If Billary is the Dem's nominee will the Trunks hit her with this story. Only time will tell.

Posted by: omvi at January 19, 2008 9:53 AM

Looks like a case of what goes around comes around!Back when the Yen crashed we bought
every thing Japanese we could get our hands
on!

Posted by: Tincan sailor at January 19, 2008 10:01 AM

Looks like a case of what goes around comes around!Back when the Yen crashed we bought
every thing Japanese we could get our hands
on!

Posted by: Tincan sailor at January 19, 2008 10:01 AM

The insensate greed of Bill Clinton -- the amounts he has taken in, for himself, for his favorite 501(c)(3) "charities" -- the ones that always seem to have his name attached -- continues to amaze and disgust. Simply look at the sums he has taken in, from those lecture fees, look at his friends (all of whom now seem to be billionaires, or at the very least millionaires), since leaving his time devoted to "public service." And apparently he thinks this has gone unobserved, or that if he keeps smiling through, it will all be forgiven.

Why should it?

If Hillary is now the direct, as well as the indirect recipient (through Bill, her husband, he of the book but not of the practice, of "Giving"), of so much Arab and Muslim largesse, then financial records have to be released. Contrary to the expressed desires of Bill Clinton, his wife has no Divine Right to be the Democratic candidate, no Divine Right to anything at all.

The receipt of Arab, especially Saudi, money, is however not confined to this or that candidate. It is a general problem. The American corporations that went to bat for the Saudis during the great AWACS fight (led by United Technologies, with its planes, and Whitney Corporation, which at the time had large hospital contracts with Saudi Arabia) are emblematic of American businessmen who have contracts dangled before them. Of course, it was the constituent oil companies of ARAMCO that for decades worked to present propaganda for Saudi Arabia, depicting the fanatical "kingdom" as a true "ally" of America. The journalists, the teachers (who have chairs, or as in the case of Esposito, whole fiefdoms endowed by the Saudis and other Arabs), the former diplomats to the Arab countries who, through all kinds of fake, loyal-sounding facades (Council for the National Interst, that sort of thing), the fixers -- that is, the fred-duttons, raymond-closes, james-akinses, and all the others who have battened on Saudi and other Arab money, and who have had disastrous effects in the two most important policy areas: they have successfully prevented people in our govnement from studyibng, and understanding, the meaning and menace of Jihad, of Islam, and consequently of formulating policies, above all in Western Europe, that would be based on a recognition of that menaing and meance, and furthermore, have successfully prevented, for decades, the development of an intelligent energy policy that would be focussed on diminishing the use, in this country and all over the world, of fossil fuels, both in order to diminish the Money Weapon of Islam and to limit, or mitigate, the certain damage to come -- mass extinction of species of animal and plant life, a one-meter rise in water levels within a century, a rise in temperatures that, when it occurs over 400,000 years, allows for adaptation but when it occurs over a century merely leads to mass calamities -- anthropogenic global warming.

These two enormous failures are the direct result of the buying up, in Washington and elsewhere, by Arab money, of too many people, thinking or claiming or pretending they "cannot be bought." But they can. And they have.

Hillary Clinton must release their tax records, and indeed, all the other evidence of the tens of millions they have managed, since he left office, to so graspingly and single-mindedly acquire. She, and her husband, have some 'splaining to do.

Posted by: Hugh at January 19, 2008 10:16 AM

It's not just Clinton. Bush's dad got $10,000,000 for his library. Everybody talks about the Jewish lobby and control of the press. It is wrong. The real conspirator pulling the strings behind the lines with massive amounts conspiracy and money we give the savages of Saudi Arabia overpaying for their oil, is the Saudi family. If you want to watch something pathetic, watch Bush dance for his Saudi handlers during his recent visit:

http://www.nafella.com/naflogger/?One_Womans_Opinion/Bush_bearing_giftsdances_and_begs_in_Saudi_Arabia

Bush II will get $10,000,000 from the Saudis when he retires for his library and who knows what else. This has been a standard Saudi retirement benefit to American presidents since Carter, who gets much more, because he has become a champion for Arab interests. Saudi Arabia will get $20,000,000,000 in weapons to further subvert the world. It is pathetic how cheaply our official betray the public trust not to mention the public security.

Posted by: David England at January 19, 2008 10:18 AM

Why is it "yeah maybe Clintons, but look at Bush!" like investigating the Clintons needs to be tempered by investigating Bush. This isn't a republican vs. Democrat thing...this is a corruption thing without partisan lines. We need to understand neither party is immune to oily money in their globalist love of it.

Posted by: SoteriA at January 19, 2008 10:35 AM

Tolstoy said, (paraphrasing a little), 'The good cannot seek power nor retain it. To do that men must love power, and love of power has the opposite qualities of goodness, pride, cunning, and cruelty'.

If the shoe fits wear it. If Tolstoy is right, there are no 'good' people in charge anywhere, least of all the Clinton's. Power and money chasers. An addiction. And do they have pride? Are they cunning?
Are they sometimes cruel? Will they stoop to anything to achieve and maintain power and money?
Too bad there is not a urine test for the drugs of power and money. No politician could pass it.
Hillary and bill especially...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 19, 2008 10:44 AM

Bush family has been selling-out USA to anyone with a few petro-dollars or pesos. Gulf war I was a favor daddy Bush returned to Saudis. US tax-dollars and American lives were abused to return a family-favour. Saudis invested billions into the failing businesses of spoilt, rich brat who, when "elected" had no option but to return those financial favours to Bin Laden family, "Bandar Bush" and other islamists, by providing safe escape to the same Bin Laden family, by blanking out pages from 9/11 interim commission report, by declaring Saudi Arabia "friend and ally" against Saudi-funded terror, by hiring Karen Hughes to appease Islamists, by increasing student's visas which were abused by 9/11 hijackers, by approving "aid" (!?) to Saudi Arabia... and the list goes on.

Ofcourse, noone in the good ole USA saw any conflict of interest in the blatent sell-out!

As for Clinton, he did some selling-out of his own: http://www.blessedcause.org/proof/Clinton%20Embracing%20Islam%20selling%20out%20children.htm

Posted by: Alert at January 19, 2008 10:46 AM

I for one am grateful to Dick Morris for his behind the scenes revelations. Every day when she wakes up Hillary must rue the day she fired Morris...or whatever happened between him and the Clintons.

Saying Morris has an 'unhealthy emotional obsession' about Hillary is like saying Reagan had one about the Soviets. Reagan -- heck, even Litvinenko had one.

I believe it's called vigilance.

Posted by: rishika at January 19, 2008 11:12 AM

Saudi money may not be the greated problem with Clinton Inc vis a vis our war with radical Islam. What about the family connections of Hillary's chief aide , confidant, and likely lover Huma Abedin?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018931.php

Posted by: Jeff M at January 19, 2008 11:29 AM

As much as Rudy is a putz and a RINO, at least he refused 10 mil from some saudi prince after 911. It made him look righteous and American and should be rememberede for it for what it's worth.

Posted by: countywolf at January 19, 2008 11:45 AM

Hugh said:
These two enormous failures are the direct result of the buying up, in Washington and elsewhere, by Arab money, of too many people, thinking or claiming or pretending they "cannot be bought." But they can. And they have.

The problem of not studying the enemy; not naming the enemy; not even acknowledging the enemy is a direct result of PC indoctrination. Indoctrination, if fact, has more to do with being bought off and augmenting business ties and wealth transfer. You see, we simply cannot bite the hand which feeds us, therefore the leftist PC idealism is more a result of a desire to acquire greater wealth & power as opposed to any 'belief system'. Unfortunately, the human instinct to act in one's best interest above all trumps doing whats best for the collective people EVERY TIME.

Sadly as well, the fact that America is 8 trillion dollars in debt, combined with the need for MAJOR corporations (Citibank, Ports Deal, Bank of America, FOX etc) to access cash from non-American entities (Saudi Arabia,UAE, Qatar etc) means that our exposure to Islamic nations will only get FURTHER INTERTWINED for the foreseeable future. We need their money to keep some of our key industries afloat, especially financial. Also, expect further sales of key industries like ports, airlines(yes airlines!) and telecommunications as well as infrastructure like toll roads and whatnot.

Make no mistake folks, America is for sale; and this is no exaggeration; just read the news. Every day, inch by inch, be get more into bed with entities who wish harm and radically change on us. And the worse part is, we need their funds so badly there is no way out.

Posted by: Triumphant_Paladin at January 19, 2008 11:49 AM

No way out, that is, unless we conciously decide to start sacrificing as a people and go through major economic upheaval (which would result from rejecting the Islamic money that we need).

We need to stop oil wealth transfer at all cost. The #1 thing we need to do is get off oil.

AT ALL COSTS

Posted by: Triumphant_Paladin at January 19, 2008 11:56 AM

Couple the Saudi Money problem with aide de camp problem, and then throw into the mix the fact that Hillary is a radical socialist who hates men and has surrounded herself with an inner circle of "feminist" advisors called the "Amazon Battalion":

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/hillarys_oedipal_problem.html

The other major stockholder in Clinton Inc. is George Soros.

Does America really want to drink this cup of poison?

Posted by: Jeff M at January 19, 2008 11:56 AM

Wow. The BDS is really blooming on this thread: Hillary is bad, but look at BUSH!!!!!!

Looks like the Daily Kos people have all moved over here. Well, all you BDS suffering geniuses, what's your solution? Drill in Anwar? No. Drill offshore? No. Nuclear? No. Coal? No.

The only consistant answer I hear from you idiots is: IMPEACH BUSH. You have no standing in any discussion of significance. Go back to the psych ward where you came from.

Posted by: n.a. palm at January 19, 2008 12:26 PM

The government's on the take,

We badly need to create a grass roots, ethical & fiscally responsible third-party candidate. Why are the people's choice of government limited to only 2 political parties?? Corruption becomes entrenched where political options are few; lack of political alternatives is allowing for Democrats and Republicans to collaborate amongst themselves, for their own enrichment.

Posted by: Triumphant_Paladin at January 19, 2008 12:28 PM

Hillary is a complete amateur here.

Posted by: BunrattyBill at January 19, 2008 9:52 AM
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not so.........Hillary and Bill are pros at taking money from the middle east to the bank.

the selling out of America has become the national past time of congress and the presidency..........

are you ready for a change???

then go vote..........

Huckabee has just signed the pledge to rid America of all illegals........ He has seen the light..........and will now get my vote for hunter and thompson do not stand a chance.......

and mccain and guillina are lossers.......for America.

go vote and make a difference in America.

Posted by: ??? at January 19, 2008 12:32 PM

I've been hoping that a new party would start, the Patriots party.

Also, I wish some of the conservative talk show hosts..all over the country...would get out from behind the microphones and run for office. They seem to be the only folks in some kind of public job that care about our nation, our sovereignty, our security, etc.

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at January 19, 2008 12:44 PM

What is the Arab word for whore?

Posted by: FredIsinglass at January 19, 2008 12:48 PM

This isn't a republican vs. Democrat thing...this is a corruption thing without partisan lines. We need to understand neither party is immune to oily money in their globalist love of it.

Soteria,

That's the point. We shouldn't look at Hillary and think we'll have less corruption if we elect a Republican.

MisIslamist said: However with the rise of the islam threat and its concurrent gore I have sided with my old enemies: the christians and the republicans.

The Republicans aren't the saviors some people think they are. They were stalwart (at least Reagan was) in the fight against Communism, but they don't have the same agenda today. Even if the Muslim vote in America went 100% Democrat, voting Republican doesn't mean a thing. Each side has its own reasons for doing what it does. Each party has its own itinerary, different from that of most of the American people. When are we going to realize that?

The "christians and the republicans" are not represented by the bulk of the presidential candidates. The big money interests, be they oil companies, defense contractors or what have you, ARE.

Posted by: PMK at January 19, 2008 1:02 PM

As much as Rudy is a putz and a RINO, at least he refused 10 mil from some saudi prince after 911. It made him look righteous and American and should be rememberede for it for what it's worth.

countywolf,

And what IS it worth? Rudy made that gesture as a public official. Has his private consulting company refused Saudi money?

Posted by: PMK at January 19, 2008 1:05 PM

OT but:
Can you believe the type of madness going in Europe?? Thank your lucky stars North America is 20 years behind Britain's predicament (mainly due to farther proximity, greater barriers to entry, larger land mass [reducing density of third-world populations in our nation]). Its just CRAZY:

Government Employs Illegal Migrant To Process Asylum Applications - Claim!

More telling revelations from Labour’s Home Office Asylum! Quote: An asylum seeker with a false passport worked for almost a year processing immigration appeals, it emerged yesterday.

Eugene Tawanda Madzima landed the job at the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal Service after supposedly undergoing background checks. Officials were tricked by a faked letter from the Home Office saying the 24-yearold had permission to stay in the UK. Madzima was so well regarded at work he even gave a staff training presentation at the AITS centre in Leicester. He was caught only when he tried to use the forged passport to open an HSBC bank account.

As Madzima was jailed for 12 months at Leicester Crown Court for holding forged documents, Judge Simon Hammond said the situation was “staggering” and “beggars belief”. Unquote. Read the full story:

Posted by: Triumphant_Paladin at January 19, 2008 1:19 PM

I've been hoping that a new party would start, the Patriots party.

Also, I wish some of the conservative talk show hosts..all over the country...would get out from behind the microphones and run for office. They seem to be the only folks in some kind of public job that care about our nation, our sovereignty, our security, etc.

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 19, 2008 1:36 PM

Thanks infidel for the Loyalist link. Made for some interesting reading, including this:

If you look at the current stances of our two-party system, we start to see a glimpse of America’s unparalleled distrust (...) It is now very apparent that the Republican Party believes that the only way to maintain any power is to continue their stance as a re-invented Neo-Conservative party with a philosophy of compassion towards illegals, and of business before the nation. The Democrats continue on their road of a phantom party, not standing for anything other than being against the G.O.P. Even more revealing is that a similar doubting sentiment exists regarding nearly all of our nation’s institutions. People are pessimistic about nearly every area of our establishment, including our media, our education, and our corporations.

But something more significant will happen in 2008. By early next year, The Loyalist Party will have begun actively promoting the party candidates. The media will not waste a second before they pounce on the Loyalist Party as a headline. CNN will point to our movement as proof positive, that America is Islamophobic.. And while Christine Amanpour will arrogantly and pompously decree that Islam is the true victim, she will unwittingly be doing us a huge favor. She and other media Elitists will push our movement into that back of every American’s psyche. Americans will now be aware that for the first time in our history a genuinely nationalistic alternative exists; a party that is myopic in its effort to close our borders and stop Islam. While it would be foolish to say that this will have an immediate appeal to the average voter, it will sink into people’s minds that we are an alternative, and the seeds will be planted (...) And just as similar parties have flourished in other nations under the onslaught of Islam, so too will ours, even if it is just a percent or two. We will slowly become a viable 3rd party, enough that the media will be forced to start referring to us as more than just a fringe movement.

Posted by: Triumphant_Paladin at January 19, 2008 2:02 PM

As much as Rudy is a putz and a RINO, at least he refused 10 mil from some saudi prince after 911. It made him look righteous and American and should be rememberede for it for what it's worth. - Posted by: countywolf

Remember it well. But I also watched the debate a couple of weeks ago when Giuliani said the following:

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GIULIANI: Charlie, you wanted a free-for-all.

It is important to make this point. Just the opposite, Ron. I have great respect for the Islamic religion. I have great respect for the Arab world, for the Middle East.

I think we should be closer to them. I think we should trade more with them. I think we should have cultural exchanges with them.

The overwhelming majority of the Islamic world...

PAUL: Why do we support their dictators, then? Why do we prop up all their dictators?

GIBSON: (inaudible)

GIULIANI: ... and on the evening of September 11, 2001, the day my city was attacked, I got on television, and I said to the people of my city, "We're not going to engage in group blame. This is a small group of people. This does not typify a great religion and a great people."

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And yes, following through with those beliefs, Giuliani is also "doing business" with oil sheiks:

Qatar Contract Offers Glimpse Into Giuliani Firm - WSJ.com

Posted by: heroyalwhyness at January 19, 2008 2:52 PM

Thanks for the link

There was a long article yesterday on www.frontpagemag.com yesterday by Stephen Steinlight (it's still up there through the weekend) that highlights the difficult going with the immigration issue. Though illegal immigration, giving them all kinds of social benefits, etc is high on voters' list of important issues, there has been virtually no coverage of the issue by any media. In fact, though something like 80% of Republicans and 60% of Democrats think the issue is important there has been essentially no discussion of the issue at any of the debates. If someone took this issue and ran with it during the primaries, it could change the dynamic of the whole campaign...Tancredo notwithstanding.

One thing about the Loyalist Party: the Loyalists were those who were loyal to England during the Revolutionary War...perhaps a better name would be the Patriot party as the Patriots were the Americans desiring independence from England.

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at January 19, 2008 3:08 PM

Dear Jihad Watch:

I am convinced that, should Hillary become the Democratic nominee for President, she could only win by plurality vote, not by a majority. Bill Clinton was twice elected by a mere plurality, in a conveniently three-way race both times.

I am VERY suspicious of NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg's preliminary un-Presidential campaign. I believe that Mayor Bloomberg can only be a spoiler, and suspect that he is a DNC (Kos? Soros?) Trojan horse.

Qui bono? Why?

(Were I the Republican candidate and campaigners, I would flatly refuse to participate in any THREE-WAY televised debates.)

Posted by: John C at January 19, 2008 3:10 PM

The continuing story of the toxic Saudis and the beltway whores - count in both the Clintons and unfortunately the Bushes.

Is this how Rome came to grief ?

Posted by: dgene at January 19, 2008 3:43 PM

Arab word for 'whore': 'Bush'

Posted by: Havoc at January 19, 2008 4:08 PM

Who cares what Dick Morriss' "obsessions" are (a la a previous poster)? These are completely irrelevant to the larger issues at stake. Cutting off the Saudi influence in US politics is long overdue, and exposing and publicizing the payola received by the Clintons and Bushes is a good place to start.

Posted by: Eastview at January 19, 2008 4:27 PM

John,

Bloomberg is hardly a trojan horse. Like most billionaires, he's a Democrat, his registration notwithstanding. He was a registered Democrat for years until he decided he wanted to be mayor of New York City. He was allowed to reregister and run as a Republican. Now that it's time for the presidential race, he's an "independent".
We who want independent candidates need to look at what we are being fed. "Unity 08" was being proffered as a third party, when it was no more than a mixed ticket. Bloomberg is hardly an independent but the media will try to pass him off as one.

Posted by: PMK at January 19, 2008 4:58 PM

"I am VERY suspicious of NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg's preliminary un-Presidential campaign. I believe that Mayor Bloomberg can only be a spoiler, and suspect that he is a DNC (Kos? Soros?) Trojan horse."

Spot On! I came to the same conclusion myself. I am sooooo highly distrustful of Bloomberg.

Posted by: patagonianplato at January 19, 2008 5:00 PM

eve_anne_gelical,

Unless you believe what he (or she) says about illegal immigration, would you vote for someone who wasn't a Democrat or a Republican?

Surely we see from the media coverage that the media also doesn't want to see this issue discussed. It would put their favorite candidates at a disadvantage. They also view themselves as more sophisticated and better able to understand issues than the working stiffs.
So what will we do in response? The middle class can bring about change by voting for it. We have the same vote as the newscaster or media moderator, which probably drives them crazy.
It may not be what we want but, based on what we do in November, we will get the government we deserve.

Posted by: PMK at January 19, 2008 5:06 PM

Unless you believe what he (or she) says about illegal immigration, would you vote for someone who wasn't a Democrat or a Republican?

Posted by: PMK at January 19, 2008 5:06 PM

Good point! Illegal-immigration is rthe litmus test of every politician. It offers an honest opportunity to a politician to stand for America. On the other hand, it provides adequate to un=patriotic cheats and traitors, to hide selling-out Amerfican destiny to criminals. Bush rode the 'family-values', 'jobs-Americans wont-take', 'only-here-for-a better-future'... lies. In reality he wanted to sell out Amerfican citizenshi to anyone who woul dbuy it. getting some cheap votes for him and his party in the bargain. If one did not know better one would think Bush is the enemy spy, in US Govt.

Posted by: Alert at January 20, 2008 12:30 AM

I'm thinking the same thing, n.a. palm! We need to develop our own natural resources, including oil, including drilling ANWR and offshore. Hell, Fidel Castro and China are drilling where the US Congress will not allow us to drill (no doubt slant drilling in our territorial waters too!). I am absolutely SICK of hearing about Bush and his oil connections. Every member of Congress is invested in oil, so wake up! Bush is in the pockets of oil companies? Congress is in the pockets of enviro-communists, driving up the cost of energy exponentially in their continued attempts to destroy our country.

The Clintons are absolutely FRIGHTENING! UGGH!

Posted by: lafn at January 21, 2008 1:24 AM

Burqas for Hitlery!

Posted by: pythagoras at January 23, 2008 1:26 PM

lafn: it is simply not true that capitalist-industrialists are more concerned about the well-being of the United States and its future than 'environmentalists' if that was your point.

US capitalist-industrialists are more than happy to do business with (read: sell sensitive US-technology to) China, Russia, and Islamic nations; all of which are all-too-obviously eager to roll America into historical oblivion. Many capitalists from the US now permanently reside in China (you and the rest of America can drop dead as far as they are concerned).

You have also ignored market forces at work regarding petroleum prices: insufficient supply drives up prices far more effectively than the hated 'enviros' you vilify.

You may also be interested in knowing that non-fossil fuel energy (which includes uranium-based nuclear power; uranium is far less common than most people realize) sources ARE technologically and economically feasible. The same American capitalist-industrialists who went to bed with the Arabs in the 193os are the same ones who politically blocked America's harnessing non-fossil fuel energy later on.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 23, 2008 1:38 PM