Isn't there a zero missing from the end of that prison sentence?

If not, there's a lobe missing from the judge's brain.

The one where the survival instinct is lodged.

Posted by: profitsbeard at January 22, 2008 12:28 PM

I hope by the time he gets out that Islam is a trivia question.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at January 22, 2008 12:39 PM

TheOmegaMan-

Jeopardy 2030.

"Extinctions" for $1000, Alec, Jr.

"What is 'Is Lame'?".

And the Question:

"Define Islam by using it in the answer, but only adding one letter to the solution."

Posted by: profitsbeard at January 22, 2008 12:47 PM

17 years in prison?

Glad to see Bush's War on Terror is working. 17 years of converting others to jihad at a federal resort isn't a punishment.

Posted by: Patriot_1/17 at January 22, 2008 12:58 PM

Just another sign of our weakness in the face of these monsters. They must be laughing all over themselves down at the caliphate. At this current course we are doomed without a doubt by the followers of that prophet of doom. ICABOD!

Posted by: CJK at January 22, 2008 1:23 PM

(U.S.) Accused Al Qaeda Operative Jose Padilla Gets 17 Years -- sentence of 17 years, 4 months on conviction of conspiracy and material support charges with two others (Adham Amin Hassoun 15 years, 8 mo and Kifah Wael Jayyousi 12 years, 8 mo) -- District Judge Marcia Cooke gave Padilla credit for 3 1/2 years held as an enemy combatant and her view that he had "harsh conditions"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324605,00.html

Posted by: jeffreyimm at January 22, 2008 1:24 PM

If he is sent to the supermax prison in Florence, Colorado, he will be separated from oher prisoners for about 23 hours per day. That will eliminate his ability to preach Islam.

He will be there with the likes of Omar Abdel-Rahman, Wadih el-Hage, John Walker Lindh, Zacarias Moussaoui, Richard Colvin Reid, and Ramzi Yousef, a fine collection of humanity.

This is a list of some of the prisoners: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence

It is Wikipedia, but the list can be checked through the Bureau of Prisons locator page:

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=IDSearch&IDType=IRN&IDNumber=37802-054

Don't for one second think that he will be sent to a meduim security prison. He's going to Colorado, bet on it.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 22, 2008 1:47 PM

I certainly wouldn't want to go on vacation with someone who thinks that a maximum security federal prison is a resort or a spa.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 22, 2008 1:53 PM

Sigh..c'mon guys, I get enough heartburn reading this shite in the MSM and on liberal blogs without getting it here too.

You guys are making the same mistake they are: confusing the President's war-fighting power's inherent ability to hold enemy combatants with the US criminal law.

Two different things. They do NOT over-lap.

Under current law, the US can hold enemy combatants until the war with which that enemy is engaged is over.

Padilla was thus held, and his confinement on that basis was reviewed and upheld by US courts speaking to the President's inherent authority.

However, during the time we held him, we also found him possibly liable for certain criminal acts. He was charged, convicted and sentenced.

There is NOTHING to prevent him from being held as an enemy combatant post-sentence if we are still engaged in that war at that time.

This isn't the cake. It's frosting.

Posted by: KevinV at January 22, 2008 1:59 PM

KevinV,

Good points. But, under the "enemy combatant" status, with our politicians wavering on the "War on Terror," Padilla might have just possibly been released earlier than the 17 years he has been sentenced to serve...

So, this might be a good thing... Only time will tell.

Yup, that's me... Always the optimist....

Cheers

Doctor Bulldog

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at January 22, 2008 2:19 PM

This is why we need the court system out of gitmo. They would do the same thing with them. And they would be out in the streets again - our streets though. Once their 'corpus' (their bodies) are on our lands they are accorded our civil rights. The pukes who were caught in the ME would be accorded our rights - this is what the lefties and/or Democrats want for the gitmo pukes.

I am not only sick of judges, but the lawyers of this puke. And we paid him his salary. It was probably a muslim using our system against us too.

Posted by: R_not at January 22, 2008 2:20 PM

In a situation/case such as the one we find ourselves in; We must remember that to most involved and especially to our enemies, Perception is everything. This frosting is all over the floor and I think most of it ended up under the oven.

Posted by: CJK at January 22, 2008 2:26 PM

Thank you, KevinV! That was very informative and even after the ensuing comments...very encouraging.

Posted by: Dina at January 22, 2008 2:29 PM

Sentenced 17, subtract 3.5 yrs already served=13.5 yrs, subtract 3 yrs for good behavior=10.5, subtract 3 yrs due to prison budget cut=7.5, subtract 6 months for early release on bale=7 yrs. If given a liberal presidential pardon, home free, and move into your neighborhood.

Click wine glass. Celebrate!

Posted by: ssa at January 22, 2008 2:40 PM

Padilla was realeased from military custody and transferred to civilian court, if the US tries to arrest him again and put him in a military jail, the legal process will start all over again. He was he realeased from military custody and the government will have a tough time getting a "do over."

Treason is the charge for a citizen who does what Padilla did, not an enemy combatant charge. If Padilla can be transferred to a military brig after he completes his sentence, it will be a very ugly precedent, and all those hand-wringing liberals who complained about civil rights will be judged correct. The President requires Congressional authorization to suspend habeas corpus. The loss of the right of habeas corpus is a very serious problem. That's my opinion.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 22, 2008 2:52 PM

The legal jihad continues.

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2008/01/uk-veiled-musli.html#comments

Ms Noah, who had been turned down previously for around 25 other hairdressing jobs, said she decided to take legal action because she was distressed by Ms Desrosiers' comments at the interview

Posted by: Elric66 at January 22, 2008 2:57 PM

Once their 'corpus' (their bodies) are on our lands they are accorded our civil rights. The pukes who were caught in the ME would be accorded our rights - this is what the lefties and/or Democrats want for the gitmo pukes.

I am not only sick of judges, but the lawyers of this puke. And we paid him his salary. It was probably a muslim using our system against us too.
Posted by: R_not

Things won't get any better if we end up with Hitlery-beater John McLame in the White House.

Posted by: Allah Schmallah at January 22, 2008 3:15 PM

US District Judge Marcia Cooke's "distress" at Padilla's harsh conditions is almost as scary as the evidence against the defendant. Does anyone know: will he do the whole 17 years or will he do about 8 years, as is the case for so many criminals? BTW, the remarks that his mother made go along way in explaining his behavior...."little Jose, no, he's an angel; he couldn't have been the one blowing up the mail boxes in the neighborhood. You've got the wrong boy."

Posted by: maryrose at January 22, 2008 3:18 PM

ABC just announced that Fred Thompson quit.

Where are the bagpipes with the funeral dirge?

Posted by: Aunt Bea at January 22, 2008 3:21 PM

COUGHLIN ALERT:

There’s a good article by Frank Gaffney at Front Page Mag updating the Coughlin story.

Here’s a sample,

“Hashem Islam is also evidently an admirer of ISNA. He arranged for Mr. England to address one of the group's meetings last year — a huge help to an organization reeling from its designation by the Bush Justice Department not only as a Brotherhood front but as an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorism-financing conspiracy.”

Mr. Gaffney doesn’t make it clear if the meeting took place before or after ISNA was named as an unindicted co-conspirator. Point is, that is irrelevant.

The scandal is that,

A Deputy Secretary of Defense has an ISNA mole “guiding him [England] by the nose.” (As Hugh said yesterday.)

Even if the meeting took place before the unindicted co-conspirator status was designated, why hasn’t the Secretary realized he’s taking dangerously bad advice? Why hasn’t he realized that Mr. Islam needs to be fired, not Mr. Coughlin?

The more we find out abut this, the more it seems certain that Secretary England is not only unbelievably stupid, he is also betraying his country.

Or, perhaps he is planning on applying to former Secretary Baker for a post-Pentagon peach with the Carlyle Group. After all there is plenty of Saudi largess to go around. (I would also very much like to know Secretary England’s views on Israel.)

Call all of your Senators and Congressmen and demand immediate investigations!

As repulsive as Jose Padilla is, Islam and England and the entire treason lobby in D.C. present a far greater danger to our national security than a thousand Padillas.

Posted by: patagonianplato at January 22, 2008 3:37 PM

The 17.5 year sentence was well below the Federal recommended guidelines for his crimes.

By now, 7 years after 9/11, 26 years after the Beirut bombing, and after so many other attacks, we should have had much stronger penalties assigned for those caught committing or preparing to commit terrorist acts.

Posted by: special_guest at January 22, 2008 4:23 PM

maryrose said

will he do the whole 17 years or will he do about 8 years, as is the case for so many criminals?

You can be sure he'll be a model prisoner, very pious and religious. He'll get maximum time for "good behavior". I'm guessing he'll serve between 10-11 years; he's already been given credit for 3.5 for time already served. So, your 8 year estimate remaining is probably about right.

Posted by: special_guest at January 22, 2008 4:30 PM

The Clinton administration was applauded in the press when it treated the first WTC bombers as criminals and put them in the civilian justice system. That, combined with the ICC and how many other international treaties governing criminals, makes it all but impossible to do anything else. We're not likely to declare war on individuals. We call them al Qaeda but they don't carry membership cards or passports with that identification. We catch them one by one, and one by one they present themselves as individuals seeking justice and the protection of our laws and we fall for it. There's the driver and the kapo. They don't get the same treatment even though they should. (Didn't Bush catch hell for holding in Gitmo a man whose only "crime" was that he was Osama's driver?) Khalid Sheikh Muhammad is just a man. Even Osama would pose for a mug shot (if he was stupid enough to get caught, that is). He'd also have a bevy of American lawyers decrying any attempt to treat him as a war criminal. (He didn't set that bomb, right?) Unless we're willing to declare war in more than name only, what else can be done?

Posted by: PMK at January 22, 2008 6:29 PM

KoranKrusher, and everybody else, Padilla is going to supermax in Colorado. He will not be able to recruit any new Muslims. His contact with other prisoners will be very, very limited.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 22, 2008 8:43 PM

"Once their 'corpus' (their bodies) are on our lands they are accorded our civil rights."

I disagree, there is a precedent for this. It is the German saboteurs who were caught in Florida and New York during WW2. They were handed over to the military who tried and rightfully executed them. The Supreme Court refused to intervene.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 22, 2008 8:49 PM

Re: And the dirty bomb charges have disappeared without a trace or an explanation.
"Jose Padilla is sentenced to 17 years," from AP:

My hunch is that he is cooperating with the authorities, his info is very valuable, and if it checks out, he'll be out in a few years. This guy has valuable info. He's probably told them things that really spooked them.

Posted by: Frank at January 22, 2008 10:00 PM

It's hard to tell which is the bigger threat to Americans these days, US governmental incompetence or jihad.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 22, 2008 11:21 PM

"It's hard to tell which is the bigger threat to Americans these days, US governmental incompetence or jihad.

Posted by: pythagoras "

....just wait until the dhimmicrats take the whitehouse...then you will have incompetent govermental jihad dumped on the American citizens on a grand internal scale...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 23, 2008 7:30 AM

My son, Jose, (I called him joey puddles when he was little) is a GOOD boy, and so thoughtful. For example, he always brought me the heads of his victims, and some of their money, so we could have enough food to eat. Otherwise I know we would have starved in this evil infidel America.

So leave my son alone, you just don't UNDERSTAND.

signed:

Mom Padilla

Posted by: n.a. palm at January 23, 2008 9:49 AM

exsgtbrwn: My crystal ball is in the repair shop. I am therefore not going to assume the Demoncrats will win this election before (and if) it happens.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 23, 2008 2:02 PM

I found this:

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/worthington.php?articleid=12247

Posted by: pr126 at January 23, 2008 4:42 PM