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January 25, 2008

Who is Hesham Islam?

In "Questions for the Pentagon: Who is Hesham Islam?" in National Review (thanks to all who sent this in), Claudia Rosett asks some pointed questions about the man who appears to be chiefly responsible for the firing of the Pentagon's only Islamic law expert, Stephen Couglin.

In the sorry tradition of shooting the messenger, the Pentagon is cashiering its top expert on Islamist doctrine, Stephen Coughlin. Some members of Congress are now contemplating hearings to ask why. Along with drawing attention to Coughlin’s research, now circulating on the Internet, the growing controversy has thrown a spotlight on Coughlin’s alleged nemesis at the Pentagon, a top aide named Hesham Islam — whose tale deserves closer attention. Not least, as a reporter for the Armed Forces Press Service observed last year, it would make a great Hollywood blockbuster. [...]

Hesham Islam is a native Arabic speaker, a Muslim, born in 1959 in Cairo and schooled in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. In 1980 he immigrated to the U.S. From 1985-2005 he served in the U.S. Navy, rising to the mid-level officer rank of commander. At some point after former defense-industry executive Gordon England joined the Bush administration as secretary of the Navy, in 2001, Islam went to work on his staff. In 2005, when England, after a stint in Homeland Security took over from Paul Wolfowitz in the Defense Department’s number two slot of deputy secretary, Islam came with him.

In England’s office, Islam’s official title is special assistant for international affairs. In that capacity he pops up as a man-about-town in Washington, making the rounds of embassies. But Islam also works as England’s point man for Pentagon outreach programs to Muslim groups. These include organizations such as the Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA, with whom Islam and England have forged ties — attending ISNA conventions, and hosting ISNA delegations at Pentagon events, and in England’s office.

That’s alarming to some, such as terrorism expert Steven Emerson, executive director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, who, for more than a decade, has been tracking Islamic extremist networks in the U.S. In a recent appearance on Fox News, Emerson described Hesham Islam as, in his view, “an Islamist with a pro-Muslim Brotherhood bent who has brought in groups to the Pentagon who have been unindicted co-conspirators.”

Emerson was apparently referring to ISNA, named last summer by the Department of Justice as a member of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and an unindicted co-conspirator in the case of the Holy Land Foundation, an Islamic charity indicted in 2005 in Dallas federal court for allegedly providing millions of dollars to the terrorist group Hamas (itself an outgrowth of the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood). ISNA, in a press statement, says it “remains unjustly branded by the government as an unindicted co-conspirator.” (The Holy Land Foundation case resulted in a mistrial last fall, and is expected to be re-tried).

But whatever Emerson’s worries, Islam’s boss, Gordon England, apparently can’t praise Hesham Islam and his work enough. In public statements over the past year, England has described Islam as “my personal close confidante,” “my interlocutor,” a man who “represents me to the international community,” and “assists me in my own outreach efforts.” Photos taken on the Washington’s diplomatic reception circuit show England and Islam side-by-side, chatting up contacts. Last October, England described Islam to a Pentagon in-house reporter as a man with “wonderful friendships and relationships” which allow Islam to “give me extraordinarily good advice in dealing with countries and people.” England added, “I take his advice, and I listen to him all the time.”

Read it all. There is a great deal of revealing and disquieting information in the balance of the article about Hesham Islam, and the Pentagon itself.

Posted by Robert at January 25, 2008 11:48 AM
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The Coughlin thesis, an absolute must-read, may be accessed at

http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf

Print it. Read it. Pass it on.

Posted by: Papa Whiskey [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:06 PM

READ THE WHOLE THING. Long, but worth it.

Mr. Islam has a furtile imagination. His history has never been questioned - until now. Don't think for a moment we havn't been infiltrated.

Posted by: omvi [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:07 PM

do I hear man-love friday calling?

Posted by: John_Doe [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:08 PM

I trust somebody named "Islam" the way I trust a guy with a swastika tattooed between his eyebrows.

*~@):~{>

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:14 PM

Yep, it's love. Poor old England's got it bad for Islam.

Posted by: Dane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:28 PM

England has described Islam as “my personal close confidante,” “my interlocutor,” a man who “represents me to the international community,” and “assists me in my own outreach efforts.”

That's comforting.

England described Islam to a Pentagon in-house reporter as a man with “wonderful friendships and relationships” which allow Islam to “give me extraordinarily good advice in dealing with countries and people.”

Like obscuring the Islamic faith?

England added, “I take his advice, and I listen to him all the time.”

Ok. Get rid of England too.

Posted by: RalphInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:28 PM

Who is Hesham Islam?

He is a mole working for the Mohammedan Slave Empire.

Posted by: Stendec [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:29 PM

Claudia Rosett's article is outstanding. I particularly like the way in which she puts the lie to Hesham Islam's biographical data on the Pentagon website. I placed my own emphasis on Hesham's claim of being as a young boy growing up in Cairo, Egypt, where he huddled in terror "as Israeli bombs came raining down, demolishing much of the building around him and his family.”

The fact of the matter is, as Rosett reported, Israel did not bomb populated areas of Cairo during the Six day War. The Israeli air campaign, "Operation Focus" ("Mivtza Moked" in Hebrew), began at 07:45 on 05JUN67. The first wave concentrated IAF resources on 11 Egyptian airfields, striking the runways first with what would become known as the BLU-107 "DURANDAL" runway cratering warhead. The second wave at 09:34 concentrated on remaining Egyptian Air Force aircraft stranded on their runways. It is highly doubtful Hesham Islam's "building" was anywhere near a runway impacted by a Durandal warhead. Had it been his 7-year old recollection would surely have been ingrained by the 16 foot deep by 52 foot wide crater. As with most things said by Islamists, Hesham Islam's bio is a work of fiction propagated by the Pentagon website.

Posted by: Sean Osborne [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:30 PM

...as these buffoons were brought in as excess baggage, was any background/security checks performed....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:45 PM

I am willing to bet there are hundreds more like him all over Washington and beyond.

When will our government wake up?

Posted by: diane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:47 PM

I am willing to bet there are hundreds more like him all over Washington and beyond.

When will our government wake up?

Posted by: diane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:47 PM

Shades of Grima Wormtongue! Or Mordeith, whichever seems more appropriate.

I think someone needs to explain the word "spies" to our government, especially the pentagon.

Posted by: Gfree [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:58 PM

Islamic infiltration into the USA's political infrastructure at work and the troubling results thereof are plainly to be seen in the above article.

As is so often the case, if Americans knew what they SHOULD have known all along about Islam (instead of making baseless and often naively asinine assumptions about it as people like England continually do) this horror story at the Pentagon would not (and could not) have happened. What is particularly galling is how TOTALLY OBVIOUS that Pentagon top brass haven't so much as opened a page in the Kuran (don't they think Muslims BELIEVE what it teaches, don't they think they should know what Muslims are about...they've been at war with millions of them for years now and their nation was viciously attacked by them on 9-11).

One wonders how many more Islamic jihadists have infiltrated the fed (and how much more of this nightmare we can stomach).

One wonders,too, how many MORE 9-11's are on their way to kill our people and how many such episodes it will take to make the US government (and especially the Pentagon) comprehend that 1-) al Qaeda IS REPRESENTATIVE of Islam 2-)Islam practices deception on non-Muslims as a tactical procedure and 3-)America is a non-Muslim nation being deceived by Muslims.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 12:59 PM

Not least, as a reporter for the Armed Forces Press Service observed last year, it would make a great Hollywood blockbuster.
.................................

Yes, and if that Hollywood writer named his characters "England" and "Islam", how much jeering would there be?

The moral of the story is laid out pretty clearly, yet most people are still likely to miss it.


Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:01 PM

Islamic infiltration into the USA's political infrastructure at work and the troubling results thereof are plainly to be seen in the above article.

As is so often the case, if Americans knew what they SHOULD have known all along about Islam (instead of making baseless and often naively asinine assumptions about it as people like England continually do) this horror story at the Pentagon would not (and could not) have happened. What is particularly galling is how TOTALLY OBVIOUS that Pentagon top brass haven't so much as opened a page in the Kuran (don't they think Muslims BELIEVE what it teaches, don't they think they should know what Muslims are about...they've been at war with millions of them for years now and their nation was viciously attacked by them on 9-11).

One wonders how many more Islamic jihadists have infiltrated the fed (and how much more of this nightmare we can stomach).

One wonders,too, how many MORE 9-11's are on their way to kill our people and how many such episodes it will take to make the US government (and especially the Pentagon) comprehend that 1-) al Qaeda IS REPRESENTATIVE of Islam 2-)Islam practices deception on non-Muslims as a tactical procedure and 3-)America is a non-Muslim nation being deceived by Muslims.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:04 PM

I have written two letters over the pat two and a half weeks to my Congressman from Massachusetts regarding this subject and have gotten no reply. Next week I will call his office directly and if i draw a blank I will go once again to my newspaper laying out the subversion of our national security and our honorable Congressman's willingness to do nothing.

For some reason "Rasputin" seems to be coming into my mind. I don't know if it came from a childhood puppet play I saw whereby the devoted advisor was draining the life out of the king in hopes of obtaining control of the country.

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:13 PM

So it looks like the Pentagon has got a Rasputin in it.

Posted by: Vince [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:29 PM

I emailed this letter to my senators (McCain, Kyl) and representative (Shadegg) this morning. Kyl is the ranking republican on the Terrorism, Technology & Homeland Security Subcommittee, so maybe he will listen.

Bring Back Stephen Coughlin as Pentagon Advisor!!!

Also, investigate why Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England fired Coughlin based on the insistence of England's aide Hesham Islam. I suspect Islam is working to undermine our "War on Terror" which we now realize is a "War on Islamofascism." Coughlin is trying to educate the DoD on the true nature of our enemy which is long overdue and critical to our war effort. When reading the bio of Islam at the DoD wedsite, his relationship to England seems rather more than that of an aide. Here are some links:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=47795

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTQ1ZjE0MWZlYWI2ODVjYzU3MjcyZjBkMzcxNzBjNTQ=

I am a homemaker living in your district and even I can see that Islam is not the so-called "Religion of Peace" Thanks for looking into this matter.

Posted by: TheVeiledThreat [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:30 PM

"Mr. Islam has a furtile imagination."
-- from a posting above

No doubt it has something to do with that Furtive Crescent.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:40 PM

Come on, everyone knows, cause Tariq Ramadan told us in the NYT book review essay that you can't do a background check on a Muslim unless you have a PHD in Arabic.

Posted by: Aunt Bea [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:40 PM

From the DOD link:

The movie would open with Islam as a young boy growing up in Cairo, Egypt, huddling in terror as Israeli bombs came raining down, demolishing much of the building around him and his family.

Next would be the scene of the teenager who moves to Iraq when his Egyptian naval officer father is transferred to help establish the Arabian Gulf naval academy Islam would later attend.

The camera would then close in on a young merchant mariner adrift for three days in the Arabian Sea after an Iranian torpedo sunk his 16,000-ton cargo ship, drowning all but Islam and four of his crewmates.

Next viewers would see the young man, who after corresponding with an American pen-pal for more than three years, dares ask for the photograph that leaves him smitten with his future wife.

Well done Claudia Rosett for fact-checking this biography. It appears to all be a lie.

The only good news is that military servicemen have to be getting sick and tired of the wishful pandering that is getting good men killed.

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:48 PM

Briars: Looks like we thought of the same thing at the same time. lol

Posted by: Vince [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 1:50 PM

England has described Islam as “my personal close confidante”

Shades of the Hillary/Huma "relationship"...

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 2:02 PM

Mr. England's new faith is Islam, and he does not need to proclaim it, which is not unusual.

Posted by: ssa [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 2:26 PM

Well, I'm gonna stick my neck out. Here goes:

"If you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman."
-- Margaret Thatcher

Claudia Rosett demonstrates the ability for detail, memory and tenacity that only a woman can possess. She is extraordinary and a patriot. She has helped our wonderful fellas at the Pentagon find their butts in the dark - which is what women everywhere do for men every day.

Sorry guyz - you are all great but men and women have different talents. And if a woman wants to dig up the truth, SHE WILL!

And this is why I don't assume that Islam will ultimately conquer the west; when gals like Calamity Claudia can get out there in her hat and corsette with her rifle and give those goofy toothed sheiks what for right along side her American brothers, while the Mooslam hairy hoards keep their best asset beaten down, mutilated, locked up and resentful.

Moos don't have a chance without their women helping. Hesham Islam never saw this inquiry coming.

Kudos to Claudia! Kudos to Sue Myrik! Go get em, grlzz!

Posted by: rishika [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 2:27 PM

That's the problem with personal relationships. Many people have close associations with members of the Muslim faith. Like a DA or detective, people in government are vulnerable to letting these associations lead them down the wrong path. Since there are so many "good" Muslims whom they know personally, those who make assertions about the danger Islam poses to Western freedom are seen as the ignorant or provocative ones.

Maybe the problem is Gordon England. His personal and long-standing relationship with Hesham Islam has left him incapable of rendering objective judgments. He should be moved to a position where the issue of Islam (the belief system) doesn't come up. His associate can follow him.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 2:30 PM

I haven't been able to make the link work to get me to the National Review article - but I gather that Claudia Rosett has been able to discover that the bio of 'Hesham Islam' is about as truthful as was, say, Edward Said's own bio of Edward Said?

Lies. In the end, they can't hide the lies. And where there's one, or two, or three lies, those lies may be threads leading to other lies.

I hope Claudia Rosett is watching her back, though.

Further thought: Australia, Canada, NZ, UK and other 'western' countries should be looking to see whether they have a 'Hesham Islam', or two, or three, or four, or more, 'planted' in plain sight in their own Defence departments, Intelligence, Homeland Security, etc.


Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 2:38 PM

When will our government wake up?
Posted by: diane

When the rest of the West wakes up.

Why should a government go against the flow, against the grain, of the mainstream? Ergo, it's reasonable to assume the mainstream is also asleep about the dots connecting "extremist Muslims" and Islam itself.

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 2:48 PM

From the article:

[Islam has] an M.A. in national-security affairs, awarded in 1992 at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif. For this degree, Islam wrote a 139-page thesis about the Middle East, entitled “Roots of Regional Ambition.” In it, he devoted dozens of pages to lambasting Israel, and the influence of American Jews on U.S. politics. He deplored “Israeli activities which have detrimentally affected U.S. objectives but which have continued with impunity.” He argued that U.S. support for Israel “has negatively affected the attainment of U.S. objectives in the Middle East.” He blamed the influence of American Jews on U.S. policy for a host of ills, ranging from Arab “retaliation” against Americans, to jobs lost overseas, to hampering sales of “defensive arms to friendly Arab states.”

Whether Gordon England (or Defense Secretary Robert Gates, for that matter) considers such views a relevant qualification for Islam’s current duties is unclear. But what’s emerging at the Pentagon is a landscape in which Stephen Coughlin’s insistence on crafting doctrine based not on politically correct assumptions, but on facts, is apparently deemed a bridge too far.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:04 PM

“Since 9/11, I no longer have a land line. I only work with my cell phone, because I got a lot of hate messages on the phone.”
-Mr. Islam in 2007, setting up his future EEOC action

And here’s a picture of Mr. Islam, fat and happy in his government cubicle, with a land line right next to a picture of him with his son dated 2005:

http://www.defenselink.mil/dodcmsshare/newsstoryPhoto/2007-10/hrs_heshamIslam.JPG

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:13 PM

I said it before, background checks for security clearances to work for corporate Walmart are better.

Posted by: Aunt Bea [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:26 PM

I just emailed all of my representatives at the Congressional level, requesting that an investigation into the dismissal of Stephen Coughlin as well as the background of Hesham Islam be launched. We'll see what type of response I get back.

Posted by: SouthParkConservative [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:29 PM

http://www.stormingmedia.us/keywords/ARABS-4.html
http://www.stormingmedia.us/82/8237/A823752.html

Islam's these appears to be one of few not available on this site.

The Roots of Regional Ambitions
Authors: Hesham H. Islam; NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL MONTEREY CA

Abstract: The Persian Gulf area is vital to United States national interest, because oil is essential to America's economy. 60% of world's oil production comes from the Persian Gulf, and the U.S. consumes 10% of this oil. A series of potential threats in the region can draw the world into confrontation. Inter- Arab politics and the Arab-Israeli conflict are two major threats that jeopardize U.S. national objectives and continue to reduce the possibility of regional stability. These threats are core issues in the Baathi ideology which is essential to the Iraqi regime. The Iraqi Arab Baath Socialist Party programs and ideology provide a source of energy to Inter-Arab politics and the Arab- Israeli conflict in the region. Although the United States with its regional allies may be capable of ousting Saddam Hussein, the analysis provided in this thesis indicates that without fundamental changes in the Iraqi Baath regime, the 1990 Gulf War is unlikely to be the last conflict between Iraq and neighboring Gulf States.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:31 PM

Found it:

http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA257328&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

Approved by:
Glenn E. Robinson, Thesis Advisor
David B. Wintirford, Second Reader
Thomas C. Bruneau, Chairman, Department of National Security Affairs

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:40 PM

pez said

And here’s a picture of Mr. Islam, fat and happy in his government cubicle, with a land line

Good catch. And is there some cell-phone-only technology that I don't know about that blocks "hate messages"? Now that he switched to a cell-phone, everyone sends him love messages? The logic escapes me.

Maybe he shouldn't have given out his land-line number to his co-religionists.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:42 PM

Excellent job by Claudia Rosett to dig into Hesham Islam's "past".

I earlier questioned how being terrified in a bombing raid by Israel, or having his ship torpedoed by Iran, would justify his setting U.S. policy vis-a-vis Islam (the religion). I didn't think to question whether either of those incidents actually happened. Mea culpa.

It is a constant learning process, learning not to assume a single thing they say is true without independent verification. The effortless brazeness of the lies is what catches you off-guard.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 3:52 PM

Bin Laden's right-hand man, Ali Mohamed, an Egyptian so-called "American" who supervised bin Laden's cruicial moves of 1991 and 1996, and who got him together with Iran and Hezbollah, served with US Army Special Forces, got security clearance there and was sending classified documents to al-Qaida jihadis. He also lectured US troops on Islam.
Ramadan Shallah, the top leader of the genocidal Islamic Jihad, was repeatedly invited to lecture on Islam at MacDill Air Force base in Tampa, FL, the headquarters of CENTCOM, which is in charge of "the war on terrorism". No wonder its chief, Gen. Anthony Zinni (Anal al-Ziyna as I call him) had forcefully intervened to sabotage a clear-shot opportunity to kill bin Laden on Dec. 20, 1998.
The FBI, the only part of the US government remotely capable of acting against jihadis, has its entire interpreters' department heavily dominated by rabidly anti-American Islamists who deliberately slow the work down and provide false translations. Read "Infiltration" by hero Paul Sperry on that: Sibel Edmonds, the only honest Muslim among the translators who blew the wistle on the saboteaurs, was fired from her job for that.
Now, we have someone like Hesham Islam running things at the Pentagon.
With rot that heavy at the highest levels of the US government and military, no wonder it is spreading down into the citizenry, with cowardly American jurors acquitting jihadi after jihadi after jihadi.
The latest calamity is now emerging in Florida of Tampa, Shallah and al-Arian infamy: Rudy Giuliani, the only man capable of saving us from all that has now dropped down to the 3rd place according to the latest polls, with the crazy John McCain leading. It looks that Florida Republicans are about to match the horrible blunder of the Democrat primary voters who rejected the great Henry "Scoop" Jackson and nominated Carter instead 32 years ago. The "Sunshine State" is about to extinguish the last ray of hope that we still have for this country. The Florida Republicans are about to screw us all up.

Russlan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 4:07 PM

Being Yasir Arafat: A Portrait of Palestine's President
Glenn E. Robinson
From Foreign Affairs, November/December 2003
Published by the Council on Foreign Relations
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20031101fareviewessay82613a/glenn-e-robinson/being-yasir-arafat-a-portrait-of-palestine-s-president.html

He is neither a Marxist believing in the efficacy of class struggle nor an Islamist advocating an austere view of the good polity nor even a true revolutionary nationalist in the mold of his own hero, Gamal Abdel al-Nasser, Egypt's nationalist president. Instead, Arafat appears to be someone who believes simply that his national group has superior claims to a small patch of land and who is dedicated to defeating those he sees as usurpers.

Teaching Civil-Military Relations
Thomas C. Bruneau
http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itps/1104/ijpe/bruneau.htm#note

In the area of counter-terrorism policy and strategy, the Center has created programs that emphasize how to implement these policies effectively while simultaneously strengthening democratic processes and culture. Of particular emphasis is the theme of reforming intelligence policies and processes. The Center has taken the lead in U.S. graduate-level education and training for stability or peace support operations. Three dozen nations, for example, are receiving education about the most current doctrine and peacekeeping methods through the Enhanced International Peacekeeping Initiatives program. The United Nations provides the doctrine, and the Center contributes to its formulation.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 4:10 PM


It all adds up...
From above: Islam as, in his view, “an Islamist with a pro-Muslim Brotherhood bent who has brought in groups to the Pentagon who have been unindicted co-conspirators.”

Also from above: England has described Islam as “my personal close confidante,” “my interlocutor,” a man who “represents me to the international community,” and “assists me in my own outreach efforts.”
England described Islam to a Pentagon in-house reporter as a man with “wonderful friendships and relationships” which allow Islam to “give me extraordinarily good advice in dealing with countries and people.
England added, “I take his advice, and I listen to him all the time.”

With these two descriptions I thee wed.
It's a guarantee that England has uttered 'Shahada once, he may have said Shahada twice,
he acts a lot, like he said Shahada thrice.
Three sayers are the possessed by dark forces.
England sounds acts more like a man possessed by Dracula than a gov official. We should nic name him 'Renfield'. So far I don't think England has eaten any spiders, but we should keep our eye on him, just in case he starts...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 5:05 PM

Wikipedia:

72nd Secretary of the Navy
England was a controversial choice for Secretary of the Navy due to his lack of any military service experience and his long career in the defense industry including his most recent appointment as Executive Vice President of General Dynamics Corporation. Critics such as William D. Hartung, Head of the Arms Trade Resource Center, felt that it was inappropriate to appoint businessmen whose companies would be the prime benefactor of any increase in defense spending. U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld however had decided to make corporate experience one of the key requirements in his appointees as was reported in the Washington Times. This policy led to England's appointment alongside other leading industrialists including James Roche and Thomas E. White. England was sworn in on May 24, 2001. He is reported in the Washington Post as having announced that one of his key aims in the role was the development of "futuristic weapons to counter new types of threats emerging in the post-Soviet world."

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 5:29 PM

From the article

[Islam has] an M.A. in national-security affairs, awarded in 1992 at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif. For this degree, Islam wrote a 139-page thesis about the Middle East, entitled “Roots of Regional Ambition.” In it, he devoted dozens of pages to lambasting Israel, and the influence of American Jews on U.S. politics. He deplored “Israeli activities which have detrimentally affected U.S. objectives but which have continued with impunity.” He argued that U.S. support for Israel “has negatively affected the attainment of U.S. objectives in the Middle East.” He blamed the influence of American Jews on U.S. policy for a host of ills, ranging from Arab “retaliation” against Americans, to jobs lost overseas, to hampering sales of “defensive arms to friendly Arab states.”

------------------------------------

It seems that had Hitler been born 80 years later, and studied at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California, he would have got a first class honours degree for writing Mein Kampf.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 5:34 PM

A poster above mentions Sibel Edmonds, the young Turkish female translator for the FBI who whistleblew on corruption in the FBI's language translation unit, then got punished for it.

Her supervisor, Mike Feghali, according to Paul Sperry, is "a naturalized U.S. citizen from Beirut...in charge of the FBI's Turkish and Farsi desks."

Edmonds claims that "Feghali threatened to sue the bureau for racial discrimination, but dropped the suit once the bureau promoted him..."

Now Feghali "runs the all-important Arabic desk, which is key to intercepting the next al-Qaida plot."

[Not sure if this Mike Feghali character is Muslim, or "Islamochristian".]

Edmonds also alleged that her Lebanese-American boss "recruited family and friends to work with him at the high-paying language unit..."

Also, Sperry describes Sibel Edmonds as "a Turkish-American who is not a practicing Muslim..."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={352A2A6C-8F62-4891-ACAE-F3F016F25EC4}

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 5:53 PM

Enragedsince1999:
Giuliani screwed himself by ignoring the earlier primaries and placing his eggs in Florida. So now that will leave us with the potential choices of the mouse in sheep's clothing(McCain) or the "conservative" from "Taxachusetts". Since my boy bowed out, that leaves Giuliani as the only Republican that comes close to my views. And if he quits after Florida, I am talking MASSIVE conundrum for this voter. And with all the issues with infiltration and the saudi-aires, I don't see many other options.

Posted by: Kevin [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 6:08 PM

I once worked in Silicon Valley with a young Bahraini man named Islam. He'd anglicized his moniker to "Lance"!

I always kinda wondered what Kipling would have made of that. The present England-Islam situation sounds like something Rudyard wouldn't want to handle.

Posted by: skevin [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 6:36 PM
And here’s a picture of Mr. Islam, fat and happy in his government cubicle, with a land line right next to a picture of him with his son dated 2005:

http://www.defenselink.mil/dodcmsshare/newsstoryPhoto/2007-10/hrs_heshamIslam.JPG

Notice the security screen. Why in such a secure place would he be concerned about other seeing what he types?

Posted by: Greg Z [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 7:38 PM

Greg,

Well, at least he doesn't seem to know how to program a universal remote control; how dangerous could he be?

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 7:56 PM

... And if he quits after Florida, I am talking MASSIVE conundrum for this voter. And with all the issues with infiltration and the saudi-aires, I don't see many other options.

Posted by: Kevin at January 25, 2008 6:08 PM

Kevin,

At the end of the day, with golbal jihad on all our minds, the choice is still going to be pretty simple. You can vote for an admittedly flawed Republican candidate (fill in a name) or you can vote for one of two Democratic candidates. One Democratic candidate has an ex president for a husband whose presidential library received some $10 million in Saudi funding. She is purpoted to have as her top advisor a Muslim woman who may also be her lover. The other Democratic candidate, what was that middle name of his?, kinda reminds me of the dearly departed Irag Bloodlord, ... oh yea, Hussein, ... attended a Muslim school as a child. He attends a church with a black supremacist pastor. I just can't see pulling that Democrat lever, can you?

Posted by: Paleologos [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 8:24 PM

After reading through the comments, I was reminded of a LINK that was posted a week or two ago on JW. It was written by a soldier in Iraq dealing with the natives. The bottom line was that everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) is lying all of the time. So anyone from the middle east tells, writes or communicates anything (including who his mother is) you got to question half and know the other half is a lie.

I Photoshoped the image of Mr.Islam and noticed two post-a notes. On has 'Oct 29" penciled on it. The other says 'Not Policy'. Now I don't have a clue what the second means but my imagination quickly leaps to Couglins report. What were the dates that this started occurring?

John 8:44
For you are the children of your father the Devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. . . . There is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.

يوحنا 8:44
انت لاطفال اباك الشيطان ، وتحب ان تفعل معصيه ما يفعله. . . . ليس هناك في الحقيقة له. عندما تقع ، وهو يتسق مع شخصيته ؛ لأنه هو الكذاب والد الاكاذيب

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 9:58 PM

You can vote for an admittedly flawed Republican candidate (fill in a name) or you can vote for one of two Democratic candidates.

Paleologos,
We did that in 2000. That's how we got George W. Bush. No, thank you.
National security has a different meaning today than it did during the cold war. The size of our military matters less than our willingness to defend our borders and protect our citizens from the global jihad. What Republican do you BELIEVE on this issue?

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 10:03 PM

Who is H Islam? That's easy. He's the guy that figured out that Coughlin was more of a hindrance then a help, much like Horowitz, Epstein, Spencer & Co. Fortunately, the majority of Americans have your number as hate mongers.

I thought your news item about GM saying "NO" to America's Truth Forum was so pertinent. Even GM knows enough to stay away from religious bigotry.

Posted by: Jeffrey Carr [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 11:26 PM

Oh, the "idiots" back. That's what Robert call you.

Go away Troll!

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 11:47 PM

Hesham Islam in the Pentagon is no different from having a Gestapo officer with the name ' Hans NAZI' in high office during the second world war. Gordon England is his enabler, a corrupt cretin at worst and at best a deluded fool. Both should be tarred and feathered and detained in Gitmo till the end of their days.

This is a case of treason. Clear as daylight!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2008 11:54 PM

Mr. Carr,

It can be proven with ample evidence, based upon Islamic scriptures, ahadith, and other writings that Islam is NOT a religion. It is an ideology of violence and domination, emanating from the deeds and words of a sociopathic criminal from Mecca. I could prove this in a court of law.

Since it is not a religion in the proper sense, how can we be accused of "religious bigotry?"

I am serious about this. No joking around. I'm not trying to be flip or sarcastic. Being called an Islamophobe is actually a good thing. Fear is a natural response of a healthy human being to evil. If you do not fear evil, you are a dolt.

As a Christian, in all honesty I do not hate Muslims. I do hate the sin, which is the ideology they embrace that calls for either my submission, death, or consignment to the inferior status of a dhimmi.

al illah is not the Lord God Creator of the universe, the Father of Jesus, and Yahweh, the one who brought the Israelites out of slavery. al illah is a terrible symbolic representation of all the worst in Arabian culture: murder, theft, rapine, spoliation, and subjugation of women.

Only moral reprobation and intellectual torpor can block the recognition of these things.

Posted by: FredIsinglass [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 12:20 AM

PMK,

I have been very unhappy with Bush on the border issue. But again, do you think a Gore or Kerry would have done any better? I don't.

When it comes to fighting the global jihad, I am just not convinced that Clinton or Obama "get" it. I think Thompson gets it, but his campaign is over, same for Tancredo. I think Romney gets it to some extent; I think he is still the only remaining candidate to use the "J" word. Rudy gets it, but his candidacy is on the ropes. McCain may make a good warrior president, but there was his support for the amnesty bill. So, I have no perfect candicate. I just know I will vote any Republican over Obama or Clinton. Democrats have not had a viable warrior president since JFK.

Posted by: Paleologos [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 12:44 AM

Fred Isinglass: Your denial of Islam as a religion doesn't make it so. There's ample evidence that Christianity is nothing more than an amalgam of older pagan religions and Judiaism. Does that mean it's OK to reject it as a fake religion? I'm guessing that your answer to that is NO! So your religion, Fred, is a glass house. Don't throw stones at Islam if you don't want your religion to be criticized or mocked.

Face it, Fred. You've tied your cart to a wagon train of haters. Jesus must be so proud of you.

Posted by: Jeffrey Carr [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 3:45 AM

Enragedsince1999: Fine post.

Diane:"I am willing to bet there are hundreds more like him all over Washington and beyond."

Maybe 1,000s.

Diane:"Yep, it's love. Poor old England's got it bad for Islam."

Har di har.

It certainly seems that way. But which is Mr England and which is Mr Islam? I think we should be told

http://rateyourmusic.com/misc/link_image?album_id=159797&image_hotlinked

From the header:"Emerson described Hesham Islam as, in his view, “an Islamist with a pro-Muslim Brotherhood bent who has brought in groups to the Pentagon who have been unindicted co-conspirators.”

At first, this story is just so jaw droppingly surprising, but, when it's realised that many Western countries have been more than happy to use the MB for their dirty work -UK, Germany and US are the chief villains- then it becomes oh so obvious.

Two years before 911, in Kosovo, and the NATO Armed Forces were more than happy to train several 100 MB/Mujahideen. They were so highly trusted they were given the job of finding bomb targets for the air force.

So, is it surprising? Not in the least. Is it disgusting? Absolutely.

For example, how many operations in Iraq and Afghanistan have been FATALLY compromised by this 5th column?

It's not a case of "if" the armed forces have been infiltrated but "to what extent"

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 4:29 AM

So, in summary,

a) A guy with Muslim Brotherhood leanings has huge power in the US Armed Forces

b) His biography is a piece of fiction up there with Harry Potter and his magical friends

c) Bloggers in the furthest reaches of Blog-o-land are more concerned than senior officials at the Pentagon to points a) and b)

d) The gentleman has been using his power to recruit family and friends into plush and powerful positions

e) Pentagon officials neither know nore care about his fictitious c.v.

f)Bloggers in the furthest reaches of blog-o-land seem more concerned than US Generals.

g) A highly intelligent individual, Stephen Coughlin, writes a thought provoking paper that talks with reality as opposed to wishful thinking somewhere over the rainbow in cloud cuckoo land.

h) He gets sacked, his reputation ruined, drummed out of the office, keel hauled, hung, drawn and quarterd.

i)Bloggers in....blah di blah di blah di blah

j) I suggest we all start pooling our cash so we can afford a white flag. It's all over folks.

This debacle, however, does show where the nonsense of "Operation Iraqi Freedom" and the "Operation Cheesy Name For Democracy in Afghanistan" came from.

"Geee. If we give 'em DemAAAAAcracy and give 'em tons of cash, they'll luuuurrve us"

I fear we're doomed

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 5:58 AM

Hesham Islam's official title is special assistant for international affairs under Deputy SECDEF Gordon England.

“Like the United States, Israel is a country founded and developed by immigrants from many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds. Yet, unlike the U.S., Israel is a country with a democratic political system only for the Jewish population in Israel while the Israeli Arabs continue to be treated as second class citizens.”

Hesham H. Islam, Lt. USN
Thesis: The Roots of Regional Ambitions
Naval Postgraduate School
December 1992

With a 100+ page thesis filled with bald-faced lies and other assoted al-Ikhwan al-Mulimuun agitprop Lt. Hesham H. Islam was awarded a masters degree in national-security affairs from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School?

Only in America...

Posted by: Sean Osborne [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 5:58 AM

If the infiltration is as bad as it seems to be and if the Dhimmification is as bad as it seems to be then it does help to explain why the infidel groups in Iraq have been given no help by the US forces. Under Saddam many infidels, Christians, etc held senior positions. I think the deputy PM was a churchgoing Christian. At least one senior Air Force General, blah blah blah. The poor sods are almost as doomed as the Infidels in Kosovo.

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 6:28 AM

I wonder, what are the links, if any, between these characters and

a) Grover Norquist's efforts to enlist the Muslim electorate in the 2000 election fo the GOP. In that election, the Muslims, I'm pretty sure, voted Republican in overwhelming numbers. Norquist wanted a balance to the Jewish/Democrat link and so went after the Muslims. He bragged that it was this that won the election, I seem to recall

b) Operation Green Quest. I'll look up the articles, but the investigators talked of huge obstacles being placed in their path by other US Gov't officials and of themselves being followed. Loftus has done a lot about this. He worked very closely with the investigation, in fact I think it was his persistence that got the whole thing running. The Saudi influence all but blocked the operation.

c)The indoctination -that's the only way to describe it- that US troops had when they were in Saudi Arabia for the 91 Gulf War. The Saudis used the opportunity to preach to the GIs the wonders of the KSA and Islam. Most Generals were too naive to know what was going on, but one in particular, forgot his name, saw it for the disgusting spectacle it was and went ballistic. Made a real fuss about it. Some of the Wuslims in the Armed Forces were turned then in KSA and ended up committing treason against their comrades.

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 6:58 AM

'jeffrey carr'

You appear to condemn as 'hate speech' every least attempt to criticise the tenets of Islam.

What's wrong with calling Islam 'a fake religion'? Fred gave his reasons for so doing: chief among them was the following "It is an ideology of violence and domination, emanating from the deeds and words of a sociopathic criminal from Mecca. I could prove this in a court of law". Nothing in that statement derives necessarily from Fred's Christianity - an atheist or agnostic could have reached that conclusion also, merely by coolly examining the contents of the Muslim 'sacred' texts.

Now: what if someone else - not a Christian, like 'Fred Isinglass', but, perhaps, an atheist or an agnostic - also called Islam "a fake religion"? And cited, as evidence, Islam's moral bankruptcy and exaltation of violence.

What would you say to *them*?

Now, I have five questions for you, to do with freedom of speech and freedom of religion: please answer each of them with a straight Yes or No. Just Yes or No will do.

1. Should Archbishop Rowan Williams sack Bishop Nazir-Ali? - Yes, or No, Mr 'Carr'?

2. Should Bishop Patrick Sookhdeo be prosecuted for 'hate speech', on account of his book "Islam in Britain"? - Yes, or No, Mr 'Carr'?

3. Should a Muslim be free to convert out of Islam to any other faith, or to a position of no faith, without fear of *any* punishment whatever? Just to clarify: should a Muslim be able to, for example, seek baptism in a Christian church, without subsequently experiencing death threats and other forms of bullying, from the Ummah? Yes - or No?

4. Should any non-Muslim - of any non-Muslim religion, or of no religion - be free to discuss, question, criticise, and indeed, yes, even mock, laugh at or satirise, the tenets of Islam, without fear that they might suffer the fate of Theo Van Gogh?. Yes, or No, Mr 'Carr'?

5. Mr 'Carr': Should a theatre company in a western country be able to perform Voltaire's classic play, "Mahomet: or, Fanaticism", unhindered, unbowdlerised, and without fear? Yes - or No?


Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 7:34 AM

A blog about the financing of Islamist Terror.

http://jcb.blogs.com/

By the outstanding Mosnieur Brisard

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 7:39 AM

I have been very unhappy with Bush on the border issue. But again, do you think a Gore or Kerry would have done any better? I don't.

Paleologos,

I expected Bush to do better. Throughout his adminstration I have seen no indication that any Republican except Tom Tancredo would do any better but he took that choice away from us. The real question is: could a Gore or Kerry have done any worse? I won't be scared into voting for any Republican. Biden quit and I won't vote for any Democrat in the race right now. That leaves staying home or finding a third way. I choose the latter. I made that choice in 2004 and I will continue to do so as long as neither of the major parties offers candidates I can support. The idea that voting for a third party is pointless is a self-defeating proposition. Unless and until we voters let the major parties know that they need to answer to us then they will go on about their business. As long as THEY think they're the only game in town we will continue to get screwed. It's up to us as voters to show them we have alternatives.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 8:24 AM

RETURN OF THE BANDWIDTH BEGGAR:

"Who is H Islam? That's easy. He's the guy that figured out that Coughlin was more of a hindrance then a help, much like Horowitz, Epstein, Spencer & Co. Fortunately, the majority of Americans have your number as hate mongers. I thought your news item about GM saying "NO" to America's Truth Forum was so pertinent. Even GM knows enough to stay away from religious bigotry."

Wow, you've dropped the line about Coughlin's credentials. Perhaps you've now read this thesis? If so, are you finally willing to discuss it? Care also to discuss Hesham's potentially fraudulent C.V., since you like credentials so much, or perhaps compare the quality of research in Hesham's thesis (less than half the length and reads like Newsweek; did you see the multiple footnotes referencing "Professor Said"?) vs. Coughlin's?

Regarding GM, Robert estimated them as globalist bet hedgers. Can you show where they have declared the Truth Forum to be "religious bigotry"? That would be significant and could help justify your existance.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 12:50 PM

Who is H Islam? That's easy. He's the guy that figured out that Coughlin was more of a hindrance then a help, much like Horowitz, Epstein, Spencer & Co. Fortunately, the majority of Americans have your number as hate mongers.

I thought your news item about GM saying "NO" to America's Truth Forum was so pertinent. Even GM knows enough to stay away from religious bigotry.
Posted by: Jeffrey Carr

Nope. They are afraid , Mr. Carr. Afraid. They know if one crosses islam, there will be violence.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 1:18 PM

"Even GM knows enough to stay away from religious bigotry.

Posted by: Jeffrey Carr"

...more like trying to save the innocent lives of its employees worldwide (including many thousands in Muslim countries) who would be at the mercy of violent Muslims who would attack and kill as many as possible (it would not matter that many of the employees are Muslims) and who at the same time would try to destroy the factories or riot around the companies facilities eliminating those incomes earned by the factory workers to maintain a lifestyle that may include having a roof over the head, groceries in the house, clothes to wear, maybe some nice clothes or other pleasantries such as a cell phone, a tv or even an automobile....


....destroy, riot, kill....it is what Islam does when someone disagrees with them...

...with Islam it is my way or no way...

....Ban Muslim Immigration...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 1:47 PM

jeffrey carr;

If you are so worried about Christian 'hate', then how do YOU feel about the Kuranic passage Surah 9.5: "And when the forbidden months have passed, slay the infidels everywhere they are found; besiege them, capture them, torture them; prepare every strategem of warfare against them; levy the tax upon their conversion tot he ways of al-lah?"

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 2:00 PM

pythagoras,

Or my favorite accompanying verse 2:191: “And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter…”.

This they use to justify killing even in the "forbidden months" (ah, Allah, most gracious and merciful so as to forgive breaking his commands), for any claim of perceived "persecution", which they may define as even the lack of preferential treatment.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 2:17 PM

Concerned Citizen:

I would prefer Mr. Carr himself to answer my question about the teaching contained in the Kuran's Surah 9.5 verse here as he is the person at this blog who continues to use the hollow anti-"hate" argument to defend Islamic doctrine and practices.

NOW---


MY personal "favorite" (sic) Kuranic verse is al-lah's telling Muhammad that "I have been made victorious through terror." (al-lah evidently is a terrorist).

What I am driving at here, Concerned Citizen,is that what Mr. Carr simply won't admit is that Islam teaches first degree murder and by defending Islam unconditionally as Carr does here, he is actually defending and enabling the practice of first degree murder (at least when it is practiced by Islam). And, mind you, this is not about hate--this is about pure logic.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 2:37 PM

Pythagoras,

Didn't mean to step on your toes. I agree with your point, but from prior dealings with this character (same thread in which he was accompanied by his sock puppet, "johnnah"), I believe you are too far in front of Mr. Carr. As another poster put it, he won't "allow that question to be asked, much less answered". At best, he will deflect with tu quoque.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2008 6:12 PM

Concerned Citizen: Mr. Carr will try to dodge our critical questions for him pertaining to Islam, sure, but he won't get away with it on my watch.

Clearly, if the man was as moral as he pretended to be in front of us, he wouldn't need to be using such slippery diversionary tactics, now would he???

Jeffrey Carr is a phony moralist: all that remains is to smoke him out and hold his sham up to the light for all to gawp at in horror.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2008 1:41 PM

pythagoras

Awww mannn. You didn't hear? Carr got canned a day before you posted. Check it out above--"Stephen Coughlin and three views on jihad." Sorry you missed The Final Showdown, pyth. Carr was his big-mouthed empty-talking self to the end. See for yourself, then read the postmortems.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2008 8:51 PM
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