Tiny minority of extremists is right....

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at January 28, 2008 9:12 AM

"The people of Jordan are with Hamas"

Sure, Jordan is the Pals country.

Posted by: Sounder at January 28, 2008 9:30 AM

"The people of Jordan are with Hamas"...

I would think so, after all they all read the same books, and belong to the same club.

Posted by: duh_swami at January 28, 2008 9:36 AM

The people of Jordan are also 60% 'Palestinian refugees'. Jordan is only allowed to exist on the sufferance of certain other Kings (who we must remember were crowned by the West and given home-made countries).

Posted by: poetcomic1 at January 28, 2008 9:59 AM

"""Oh Hamas hit them with al-Qassam rockets ... bring the suicide bombers to Tel Aviv ,"

....I guess the Muslims would rather just kill em all before ever trying to talk and strive for peace....

....Muslims posters from time to time arrive falsly claiming Israel is the one doing the violence....apparently they never listened or observed their own people....

Ban Muslim Immigration..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 28, 2008 12:01 PM

Consider first that, for the most part the people of Jordan are Palestinians with asmuch to gripe about as the Palestinan refugees from Israel. So, remarking on Jordanian affirmation on the part of Palestinians is like cononizing the obvioius.
It is also not unreasable to question the Nixon Center (NC)as being an objective voice for basing opinions or decisions. I cite the case of the bogus French Journalist they hired and promoted as a Mideast sage. http://shawmut.blogspot.com/2007/09/few-people-suffer-fools-lightly-or-so.html
I am not at poking at people or an institution that is down, but it might suit NC to step back into this dialogue with something travel posters or tour offers that won't raise issues of the credi--- no gullibility.

Posted by: Shawmut at January 28, 2008 2:14 PM

The only thing preventing a Hamas takeover of Jordan is the throne. If it were not for King Abdullah, Jordan would be just like Gaza. Yet the idiots in the West insist on bringing "democracy" to the Muslim masses. Because of this idiocy, the days of the Hashemite monarchy may be numbered.

Faced by a democratically elected parliament dominated by Islamists, the King cannot repeat his father's wise move of September 1970. That's when King Hussein moved to quash an attempt by terror organizations to overthrow his monarchy.

Nearly 10,000 militants were killed during "Black September" forcing Arafat and his minions to relocate to Lebanon. Sadly, the West would not let Lebanon follow Jordan's example and Lebanon was plunged into its subsequent nightmare. At a minimum, King Abdullah deserves our respect for maintaining peace with Israel and protecting Jordan's 300,000 Christians, despite the opposition of Jordan's Muslim majority.

However, if he is smart, he'll keep his suitcases packed and his plane fueled. He should not forget that other monarch who tried to temper Islam and was betrayed by the West, namely the late Shah of Iran. If Abdullah goes, Jordan will be a micro-Iran right on Israel's border. When that happens, the current situation in Gaza will look like child's play.

Posted by: Provoslavni at January 28, 2008 2:29 PM

The current Jordanian Queen is Palestinian. With the Hamas uprising into the Egyptian peninsula, I fear worse is to come for Israel and it's being reported they plan on doing the same incursion into an Israeli border crossing with 500,000 people.

Posted by: Bonniea at January 28, 2008 6:21 PM

So if the paleostinians are in such dire straits, why don't the Jordanian msulim brotherhood send them food and water, so they don't have to depend on the evil joos for their survival?

Israel should keep the borders (along with water and electricity) closed/cut off and let the Egyptians and Jordanians pick up the slack.

No contact between the Israelis and the Paleostinians and no one can complain that one or the other is being violent (well except for the daily rockets from Gaza, but they don't count right?)

Posted by: walterc at January 28, 2008 6:26 PM

JORDAN DID NOT EXIST AS A NATION UNTIL GREAT BRITAIN CREATED IT .IT HAS NO UNIQUE LANGUAGE OR CULTURE (INDEPENDENT OF ARAB CULTURE/LANGUAGE) - AND NO INDEPENDENT HISTORY UNTIL THEN. THE KINGDOM OF JORDAN IS A FABRICATION OF THE UNITED KINGDOM.

The King Of Hype
The King expressed his pride in every soldier and officer joining the Armed Forces. "The best day to me when I join my brothers and comrades who I spent my best life and youth", King Abdullah said. "Fathers and grandfathers offered great sacrifices to build the dear Jordan, and we will march on their steps and sacrifice for the sake of the country to complete the construction and march", King Abdullah said. "Morales are always very high and foreheads are raised, and will not bow except for God",

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2007/03/unspoken-occupation-jordan.html

Posted by: shiva at January 28, 2008 8:11 PM

bonniea -

you said "with the Hamas uprising into the Egyptian peninsula, I fear worse is to come for Israel and it's being reported they plan on doing the same incursion into an Israeli border crossing with 500,000 people".

Can you give the specific source or link for that? How credible is it?

500 000 women and kids? 500 000 suicide murderers wired up to go boom? (Those two groups are not mutually exclusive).

If this threat is credible then the IDF had better have something like an Operation Wall of Fire ready and waiting.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 28, 2008 10:18 PM

Bonniea,

Queen Rania of Jordan is a strikingly gorgeous woman who does not wear hijab. Like her husband, she is very westernized. King Abdullah's mother is a British Christian. This is another reason that Hamas and similar groups want to see them overthrown.

As for her being Palestinian, so what? All Jordanians except for the King's family are Palestinians. The British carved the Transjordanian region out of British Palestine as a consolation prize for the Hashemites after the French refused to give them Syria. Originally, the Hashemites were the Sharifs of Mecca and the kings of the Hejaz until the Wahabbis ran them out. The Brits felt like they owed the Hashemites a reward for their uprising against the Ottomans during World War I.

Since all Jordanians were originally Palestinian, that means that there already is an independent Muslim Palestinian state. If Israel had any wisdom, they'd act on this fact and expel all the Muslims from Gaza, the "West Bank" and from Isreal itself to Jordan. This would mean that historical places like Hebron and Jericho would rightfully be Jewish again, while Ramallah and Bethlehem would be returned to their original Christian inhabitants.

This would also end the controversy over the security wall as it would no longer be necessary. Instead, the Jordan River would become a more easily defendable border for Israel, giving greater security to Jews and indigenous Christians alike.

Posted by: Provoslavni at January 28, 2008 11:13 PM

"Queen Rania of Jordan is a strikingly gorgeous woman...."
-- from a poster above

On meeting such a good-looking "Arab" woman, one need not supress the urge to tell her "we in the West have all heard the stories of those Circassian and Georgian girls who were kidnapped for their beauty by the Arabs for use in their harems -- and now I know I have met one of their descendants."

A compliment, but with a telling barb attached. And, very possibly, the remark may be true.

Posted by: Hugh at January 29, 2008 1:02 AM

dumbledoresarmy, I found it on Debka.com, who gets much of their info from the Mossad. They predicted the Sinai incursion days before and I find that site to be very credible.

Posted by: Bonniea at January 29, 2008 11:44 AM

Provoslavni, Queen Rania is very pretty, but does that make her a good person? I dislike her because after 9/11, she gave a TV interview in the US blaming the attack on our support for Israel and suggested we change our foreign policy. My suggestion to her is tell her people to stop behaving like uncivilized barbarians, and maybe then, we will begin to change our policy. Palestinians are disgusting, can't be trusted, and I have no sympathy for them whatsoever. I do however, like King Abdullah as he is very westernized, modern and speaks better English than Arabic. His father was also a great man, for that region.

Posted by: Bonniea at January 29, 2008 11:54 AM

Hugh,

I agree but with one caveat. The fact that physical beauty is so prevalent in the Middle east accentuates one of the great crimes of Islam. Not only do they suppress created beauty by destroying art and forbidding music but they also cover up God's most exquisite work of art: the feminine form. True modesty complements the natural beauty of the female but hijab and purdah is not modesty. It is the same as whitewashing a classic painting.

Whether or not Queen Rania is deserving of our respect on other issues, I complement her and Abdullah for refusing to hide her physical beauty. In my opinion, she displays true modesty while the walking tents of Arabia and South Asia display only oppression.

Posted by: Provoslavni at January 29, 2008 2:32 PM

Bonnea,

You're correct. Abdullah has even displayed his westernized demeaner in brave, perhaps foolish ways. Right after he became king, he spoke to leaders of Jordan's Christian community and referred to himself as a "half-Christian".

Unlike King Hussein's last wife Queen Noor, Abdullah's mother Queen Muna (the former Toni Gardiner) did not convert to Islam but only agreed that her sons would be Muslim. Hussein's other two wives were Muslim but unlike the Saudis, he never practiced polygamy but had one wife at a time.

One can see the moderating influence that Husseins exposure to the still somewhat Christian British culture had on him. Compare the influence of these women to the late Saudi King Fahd's favorite wife Jawhara al-Ibrahim's corruption and support of terrorism.

Posted by: Provoslavni at January 29, 2008 2:44 PM

Bonniea

thanks. I know of that site but don't visit it as often as perhaps I should.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 29, 2008 7:03 PM

Bonniea

thanks. I know of that site but don't visit it as often as perhaps I should.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 29, 2008 7:04 PM