Truth hurts.

Posted by: PMK at January 30, 2008 11:28 AM

So that copy you gave me will become a collector's item? I told you I would try to learn Bahasa Jawa, Bahasa Melayu, Bahasa this and Bahasa that, in order to read it. But apparently I chose the wrong version of the local conceivable bahasas, because I still haven't managed to understand more than the title -- and even that I'm not so sure about.

Posted by: Hugh at January 30, 2008 11:40 AM

Congratulations! What an honor!

Posted by: Lori B. at January 30, 2008 11:50 AM

"Hey, what about The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)? What about The Truth About Muhammad?"

Posted by: Shy Guy at January 30, 2008 11:52 AM

The people of Malaysia SHOULD read these banned books whether they agree with their contents or not. At the very least, you need to know what the government does not want you to know.

I also do not find it odd that the Qur'an is "supposed" to be read in Arabic. This means that about 80 percent of Muslims worldwide have not even read the holy book of Islam and are dependant on Mullahs or Imans to tell them what is in the Qur'an.

We had a period of time where the Bible was only written in Latin. Then along came the printing press.

Read the Qur'an.

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

Posted by: tanstaafl at January 30, 2008 11:59 AM

MEMO TO: Malaysia
FROM: Christianland

SUBJECT: What you don't know might(will) kill you.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: n.a. palm at January 30, 2008 11:59 AM

What's banned?

Specifically: books connected Islam to terrorism and the maltreatment of women.

Or, you can do it but you CAN'T say that's what's going on.

Or, put another way, if you SAY that terrorism or the way women are treated is wrong, THAT is the real crime, because according to them it's just FINE and justified that all this happens.

'Nuther small point:

The major indication of immaturity in a child, a group, or a culture is that it cannot take criticism. It's touchy little ego is so fragile it can't have a damned conversation.

Posted by: Morgaan Sinclair at January 30, 2008 12:14 PM

The book must be too close to the truth, otherwise it would have no scrutiny at all.

Posted by: Sounder at January 30, 2008 12:44 PM

Another badge of honor for Mr. Spencer. One would think that Robert must be getting a bit top-heavy by now.

Posted by: awake at January 30, 2008 12:53 PM

sweet. a whole new list of books I need to purchase and read.

Posted by: John_Doe at January 30, 2008 1:32 PM

One title that caught my eye:

What Makes Me A Muslim by Catherine M. Petrini (KidHaven Press Farmington Hills)

As for Islam Unveiled, methinks it's the misleading cover, which suggests that it's a book on Quranic studies, rather than an analysis of the teachings of Islam that co-relate to the violent and intolerant underpinnings of Islam.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 30, 2008 1:36 PM

tanstaafl

The New Testament originally was written in Greek, the old testament in Hebrew. When Latin became a common language, it was used for reading the bible. Today, the bible is read in languages of all nations. On the other hands, today Qur’an is still kept as it was since Kalif Othman III; it’s in Quraysh. Like Sanskrit, Quraysh is totally a dead language no one uses today, not even Arabs. The Arabic Characters are still the same. When an Arab reads it, he pronounces each word perfectly, but he only produces musical tones with no meaning in Arabic, so you called it “odd,” but those who are depending on it for livelihood called it advantageous.

Muslims all over the world can tell you this verse says this, and that verse says that, but none could speak or read Quraysh.

I must admit that the prayers I used to hear five times a day blaring on loud speaks through out their land sounded beautiful and musical—of course, it’s annoying at 5 a.m. in the morning when I had to be kept awake until it was over.

If you never heard it before, rest assured, they are coming to your neighborhood. I am done with it, but it could be a nice change for most Americans.

By the way, if you have lived among them, you would know that there is not a single westerner who could sing like the Arab and Indian singers; they have the voice indeed emanates from their strong diaphragms.

Pre-Islamic Al Arab al Arabia encompassed the land extended the entire Middle-East, excluding Isreal and Persia. Al Arab al Arabia was a superpower; they were the Babylonians and Assyrians. Though the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Jewish refugees under Arab auspicious sent the Romans home crying like a baby.

Better for the west that Qur’an remains in Quraysh, lest they be your over lord.

Posted by: ssa at January 30, 2008 2:33 PM

"* What Makes Me A Muslim by Catherine M. Petrini "

ans...a whacko with a gun...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 30, 2008 3:27 PM

...Islam is serious about mind control...Muslims do not want their "believers" to have any chance of "discovering the truth about Islam" or of developing questions that would make the clerics uneasy....Muslim routinely round up "undesirable" books, burn whole libraries, jam radio and TV stations, and of course, as we know, try very hard not to allow their women go unescorted (lest they happen upon something "UnMuslim" to look at or read)....Islam is like "Big Brother" ...always watching, secret police, religious police, spies, informants, death squads....all ready to use upon those who dare to think there is something wrong in Islam.....

Muslims are a parnoid lot...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 30, 2008 3:44 PM

hmm, i guess the men and women in malaysia won't have to wait in seperate lines to buy those books afterall.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at January 30, 2008 5:47 PM

"Islam Unveiled"

Maybe they took offense to the word "Unveiled" and they think that you want to unveil their womenfolk; which if forbidden, you know.

Posted by: champ at January 30, 2008 6:07 PM

I strong suggest those who can, and desire to, go and purchase a copy of "Islam Unveiled". Mine is a first edition, my hope would be to see it go into it's seventh edition now.

Thank you Malaysia.

Thank you Robert for writing the book.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at January 30, 2008 9:28 PM

do the people of malasya have internet access where they could try to buy this covertly or can someone make photo copies with permission of course from the author, and drop leaflets over heavily populated areas like they used to do in ww2?

Posted by: zionist122 at January 30, 2008 11:11 PM

Argh. Blasted browser ate my post. I'm not gonna retype everything but here are my key points:

1. Malaysia is a multiracial, multireligious country, secular by Constitutional fiat. How well we adhere to the Constitution (supposed to be the supreme law of the land but tell that to the Shariah nuts, right?) is a different story. I myself am conservative evangelical Christian (Anglican) and Chinese by descent.

2. People are people anywhere. Bureaucrats likewise. Being a film censor has got to be the best job - you get to watch all the latest films uncut for free AND deny others that same privilege. Some tightass mid-level drone probably made the decision based on a 'by the book' approach. No need to project sinister-ness when stupidity and stubborn reactionism fills the bill, eh?

3. Politics is politics also. The govt intends to remain in power indefinitely, so controlling Islam, of which there is an officially sanction version, is important.

4. Censorship is stupid, and the government only pays lip service to it. If you have access to the Internet (preferably broadband, but we're woefully lacking in that), then, well, no censorship there. Coming back to films, piracy is rampant and you can get ANYTHING (well, black market economics, you know). I'm typing this from my office PC! (they don't filter the sites either)

5. But I think, Robert, your translator was having fun with the title, unless you told him/her to do it. In which case, man, were you trying to kill me with laughter? Calling the book

"Nudifying Islam: Subversive questions surrounding doctrines and traditions of the Muslim race/tribe"

is somewhat different from

"Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About The World's Fastest-Growing Faith"

won't you say? I couldn't stop laughing at the word picture the Indonesian version painted. I mean, you know, the connotation was that you were stripping a girl naked and, well, that doesn't fly in the culture here either. Sorta a double whammy.

Love this site, btw. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: gkong3 at January 31, 2008 12:10 AM

gkong3:

I had nothing to do with the Indonesian translation, and didn't know that was what it meant until you just told me.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at January 31, 2008 6:55 AM

Just checking the Petrini book on Amazon, it seems to present a warm and fuzzy picture of Islam suitable for grade-school children. Interesting that even when one tries to make nice with the Muhammadans, one gets banned.

Posted by: Karl Pov at January 31, 2008 10:58 AM

Interesting that even when one tries to make nice with the Muhammadans, one gets banned.

Posted by: Karl Pov at January 31, 2008 10:58 AM

Posted by: Shy Guy at January 31, 2008 12:12 PM

"Nudifying Islam: Subversive questions surrounding doctrines and traditions of the Muslim race/tribe"
- the title in Bahasa Melayu, as explained by someone in Malaysia in a posting above

"Nudifying Islam" it is then.

And perhaps, Mr. Robert Rose Selavy Spencer, you'd like in the francophone world to have that book of yours marketed under the seductive title "Islam Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors, Even."

It can be arranged.

Posted by: Hugh at January 31, 2008 10:26 PM

Robert,

ISLAM DITELANJANGI OR NUDIFYING ISLAM.

Is is a XXX rated book like the bible?

Sex in the Bible (Short List)

A man and his father will go in unto the same maid, to profane my holy name.--Amos 2:7

It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies. -- Mark Twain, Letters From the Earth

Genesis

1. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, an do ye to them as is good in your eyes. -- 19:8

2. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father .And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. -- 19:32-36

3. And Rachel said, Therefore he shall lie with thee to night for thy son's mandrakes. Thou must come in unto me; for surely I have hired thee with my son's mandrakes. And he lay with her that night. -- 30:15-16

4. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground. -- 38:9
Leviticus

5. And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even.--15:16

6. And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even.--15:17

7. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean.--15:24

8. Thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.--18:19

9. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.--18:23

10. If a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they.--20:14

11. If a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.--20:15

12. If a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.--20:16

13. And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.--20:18
Deuteronomy

14. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her .... Thou shalt go in unto her.--21:11-13

15. If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ....--22:13

16. I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid. Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city.--22:14-15

17. These are the tokens of my daughter's virginity.--22:18-21

18. But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die.--22:20-21

19. He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.--23:1

20. If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp.--23:10

21. Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her.--28:30
Judges

22. Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her.-- 16:1

23. Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.-- 19:22

24. Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you.-- 19:24

25. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning.-- 19:25
Ruth

26. I am Ruth thine handmaid: spread therefore thy skirt over thine handmaid.-- 3:9
1 Samuel

27. And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies.--18:25

28. Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.--18:27
2 Samuel

29. Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.--12:11

30. And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister.--13:11

31. Go in unto thy father's concubines, which he hath left to keep the house .... So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father's concubines in the sight of all Israel.--16:21-22
1 Kings

32. Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat. Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat.--1:1-2

33. And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines.--11:3
Proverbs

34. Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times.--5:19

35. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning.--7:18

36. The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.--20:27
Song of Solomon

37. He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.-- 1:13

38. His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me. I charge you ... that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.-- 2:6-7

39. Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.-- 4:5

40. My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.-- 5:4

41. Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.-- 7:3

42. We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts.-- 8:8

43. My breasts are like towers.-- 8:10
Isaiah

44. Therefore the LORD will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.--3:17
Jeremiah

45. Through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks..--3:9
Lamentations

46. They have seen her nakedness: yea, she sigheth, and turneth backward. Her filthiness is in her skirts.--1:8-9
Ezekiel

47. Thou hast ... madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them.--16:17

48. Thou hast ... opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.-- 16:25

49. Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms.-- 16:26

50. Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because hou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied.-- 16:28

51. They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom.-- 16:33

52. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. -- 23:20
Amos

53. A man and his father will go in unto the same maid, to profane my holy name.--2:7
Habakkuk

54. Drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered.--2:16
Matthew

55. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.--19:12
Revelation

56. She made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.--14:8

57. The great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.--17:1-2

58. All nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.--18:3

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