The film will be shown in March. The "outrage", riots, burnings, bombings and deaths will no doubt start much sooner.

Go Geert! He's already standing up for freedom of speech.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at February 10, 2008 8:50 AM

OH Boy, this is going to cause more trouble than cartoons or a teddy bear....I wonder how many innocent people will die over this movie? Hopefully many will wake up, from there dhimmi status and realize what this so called religion is all about....death and control.

Posted by: mountiangirl at February 10, 2008 8:53 AM

"Will international violence ensue, coupled with kowtowing and handwringing from the Western media? Or will someone, somewhere, stand up for the freedom of speech?"

I think the smart money is on option one.

Posted by: g hadi hater at February 10, 2008 8:57 AM

Really, how absurd. Islamic supremacists have established a stranglehold on Europe. They are making tremendous progress in undermining European freedom and society.

But all these people can worry about is that a Koran may be torn up or burned?

Posted by: Goob at February 10, 2008 8:58 AM

City of Amsterdam distributes disgusting flyers against Wilders

Today’s Left is worse than the Nazi’s:

http://sheikyermami.com/2008/02/10/city-of-amsterdam-distributes-disgusting-flyers-against-wilders/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 10, 2008 9:07 AM

"far-right Geert Wilders..."
-- from the article above

First he was "right-wing." Now he is described as "far-right." There is no truth to this. It is simply an epithet, thrown in, as it is thrown in before the name of anyone alarmed about Islam, including that lifelong left-wing Oriana Fallaci, and that libertine Pim Fortuyn.

Apparently, being alarmed about Islam automatically brings with it that fixed epithet, as fixed as "grey-eyed" Athena or "wily" Odysseus or "rosy-fingered" dawn. But not as a mnemonic device by oral bards of yore, in milman-parry fashion. No. Only to blacken the names of those being discussed, so that all those who do not think, but merely read and run, will assume -- quite wrongly -- that Geert Wilders and those who support him are all "right-wing" or, as we now see, "far-right."

Posted by: Hugh at February 10, 2008 9:12 AM

Wait a second, I'm confused. If Islamic terrorists are now supposed to be called 'anti-Islamic terrorists,' isn't this film pro-Islam?

Understanding today's modern world isn't a little unlike having bees live in your head... (firesign theatre circa 1971)

Posted by: Goob at February 10, 2008 9:14 AM

Contest proposal:
Guess what happens to the picture of Mo at the movie's end, and win a free book by Robert (have up to ten winners, or something like that).
I say it morphs into a portrait of Hitler.
What ho?

Posted by: jewdog at February 10, 2008 9:14 AM

from above:

Wilders' 15-minute film is almost done

Before announcing the delay for time needed to finish the film, it was initially reported to be no more than ten minutes long here.

Five more minutes . . . curious indeed . It's certainly tweeked my anticipation for the final product. GO GEERT!

Posted by: justamomof4 at February 10, 2008 9:21 AM

As an American, facing the most important presidential election in the history of our country, I would like to point out that Mr. Wilders is an enormously brave man who will be doing something for us that we are afraid to do ourselves.
That will be to bring this issue into to the light of day.
IF the media covers it.

Posted by: Aunt Bea at February 10, 2008 9:29 AM

For the opening, invite a few imams, and send them flying.

Posted by: dgene at February 10, 2008 9:29 AM

For the opening, invite a few imams, and send them flying.

Posted by: dgene at February 10, 2008 9:29 AM

Posted by: Shy Guy at February 10, 2008 9:55 AM

For those who cant wait

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fitnah&search_type=

Posted by: GrennBeck at February 10, 2008 10:04 AM

"I say it morphs into a portrait of Hitler." --posted above

Whoa! That's a good one! Oh, man, I hope Wilders is careful with himself as of course members of the religion of peace are goung to want to behead him. In the name of their "merciful and compassionate" god, allah.

Posted by: darcy at February 10, 2008 10:08 AM

When will we be able to see "Fitnah?"

Posted by: darcy at February 10, 2008 10:09 AM

Leon the Pig Farmer asks, "How does everyone feel supporting a far right European nationalists?

Just asking 'cos other European nationalists are usually branded, by jihadwatch, as neo nazi baby jew eating Dr. Strange love types."

I too have viewed this issue with some puzzlement. However, I do not believe that LGF or JihadWatch would or should or has ever done what is suggested here without any evidence to go on. And Wilders has been in the news such a long time that any fascist tendencies would have come out by now.

Just because white supremacists and neofascists are also against Muslims does not mean that we are them, nor do we support them, nor do we wish to be associated with them or have them speak at our gatherings or contribute to our blogs. They taint our cause and have no place in contemporary civilization. They and their cause must be denounced and distanced from us and ours, forcefully and consistently. They will be dealt with, in due time. Fortunately they are a small minority, but steps must be taken to assure that they do not grow in number or popularity.

Posted by: Goob at February 10, 2008 10:47 AM

shiek - what does the caption on the "6:00 Jihad News" cartoon on your site say? (too small).

Posted by: darcy at February 10, 2008 10:48 AM

"Will international violence ensue, coupled with kowtowing and handwringing from the Western media? Or will someone, somewhere, stand up for the freedom of speech?"

You can bet no politicians, religious or academic leaders will stand up for the freedom of speech. If anything, they'll label Mr. Wilder a "racist and bigot, and demand his head on a platter.

In fact, it's my bet the film will never make it to TV. The intimidation and threats will start almost immediately, and the Dutch government will invoke a hate crime law to see that it's never aired.

In the meantime the Imams will continue their hate speech against Dutch values and culture, and you won't hear a peep out of anyone.

Posted by: rational at February 10, 2008 10:50 AM

"Dutch far-right deputy Geert Wilders"

He's a Nationalist, not far right. The press are trying to brand him as some type of neo-nazi.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at February 10, 2008 10:56 AM

‘Unfortunately there are politicians who think they will become more popular by being extremely negative about certain groups of people. They think you should be able to say anything, even if it is hurtful. But this does not make things very pleasant in the Netherlands, as before you know it, they are setting one against the other’.

from the Amsterdam City Council leaflet

Unfortunately many Moslems in Amsterdam (and elsewhere in the Netherlands) are already saying very hurtful things about non-Moslems, and doing very hurtful things to them. They have already set themselves against the native Dutch. This is what their "holy books" tell them to do. The Amsterdam City Council ought to be warning against the negativeness and hurtfulness in the Koran, rather than what is in Wilders' film.

Posted by: ebonystone at February 10, 2008 11:04 AM

Ugh. I misspoke and quite grievously, being hasty and far too careless. When I said "white supremacists and neofascists are also against Muslims" I meant we are against jihadist and Islamist and Islamic supremacist Muslims, and not ALL Muslims.

I can't see the BNP or other white supremacist groups admiring Ayaan Hirsi Ali, for instance, or the many Middle Eastern former Muslims who are against the jihadists. If you go by race alone, or by Christianity alone as your litmus test, then you are closed-minded and bigoted, which we are not.

I apologize most profusely for being too casual in trying to make my point.

Posted by: Goob at February 10, 2008 11:14 AM

Shy Guy, I think (leonthepigfarmer can correct me) that leonthepigfarmer was rhetorically asking why a Geert Wilders (who by the way is often smeared in the Netherlands with quasi-Fascist suspicions, not always merely because of his scathing criticisms of Islam) gets admitted with welcoming flourishes into and past the foyer of JW, while a Filipe Dewinter get's the bum's rush (along with the firm message that unless he gets a shave and a haircut at the correct barber salon he won't have a chance of entering).

Posted by: cantor at February 10, 2008 11:24 AM

Cantor, I'm familiar with the agrument. All I can say is that Wilders can be quoted as saying:

"I find Israel sometimes listens to Europe too much. It should have intervened in Lebanon much earlier. I am more inclined to consider that Israel does not go far enough than that it goes too far."

He also did 2 years of volunteer work in Israel.

In contrast, you know that past and present images of Dewinter are not hard to find and lead to the well know disagreement about him and other. I just don't think there is any such past when talking about Wilders. Just the opposite.

Posted by: Shy Guy at February 10, 2008 11:34 AM

Islamic supremacists have established a stranglehold on Europe.

and who established what stranglehold in the US? How many want to bet that not one TV station will show the film here?

Posted by: yankee imp at February 10, 2008 11:37 AM

leonthepigfarmer:

Geert Wilders has nothing to do with the fascist or racist parties such as BNP. If Wilders did consort with those parties, Spencer wouldn´t be highlighting Wilders' film. Spencer has often made clear that he will have nothing to do with any racial or racist party.

For example, in this article Robert wrote

...groups like the BNP are taking up the slack, which cannot bode well for Britain's future in any scenario

(My bolding). In other articles Spencer speaks more in detail about his reasons for rejecting any kind of alliance with the BNP and similar parties.

Wilders is not far-right. He just insists on free speech. Because of that, the lemmings and the weaselly cowards stigmatize Wilders with the nasty far right label. Some of them are thinking something like this: "Since I publicly call Wilders far-right, everyone will know that I would never for a moment even consider that his message has any legitimacy whatsoever. So please don´t threaten me or my family, you jihadists, please don´t boycott or protest my newspaper column, you Middle Eastern mobs, please don´t fire me, boss, for infuriating the fanatics, please don´t prosecute me, pol, for being "insensitive" to the theo-fascists and their guiding book. I´m willing to go along. Let someone else protect my freedom of speech. Really, I´m rather glad about what Wilders is doing, but personally I just can´t take the risk of publicly supporting him."

Posted by: traeh at February 10, 2008 11:47 AM

"you're preaching to the choir!"

Yes, your 10:56 AM comment makes that clear. You wrote and posted it while I was writing and posting my last comment, so I didn´t see your 10:56 till too late.

Posted by: traeh at February 10, 2008 11:59 AM

yankee imp, good question.

IMO it would be the multiculturalists and the political Left, whose 'jihad' against capitalism and conservatism makes them allies of convenience with the Islamists, even if they are bipolar opposites when it comes to gays and atheists and so forth. This situation obtains also in Europe, where even some Muslims object to the multiculturalism being pushed in their name.

Many Muslims spoke out against the Archbishop's comments about Shariah in Britain, for one example.

As for your bet, I will take it. I believe there are a few editors and publishers who still value our (and their) freedoms here in America.

Posted by: Goob at February 10, 2008 12:03 PM

Goob, you said:

"When I said 'white supremacists and neofascists are also against Muslims' I meant we are against jihadist and Islamist and Islamic supremacist Muslims, and not ALL Muslims."

I realize you totally reject the white supremacists and fascists, Goob, but the language you inadvertently use there makes it sound like you count yourself part of what you call the "we" of white supremacists and neofascists.

Thought I should point that out, since fascists and racists are unwelcome here.

Posted by: traeh at February 10, 2008 12:24 PM

Let the chips fall where they may. This is exactly what the world needs more of, 'in your face', we show no fear...The more Islam is belittled, and sensibilities injured, the better...

Posted by: duh_swami at February 10, 2008 12:44 PM

How much can you do in 15 minutes?
For some reason the way this movie is being hyped makes me think it will be rather disappointing in content.
I'm getting the sense from all the media attention that millions will view this movie.
Such an opportunity doesn't come along very often to get the message out.
What if it's a non coherent argument?
What picture of Muhammed will he use?
There is so much about Islam that i highly doubt you could get it all across in 15 minutes.

Posted by: Frankish Infidel at February 10, 2008 12:45 PM

It is but God’s design that some times, He employs even Satan to get His Jobs done. I think no Muslim should be worried, whether the demons like ‘Dutch far-right deputy Geert Wilders from Netherlands’ plans to air an anti Islamic movie called “Fitna” and think that he is going to do a great job. His profane work to vitiate and his designs to blemish and tarnish the divinity- Islam will soon be realized with true colours.

It is not some thing new in the history of religions; that all the Prophets* with out any exception were mocked, jeered and persecuted. Even so much so that some of them like Jesus* was even hanged. History tells us that religion and mother lands always demanded the devotion and lives of their defenders to nurture their soils.

Islam has come to live; if it is from God; it will certainly live; may it come Hell or high waters. Case of Islam is unique; more you press it down; it will certainly spring up more gloriously and gets a new life.
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Love for all, Hatred for none

Posted by: A Khokar at February 10, 2008 12:55 PM

Love for all, Hatred for none

Posted by: A Khokar at February 10, 2008 12:55 PM

Posted by: Shy Guy at February 10, 2008 1:09 PM

Off topic...

First beheading in a western country?

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1304801,00.html

By not banning Muslim immigration this is what we import!

The Muslim problem will only get worst!

Posted by: KoranKrusher at February 10, 2008 1:19 PM

"His profane work to vitiate and his designs to blemish and tarnish the divinity- Islam will soon be realized with true colours.

Islam has come to live; if it is from God; it will certainly live; may it come Hell or high waters."

A Khokar,

This assumes that we don't already know the true colors of Islam, that the verdict is still out on its devine orgins.

The barbarism of Islamic law, its contempt for non-Muslims, oppression of women and hostility towards the enlightened ideals and principles of democracy, freedom and justice,is all the evidence we need to see its true colors, and make a determination about its divine orgins.

There is no secret to Islam's uniqueness and survival. Fear and oppression accounts for both.

Posted by: rational at February 10, 2008 1:44 PM

Perhaps Mo's image will take on a Satanic resemblance. Beneath will be pictures of hell's fire, human torment and cruelty, beheadings and stonings, burning of non Muslim houses of worship, masses of brainwashed Nazi like characters marching in rows with guns in hand topped off with the image of the two towers toppling to the earth in America.

Posted by: Briars at February 10, 2008 1:49 PM

Can we swop him with the Archbishop of Canterbury?

Posted by: Celsius at February 10, 2008 2:03 PM

Shy Guy (and others who might be ill-informed about Filip Dewinter),

Before jumping to conclusions about Filip Dewinter, consider:

The Jewish publication Haaretz wrote:

"...during recent years, Dewinter has made himself into Israel’s "No. 1 Belgian friend" and he is now interested in making an official visit."

And from that same publication, Dewinter is quoted as saying:

"I’m interested in visiting Israel," Dewinter says in the interview. "First of all, from a geopolitical point of view. We in Western Europe should realize that our allies are not in the Arab or Muslim world, but rather in Israel. This is not just because we have a common civilization and values, but also to balance out the Islamic forces in the Middle East that are getting stronger. The State of Israel is a sort of outpost for our Western society, an outpost of democracy, of freedom of speech, of protecting common values within a hostile environment. You are surrounded by Islamic states, some of them fundamentalist, which are interested in only one thing: to throw the Jews into the sea.

"I also think that Islam is now the No. 1 enemy not only of Europe, but of the entire free world."

http://www.filipdewinter.be/page.php?linkID=200

Also, before tarring Dewinter with the neo-Nazi brush, read this article from Jewish Week (I am assuming you are intelligent enough to recognize editorial remarks interspersed here and there in the article for which not a shred of substantiation is provided):

http://www.filipdewinter.be/page.php?linkID=238

And from a later interview in that same publication:

Q: It is said that your party was founded by Nazi collaborators and Holocaust deniers and that it still attracts Holocaust deniers. What is your
reaction to them in your party and the fact that it was founded by Nazi collaborators?

A: Do we attract Holocaust deniers or nazi’s? Well, sometimes a decent women attracts evil men, not because of her own deeds, but because her good name has been blackened by slander. This is our problem too: all Belgium governments have depicted us as nazi’s in their propaganda. Of course some people believe this propaganda. And of course some youths with nazi sympathies think we are their allies. But we are not. They are not welcome.

http://www.vigilantfreedom.org/910blog/2007/10/25/vlaams-belang-interview-support-for-israel-and-resistance-against-islamisation/

And from another interview in New Republic:

I want more police protection for the Jewish community, for their neighbourhoods and synagogues and schools. They are the prime targets for terrorists. A mayor is responsible for the local police force, so there I could play an important role. We need tougher legislation against terrorism and violent crime, and against the infiltration of radical Islamic groups in our inner cities, but that depends on the government in Brussels. A mayor can’t change the laws. Twenty years ago, the Jewish community in Antwerp was wealthy. The Jewish diamond trade was flourishing. Nowadays, many foreign traders are forcing the Jews out of their old economic strongholds. I have a big problem with Islam, but I have great respect for Judaism. I’m not a believer myself, but I know this: Christians and Jews built the philosophical foundations of our western civilization. If this Judaeo-Christian roots are lost, our civilization will perish.

http://www.filipdewinter.be/page.php?linkID=385

All the other parties in Belgium have organized a concerted strategy to suppress with a "cordon sanitaire" Filip Dewinter and his party the Vlaams Belang in order to try to marginalize, if not outlaw, their influence. Which fascists are we Jihad Watchers going to support -- the real ones or the unfairly labelled ones?

Posted by: cantor at February 10, 2008 2:05 PM

There is so much about Islam that i highly doubt you could get it all across in 15 minutes.

Posted by: Frankish Infidel

How much can you do in fifteen minutes? Didn't Theo van Gogh use about that much time?
You don't need a ten-hour documentary. Every little bit helps. Depending on the content, it might be enough to whet people's appetites and encourage them to research Islam on their own.

Posted by: PMK at February 10, 2008 2:09 PM

From above: Case of Islam is unique; more you press it down; it will certainly spring up more gloriously and gets a new life.

That's why it needs to be dissolved. Simply pressing takes out some wrinkles, but there is residual to regenerate. Dissolving is much better...
Sort of like getting rid of crab grass. If you leave one little piece of it, it will regenerate to a whole yard full.

Posted by: duh_swami at February 10, 2008 2:40 PM

"Will international violence ensue, coupled with kowtowing and handwringing from the Western media? Or will someone, somewhere, stand up for the freedom of speech?"

I think the smart money is on option one.

Posted by: g hadi hater

Probably, but the good money is that one... at least one may just stand up and give some kind of support in some way, especially after the forthcoming Eurabian Car-B-Ques.

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Wait a second, I'm confused. If Islamic terrorists are now supposed to be called 'anti-Islamic terrorists,' isn't this film pro-Islam?

Posted by: Goob

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As an American, facing the most important presidential election in the history of our country, I would like to point out that Mr. Wilders is an enormously brave man who will be doing something for us that we are afraid to do ourselves.
That will be to bring this issue into to the light of day.
IF the media covers it.

Posted by: Aunt Bea

The media will be forced to cover it once the pious Islamic rituals (aka rampages, riots ) have commenced.
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From Sheiks link above

"Wilders responded indignantly to the letter. “Sickening. Leaflets like this should not be subsidised. The contents are prejudiced and inaccurate. If you decide to do this, then write about the cowardice of the PvdA and the multicultural drama as well.”

He's exactly right it's sickening that this campaign of demonizing is being subsidised. They make claims that are not factual, it's slanderous, as they have absolutely no basis for saying Geerts is saying anything to hurt anyone on purpose. This is what they did with Pim Fortuyn, demonized him, and it resulted in his assassination.

Geerts is brave, and he already is living under threat each day, so I'm sure he's fully aware of the risks he's taking. He sleeps in safe houses, sometimes the police department even.

Darcy I agree, I think a picture morphing into HItler is a good guess.

Go Geerts !

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at February 10, 2008 2:45 PM

Wait a second, I'm confused. If Islamic terrorists are now supposed to be called 'anti-Islamic terrorists,' isn't this film pro-Islam?

Posted by: Goob

Yes I do believe that's right lol

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at February 10, 2008 2:48 PM

Someone HAS stood up for freedom of speech. Wikipedia has a lengthy article on Mohammed, including pictures from medieval times (from Muslim artists!) showing Mohammed with the Kaaba. Apparently they have been under pressure from some Muslim groups to remove the "offending" pictures but have so far refused.

We'll see how long it lasts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mohammed_kaaba_1315.jpg

Posted by: PMK at February 10, 2008 2:50 PM

The film will open up with a black screen. The word Muhammad will leap up on the screen one blood red letter at a time. Then you see the Mo' 'toon with the black bomb turban and the turban explodes

While Linda Ronstadt's song "You're no Good" plays

Feeling better cause I'm over you.
I learnt my lesson, it left a scar.
Now I see how you really are...
You're no good,
You're no good,
You're no good.
Baby , you're no good.
I won't say it again.
You're no good,
You're no good,
You're no good.
Baby, you're no good.

Posted by: dennisw at February 10, 2008 2:50 PM

I'm sure there will be worldwide outrage over another layer of Truth being voiced about Islam and the Qur'an. Yeah, Muslims will be burning down buildings and bombing cafes in an attempt to seek justice and protect a false image of Islam, a false prophet, and a false god.

Do something reasonable for a change - burn the Qur'an instead.

Posted by: champ at February 10, 2008 3:03 PM

In a scorching hot desert
In a long distant past
Your prophet arose
And wanted to last

So he invented a god
And invented a book
Went on to seize power
By hook or by crook

Always by blood
Always by war
Your Mohammad killed millions
And millions and more

Your prophet is false
And your god he is phony
And your holy book is a bunch of baloney

So take the next camel out
And leave our fair land
We don't want your prophet
And his Mein Kampf Koran

Posted by: dennisw at February 10, 2008 3:06 PM

leonthepigfarmer said

other European nationalists are usually branded, by jihadwatch, as neo nazi baby jew eating Dr. Strange love types.

You keep making up these strawman arguments. No-one at JW (that I have seen) has used any of these terms in referring to you or other BNP supporters.

Robert has made it clear that JW does not share the goals or values of BNP. That is no insult, no matter how many times you claim it is.

Posted by: special_guest at February 10, 2008 3:15 PM

I'll believe it when I see it. There is a real chance that the film will be censored, some how, some way, by someone.

For all of our spotlighting of the dhimmitude of the Netherlands, they are the ones who created the van Gogh/Hirsi Ali movie, the Mohammad cartoons, and now the Geert Wilders movie. Few others have had the cajones to intentionally directly confront Islamic bluster. Most of the other Islamic protests have been about unintended "insults" to Islam and Mohammad that we kufirs have made (misnamed teddy bears, etc.).

Posted by: special_guest at February 10, 2008 3:25 PM

Sorry to piss on your parade, but Islam is evil through and through, --posted above

So are you, with your evil nic. You get a twisted kick out of animal cruelty? You murder cats? You're as evil as murdering Mohammedans'.

Posted by: darcy at February 10, 2008 5:31 PM

I hope Mr Wilder's film is released under the full glare of all the worldss media.

Damned if you do... damned if you dont.

What I say is publish and be damned and I will salute Mr. Wilders for doing so.

Posted by: Ken CleanAirSystem at February 10, 2008 5:58 PM

Islam: fitna to be tied.

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 10, 2008 6:18 PM

From years of reading commentaries on Islamic jurisprudence, I find that "fitnah" is used to describe a state where a muslim majority entity (army, society, movement) is in unnecessary turmoil, because of sharia contravention. For example, the bickering over sex booty (an-Fal) became so intense in the early period of muslim aggression, that Khalid al-Walid asked Muhammad to order women of sexual age to go veiled. Al-Walid - and not Muhammad - is also thought to be the source of Muhammad's dictum on male polygamy. (Walid's soldiers needed rules to guide distribution of captured women; limits constrained greed) Anyone who broke those - and other - rules, is accused of fitna, which has caused civil war at times.

Passing rumors is also believed to be a source of fitna. I don't think most educated slaves of allah would equate fitna with "ordeal."

Posted by: supercargo at February 10, 2008 6:33 PM

You have to see this. Its called "winds of Jihad"
Best Ive seen yet.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xb9WdM03FSY

Posted by: havekoranwilltravel at February 10, 2008 6:45 PM

Dear Friends,
Let this big wig Geert Wilders air his movie.. “Fitna”; after all there are many a controversial movies already in circulation regarding old prophet Jesus* (peace be on him).

Let’s see what dents Mr Wilders could make in the designs of God and His divinity?

All of us we do carry an option of choosing of a right or a wrong path and will surely be asked for it. Allah says in 3:72: “O People of the Book! Why do you confound truth with falsehood and hide the truth knowingly? “

Mind you after this movie; we will find that millions more will be marching toward the gates of Islam to submit to the will of Allah. Some thirty eight thousand alone converted to Islam after incident of 9/11 in United States in one year.

Because Allah says in 21:19 ;
“ Nay, We hurl the truth at falsehood, and it breaks its head, and lo! it perishes. And woe to you for that which you ascribe to Allah”.

In 40:6; “Before them the people of Noah and other groups after them, rejected Our Signs and every nation strove to seize their Messenger, and disputed by means of false arguments that they might rebut the truth thereby. Then I seized them, and how terrible was My retribution!
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Love for all, Hatred for none

Posted by: A Khokar at February 10, 2008 7:13 PM

Mr Wilders is someone who probably got bullied by Muslims in school. He's an absolute psycho to insult Muslims in this manner.
I dare him to burn the Quran, that goes to anyone of you, nothing will protect you or him from the wrath of God.

The guy looks like Milosovic. He wants to create divisions between Muslims, he will ultimately fail. He says he doesn't want to cause offence, he's already done it.
The guy is a white supremacist, a nationalist, a bigot, scared of Muslims, he's racist to the max, even his own people are against him. What difference is a little video 'exposing Islam' going to make?

Funny how he hates Islam, appears on FOX News, is a hero in Israel and is a hero on JihadWatch.

He's evil to the extreme,I mean what is the issue regarding the Quran, I'll give him answers on it. He could have got answers but he wants to create division and war in Europe good luck to him. Don't blame the Muslims for retaliating to this as if they started the problem.

He's just unhappy that Muslims are successful in the West. Talking about how they are pampered. They get off their arse's and work don't they you prick?
His views are no different to the BNP,the Aryan Brotherhood, the KKK, Vlams Belang, their all the same. Desperate for something, which they have failed to get and will fail to get.

So my message for you and him is I'm here to stay. You have no right to demand I leave. Throw a tantrum like I care or anyone cares for that matter.

Posted by: thesaracen at February 10, 2008 7:21 PM

@PMK

I hope you are correct, I hope it will be a good movie with the facts as they are, and not some kind of parody. People really need to hear a clear message.
People in the Netherlands are sleeping, they don't care or know about Islam.
This is a great time to educate them.
And i'm sure Muslims will help out once it's released.

Posted by: Frankish Infidel at February 10, 2008 7:37 PM

Some how, I don’t know why, the name “Khokar” reminds me of Khaybar and the joyous times big Mo and the “Boys” had there so long ago. Anyone else reminded of this, or is it just me?

Just watched the show posted by havekoranwilltravel, above and I must agree, VERY funny and entertaining. What did you think of it Khokar?

Kill the Jihadi, educate the Muslim
DEUS VULT!

Posted by: Davegreybeard at February 10, 2008 8:11 PM

"You have to see this. Its called "winds of Jihad"
Best Ive seen yet.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xb9WdM03FSY"

Posted by: havekoranwilltravel

Hey, Sheik yer'mami-- Dude, you're famous! ;)

My guess for the picture of Mohammed? I think it will morph into a photo of bin Laden, or one of his cronies.

Posted by: Abscedere at February 10, 2008 8:20 PM

I have only read through half the comments so I hope I am not repeating anyone.

If Robert or someone could get in contact with Mr. Wilder, why not have it appear on YouTube the night it airs in the Netherlands? Just a thought.

That would short circuit any attempts buy the enemy to try and pull something. Heck, I think it should be announce before hand. No doubt there will be hell to pay but that's how the cookie crumbles.

John 8:32
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

يوحنا 8:32
ثم انك لن تعرف الحقيقة ، والحقيقة سوف تحدد انت حر.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at February 10, 2008 8:32 PM

Why do people mention far right racist parties, like the BNP morons, when they speak about Mr. Wilders?
I would have thought that the fact that islam is not a race or colour is perfectly obvious to the members of this board.
Every time someone has the courage to speak out about islamic supremacism, they get hit with the old, pathetic and withered racism card.

It really is pathetic... and a weak, lame argument.

Posted by: Ken CleanAirSystem at February 10, 2008 8:45 PM

15 minutes is more than enough time to expose the dark side of Islam. The utter depravity of Islam is clearly evident after only one minute of reading the Qur'an. (Start with Chapter 9 for good measure).

Posted by: Xero G at February 10, 2008 9:56 PM

I applaud the few European mavericks who will call islam out for what it really is. I hope I'm wrong, but most of Europe seem to be pussies when it comes to defending and protecting themselves, especially against the evil islam promotes. I pray to God (the peaceful, loving,forgiving, and only God)that Europe pulls their heads out of the sand. islam is a culture of hate, oppression, evil, and their so called "prophet" was a terrorist himself. The rest of the civilized world better wake up! You must fight fire with fire. These islamic animals cannot be reasoned with. The only thing they know is violence and hatred. I don't want world leaders who are willing to talk and negotiate with these savages who are hell bent on killing the non-believers (non-muslims, civilized, dignified human beings). I live in the United States and will vote for a president that will hopefully spend his tenure hunting down and destroying these monsters wherever they are. The koran preaches hate, murder, and the exalting a false prophet. I'll do everything I can to expose islam, the koran, and what kind of life the asshole, muhammad, led. Those who join this valiant effort, I am with you my friends.

Posted by: Allen at February 10, 2008 10:00 PM

Ken CleanAirSystem.

Absolutely right! No more effective way to silence someone in this country than to call him a racist.

It's been going on for years, and has never lost its power to intimidate or stifle an honest discussion of anything. .

Posted by: rational at February 10, 2008 10:22 PM

If you haven't seen it, Stuck Mojo did a great job of exposing Islamic depravity in just 8 minutes. Caution: The lyrics are a bit earthy toward the end, if you have sensitive ears. I don't like rap music at all, but this guy knows the score, and effectively makes the case.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA

Posted by: Stendec at February 10, 2008 10:27 PM

If Geert Wilders *really* wants to upset the Muslims he should get in touch with Bp Patrick Sookhdeo and Bp Nazir Ali, and Abdul Rahman (the Afghan who converted to Christianity, and is now being sheltered in Italy).

Do a short interview with each man: Patrick and Abdul explaining when, how and why they left Islam for Christianity; Nazir-Ali explaining when, how and why his parents left Islam, and what it was like for them as Christians in Pakistan.

This could be followed by film footage of the Christian baptism of an actual apostate or two or three (use CGI to obscure the face of the person for their protection); Bp Nazir-Ali or Bp Sookhdeo, or for that matter, Pope Benedict, would be sure to know some people who have currently come forward as candidates for baptism, and are quietly receiving instruction and being tested for sincerity.

I know that there have been so many apostates from Islam in Italy, that the Catholic church there has had to dust off the form of service for the baptism of adults, which had been pretty much disused for centuries.

The Orthodox, in Russia, have also been getting a good few converts from Islam. Then there was that nominally Muslim filmmaker in the Balkans, who chose to leave Islam and be baptised in the Serbian Orthodox church, with all due ceremony.

So: let's have a film of some actual-factual baptisms of apostates, showing the very moment in which they joyfully, publicly leave Mohammed behind and vow themselves to Christ, within each of the major branches of Christianity. Finish the film on a celebratory note, with either the Haydn or the Berlioz Te Deum playing while a list of some of the converts (names changed for safety?) rolls down the screen.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at February 10, 2008 11:30 PM

"I dare him to burn the Quran, that goes to anyone of you, nothing will protect you or him from the wrath of God."

The One True God despises false gods like allah, false prophets like Mohammad, and false Holy books like the Qur'an. I guarantee you, God would actually be pleased if such a book like the Qur'an was burned, so I beg to differ with you.

Posted by: champ at February 10, 2008 11:33 PM

Those who throw hissy fits over Vlaams Belang, BNP etc should have a look at what the other side thinks of them. I'd say a little more tolerance for the right thing doesn't mean you're supporting Nazi's, unless you support this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IcOFHNwokE&eurl=http://voiceoftheshire.blogspot.com/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 10, 2008 11:40 PM

So my message for you and him is I'm here to stay. You have no right to demand I leave. Throw a tantrum like I care or anyone cares for that matter.
Posted by: thesaracen

I could care less, but you are not here at my good graces but By Spencer's. You have no 'right' to post here. It is he who 'allows' you to stay. If he decides to 'dis-allow' you, you is outta here, no matter how much you whine and complain. I suppose you could register under a different name and fool everyone for about thirty seconds, but that's about it. Soon no one will respond to you anyway because your Taqiyya, and not taqiyya, is old and diluted.
So good luck if Allah wills it, I'm not sure Allah is too keen on luck, so he may not will to much of it...

Posted by: duh_swami at February 11, 2008 1:05 AM

sheik yer'mami...Dr Idiot of the Nation of Maniacs would be more like it.
What a sweet man. I could only stand a short burst of that crap. I used to work in a state mental institution and there were some people who sounded just like that...

Posted by: duh_swami at February 11, 2008 1:18 AM

"Mind you after this movie; we will find that millions more will be marching toward the gates of Islam to submit to the will of Allah. Some thirty eight thousand alone converted to Islam after incident of 9/11 in United States in one year."
Posted by: A Khokar

Perhaps; but in Europe alone Moslems are leaving Islam at the rate of 2000 per DAY!

Posted by: ebonystone at February 11, 2008 9:46 AM

Some thirty eight thousand alone converted to Islam after incident of 9/11 in United States in one year."
Posted by: A Khokar

That is hogwash.
Now, how many Iraqi Moslems have unwillingly left Islam do to the US Marines?

Posted by: BurgerBoy at February 11, 2008 11:26 AM

HEY ALL CHRISTIANS! The Bible (I Thess 5:17)) tells us to "PRAY WITHOUT CEASING!" Read JIHADWATCH, be observant, be alert, and PRAY WITHOUT CEASING for the protection and safety of our country and the world! Our GOD is Good!

Posted by: youngtimer at February 11, 2008 11:39 AM

Some thirty eight thousand alone converted to Islam after incident of 9/11 in United States in one year."
Posted by: A Khokar

I agree you can't believe and should not believe anything these supporters of Islam say. Remember War is Deceit. As far a I have been able to deduce Islam is growing only in the baby making department. That is one of their tactics. The long range plan is to overwhelm at the poles. Twenty or so years is nothing.

I am glad to hear that the Spirit of God is moving in the Muslim community where ever they are. With the way Islam reacts to these conversions you know that they are real.

John 6:34
All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

يوحنا 6:34
ان كل ما يعطيني الاب سيأتي لي ، وذاك الذي يأتي لي أنني بالتأكيد لن يلقي بها

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at February 11, 2008 4:47 PM