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"Damage their buildings with everything, damage their lives - just show them." Show them that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet, you see. Piety.
"Jihad call for maximum damage, trial told," by Katie Bice in the Herald Sun (thanks to JE):
THE alleged leader of a home-grown terror cell told two Sydney associates they should cause maximum damage in the name of jihad.The Supreme Court heard Abdul Nacer Benbrika spoke with two men from interstate in February 2005 about a 1600-page document he had found on the internet.
The court heard he told them: "If we want to die with jihad we do maximum damage," he said.
"Damage their buildings with everything, damage their lives - just show them.
"You be careful (inaudible) trust no one."
Posted by Robert at February 22, 2008 8:08 AM
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Must be an original X-Files fan to be using Fox's catch-phrase 'Trust no one'.
Mind you, just reading about these cases in Australia, with this one and the twelve men being tried in Melbourne also, just highlights how far removed these people are from genuine Aussie values, ship them all off to Iran or Saudi Arabia if they so desire, but they have no place being in a country like ours. Their Islamist values are anaethema to a Western democracy.
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at February 22, 2008 8:49 AM
DaveOz,
Haven't you heard? These are the misunderstanders. "Shipping them all off" means punishing the "innocent" along with the guilty. There's no way to know who is a jihadist and who isn't without either spying on them, which will be construed as a violation of civil rights, or waiting for one of them to try to blow something up. A wise man once said: we have to be right all the time. They only have to be right once.
at February 22, 2008 9:10 AM
Yes, islam is incompatible with Democracy.
A simple solution would be to remove any and all mosques in democratic countries and ban islam as a dangerous cult.
Give no special privileges to this demonic group.
No moderate muslim, no way to progressively reform islam. No proof of any that I've seen so far.
Peace,
Abu Lahab
at February 22, 2008 9:19 AM
Im confused. How can an "inner struggle" do maxium damage?
Posted by: Elric66 at February 22, 2008 9:34 AM
How can an "inner struggle" do maxium damage?
If the struggle cannot be contained within you and the energy the two forces generate is unleashed on everyone around you? Kaboom!
Posted by: PMK at February 22, 2008 9:46 AM
I have just got a nice video, that somebody dedicated to me:
Kaba Dancing, Miss Pigmillah
It is just fun, but it is a scene of Kaba that I have always wanted to see like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxfQCrJjihE
at February 22, 2008 11:52 AM
They are just trying to spread "World Peace".
Posted by: AllahSnackbar at February 22, 2008 12:53 PM
Well, it would be a proper jihadi thank-you to Australia for the eager recognition of the illegal independence of the cuththroat Kosovar Albanian nation, and for rallying for its domestically-grown sadistic jihadi cutthroat David Hicks who joined Kosovar Albanian terrorists in the butchering of Serb civilians, and then bragged about it to the media.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
at February 22, 2008 1:45 PM
http://www.snd-us.com/history/dolecek/dolecek_accuse.htm
Pythagoras, Darcy and Matamoros, if you are there:
This is for your education on the Balkans.
Darcy, about Omarska you mentioned: find Penny Marshall connection to it (yes, Laverne ! ! !).
And about Serb "rape camps": read about the severely screwed-up American female lying about them to CBS News.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at February 22, 2008 2:49 PM
Oh, Pythagoras, Darcy and Matamoros:
This is about Srebrenica you insist on mentioning. This is what Muslims of Srebrenica - yes, all males of combat age, the soon-to-be "poor, innocent, goody-sweety-cutie victims" - were doing to Serb civilians for more than 2 years before being massacred. Up to 150 Serb villages destroyed, thousands of Serb civilians murdered.
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/Oric.htm
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at February 22, 2008 3:04 PM
Its so reassuring to know that muslims in Australia are so well adjusted...
...many having come here, to Australia, and taken their oath of citizenship,
Australia's Oath of citizenship...
From this time forward, under God,
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~wtt626/islamsagenda.html#Australias_Oath_of_citizenship
And talking of 'oaths'....
Lets say something of 'alah'....
http://members.dodo.com.au/~wtt626/Curseuponmankind.html
at February 22, 2008 11:08 PM
ISLAM is incompatible with Christians, democracy, freedom, justice.
Muslims have *proven* this, *themselves*, in words and actions.
'It is Jihad folks, until the end.'
http://members.dodo.com.au/~wtt626/comeinpeace.html#Live_in_peace_till_strong_enough_to_wage_jihad
Wake up people.
Anybody who describes himself as a muslims *IS*, *by definition*, a Jihadist.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~wtt626/troublewithislam1.html
What i want to hear 'muslims' in the West start to openly say, is, "I'm an ex-muslim.", in describing themselves.
We welcome newcomers to Australia [who are willing to integrate], but not as those seeking to promote 'the Cause of Allah' [*facilitating* an expansion of Sharia, and strife, here].
Line in the sand, people.
Posted by: Ezekiel2012 at February 22, 2008 11:30 PM
GOODAY!!
I got a question for the folks going into their fall season. Is this trial a criminal trial or is it being handled as a threat to the state? Whats the word . . . "Treason". . . I honestly could not figure it out.
Just asking so I know in the future.
Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at February 22, 2008 11:50 PM
The admirable Aayan Hirsi Ali visited our city yesterday. Although I didn't get to attend the speech, the paper gave excellent reviews and pictures. Among other points, she stressed the cruelty and unnecessary law of female "whateveritscalled!!"
Can you believe a distinguished (?) Muslim female actually chided her for stressing female mutilation and not saying anything good about Islam?!!!!! (LOL)
Posted by: youngtimer at February 23, 2008 1:50 AM
youngtimer said......
"........Aayan Hirsi Ali visited our city yesterday. Although I didn't get to attend the speech, the paper gave excellent reviews and pictures. Among other points, she stressed the cruelty [of FGM]........Can you believe a distinguished (?) Muslim female actually chided her....." ...........*for speaking TRUTH*.
Can i believe it?
Yes.
It would seem TRUTH has a new paradigm, today, where the ISLAMIC world meets the 'West'...
TRUTH is 'hate'.
And hate, is 'TRUTH'.
Muslims *hate*, *hate*, *hate*, the TRUTH being spoken.
ISLAM......a false religion, for a false people.
John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
at February 23, 2008 2:02 AM
It might be interesting to note, what is Jihad? Al-Hajj Talib 'Abdur-Rashid defines physical Jihad as relating to the use of physical force in defense of Muslims against oppression and transgression by the enemies of Allah, Islam and Muslims. Allah commands that Muslims lead peaceful lives and not transgress against anyone. If they are persecuted and oppressed, the Qur'an recommends that they migrate to a more peaceful and tolerant land: "Lo! Those who believe, and those who emigrate (to escape persecution) and strive (Jahadu) in the way of Allah, these have hope of Allah's mercy..." Qur'an 2:218
"And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you. But do not transgress limits. Truly Allah loves not the transgressors." Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqarah (2:190)
"O ye who believe! do not kill yourselves, for truly Allah has been to you Most Merciful. If any do that in rancour and injustice, soon shall We cast him into the Fire..." (Qur'an 4:29-30).
"Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause..." (17:33).
Shi'ites classify Jihad into Greater Jihad and Lesser Jihad. Lesser Jihad refers to defending oneself, one's community against oppression and tyranny, upon which there are strict regulations. Greater Jihad refers to the struggle inside oneself to obey God and reject sin. Ramadan Buti, a contemporary Orthodox scholar from Syria, wrote:
"Even before Muhammad conducted Jihad by sword against the unbelievers, there is no doubt the Prophet invited these unbelievers peacefully, lodged protests against their beliefs and strove to remove their misgivings about Islam. When they refused any other solution, but rather declared a war against him and his message and initiated the fight, there was no alternative except to fight back." Notice that Jihad is defensive. Although some extremists have succeeded in convincing Muslims that Jihad can also be offensive.
Javed Ahmed Ghamidi writes: "Therefore, after the Prophet and his Companions, there is no concept in Islam obliging Muslims to wage war for propagation or implementation of Islam. The only valid basis for jihad through arms is to end oppression when all other measures have failed."
at February 24, 2008 12:21 AM
Comment said....
"Javed Ahmed Ghamidi writes: "Therefore, after the Prophet and his Companions, there is no concept in Islam obliging Muslims to wage war for propagation or implementation of Islam. The only valid basis for jihad through arms is *to end oppression* when all other measures have failed." "
The problem is 'Comment', is what do muslims *actually mean* by their words, i.e. ......many devout muslims will [and do!] 'define', the 'oppression' of other muslims, as.....
---subjecting muslims to secular laws, *in non-muslim nations*,
---and see even the *existence* of non-muslim communities [nations] as an 'insult' to ISLAM.
etc, etc, etc.
e.g. ...
July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels
............[To the muslim mind,] Aggression: [Is...] When non-Muslims do anything to preserve their culture and resist the Islamization of their country. Even when this "aggression" is non-violent, such as publishing a cartoon critical of Islam, this intolerable insult to Islamic supremacy on earth can be answered with violence by Muslims. Since a refusal to submit to sharia is a rebellion against Allah, *the very existence of non-Muslim communities can be viewed as an act of aggression*.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012406.php
Psalms 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing [deceit]: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
at February 24, 2008 4:56 AM
To Comment,
It is clear to many Kuffar today, that whenever and wherever, muslims are politically weak, they always polite, and quote conciliatory Koran passages.
Yet when they are *masters* [or wherever they aspire to be], the tone of the Koranic verses quoted, is decidedly different...
But those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
That is because they hate the Revelation of Allah; so He has made their deeds fruitless.
Do they not travel through the earth, and see what was the End of those before them (who did evil)? Allah brought utter destruction on them, and similar (fates await) those who reject Allah.
That is because Allah is the Protector of those who believe, but *those who reject Allah have no protector*. [i.e. KILL the Kuffar!!! Its OK, because they are un-believers.]
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008 - 011
You may quote the Koran, I prefer the Bible....
Psalms 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing [deceit]: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
at February 24, 2008 5:33 AM
To 'Comment',
There is an old proverb which states,
"If you want to know a man, give him power."
I direct your gaze to all muslims nations in the world, to all of those ISLAMIC 'paradises'.
To all of those places where *muslims* have 'power'.
Another proverb....
Proverbs 14:34
¶Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.
Is there one ISLAMIC nation which has been exalted by God?
Dictionary definition:
exalted
· adj.
1 at a high level.
2 (of an idea) noble; lofty.
3 *extremely happy*.
– DERIVATIVES exaltedly adv. exaltedness n.
Proverbs 29:2
...when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
see also....
http://difficultimages.blogspot.com/2006/04/cruel-islam-and-iran-is-worst.html
at February 24, 2008 5:58 AM
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