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You gotta use your head to understand these things
Dhimmi Saudi-funded academic John Esposito has praised Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradawi as a "reformist," and here he is reforming, saying that it is wrong to calls today's Jews apes and pigs. (Actually, there is nothing reformist about this -- it is a mainstream and venerable Islamic position, as I explain in this segment of my Blogging the Qur'an series.)
It would be wrong to call them names, you see, but not wrong to murder them.
"Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, Recently Barred from the U.K., Reiterates His Position on Suicide Bombings and Declares: Jews Are Not the Offspring of Apes and Pigs," from MEMRTV (thanks to all who sent this in):
Following are excerpts from addresses by Islamic scholar Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Al-Hiwar TV on February 15, 2008 and on Al-Jazeera TV on February 18, 2008.Al-Hiwar TV, February 15, 2008:
Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: I am known in the Islamic world as the preacher of the mainstream.
[...]
I sanctioned these operations to anybody who is forced to carry them out in defense of his homeland. In my opinion, our brothers in Palestine are forced to do so. In Iraq, they have a wide variety of weapons. They are able to use weapons against their enemies. But the weapons of the Palestinian brothers are no match for their enemies' weapons – they do not have even one percent or one permille of their weapons. That's why I sanctioned these operations for [the Palestinians], but not for [the Iraqis]. In addition, I did not approve using this kind of operation in New York and Washington, on September 11, 2001. I did not approve of these operations in the London and Madrid bombings. I sanctioned bombings and sacrifice operations for the Palestinians only – not because their enemies are Jews, but because they are occupiers, and the Palestinians cannot fight them. They kill Palestinians on a daily basis, destroy their homes, burn their fields, uproot their trees, and so on.
Al-Jazeera TV, February 18, 2008:
I denounced some contemporary religious preachers, who curse the Jews and the Christians, saying: "Allah, annihilate the Jews and the Christians." Where did this come from? There are Jews and Christians in our Muslim countries. There are Copts in Egypt, and Christians in Syria. So how can you curse them? Not only that, but they curse: "Allah, turn their children in orphans," "Allah, destroy their homes." Who sanctioned such prayers? The Koran does not call to turn children into orphans or to destroy homes. There are no such things in the prayers of the Prophet Muhammad.
I denounced some people who said that the Jews are the offspring of apes and pigs. That's not true. When God transformed some people into apes and pigs, they did not have any offspring, as is written in the Al-Muslim compilation. When God transforms people into something else, they do not have offspring. They die and are annihilated straight away. Besides, this is a curse, and Islam forbids cursing.
Posted by Robert at February 22, 2008 2:22 PM
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"When God transformed some people into apes and pigs, they did not have any offspring, as is written in the Al-Muslim compilation" -- Qaradawi
Ah, so the Sahih Muslim hadith is important. Muslims seem to use the hadiths whenever it suits them, and pretend to consider them dubious whenever Infidels bring up unpleasant stuff from them.
Posted by: cantor
at February 22, 2008 2:40 PM
Oh, these people are so fuuuuuull of shit.
Posted by: undaunted
at February 22, 2008 3:17 PM
Look at the big brain on Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi.
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at February 22, 2008 3:29 PM
"I sanctioned these operations to anybody who is forced to carry them out in defense of his homeland."
So he's sanctioning the actions taken by the Israelis in defense of THEIR homeland? No? So I guess it just depends on whom is doing the defending.
What a putz.
Posted by: walterc
at February 22, 2008 3:37 PM
Looks more like a bandage on his head following brain surgery.
You mean it took brain surgery for him to finally understand the destructive nature of name calling? I think more brain surgery is needed before they remove the remaining brain damage; perhaps heart surgery is needed as well.
Posted by: champ
at February 22, 2008 3:47 PM
" They kill Palestinians on a daily basis, destroy their homes, burn their fields, uproot their trees, and so on."
So stop killing Israelis, and these things won't happen. It's that simple, you miserable, fanatical barbarian.
Posted by: commonsense
at February 22, 2008 3:53 PM
From Article. When God transforms people into something else, they do not have offspring.
Well I certainly hope not. He sounds like he believes Allah turning people into animals is a fact. If he does not know this as a fact, how can he know that there are no offspring?
Posted by: duh_swami
at February 22, 2008 4:10 PM
...He sounds like he believes Allah turning people into animals is a fact....
Indeed nabi duh_swami (pbuy)* And what is more, that he has this bizarre belief is apparently lost on his followers.
nabi ZK (pbum)*
...trust the nabi on this one...people do not literally turn into other animals....I mean...come on now...I mean, like, I'm at least 90% sure that this is probably bunk...
* (pbum) = peace be upon me
* (pbuy) = peace be upon you
at February 22, 2008 4:27 PM
Hark at satans santa claus.
Does'nt he look just swell in his diddy hat....
Posted by: Stopmakingsense
at February 22, 2008 4:37 PM
Dhimmi Saudi-funded academic John Esposito has praised Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradawi as a "reformist," and here he is reforming, saying that it is wrong to calls today's Jews apes and pigs.....It would be wrong to call them names, you see, but not wrong to murder them".-Robert
Espoharpo is a joke, Robert.
Posted by: Frank
at February 22, 2008 4:56 PM
"I did not approve using this kind of operations in New York and Washington"
How can we believe a word this man says? We all know George Bush staged those attacks.
These Flat Earthers are really something.
Posted by: flowerknife_us
at February 22, 2008 4:57 PM
Do us all a favor and stop thinking Sheikh - it should be outlawed in Islamaland. Leave the thinking to the sane, please. Thank you.
Posted by: champ
at February 22, 2008 5:00 PM
Another Santa Claus wannabee--and with that "Mark of the Beast"--the so-called "raisin"(?) on his forehead, but listen to what he says.
and
"If someone says he is coming to kill you. believe him"
but
"If someone comes to kill you, kill him first."
These two quotes have NOT sunk into the Israeli (let alone Jewish) psyche yet--and after--what?--2000+ years.
Apes and pigs aside, the blow-up Moslems are real and an ever-present danger. The only solution is to remove the populace that breeds these human bombs from being anywhere near a Jewish population.
How can this be done? Use your imagination. Not PC? You bet. But then the choice will have to be made between being PC (politically correct) or alive--the sooner the better. Better much sooner than later. If later, it may be too late--not enough Jews left to matter.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at February 22, 2008 5:18 PM
Besides, this is a curse, and Islam forbids cursing.
I'm beginning to think that imams that are 'moderate' don't really know the true islam. Does moderate mean 'unfaithful'?
To show you what I mean I did a quick search and can show you a few examples of Mohammed cursing people and Allah cursing people. If allah and Mohammed do it, muslims should do it? Right?
I'll put in links to the Sahih Bukhari to let you look it up and verify if you'd like. Sahih means accepted, genuine reports agreed upon by all mainstream, legitimate Muslims.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/060.sbt.html#006.060.082
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 82:
Narrated Salim's father:
That he heard Allah's Apostle on raising his head from the bowing in the last Rak'a in the Fajr prayer, saying, "O Allah, curse such-and-such person and such-and-such person, and such-and-such person," after saying, "Allah hears him who sends his praises to Him, O our Lord, all praise is for you." So Allah revealed:--"Not for you (O Muhammad) (but for Allah) is the decision, verily they are indeed wrongdoers." (3.128)
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/008.sbt.html#001.008.428
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "May Allah's curse be on the Jews for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/023.sbt.html#002.023.477
Volume 2, Book 23, Number 477:
Narrated Ibn Abbas.:
Abu Lahab, may Allah curse him, once said to the Prophet (p.b.u.h), "Perish you all the day."
Then the Divine Inspiration came: "Perish the hands of Abi Lahab! And perish he!" (111.1).
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/026.sbt.html#002.026.671
Volume 2, Book 26, Number 671:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
When Allah's Apostle came to Mecca, he refused to enter the Ka'ba with idols in it. He ordered (idols to be taken out). So they were taken out. The people took out the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael holding Azlams in their hands. Allah's Apostle said, "May Allah curse these people. By Allah, both Abraham and Ishmael never did the game of chance with Azlams." Then he entered the Ka'ba and said Takbir at its corners but did not offer the prayer in it.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/034.sbt.html#003.034.426
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 426:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
Once 'Umar was informed that a certain man sold alcohol. 'Umar said, "May Allah curse him! Doesn't he know that Allah's Apostle said, 'May Allah curse the Jews, for Allah had forbidden them to eat the fat of animals but they melted it and sold it."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/055.sbt.html#004.055.571
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 571:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
When the Prophet saw pictures in the Ka'ba, he did not enter it till he ordered them to be erased. When he saw (the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael carrying the arrows of divination, he said, "May Allah curse them (i.e. the Quraish)! By Allah, neither Abraham nor Ishmael practiced divination by arrows."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/030.sbt.html#003.030.091
Volume 3, Book 30, Number 91:
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, "Medina is a sanctuary from that place to that. Its trees should not be cut and no heresy should be innovated nor any sin should be committed in it, and whoever innovates in it an heresy or commits sins (bad deeds), then he will incur the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people." (See Hadith No. 409, Vol 9).
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/054.sbt.html#004.054.460
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 460:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/072.sbt.html#007.072.832
Volume 7, Book 72, Number 832:
Narrated 'Abdullah :
Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get it done for themselves, and those who remove hair from their faces, and those who artificially create spaces between their teeth to look beautiful, such women as alter the features created by Allah. Why should I not then curse those whom Allah's Apostle has cursed and that is in Allah's Book?
It seems that many religious leaders of Islam either don't read the holy scripture or are ignorant of basic facts in their religion.
Disgraceful.
at February 22, 2008 5:20 PM
Photo Caption:
Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradawi points out the exact spot where his brain was once housed until it was eaten by jooooos in the middle of the night. He is enraged. "How can I make goat and wife beatings with no brain left, may allah curse the jooooos". "Hat make fun by infidel pig dogs but magic hat make stick long and wide to beat jooooos not goat or wife".
Reported by Fluffy of Al-Jazooooooya Newz.
Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis
at February 22, 2008 5:21 PM
Caption 2:
"holy shiite.. I could'a had a V-8"
Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis
at February 22, 2008 5:23 PM
When God transformed some people into apes and pigs, they did not have any offspring, as is written in the Al-Muslim compilation. When God transforms people into something else, they do not have offspring. They die and are annihilated straight away.
My eyes tell me the Jews weren't annihilated. Since their ancestors obviously weren't turned into apes and pigs, shouldn't today's Jews be accepted and respected by all Muslims as fellow children of Allah? If Allah didn't transform them then it suggests he saw nothing wrong with them.
Posted by: PMK
at February 22, 2008 5:49 PM
Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
"I denounced some people who said that the Jews are the offspring of apes and pigs. That's not true." What convinced you, Dr. Qaradawi? DNA samples?
"When God transformed some people into apes and pigs, they did not have any offspring, as is written in the Al-Muslim compilation."
Guess, what, Bozo? The Al-Bundy compilation is more authoritative.
The most amazing thing is that anyone actually believes this horseshit!
Posted by: Lex
at February 22, 2008 8:11 PM
hmm I feel silly asking but...
what does "Dhimmi" mean??
at February 22, 2008 8:12 PM
Tori:
Dhimmis are those who resign to live under Muslim rule and pay tribute to their Muslim masters. In the case of Espisoto, he takes money from the Muslims and performs acts of trickery beneath the academic banner that he wears saying we have nothing to worry about, Islam is a religion of peace etc. Thus, in his case dhimmi=useful idiot
for Muslim domination as prescribed in the Koran.
at February 22, 2008 8:57 PM
I am sorry, I must be missing something blindingly obvious.
As far as I can tell (in the above excerpt) Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradawi is unable to string together a single sentence containing anything resembling reason or logic.
Can anyone enlighten me as to why hordes of devoted followers pay any attention to anything he says?
Or is there some kind of blight of the brain which they all have in common?
Posted by: Kev
at February 22, 2008 9:23 PM
when I tried to post last time, I saw a message I have never seen before --
Movable Type
An error occurred
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-- then when I logged back in, there were two duplicate posts of my post which I thought had failed to go through.
Posted by: cantor
at February 22, 2008 10:01 PM
Kev, many refer to it as Islamania, but you won't find it by that name in the DSM IV. It is marked by a vehement suspension of disbelief and an almost pathological refusal to think critically or to even ask questions about problematic ayats, for as the Noble Qur'an says,
"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith." (Surah 5:101-102)
Of course, even the idiocy of this ayat can't be remarked upon by those afflicted with Islamania, who fear losing their faith and going to hell for apostasy for daring to think outside of the Mohammad box, or rather the prison that Mohammad's many hatreds and perverted loves constructed for them to dwell in FOREVER.
Posted by: Lex
at February 22, 2008 10:07 PM
Correction: Ayah (آية ʾāyatun, plural Ayat آيات ʾāyātun) is the Arabic word for sign or miracle. The word usually refers to each one of the 6236 verses found in the Qur'an (6348 ayat counting the basmalas. Muslims regard each ayah of the Qur'an as a sign from Allah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayat
Too bad the Arabic word for sign or miracle isn't gigo.
Posted by: Lex
at February 22, 2008 10:41 PM
I hope he delivers the opening prayer to Congress soon. "First off, you are not apes and pigs..." Ahhh, moderate Islam.
Posted by: Bingo
at February 23, 2008 12:51 AM
"This you braaaain on 'slam", says Sheik Qaradawi.
In spite of his obvious and very challenging speech impediment, Qaradawi attempts to warn others of the dangerous side effects to using Islam.
Just Say No!!!!
Posted by: champ
at February 23, 2008 1:42 AM
Its a known fact that Pigs are one of the most inteligent of animals. Apparently Apes are quite inteligent as well.
Now: compare these two species with a "moderate" Muslim.
at February 23, 2008 4:31 AM
33:57. (Shakir). “Surely (as for) those who speak evil things of Allah and His Apostle, Allah has cursed them in this world and the here after, and He has prepared for them a chastisement bringing disgrace.
Qaradawi (Q): “I denounced some contemporary religious preachers, who curse the Jews and the Christians, saying: "Allah, annihilate the Jews and the Christians." Where did this come from?”
9:30 (Shakir). “And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
(Yusuf Ali) “The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!”
(Pickthall) “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!”
[note: the word variously translated as curse, fight, or destroy is a q-t-l (kill) word]
“Sahih Muslim, Chapter 8: THROWING OF NON-BELIEVERS IN HELL-FIRE FOR BELIEVERS AS DIVINE GRACE AND MERCY
Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6665:
Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.
Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666:
Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. 'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him).”
Quran, 3:61. And whoso disputeth with thee concerning him, after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, say (unto him): Come! We will summon our sons and your sons, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, then we will pray humbly (to our Lord) and (solemnly) invoke the curse of Allah upon those who lie.
[note: the Quran states that saying God has a son is considered a lie]
4:47. (Hilali and Khan) “O you who have been given the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Believe in what We have revealed (to Muhammad SAW) confirming what is (already) with you, before We efface faces (by making them like the back of necks; without nose, mouth, eyes, etc.) and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbathbreakers. And the Commandment of Allah is always executed.”
5:60. Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.
Q:
"There are Jews and Christians in our Muslim countries. There are Copts in Egypt, and Christians in Syria. So how can you curse them?"
See 9:30, above. Also…
3:87-88 they are cursed by Allah, angels, and men
31:7 give them tidings of a painful punishment/doom
45:7-8 give them tidings of a painful punishment/doom
84:24 announce to them a painful punishment/doom
54:48. “On the day when they are dragged into the Fire upon their faces (it is said unto them): Feel the touch of hell.”
Q:
Not only that, but they curse: "Allah, turn their children in orphans," "Allah, destroy their homes."
Who sanctioned such prayers? The Koran does not call to turn children into orphans or to destroy homes. There are no such things in the prayers of the Prophet Muhammad.
16:26. “Those before them plotted, so Allah struck at the foundations of their building, and then the roof fell down upon them from above them, and the doom came on them whence they knew not”
Re orphans:
The Quran and Hadith call for aggressive jihad fighting, and even permit the killing of women in some cases (i.e., “just” causes, such as jihad), which inevitably leaves some orphans.
Re, Prayers of Muhammad:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 183:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet used to recite the following invocations during Qunut: "O Allah! Save Salama bin Hisham. O Allah! Save Al-Walid bin Al-Walid. O Allah! Save 'Aiyash bin Rabi'a O Allah ! Save the weak Muslims. O Allah! Be very hard on Mudar tribe. O Allah! Afflict them with years (of famine) similar to the (famine) years of the time of Prophet Joseph."
Q:
“I denounced some people who said that the Jews are the offspring of apes and pigs. That's not true. When God transformed some people into apes and pigs, they did not have any offspring, as is written in the Al-Muslim compilation. When God transforms people into something else, they do not have offspring. They die and are annihilated straight away.”
Also note there appears to be some difference of opinion as to whether Jews and Christians are merely the siblings of apes or pigs or whether they are decendents. Tantawi (no less an influential figure than Qaradawi) is quoted by Bostom:
“...And Sheikh Tantawi has not mollified such hatemongering beliefs since becoming the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar as his statements on the Jews as "enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs", the legitimacy of homicide bombing of Jews, or "dialogue" with Jews (just below), make clear.
'...anyone who avoids meeting with the enemies in order to counter their dubious claims and stick fingers into their eyes, is a coward. My stance stems from Allah's book [the Koran], more than one-third of which deals with the Jews...[I] wrote a dissertation dealing with them [the Jews], all their false claims and their punishment by Allah. I still believe in everything written in that dissertation. [i.e., from above, in Banu Isra'il fi al-Koran wa al-Sunna]'”
Q:
“Besides, this is a curse, and Islam forbids cursing.”
(see “announce to them a painful punishment, doom,” etc.,
3:85-87. “And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and (after) they bore witness that the messenger is true and after clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) had come unto them. And Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. As for such, their guerdon is that on them rests the curse of Allah and of angels and of men combined.”
at February 23, 2008 5:20 AM
Qaradawi: “The Koran does not call to turn children into orphans or to destroy homes.”
(But the Hadith, indirectly, does. The Quran, also, indirectly, does, by telling Muslims to follow Muhammad's example--33:21--which is described in the Hadith and Sira).
Another (concealed) technical distinction from Qaradawi, who has also written much about why following the Hadith is so important. The Quran generally doesn't get into specifics about warfare, such as whether homes are to be destroyed or the children of non-Muslims made into orphans. (Note again that turning children into orphans is simply a by-product of jihad). Jurists, trying to extract consistent principles out of the mass of ahadith, came to the conclusion that destroying homes was acceptable:
From the Hanafi book of jurisprudence, the Hedayah (see Jihad entry): "[...]"...the Muslims must then with God's assistance attack the infidels with all manner of warlike engines (as the Prophet did by the people of Ta'if), and must also set fire to their habitations (in the same manner as the Prophet fired Baweera), and must inundate them with water and tear up their plantations and tread down their grain because by these means they will become weakened, and their resolution will fail and their force be broken; these means are, therefore, all sanctified by the law."
http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Hughes/j.htm
at February 23, 2008 8:30 AM
PMK sez:
'shouldn't today's Jews be accepted and respected by all Muslims as fellow children of Allah?'
Please! Don't even go there. Allah is not G-d, don't insult the children of Israel!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at February 23, 2008 8:38 AM
Thank you for the most illuminating postings, Kinana of Khaybar!
It appears that Qaradawi, a.k.a. Satan Claus, is either a master of taqiyya or is an astonishingly ignorant "reformer" of Islam who would be thrown into outer darkness by the Righteously Indignant Jew Hater and Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Sheikh Tantawi (whose farts smell like rose blossoms, just like Mohammad's did. It's true!)
Posted by: Lex
at February 23, 2008 9:54 AM
What Muslim clerics have to say about suicide bombing. The Oxford-based Malayist jurist, Shaykh Muhammad Afifi al-Akiti, issued his landmark fatwa on suicide bombing titled 'Defending the Transgressed, by Censuring the Reckless against the Killing of Civilians'. Also, one of Shia Islam's highest ranking marja clerics, Ayatollah al-Udhma Yousof al-Sanei also decreed a fatwa against suicide bombing, declaring it as a "terrorist act" (jeez, you just realized?). There are many scholastic refutations of suicide bombings. Ihsanic Intelligence, an Islamic think-tank, published their 2-year study into suicide bombings, titled 'The Hijacked Caravan', which concluded that, "The technique of suicide bombing is anathema, antithetical and abhorrent to Islam. It is considered forbidden... a reprehensible innovation in the Islamic ... an enormity of sin combining suicide and murder and theologically an act which has consequences of eternal damnation." Those were only a few examples. Wow, so you pull up the idiotic quote of one cleric and try to make it look as if everyone agrees? So, I can say, Joseph Kony of the Lord's Resistance Army represents Christianity.
Posted by: Comment
at February 24, 2008 12:00 AM
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