The clock is ticking. The countdown has begun. They are here, they are among us. What are we going to do? (retorical question) . nothing to be sure. hopefully we in N America will learn something from watching Europe fall, though I feel the infiltration will be far too great by that time to do much except a mass deportation. something future generations will resent and despise us for. We're boned.

Posted by: MoBlows at February 26, 2008 10:28 AM

There's another angle to consider, based on the "Mozart" analogy above: What if the Palestinians, as well as jihadists the world over, put the same kind of energy they now put into hatred, rage, and violence, into something constructive?

Their present mission is a waste of human potential embodied by the empty, jaded look on that little girl's face.

Posted by: MarisolJW at February 26, 2008 10:35 AM

This article highlights the folly of the "long war" postulated by President Bush. If it's to be a long war, then even today's children become, in the brutal logic of war, tomorrow's combatants. Every infantryman recognizes that, in a few short years, today's child will be old enough to kill his own son.

In short, children become targets.

Posted by: HotSpur at February 26, 2008 10:36 AM

Killer bunnies and mini-jihadis.

Sounds like a children's book from Hell.

Islam: the real grim fairy tale.

(Cute kid. Pity.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 26, 2008 10:40 AM

Such a pretty little girl, her visage already showing signs of the poisonous hatred that will eat her away. Soon, she won't be needing those pretty ribbons, and we might catch a glimpse of her sad, China blue eyes, but that will be all for her, if she is lucky enough to survive the wrath of the Religion of Peace. Really, the followers of the prophet destroy themselves more than they destroy us. Oh, hey may get lucky and take a couple hundred or a couple thousand of us at a time, but look at the reality. They destroy themselves daily, on a molecular level almost, via shariah, with their wretched 'honor' customs. You have to wonder how many generations of muslims will never be due to the paranoid men in the family having killed the off their wily womenfolk , and now must look elsewhere for some tilth to plow.

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at February 26, 2008 10:51 AM

That sweet little girl's expression encapsulates the problem of living within Islam. As an innocent child, she still has the natural law written in her heart and her pained expression shows the conflict between following that law and the subjugation of her conscience to an unnatural lifestyle. To brainwash a child to hate people who are different from her is the ultimate form of parental mismanagement and child abuse.

The idea that Muslims can lecture us on morality is simply ludicrous. They are correct that as a culture we aren't moral anymore, but their belief system institutionalizes immorality so their moral superiority falls a little flat. Same garbage, different trash bag.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at February 26, 2008 10:55 AM

The face of an angel, clothed in the devil's own garb. How sad she looks.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at February 26, 2008 10:59 AM

The development of a jihadist's mind

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200475901923&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Posted by: Mackie at February 26, 2008 11:00 AM

That's a girl?

And he slit a person's throat at 5? I thought that the record for that was held by a Taliban 12 year old.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 26, 2008 11:09 AM

Does that young lady have a toy AK-47? Talk about creepy.

Posted by: tanstaafl at February 26, 2008 11:13 AM

Isabel, right on! I can imagine the conversation she had while getting ready to have her picture taken; 'but mummy, I don't want to wear those yucky clothes, and have my piccy taken. I want to play dollys'. I can imagine her mum smacking her face, and telling her to be a good child. 'Smile for the camera, this pic is important for your future, as important as eating your veggies.'

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at February 26, 2008 11:27 AM

I agree, cute as all get out but the eye expression tells the whole story. How incredibly sad.

Posted by: gymgal at February 26, 2008 12:04 PM

This is the kind of thread where it is appropriate to link to LGF's Pali child abuse slide show.

Posted by: Shy Guy at February 26, 2008 12:19 PM

WOW - MAYBE THEY SHOULD ASK ROBERTS ADVICE !!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7264903.stm

Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts
By Robert Piggott
Religious affairs correspondent, BBC News

The scholars say they are returning to the original values of Islam

Turkey is preparing to publish a document that represents a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion.

The country's powerful Department of Religious Affairs has commissioned a team of theologians at Ankara University to carry out a fundamental revision of the Hadith, the second most sacred text in Islam after the Koran.

The Hadith is a collection of thousands of sayings reputed to come from the Prophet Muhammad.

As such, it is the principal guide for Muslims in interpreting the Koran and the source of the vast majority of Islamic law, or Sharia.

This is kind of akin to the Christian Reformation. Not exactly the same, but... it's changing the theological foundations of [the] religion

Fadi Hakura,
Turkey expert, Chatham House

But the Turkish state has come to see the Hadith as having an often negative influence on a society it is in a hurry to modernise, and believes it responsible for obscuring the original values of Islam.

It says that a significant number of the sayings were never uttered by Muhammad, and even some that were need now to be reinterpreted.

'Reformation'

Commentators say the very theology of Islam is being reinterpreted in order to effect a radical renewal of the religion.

Its supporters say the spirit of logic and reason inherent in Islam at its foundation 1,400 years ago are being rediscovered. Some believe it could represent the beginning of a reformation in the religion.

Some messages ban women from travelling without their husband's permission... But this isn't a religious ban. It came about because it simply wasn't safe for a woman to travel alone

Prof Mehmet Gormez,
Hadith expert,
Department of Religious Affairs

Turkish officials have been reticent about the revision of the Hadith until now, aware of the controversy it is likely to cause among traditionalist Muslims, but they have spoken to the BBC about the project, and their ambitious aims for it.

The forensic examination of the Hadiths has taken place in Ankara University's School of Theology.

An adviser to the project, Felix Koerner, says some of the sayings - also known individually as "hadiths" - can be shown to have been invented hundreds of years after the Prophet Muhammad died, to serve the purposes of contemporary society.

"Unfortunately you can even justify through alleged hadiths, the Muslim - or pseudo-Muslim - practice of female genital mutilation," he says.

"You can find messages which say 'that is what the Prophet ordered us to do'. But you can show historically how they came into being, as influences from other cultures, that were then projected onto Islamic tradition."

The argument is that Islamic tradition has been gradually hijacked by various - often conservative - cultures, seeking to use the religion for various forms of social control.

Leaders of the Hadith project say successive generations have embellished the text, attributing their political aims to the Prophet Muhammad himself.

Revolutionary

Turkey is intent on sweeping away that "cultural baggage" and returning to a form of Islam it claims accords with its original values and those of the Prophet.

Women are re-examining their portrayal in the scriptures

But this is where the revolutionary nature of the work becomes apparent. Even some sayings accepted as being genuinely spoken by Muhammad have been altered and reinterpreted.

Prof Mehmet Gormez, a senior official in the Department of Religious Affairs and an expert on the Hadith, gives a telling example.

"There are some messages that ban women from travelling for three days or more without their husband's permission and they are genuine.

"But this isn't a religious ban. It came about because in the Prophet's time it simply wasn't safe for a woman to travel alone like that. But as time has passed, people have made permanent what was only supposed to be a temporary ban for safety reasons."

The project justifies such bold interference in the 1,400-year-old content of the Hadith by rigorous academic research.

Prof Gormez points out that in another speech, the Prophet said "he longed for the day when a woman might travel long distances alone".

So, he argues, it is clear what the Prophet's goal was.

Original spirit

Yet, until now, the ban has remained in the text, and helps to restrict the free movement of some Muslim women to this day.

There's also violence against women within families, including sexual harassment... This does not exist in Islam... we have to explain that to them

Hulya Koc, a "vaize"

As part of its aggressive programme of renewal, Turkey has given theological training to 450 women, and appointed them as senior imams called "vaizes".

They have been given the task of explaining the original spirit of Islam to remote communities in Turkey's vast interior.

One of the women, Hulya Koc, looked out over a sea of headscarves at a town meeting in central Turkey and told the women of the equality, justice and human rights guaranteed by an accurate interpretation of the Koran - one guided and confirmed by the revised Hadith.

She says that, at the moment, Islam is being widely used to justify the violent suppression of women.

"There are honour killings," she explains.

"We hear that some women are being killed when they marry the wrong person or run away with someone they love.

"There's also violence against women within families, including sexual harassment by uncles and others. This does not exist in Islam... we have to explain that to them."

'New Islam'

According to Fadi Hakura, an expert on Turkey from Chatham House in London, Turkey is doing nothing less than recreating Islam - changing it from a religion whose rules must be obeyed, to one designed to serve the needs of people in a modern secular democracy.

He says that to achieve it, the state is fashioning a new Islam.

"This is kind of akin to the Christian Reformation," he says.

"Not exactly the same, but if you think, it's changing the theological foundations of [the] religion. "

Fadi Hakura believes that until now secularist Turkey has been intent on creating a new politics for Islam.

Now, he says, "they are trying to fashion a new Islam."

Significantly, the "Ankara School" of theologians working on the new Hadith have been using Western critical techniques and philosophy.

They have also taken an even bolder step - rejecting a long-established rule of Muslim scholars that later (and often more conservative) texts override earlier ones.

"You have to see them as a whole," says Fadi Hakura.

"You can't say, for example, that the verses of violence override the verses of peace. This is used a lot in the Middle East, this kind of ideology.

"I cannot impress enough how fundamental [this change] is."

Posted by: Churchill1939 at February 26, 2008 12:22 PM

The father has clearly acted in violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 2.

"Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace."

His parental rights should be legally terminated.

Posted by: skevin at February 26, 2008 12:27 PM

Ousting Islam from the shores of the United States will be part of my life's work until the day I pass from this Earth.

Yes, the Anvil is back online.

Damn the torpedoes...

Posted by: Foehammer at February 26, 2008 12:29 PM

Raised on 'shades of gray' and moral equivalence and 'tolerance' it is almost embarrassing to come face to face with evil that is so effing EVIL. So transparently warped, vicious and anti-human.

Evil as laughably crude as Freddy Kruger and Michael Myers. How do you tell the 'bad guys'? They're the ones who teach little children to slit throats, blow up old ladies and then pass out candy etc.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at February 26, 2008 12:34 PM

"I'm not suggesting I have any answers to this. I don't. But it's time we – and especially social services experts – start looking for them. Because these days, it's the jihadi generation, and it's coming at you, going strong."

I think Ms Esman's statement that she doesn't have an answere to the problem, except turning it over to social service experts, is the mind-set of most Western social scientist' today, and the one that insures that we'll be living with ever-increasing Muslim terrorism in Western socities for a long time to come. In short, we just have to live with it.

Granted, there's little we can do to resolve the problem in Islamic societies, but the problem is perfectly solveable in the Western world. To begin with, we don't have to compound the problem by allowing more and more Muslims to immigrate to our Western societies. And secondly, we don't have to tolerate the establishment of Mosques and Madrassas in our cities, staffed by people dedicated to undermining our institutions and principles. Thirdly, we don't have to allow current Muslim residents, citizens or non-citizens, to remain in our countries, once it is determind they can't function as loyal citizens of a Secular Western State.

We don't have to turn the problem over to social service agencies, and we don't have to live with it. We just have to decide that we don't want to live with it, and then take the appropriate actions.

There's the answer that eludes Ms Esman.

Problem solved!

Posted by: rational at February 26, 2008 12:37 PM

When I look upon the face of this small girl filled with innocence and potential being chained & molded by the violent ideology of parents caught in the grasp of Satan himself, I am once again reminded of the prophetic words by Golda Meyer – Israel’s great stateswoman & Prime Minister: “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us” What monsters who would turn such innocents into weapons of Islamic conquest! God Help us!

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at February 26, 2008 12:40 PM

well it is not surprising why do you think Hitler came up with the Hitler youth as a twig is bent so grows a branch the Japanese miniature tree are an example of how you can mold. Something and children as young as five, well they're able to think and reason right from wrong. Have to go on, what their parents tell them is right and wrong. Your mind is still pliable at that age and can be molded why do you think it is so easy for child of that age to learn a foreign language, so it is very easy to teach hatred to a young child and especially the type of hatred that this child was being taught at that age. They don't really understand the concepts of right and wrong, though they do understand why to please their parents is a good thing. All we have to do to see an example of this in our countryand look at two different groups, the neo-Nazis and their race hatred and their belief in the superiority of the white race. They teach their children from the time they can walk by the time they're young adults are fully indoctrinated. And believe fully in the neo-Nazi philosophy. The same with the Liberals and California their children are taught not prejudge and that is the worst thing they can do to judge someone on a race, religion or belief system no matter that , that system might want to kill them. But because different, they cannot reject it because their taught it is wrong to reject something because different no matter that the differences might kill them. Like the Palestinians and Muslims throughout the Middle East. They indoctrinate all children in my own opinion. This is a form of child abuse, and well a child needs discipline. They do need the freedom to learn and make up their own mind as they grow in what they will believe

Posted by: doglover at February 26, 2008 12:49 PM

Luke, one more time:

"If they do this when the wood is green, what will happen when the wood is dry?"

When John Updike used this line as the epigraph for his first book, "The Poorhouse Fair," he meant it to be a comment on his protagonists, who were all old people. But the Biblical line fits even better as a comment, as here, on the murderously inculcated young of Islam.

Posted by: Hugh at February 26, 2008 1:08 PM

Mohammed-Jugend. How sad.

Posted by: MP at February 26, 2008 1:18 PM

Let's see: grow up to be a jihadi killer or marry some jihadi killer in an arranged marriage...

Where is the outcry from all the "it's for the children types about this girl and the brainwashing performed on her by her "parents?"

Islam is rabies and its followers are a rabid animal - how does one deal with a rabid animal?

Posted by: HOV Dummy at February 26, 2008 1:29 PM

The child's appearance suggests that he, or more likely she, is the descendant of Europeans, either those who were among "the Franks" who came during the Crusades, or those who were kidnapped by Muslims and brought back, as slaves, to Dar al-Islam, and then, sooner or later, subject to the pressure that forced them to accept Islam.

Posted by: Hugh at February 26, 2008 1:35 PM

One wonders what expression will beset this innocent little girl's face when she eventually realizes what her future holds...second class status,possible sexual mutilation,and a life surrounded by those who hate....truly sad.

Posted by: skydash at February 26, 2008 1:48 PM

Yet our nation shuts its eyes, instead choosing to refute or ignore Islam’s ominous, apocalyptic wants. This child is, but, one of a sea of aspiring mass-murderers of non-believers, whose parents (I use the term loosely) hold great expectations for their children, the Jihad’s future generation.
Europe is dead-meat; they, as usual, will sit on their cowardly and politically-correct haunches, with the expectation that we, when all else fails, shall pull their chestnuts out of the Jihad fire.
Meanwhile back in America: we are doing battle not only with the likes of the aforementioned, our own Islamo-fascists but our version or clone of politically-correct, wannabe, Euros.
We should not be smug; the Euros are kaput… indeed; however, there are numerous Americans whom loath this nation or, simply, choose hibernation over reality.

Posted by: ballzack at February 26, 2008 1:50 PM

I can't refrain from suspecting that somehow the European Union bureaucracy is a silent and willful partner to all this.

Posted by: pythagoras at February 26, 2008 1:54 PM

Foehammer:

You are aware that Barak Obama is a Muslim, are you not?? (His Chicago 'church' was recently proved to be both a phony and a haven for American Muslims in hiding).

If he is elected president (God forbid), which is looking more and more likely, our work will be made TEN times harder.

The world must know and learn that Islam teaches and practices first degree murder on an unlimited scale and, therefore, for this reason, Islam must never again be given the free pass from the world that it has been receiving for all these centuries!

Posted by: pythagoras at February 26, 2008 2:02 PM

Welcome back, Foehammer! Where have you been? No matter, just glad you're back!! :-)

Posted by: champ at February 26, 2008 2:04 PM

pythagoras- on Obama
(His Chicago 'church' was recently proved to be both a phony and a haven for American Muslims in hiding).

Proved? I'm from Missouri, show me.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at February 26, 2008 2:25 PM

Pardon the anecdotal evidence, involving, I'm afraid, "a friend of a friend..."

A friend recounted a discussion he had with his friend, whose father served in WW2 and who fought on the ground in Germany as the Allies closed in and mopped up in the closing weeks. The father who had served remained haunted by something he was forced to do by circumstances: in liberating a particular town from the Nazis, extreme care had to be taken for sudden attempts at ambush by desperate Nazis. As the father walked down an alley, around the corner came a figure with a rifle, and the father shot and killed what turned out to be a boy age 12 at most. It turns out the Nazis used little boys to fight and kill precisely because (among other reasons) they expected the ethically "weak" Allies to be ethically discomfitted. (It was probably also a way to inculcate the Nazi "values" when the wood is green, as with the Muslim father of the article above.)

As the French journalist/philosopher Bernard Henri-Levy has written, many Third World countries (in Africa, both Muslim and non-Muslim) continue to use children in battle. As with other pernicious cultural habits (honor killing, FGM, etc.), Islam probably nourishes this tendency more than other Third World cultures, even as this tendency transcends the cultural boundary of Islam.

Posted by: cantor at February 26, 2008 2:33 PM

The idea that Muslims can lecture us on morality is simply ludicrous. They are correct that as a culture we aren't moral anymore, but their belief system institutionalizes immorality so their moral superiority falls a little flat. Same garbage, different trash bag.

Isabella,

I take exception to the idea that as a culture we aren't moral anymore. Whose morals? We're all sinners. You made me think of Jefferson's words regarding some (they aren't all) of man's inalienable rights, among them life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Even those whom some consider the most immoral: gays, couples having children out of wedlock, etc. aren't seeking to deprive any of us of our rights. They are looking to "do their own thing".
Compare that to some Muslims who believe anyone who doesn't believe as they do isn't fit to live. It's become a maligned term but if ever there was a cause for "moral relativism", this is it.
We have murderers and child abusers in the best of societies. Calling the culture immoral is a bit much.

Posted by: PMK at February 26, 2008 2:57 PM

sarcasm on/

it kind of makes a tear swell up in the back of my eye. The parental pride: killing infidels, one throat at a time!

sarcasm off/

who will rid this world of the misfortune inflicted upon us by islam?

Posted by: David England at February 26, 2008 3:26 PM

At the risk of revealing an embarrassing familiarity with pop culture, isn't this a picture of Rosie O'Donnell's kid (gag), Vivian Rose? Decades ago in the U.S. there was revolutionary chic. Now, we may see the 21st century version of that sentiment: jihadist chic.

Posted by: sheik yer booty at February 26, 2008 3:36 PM

pythagoras- on Obama
(His Chicago 'church' was recently proved to be both a phony and a haven for American Muslims in hiding

PYTH, is there a link for this??? Maybe we could send it to the MSM?

Posted by: gymgal at February 26, 2008 3:49 PM

Good God. And the beautiful blue eyes - so empty.

Jesus, Please save us from the Islamic Murdering Barbarians who indoctrinate their own innocent children.

Good God. I think I'm going to vomit.

Posted by: darcy at February 26, 2008 4:00 PM

Today is the anniversary of

February 26,1992: Khojaly Massacre

February 26,1993: In the United States, the first World Trade Center bombing in New York City

February 26,2002: Gujarat India. In a horrific and senseless attack, a group of militant Muslims set fire to a train carrying Hindu activists. Fifty-nine innocents are burned to death, including fifteen children.

This kid has at least a chance to be renormalized, where as the people in the above incidents never had a chance

Be warned very graphic

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/on-this-day-feb-26.html

Posted by: shiva at February 26, 2008 4:21 PM

When will our government stand up to this kind of hate speech and child abuse??

Posted by: antishock8 at February 26, 2008 4:35 PM

O/T

Well it’s a good thing that Washington has informed us that there is no sign of terrorism with the power outage. Glad those guys are on the job. Phew.

As a power plant comes under higher loading, the output voltage goes down. This is a way to control the flow of power throughout the grid. It can lead to cascading problems.

If voltage drops to a certain level, power plants shut themselves down. Some version of this probably happened in Florida and has resulted in eight plants going down. Florida is a good illustration of how vulnerable our power grid is to a coordinated attack.

Posted by: pez at February 26, 2008 4:41 PM

Some serial killers are born..but most are made. Here before us is the serial killer in waiting..the ultimate poster child. Islam's ultimate, and perhaps only, product..their gift to mankind..murder.

Posted by: pismopal at February 26, 2008 5:00 PM

E = every

V = vile

I = imagination

L = lived out

Posted by: champ at February 26, 2008 5:21 PM

If anyone doubts the true, unnatural character of Islam, there it is.

It's unnatural in it's ideas of morality. It produces unnatural parents, who are totaly void of the natural instincts of a parent to protect their children from harm, and are even willing to see their lives snuffed out in the service of an unnatural God, and his unnatural demands on his followers.

Islam is just another, bigger, version of the Charles Manson family.

Posted by: rational at February 26, 2008 5:43 PM

She is a beautiful little girl, probably a "revert's" child.
It's a shame that little innocents become rotten adults, it has been that way since the beginning of time.
She is also a "Lilly White". Look that up.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at February 26, 2008 5:45 PM

pythagoras says:

"The world must know and learn that Islam teaches and practices first degree murder on an unlimited scale and, therefore, for this reason, Islam must never again be given the free pass from the world that it has been receiving for all these centuries!"

Islam hasn't been receiving a free pass over the centuries. Its free pass in the West is less than 50 years old. The likes of Bishop Fulton J Sheen didn't give it a free pass in 1950, nor did Hilaire Belloc in 1938. Churchill came out with his well known (at least by us) penetrating descriptions of Islam in his book "The River War", published in 1899, which was based on his past experiences with Islamic warriors in the Sudan and the Northwest Frontier between 1896 and 1898, Theodore Roosevelt in 1905, the Methodist preacher John Wesley sometime around 1760, and who could ever forget John Quincy Adams's papers from 1829, outlining the doublespeak and treachery at the heart of that religion and its adherents? Today, these learned men would be branded as bigots and racists thanks to the suicidal and destructive political correctness which has been infused into us since around 1970.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at February 26, 2008 5:52 PM

Churchill 1939,

THIS WOULD BE AMAZING!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7264903.stm

I hope it works,and these theologians don't get murdered for "apostasy"(sic)

Then maybe we would see this "religion of peace"everyone is always talking about.

And now back to the original discussion.That child looks so much like my little boy when he was 3-4,except his eyes never looked so utterly tragic(and his hair was MUCH longer))it saddensme,I want to give that child a hug and tell her? a story,but then unbeliever that I am I'd probably get my throat cut!

Posted by: KittyBootz at February 26, 2008 6:23 PM

And what will become of the boy?

If he is lucky, he will learn from the example made of Dear Old Dad, and steer away from Islamic extremism completely

Judging from the ear-stud in the left ear lobe, I would think this poor child to be a girl; and no, I doubt very seriously that she actually cut someone's throat at age 5.

In any case, has child social services taken the child out of this "home?"

And why not?

Posted by: witness at February 26, 2008 6:40 PM

PMK said:

"I take exception to the idea that as a culture we aren't moral anymore. Whose morals?"

Well let's take a look. We've got children walking into schools and universities with disturbing frequency shooting and killing their fellow classmates.

We've got the public school system generously teaching our kids that sex is good and they're going to do it anyway so here's a condom now go enjoy yourselves. How many thirteen year old girls are mature enough to handle the intricacies of birth control and or the emotional deluge that comes with having sex? Are they planning to get married when they are fourteen because if not I see no reason for them to date. And why aren't they being taught that they are valuable and that they have life choices at that age, and if they give up those life choices by getting pregnant or gaining an STD, or if they get drunk and drive without a license and kill somebody, then they know what they will be doing for the next twenty years of their lives. And why aren't parents doing this teaching?

We've got the gay rights activists pushing for AIDs education for younger and younger age groups in the public schools. Can you honestly tell me why a five year old needs to know about AIDs? Are we afraid that if a five year old has sex they might want to be careful having sex with someone who is infected? Why would we destroy a fiver year old's innocence by even telling them about it in the first place? If that five year old is raped or sexually abused, because of their size and age they are not in any position to defend themselves from an adult who wants to abuse them. So why the need to warn them about that subject?

And if we are such a moral society, why aren't parents more careful in protecting their children? Or is it that there are a lot of immoral people out there who don't have a problem having sex with kids? This morning I heard on the radio that a band teacher in the vicinity was arrested for soliciting sex with a thirteen year old girl. I've heard that a lot in the past five to ten years. I never heard that from anyone when I was growing up, not that it never happened but it didn't happen with the frequency it happens now. Would you say people who do that are moral or immoral?

What about all the folks who frequent pornographic sites on the internet? There must be a reason why it is a multi-billion dollar business. And how about adultery? How many people (and you don't have to say who you are, just think about it) met their present spouse and started dating them while they were still married to someone else. Moral or immoral? And with that behavior would you say the spouse who found out and was devastated was more happy or less happy after they found out about the affair and that they were being replaced. And would you say it is moral or immoral to take a marriage of ten or twenty years or so, where two people have worked and built their family and finances and one decides to bug out because they like somebody else better, and leave the other one to struggle financially raising the kids all by themselves? I have so many friends who have gone through this.

And what about the lying that is an obligatory piece of the adultery puzzle? Or how about those who lie in order to gain an edge in business? Moral or immoral?

I haven't even touched on the illegal alien debacle. Would you say it is moral for people to sneak through our borders, find a job and buy a house, have five other families move in with five to ten cars parked in front of their neighbors houses and then, as happened in my friend's neighborhood, sit on the window ledge in and upstairs bedroom, getting drunk on cervesa and heaving the empty bottles into the next door neighbors pool? And why was it that after the INS appeared after the police were called, the house was completely vacated that evening? If they weren't doing something wrong aside from exploding glass bottles on the patio next door, why leave in such a hurry?

I'm just getting started, but as this is a long post already I'll stop here. And sorry but the old, "we're all sinners" is a lame excuse for continuing to do shitty things to other people.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at February 26, 2008 7:00 PM

The expression on this young girl's face is quite revealing. She just senses something isn't kosher.

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at February 26, 2008 7:24 PM

Accelerated Childhood of Muslim girls:
5 years old - Learn to slit throats
6 years old - Become 3rd wife of Uncle Abdul
7 years old - Phonetically memorize the Qur'an
8 years old - Begin wearing hijab and accepting your ignorance and weakness as Allah has revealed.
9 years old - Begin breeding and repeat cycle with new spawns.

Posted by: Xero G at February 26, 2008 7:54 PM

Poor baby...look at the distress in her eyes...soon it will be hatred. The sickos who do this deserve hell. (and Im sure Allah is more than obliged)

Posted by: TS at February 26, 2008 8:26 PM

Isabellathecrusader:

The western democracies STILL possess moral superiority of a type that will NEVER be found in the Islamic world: westerners value human life in its essence.

Although I certainly share some of your concerns about the state of moral behavior in the western democracies, the west's defending of human life (such as it has declined over the past several decades) trumps any claims of moral superiority by Islamic personnel. (Could there be anything MORE evil than strapping bombs onto children and blowing them up???).

Valuing human life still makes up for a lot.

Posted by: pythagoras at February 26, 2008 9:57 PM

Spirit of 1683:

I admit I oversimplified the issue and was overly focused on the twentieth century. However

The fact that Islam is even permitted to exist anywhere in the world after its centuries of having unleashed unfathomable horrors upon the world is free pass enough for me.

I do see a fundamental failure of the western democracies to educate their people about the homicidal nature and supremist agenda that comprise Islamic doctrine as taught in the Kuran. If western leaders had educated its citizenry about Islam's inherent malignance as should have been the case, Islam would have been unable to infiltrate the western world's vital institutions to the dangerous degree it now has managed to accomplish.

The western democracies certainly didn't put defending themselves from Islam on the same priority as for example economic and technological development. I readily admit this is not a free pass, but it was a far greater pass than Islam ever deserved and ultimately Islam used this pass to advance its agenda.

I also think for example, that western Europe paid far too little heed to the Ottoman Empire and its destruction of Christianity in Asia Minor in relatively recent centuries; the 1922 destruction of Smyrna, Greece (a jihad) for example by the Turkish army was done with the full knowledge of the western powers as the USA, France, and the UK all had battle ships stationed right in the Smyrna harbor and even filmed the city's destruction (I have viewed some of this film footage too!!). THAT got a free pass as I do not remember Turkey ever being held accountable for this three days-long horror in the annals of history which resulted in more fatalitites (Greek and Armenian Christian mostly) than the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

I suspect western Europe wasn't paying enough attention to the Islamic infiltration of the Balkan region over the centuries either. Clearly, no one else would have been in a position to notice much less care (and evidently no major powers anywhere did that I am aware of). And now look at what has happened from not noticing the Balkans' jihad: Kosovo and Bosnia. The lack of notice by the major powers of the Balkans' Islamization has greatly benefited Islam in this region. This may not have been a free pass, but, again, it was far more of a pass than Islam ever deserved.

Nor did western Europeans ever really scrutinize the origins of anti-Semitism in Europe (which may have made its way to Europe from the Caucasus region which was Islamized in the seventeenth century, and, as part of Russia may have been able to make its way into Europe through commerce between Russia and western Europe; eastern Europe is also strongly anti-Semitic and not surprisingly Islam has controlled much of this area too over the centuries without sufficient outcry from the west or anywhere else that I am aware of).

I strongly believe European anti-Semitism to have originated from within Islam (the Kuran makes repeated calls for the extermination of the Jews) and this to me has been something of a free pass for Islam, as I do not see that western Europeans have ever really having challenged anti-Semitism on a noticeable scale (even after Hitler took full advantage of European anti-semitism in the holocaust).

Posted by: pythagoras at February 26, 2008 10:38 PM

"Could there be anything MORE evil than strapping bombs onto children and blowing them up???."

Pythagoras,

Yes. We kill our own offspring in the womb in the name of a constitutionally protected "right". Our protected right trumps the unborn's right to be protected.

We can't say we value human life if we only value some human life and not others. If we do we are just as hypocritical as the Muslims.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at February 26, 2008 10:41 PM

memo to gymgal (and poetcomic1:

The website "Sons of Apes and Pigs" recently published a press release on Senator Obama's "church" (the United Church of Christ in Chicago).

The title of the article is "AMERICA IS BEING FOOLED BY BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA."

There is a link at JW to this site. Go there and read the article for yourself.

But I already KNEW that OBAMA was a Muslim.

Posted by: pythagoras at February 26, 2008 10:44 PM

Pythagoras,

Get a load of this article on the women behind Obama. Interesting and chilling.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at February 26, 2008 10:48 PM

pythagoras- I believe history and Huntington state that England noticed what was happening - and sided with the muslims as a 'balance' against Russia?

Obama obviously, by name, was born a muslim. Is he now? Don't know, don't care. Probably not. He has enough links to muslims to make it a problem anyway. And enough other issues, too.

Although not to most Americans, it seems. They are opening their arms to embrace him. Not the slightest bit concerned about what he stands for. Just hypnotised by his soothing speech. They also don't believe terrorism or islam is a threat it seems.

It seems only us crazies think islam is a problem. The media keeps saying 'some groups' are being devisive about islam when they should be practicing tolerance. Well that is us.

Posted by: Borg at February 26, 2008 11:03 PM

Where was that photo taken? Was there a photographer credited? Was it in England? Or the middle east?

Us hatemongers want to know.

Posted by: Borg at February 26, 2008 11:06 PM

Just watched the Democratic debate on TV. It amazed me just how shallow the questions to Obama and Clinton were, as if they were deliberately designed to elicite answers as shallow as the questions.

In this violent age of Muslim terrorism, it would have been perfectly reasonable to ask, "Do you believe that Islamic theology has anything to do with Muslim terrorism?"

It would have been interesting to hear their answers.

These two -- and especially Obama -- are getting a free ride.

Posted by: rational at February 26, 2008 11:39 PM

Posted by: pythagoras at February 26, 2008 2:02 PM

pythagoras,

I love you bro, but I cannot let this loose comment go unchallenged. I think Robert has put it quite perfectly and accurately here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020093.php#comments

Regards,

awake

Posted by: awake at February 26, 2008 11:53 PM

Just watched the Democratic debate on TV.

Posted by: rational at February 26, 2008 11:39 PM

Me too. Bias was noticable, but in actuality, Clinton destroyed Obama, but alas, to no avail.

Obama's mutitude of problematic positions in the general, well that I am quite looking forward to.

Dead man walking, at least in my estimation.

Posted by: awake at February 26, 2008 11:58 PM

Isabella: The reason to teach five year olds about AIDS is the danger of blood transfer, not sex. It's the same as teaching them about MRSA.

Posted by: skevin at February 27, 2008 2:04 AM

Here is a interesting site on "Hilter youth"

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/index.html

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at February 27, 2008 3:39 AM

* Hitler speaks to top Nazi leaders about his youth at Nuremberg (1934) :57

"It is our wish and will that this State and this Reich shall endure in the millenniums to come. We can be happy in the knowledge that this future belongs to us completely. (applause) While the older generation could still waver, the younger generation has pledged itself to us and is ours, body and soul!"

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at February 27, 2008 3:52 AM

"Isabella: The reason to teach five year olds about AIDS is the danger of blood transfer, not sex. It's the same as teaching them about MRSA."

Bullshit. It's to teach kids that homosexuality is normal. And it is wrong to burden innocent children with somebody else's sexual baggage. A five year old child taught about AIDs will have the same look on their face as the child in the picture above.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at February 27, 2008 4:05 AM

I knew it! The kid has been fed the spice melange, a.k.a., worm shit, the most important and valuable substance in the universe. It's from Arrakis. It gives you special psychic powers that come in real handy in a fight, and also turns your eyes blue.

My fear is that this child could be the next Paul "Muad'Dib" Atreides! All he needs is a sandworm or two to rally his fellow Fremen and ride to victory over the despised Imperial House Corrino.

All sorts of "earthy" parallels suggest themselves. Use your imagination.

Posted by: Lex at February 27, 2008 8:50 AM

Well, excuse me! I just noticed the pink thingies on the girl's (?) head. That would make her Alia, Paul Muad'dib's sister, and even more cunningly lethal than Paul! Quite a witch, that one!

Posted by: Lex at February 27, 2008 9:03 AM

awake:

I promise that you're going to absolutely HATE me by the time I get finished here!!! Nor do I care (people have tried to cut my head off before so I don't scare easily).

Mr. Spencer is highly professional but not infallible. Nor does he care to make unnecessary waves, which is not his style. What he wrote on this matter in the past was fine, based on the knowledge he had available to him at that time. But somebody at "Sons of Apes ansd Pigs" investigated the Senator's church and found it to be a fraudulent haven for Muslims in hiding (the IRS is now investigating the same church for fraud too).

Alas, Obama is still a Muslim. He has also been observed practicing Islam until the age of eleven, at which point it is imposible to leave Islam legally or otherwise, as the mosques do NOT permit it.

Now, by the way, when was the last time you saw a Muslim object to Obama's candidacy? Never. The fact that Muslims adulate this guy SHOULD be a red flag all by itself. (Islamic doctrine is anti-democracy).

Another red flag is Obama's many pro-Islam political views on world issues despite his claims to be Christian.

If Obama REALLY left Islam there would be a contract out on him as for every other Muslim who decides to leave Islam after age six (it is aviolation of Islamic law punishable by execution!!). Obama would be under the aegis of an official witness protection program and NOT running for a major political office in the USA.

Please read the article at "Sons of Apes and Pigs" website and at that point take it up with the investigators of Obama's "church" if you still have a problem with it.

Posted by: pythagoras at February 27, 2008 2:22 PM