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February 28, 2008

Fitzgerald: Another sweetly sinister opinion poll

About 93 percent of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims are moderates and only seven percent are politically radical, according to the poll, based on more than 50,000 interviews. -- from this news article

These opinion polls, where it is Muslims who are being polled, are always skewed -- but not, as with other opinion polls, skewed now this way and now that way. These are skewed in only one way. No Muslim, being interviewed as to whether or not he "approves" of a terrorist act, is going to say he approves of it if he does not. In other words, there will be no cases in which someone will declare, falsely, that he approves. Compare this to a public opinion poll about support for candidates, in which one can imagine, in a despotism, people lying about whom they will support, or even in a democracy, lying in order to meet the expectations, as they see it, of the interviewer. How many Americans right now may be afraid of being thought either "racist" (so answering one way) or "sexist" (so answering another)?

They are especially skewed because Muslims know perfectly well when the results are to be disseminated among non-Muslims, and they know perfectly well that non-Muslims are watching keenly for signs of support for violence.

So the figure of 91 million is not the absolute largest number of Muslims who support the most outrageous and famous attack on non-Muslim civilians, that of 9/11/2001, but the absolute rock-bottom number. And since it is a principle of Islam that "war is deception," since that injunction from Muhammad himself led to religiously-sanctioned dissimulation, that is not limited to Taqiyya (which originates in Shia Islam but is no longer limited to it) and Kitman ("mental reservation") but has become a perfectly normal and natural way for Muslims to deal with non-Muslims when speaking about Islam, the entire spectacle of this Opinion Poll is not one that should comfort anyone, but rather be seen as the ludicrous effort it always was intended to be, to calm our fears.

We discount many of the responses, as they are simply designed to allay non-Muslim fears. This is especially true since those fears, if they grow, might actually lead to an ending of Muslim migration to Infidel lands. That is something they do not wish to see stopped, not now and not ever. It might lead also to a hardening of Infidel attitudes toward Muslim demands, made at every level, for changes in the social arrangements (from women's gym hours) to those of the workplace (the demands for prayer rooms and time off, five times a day, for the canonical prayers), to public spaces (again, those prayer rooms or at least those "shared prayer rooms" that quickly become open for "Muslims Only"), to legal codes (demands for the Shari'a to be imposed on Muslims as a "community"), to political institutions (demands for changes in the basic understandings, including the rights guaranteed in this country by the Free Speech and Free Exercise clauses). Many Muslims wish to transform these so that they no longer constitute what they consider an "obstacle" to the spread, and future dominance, of Islam.

It is your guess, or mine, how many answered with a lie.

It is also your guess, and mine, as to how many who claim to have been opposed to the 9/11/2001 attacks nonetheless have no trouble defending terrorist attacks on, say, Israel by Hamas and Hizballah and Islamic Jihad and, before them all, by the PLO. They may also have no trouble defending the terrorism of Pakistani and Indian groups that have driven 400,000 Hindus out of Kashmir, and that result in bombs being set off in Mumbai and attacks on the Indian Parliament in Delhi. And how many of those answering now claim to be opposed to the 9/11/2001 attacks just the way some imams did, when they noisily joined Interfaith Vigils, only for the security services to subsequently discover that their real views -- sometimes caught on tape -- were quite other, forcing some of them to flee abroad, and others to lie low?

What do the defectors say, those who, just like KGB defectors during the Cold War, are the surest and truest guides to what Muslims are taught to think, what the attitudes and atmospherics of those growing up in states or societies or even families suffused with Islam, really think when they know there are no Infidels around to eavesdrop? We know what the defectors think. Ask Wafa Sultan. Or Nonie Darwish. Or Ibn Warraq. Or Irfan Khawaja. Or Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Or Ali Sina. To a man and a woman, they all think the same thing, about what Islam inculcates, and what a great many Muslims, the overwhelming majority of Muslims, therefore believe. And the numbers of those who support violent Jihad, through what we have no difficulty calling "terrorism" but that they consider to be legitimate "combat" or qitaal, would not then be 91 million, but five or ten times that number.

And what about those who don't support Jihad through terrorism? Oh, those? They support it through other means, through deployment of the Money Weapon, campaigns of Da'wa, demographic conquest from within the Bilad al-kufr. If the goal is the same -- the spread and dominance, all over the world, of Islam -- does it matter quite so much which instruments one chooses to further that goal? Is demographic conquest, are campaigns of Da'wa, less of a permanent threat?

Missing-the-pointness is the essence of this sweetly sinister, meant-to-comfort but deeply discomforting, opinion poll.

A word to the wise.

Keep your powder dry.

Count those spoons even faster.

Und so weiter.

Posted by Hugh at February 28, 2008 12:21 PM
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A moderate muslim is someone who questions 9/11,says that no jews showed up that day,Bush knew,Mossad involved,blah blah blah.

A politically radical muslim refers to the hijackers as the magnificent 19.


So we cant trust 93% of them and the rest want us dead.

JLP

Posted by: John Lee Pedimore [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 12:42 PM

I always thought the same thing. The negative numbers will always be higher because not every Muslim is going to admit up front that he supports jihad but a peaceful Muslim never will.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 1:08 PM

The problem and menace which Islam poses to the West (and the rest of the world) is the religious sanctification of the necessity for self-defense -- "defending" Islam and Mohammed against "offense" and "oppression" -- through qital, or physical combat.

This is the sentiment that needs to be polled. I think even with the tendency toward taqiyya, it would stick in the craw of proud Muslims too much to utter a denial of their God-given right to "defend" the honor and power of Islam. Besides, most Muslims probably think, more or less accurately, that Infidels themselves would think it counter-intuitive to balk at the idea of a People's "self-defense".

But balk we should -- not only because most of the "self-defense" touted by Muslims either masks offensive enterprises, or depends upon unacceptable definitions of that against which they feel entitled to defend their Self (i.e., the trans-individual Self of the Umma): but also because no religion or cult deserves the right to "defend" itself physically -- they must, like all other individuals and groups do in our modern world, entrust their self-defense to the secular authorities of the police and military of their respective nation-state.

(Note to sophomores: when I call for Muslims to give up their right to "self-defense", I am obviously not including the basic self-defense of, for example, an intruder breaking into one's home to rob or attack one's family. The Muslim idea of self-defense grandly transcends this level and accords itself the unique and bizarre privileges of a Super Nation (the Khalifa) -- an idea that sociopolitically and globally is, in our era as in eras past, increasingly fomenting fitna for the rest of the world.)

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 2:13 PM

Correction: "a Super Nation (the Khalifa)"

I think the abstract term is Khilafat, while the personage embodying it in his rule is the Khalifa.

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 2:51 PM

What a load of crap! We also do polling, http://www.reformislam.org/polls/, and our polls indicate that about 70% of Muslims are radical. We do not claim that our polls scientific or even very accurate, but 70% v. 7%? Give me a break!

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 3:08 PM

Thank God Himself. We can all sleep better now knowing there are only 91 MILLION that want to kill us. I was starting to worry there for a while.

This paltry number of Radicals must have some really good Friends in high places to receive all the Press coverage they get. Especially when so much of the press only likes dealing with Minority Issues.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm.

I think it just came to me. This must be a true protected Minority Issue. Some Cultural practice that needs to be understood and embraced.

The more I think about it the Sleeper I get. Nap Time folks, Just do not forget to set your Alarm! Afford yourself liberal use of the Snooze button as well.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 3:43 PM

Muslims Against Sharia spokesman writes above:

"What a load of crap! We also do polling, http://www.reformislam.org/polls/, and our polls indicate that about 70% of Muslims are radical."

If, however, their poll asked about "self-defense" (see my argument above), the percentage of "radical Muslims" would drop precipitously -- when the results would be interpreted in the framework of Muslims Against Sharia, that is, whose members see nothing wrong (and therefore nothing "radical") in a trans-national religion according itself the unique and bizarre privilege of "self-defense" through qital (the military and paramilitary form of jihad), when all other individuals and groups of the world entrust their self-defense to the secular authorities (police and military) of their respective nation-states.

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 4:00 PM

Muslims Against Sharia are remarkably rare birds; and I, for one, would like to give this rara avis protection, support its habitat, and undertake an intensive breeding project to pull the number of its kind up from the edge of extinction.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 28, 2008 10:37 PM

"Muslims Against Sharia"

....is an oxymoron.


By definition, no muslim can *be* a 'muslim', and oppose Sharia.

If these people are truly what they claim [anti-Jihad], why not lose the muslim label?

Lots of honourable people [ex-muslims] have already done this.

Why not call themselves "EX-Muslims Against Sharia", or some such?

Posted by: Ezekiel2012 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 29, 2008 6:43 AM

So even according to these lying sleazebags there are 70 million people out there dedicated to killing us off.

Great!

I feel much better now.

What can a tiny minority of a mere 70 million people ever accomplish!

Posted by: joeblough [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 29, 2008 5:12 PM

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