Whether or no Nasrallah is a spy is irrelvant by itself. Hezbollah is allied to Iran and Iran operatives are active in Lebanon. Lebanon's official government has little real power over security.

Posted by: Jerry M at March 1, 2008 8:38 AM

Whether or no Nasrallah is a spy is irrelvant by itself. Hezbollah is allied to Iran and Iran operatives are active in Lebanon. Lebanon's official government has little real power over security.

Posted by: Jerry M at March 1, 2008 8:38 AM

Does anyone really think that Lebanon will become anything but a purely Muslim state in the next few years, entirely purged of non-Muslims? Even the dhimmis won't want to live there.
Once the Dark Ages finally close in, there will be the usual fights over which Muslim faction will prevail, to be resolved by some dictator.
It's all just Muslim evolution and the survival of the most ruthless. Wasn't that what Mo was?

Posted by: jewdog at March 1, 2008 8:58 AM

First I'm not disputing Sheikh Hasan Nasrallah's ties to Iran, but I think it's only fair to explain that PM Fouad Siniora is much deeper in the pocket of the U.S. than Nasrallah is in the pocket of Iran. Let's be honest here with the MP, okay. Now Lebanon has U.S. warships off the coast, who asked for that, Nasrallah? I don't think so. Still the people of south Lebanon suffer daily from the effects of the war from lack of infrastructure and now the clusters illegally left by Israel all over south Lebanon in the last days of the war. Almost exclusively the victims are playing children, but you don't hear about this in the news.

Posted by: Talib at March 1, 2008 9:04 AM

I should add also that it was the illegal indiscriminate attacks that killed at least 1,000 civilians in south Lebanon during the war that brought Sheikh Nasrallah to prominence. There was no attempt to distinguish between civilian targets and military targets by the IDF. The people had no one else to turn to again for support for their families as the international community wrongfully turned their backs to what was happening. Now Nasrallah is claiming he is in power over Lebanon, Hezbollah enjoys unprecedented support, who is to blame? You tell me.

Posted by: Talib at March 1, 2008 9:36 AM

Marwan Hamada is a brave man.

Posted by: alexon at March 1, 2008 9:45 AM

I don't think Nasrallah is a saint, but he is long winded. I have read two of his speeches and what I learned is, boy, does this guy talk a lot without saying much...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 1, 2008 2:15 PM

Now that's a hallmark of an unfree society, like the one in Iran, and that which Hizballah seeks to spread:

Where stating the obvious is daring, and comes with risk to life and limb.

Posted by: MarisolJW at March 1, 2008 2:20 PM

@Talib

mat is correct. It takes two to tango and giving one side of the argument quickly loses favor because we are not stupid and remember history recent and ancient. Every time something starts up over there is the Palestinians who started it. And I don't believe the MSM is in Israels pocket. They are usually favoring the other side, but they don't miss on the general fact of a story. If they were in the Jewish pocket as is often said. Why would they be allowed into Muslim areas.

My considered conclusion is that there is far more blood on the Palestinians hands that on Israel.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at March 1, 2008 2:28 PM

Nooo..........it can't be! Iranians in Lebanon! Is nothing sacred?

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 1, 2008 3:13 PM

I apologize for going somewhat off topic, but I felt I needed to respond to “Im.mad.as.HELL!”s comment. Just today, this Saturday, 45 Gazans were martyred in IDF incursions near Jabaliya. This includes eight children. Just over this past week, really just since Wednesday there has been over 70 deaths Gaza due to IDF incursions. Gazans continue to be denied basic humanitarian needs due to the blockade. No drinking water, no food, no medical supplies. This all despite U.N. humanitarian pleads to allow AID to pass through, which are being ignored by Israel. My heart and common sense tells me what’s happening in Palestine is nothing less than a slow and systematic extermination. If you are even half human I don’t understand how you can feel the way you do? Please explain how you reason that Palestine has “more blood on their hands” as you say? In those “Muslim areas” “over there” that you talk about. I can only surmise that Muslim lives, like mine and my families “over there” in those “Muslim areas”, don’t have the same value as yours. I’m sorry for that.

Posted by: Talib at March 1, 2008 3:56 PM

I apologize for going somewhat off topic, but I felt I needed to respond to “Im.mad.as.HELL!”s comment. Just today, this Saturday, 45 Gazans were martyred in IDF incursions near Jabaliya. This includes eight children. Just over this past week, really just since Wednesday there has been over 70 deaths in Gaza due to IDF incursions. Gazans continue to be denied basic humanitarian needs due to the blockade. No drinking water, no food, no medical supplies. This all despite U.N. humanitarian pleads to allow AID to pass through, which are being ignored by Israel. My heart and common sense tells me what’s happening in Palestine is nothing less than a slow and systematic extermination. If you are even half human I don’t understand how you can feel the way you do? Please explain how you reason that Palestine has “more blood on their hands” as you say? In those “Muslim areas” “over there” that you talk about. I can only surmise that Muslim lives, like mine and my families “over there” in those “Muslim areas”, don’t have the same value as yours. I’m sorry for that.

Posted by: Talib at March 1, 2008 3:57 PM

Talib -
So why are Hamas lobbing rockets at Israel? Oh, to get the Israelis to attack Gaza and then complain about Israeli aggression. Sorry, don't buy it. Try a new tune.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 1, 2008 5:28 PM

Talib...Maybe you should tell your brothers 'over there' to stop firing rockets and sending bombers to Israel. Stop all 'Palestinian aggression and see what is the Israeli reaction...it is unfortunate that children are injured and killed. Maybe you could also ask your brothers to stop hiding behind them...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 1, 2008 9:14 PM

Talib. People tend to get what they asked for. The people of Gaza voted for a leader who wished for never ending conflict until Israel is no more.

What other outcome could you possibly expect? Get fed your supper and watch TV in between setting off Fireworks and shooting the old AK-47? Really! the nerve of some People.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at March 1, 2008 9:29 PM

@Talib

War is Hell. People (women, men and child) are often killed. You have only mentioned one side. This is going on because of the desire to have the Jews out of what Palestinians consider there country. They have demonstrated over and over again they want nothing short of that. So the blood on both sides is on their hands. Bottom line.

Wish it was not so but those are the facts.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at March 1, 2008 9:35 PM

Talib

Shouldn't you be batting for your brothers in Afghanistan, instead of siding with these Rafidite dogs in Lebanon?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 2, 2008 1:59 AM

Good for Marwan Hamadi, I hope that he is able to defend himself and his nation against the murderers acting as Iranian proxies.

Posted by: stickman at March 2, 2008 2:33 AM

Of course what he is stating is the obvious. However it is significant given that he is a Druze, it is good to see them siding against Hezbollah.

Posted by: irish_infidel at March 2, 2008 3:20 AM

The comments made above, I don't believe. Let me try to understand what you're saying. So if you live in a town, and you have someone there who lives on your street who is causing problems, but you are not, because you are just trying to take care of your family. Then one day someone comes along and decides that they're going to get rid of this person causing the problems, and they do it by destroying the street completely, which includes killing your children, your wife, and demolishing your house as well as everyone else who lives on that street. Is that fair, is that the best way to resolve a conflict and promote peace long term. What kind of state of mind do you think you would be in after loosing everything? Would it be one of peace and reconciliation? I don't think so and you know it. If you think the Israeli government is innocent, and that they want peace, you're simply blind and deaf, and in that case theirs no point in talking further, and notice I said government, because there is a growing number of Israelis taking part in protests against the governments policies including many who took part in the human chain protest.

Posted by: Talib at March 2, 2008 11:20 AM

Analogies are always slippery, they rarely express the complete essence of anything, but I will correct Talibans analysis in order to see how I feel about the issue he raises.

So if you live in a town, and you have some people who move onto your street in order to maim and murder people, they use intimidation and force against you and your family, because you cannot take care of your family you try to move away but the criminal gang forces you to stay and makes all kinds of threats if you speak out. Then the police comes along and
decides that they're going to get rid of this gang causing the problems, but the gang moves into every good persons home and fires on the police, who when they fire back kills some of the citizens
children, wives, and demolishing your house as well as others who lives on that street. Then it comes out that a terrorist supporting state hundreds of miles away was behind the murderous gang, and were using the whole situation with no regard for any decency?

I think now that I have cleaned up the analogy somewhat, I would hate those murderers and would want to work more closely with the police to stop them before they cause more death and misery, I would let everyone know that I could that the police were put in a terrible situation and I would hate those who used my people in such a filthy criminal way.

But imagine that the police were pulled out, the gang is still there, the threats and intimidation doubled, It is no wonder that most of those victims of Hellsbollox are not speaking out.

Posted by: stickman at March 2, 2008 4:05 PM

The comments made above, I don't believe. Let me try to understand what you're saying. So if you live in a town, and you have someone there who lives on your street who is causing problems, but you are not, because you are just trying to take care of your family. Then one day someone comes along and decides that they're going to get rid of this person causing the problems, and they do it by destroying the street completely, which includes killing your children, your wife, and demolishing your house as well as everyone else who lives on that street. Is that fair, is that the best way to resolve a conflict and promote peace long term. What kind of state of mind do you think you would be in after loosing everything? Would it be one of peace and reconciliation? I don't think so and you know it. If you think the Israeli government is innocent, and that they want peace, you're simply blind and deaf, and in that case theirs no point in talking further, and notice I said government, because there is a growing number of Israelis taking part in protests against the governments policies including many who took part in the human chain protest. Posted by: Talib

I don't know if we are talking past one another. Your story or analogy can only be taken so far. I will try to add more meaning to some of the characters you describe.

The neighbor causing the problem is someone you don't think is to bad even though he is causing problem. You did not mention the problems he is causing. It was not effecting you, so you thought you would just let him alone. Now the other person comes along. Who is he? He is not a neighbor. He does something completely out of all proportion to your whole neighborhood by destroying it.

It is plain that you are not considering for one moment that the destroyer had any legitimate reason for doing what he did. I would say that because of the reaction of blowing up the whole neighborhood, the bad neighbor was doing something far worse that causing a problem. Because your story is so extreme, by the two reactions, it is clear that you are not willing to accept that the Jews have any right to anything and that all the guilt is on them. I am saying just the opposite.

To finish your story and make it balanced and fair. The neighbor causing problems was going to the other persons house and neighborhood and blowing up innocent people and this mans family. Then he sneaks back to your neighborhood and acts all innocent and blends in with everyone. He, through third parties lies and says that the ones who did it are down the street from and points at your house. Because the victim does not know who to believe he just says this is war and blows up the whole neighborhood knowing he will get the guilty party because everyone is lying anyway. Oh, and here is the dirty little secret you knew the problems he was doing and even agree with them but you did not help or participate and you think you are not guilty. That is the truth of you story.

Until you are willing to admit to some guilt this discussion is closed.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at March 2, 2008 4:28 PM

@Talib

I went looking for proof that Israels were in this human chain demonstration. It looks like any that showed up were incognito (hiding) or did not participate because the stories I read did not mention and Jews participating in the chain. Were is a LINK to a story showing this I would like to read it.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at March 2, 2008 6:40 PM