Truely disgusting.

Lets hope they get it on Video and upload it to some Video site (may as well forget about the MSM showing it, they will be too busy faking -er-I-mean- editing the next Hamas release....)

Posted by: CrazyFool at March 3, 2008 12:51 AM

There is no bottom to their pit? But what's new?
Another set up like Haditha maybe?

Posted by: duh_swami at March 3, 2008 1:08 AM

"Does anyone in Gaza grasp the irony?"

Muslims don't do irony.

Posted by: cantor at March 3, 2008 2:22 AM

Hamas Military Handbook:

Women and Children First!

Posted by: champ at March 3, 2008 3:06 AM

Hudna! Hudna! Give us Hudna!

http://sheikyermami.com/2008/03/03/hudna-hudna-give-us-hudna/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 3, 2008 3:28 AM

shkelon houses a major electrical plant that powers most of the Gaza Strip.cut the power untill hamas stops its attacks

Posted by: doglover at March 3, 2008 4:24 AM

shkelon houses a major electrical plant that powers most of the Gaza Strip.cut the power untill hamas stops its attacks

Posted by: doglover at March 3, 2008 4:27 AM

Im sure the international community will come down hard of Hamas for this and even the UN will pass a resolution condemning Hamas.

/Sarc

Posted by: Elric66 at March 3, 2008 5:06 AM

Islamosupremacists meaning of "civilian" is totally different from that of the civilized world. Here again they demonstrate how adroit at using the term -for maximum effect- as just another weapon in their propaganda war. Again and again they use this prop to their advantage and the civilized world's disadvantage (as so many refuse to see the reality and or are sympathetical to the jihadi "cause").
JW/DW observers know that the islamosupremacists consider everyone "targets" in jihad. There are no "civilians". "Civilian" is a Western concept.

Posted by: TINBH at March 3, 2008 5:38 AM

I find the response of the world to this quite puzzling and without precedence.

I've talked to people who in WWII.

It seems countries were routinely carpet bombing each other's cities and one side was firing missiles into cities too.

No one tells the Azeries, Sudanese or Burmese, or Gaza Stripians not to target civilians but it seems that those telling the isrealies not to target missile pads had grandparents who partook in carpet bombing.....

If it were my city that were being indescriminately bombed by missiles I would support the creation of a no man's land for the range of the missiles to stop it happening.

Is there anyone reading this that would not want a no man's land buffer zone if it were there city?

Please reveal yourself and then swap your home with someone living in Ashkelon so we can see and admire your integrity and honour.

Posted by: exposesithlords at March 3, 2008 6:26 AM

What was the Women doing in the background, making Lunch?

Posted by: flowerknife_us at March 3, 2008 7:04 AM

Reminds me of the political cartoon showing the Israeli soldier protectively standing in front of an Israeli family, pointing his weapon at the Palestinian terrorist while the Palestinian takes cover BEHIND a Palestinian family, pointing his weapon at the Israeli.

Posted by: Cornelius at March 3, 2008 7:56 AM

In a major escalation over the past few days, Hamas has been firing long range Grad rockets at the strategic port city of Ashkelon, which is home to about 125,000 Israelis. Ashkelon houses a major electrical plant that powers most of the Gaza Strip.

Does anyone in Gaza grasp the irony?

Perhaps the idea is to knock out power in Gaza by hitting the electrical plant with rockets.

That way, the UN can condem Israel for its inhumane treatment of the palistinians.

Perhaps in fairness, the UN should condem Israel becasue Hamas terror operatives are shooting from positions inside civilian homes while the civilians were still inside.

After all, if Irael did not exist, they wouldn't do these things.

TOTAL BS!

Hamas will sooner or later kill these civilians anyway even if Israel doesn't fight back.

Rage boy no doubt will show up with the press corp, as photos are taken of all the murdered children "gunned down by the Israelis;" and are beamed to a world stunned into disbelief at another "Israeli atrocity!"

Posted by: witness at March 3, 2008 7:58 AM

Hamas’, cheerleading, Western-media never reports Hamas’ using civilians as human-shields. Of course, Hamas would deem it a traitorous act on the part of their collaborationists.
Anti-Semitic/Israel vitriol and, total, enmity is the diktat of the leftist scourge and their terrorist co-conspirators.
Journalism has become the chosen “trade” for bottomfeeders in the mainstream media.
Unfortunately, there remains a multitude of naïve or mindless folks, inhabiting this planet, incapable of discerning truth from, out-and-out, fiction.

Posted by: ballzack at March 3, 2008 8:11 AM

Do the women try to get away? Or are they promised paradise for them and their family and so they stay not worried if they get killed?

Posted by: Borg at March 3, 2008 8:17 AM

Ashkelon houses a major electrical plant that powers most of the Gaza Strip.

So let "most of the Gaza Strip" lose its power and claim that it was the result of bombardment, whether or not that was really the case. Forget irony. War is taqiyya. Muslims understand that better than anyone.

The Israeli commander was generous. He appeared to give the benefit of the doubt to the homeowners and automatically assumed these "civilians" were innocent and that their homes were being used without their permission. I'm not so sure about that.

Haven't Muslims also tried to bait both Israeli and US forces by firing from inside mosques? Why is any building from which enemy fire is being taken not a valid target? Why is a UN member country being denied the right to self-defense?

Posted by: PMK at March 3, 2008 8:18 AM

Appropriate to post here the link to Human Events.com article "Top 10 Reasons Why Islam Isn't a Religion of Peace," by Don Feder:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16786

Posted by: darcy at March 3, 2008 8:20 AM

What was the Women doing in the background, making Lunch? Posted by: flowerknife_us at March 3, 2008 7:04 AM

Human Shields. Hamas knows the IDF would hesitate before firing into such a building so Hamas deliberately hides behind the civilians.

This is, BTW, totally against the Geneva Convention and makes then a Illegal combatants subject to *no* GC protections and summarily execution in the field. Any civilian deaths caused by such an act would be the fault of Hamas.

But then Muslims don't have to abide by the Geneva Conventions in the eyes of the press and UN.

Posted by: CrazyFool at March 3, 2008 8:22 AM

Brave Mujahedin, hiding between children and women. Allah must be so proud of them.

Posted by: Crusader at March 3, 2008 8:51 AM

Darcy,
Good link. Did you read the first response?
Muslims "throughout history" have treated Jews better. Look at Hitler.

Of course "better" is a relative term. The guy who offers you a lifetime of slavery and strips you of all your dignity must be "better" than the one who just kills you.

Posted by: PMK at March 3, 2008 9:03 AM

"Ashkelon houses a major electrical plant that powers most of the Gaza Strip.

Is this what people mean, when they say someone is "stuck on stupid"? Hell, yes! Cut the power.

Israel shouldn't be expected to nurse the proverbial viper to its bosom.

Buffer zone? Great idea. Too bad the same couldn't be done in Gaza, removing civilians from the area, and eliminating the Palestinians' attempt to hold civilians hostage as human shields.

Posted by: Abscedere at March 3, 2008 9:21 AM

American soldiers in Iraq, and the soldiers of other Coalition forces, are of course now familiar with what the Israelis have long been familiar with -- the use of civilians as hostages, the deliberate placement, for example, of rocket-launchers on the roofs of schools and hospitals (as in southern Lebanon by both the PLO and by Hezbollah). For the Muslim Arabs have no compunction about this; it is only the non-Muslim enemy that might be held back, and has been held back, often at great cost. When, in order to save Arab lives, the Israelis went into Jenin on foot, instead of simply flattening the city from the air, nearly two dozen Israeli reservists -- civilian soldiers -- lost their lives. It was the kind of loss that should never have been allowed to occur. There is no need for Israeli soldiers, or the Americans, or any other non-Muslims, to risk their lives when the technological advantage, and the use of the skies, is possible.

Iraq offers a lesson. Do not attempt to stay in, or remake, or even have much to do, with any Muslim state or people. Have as little to do as possible. No aid. No attempt to refashion them. Only keep them from acquiring the ability to do you harm -- or at least to minimize that ability, and by dint of intermittent but constant attack, to keep them off-guard. Meanwhile, do whatever you can to exploit their own pre-existing fissures. And above all, educate yourself, so that you are keenly aware, and will force at least some Muslims to recognize as well, that the political, economic, social, intellectual and moral failures of Muslim states, societies, and families is the result of Islam itself. It is Islam that encourages the habit of mental submission, a submission that encourages rule by despots, who need only meet the sole criterion of being Muslims. It is inshallah-fatalism that helps explain the failure of Muslims to build modern economies -- for they have depended either on Jizyah (in its modern form, without significant non-Muslim populations to exploit through such taxes, the Jizyah comes as Western foreign aid) or on manna-from-Allah (the oil and gas reserves are seen as such). But despite revenues, since 1973 alone, of more than ten million dollars, no Arab or Muslim state -- save Turkey (with Kemalism having allowed a secular, thinking, entrepreneurial class to develop), and Malaysia (with its large, and industrious, Chinese and Hindu making up nearly half the population), or in Kazakhstan, where Islam was long ago suppressed by Soviet rule, and being a Muslim means, for most Kazakhs, nothing more than being "a cultural Muslim," and in any case, half the population consists not of Muslims but of Russians, Jews, even ethnic Koreans.

If enough Infidels can make the connection between the failures of Muslim states and societies, and Islam itself, and are not shy about expressing that understanding, that will change the debate, and put Muslims themselves on the defensive, as they should be, about Islam. And they won't be able to answer the claims of Westerners, because those claims happen, you see, to be true. And Muslims themselves, of the kind who allow themselves to begin to think, will have to recognize that truth. And that's a start, in re-arranging the force fields all over this unsettled globe.

Posted by: Hugh at March 3, 2008 9:30 AM

Hamas has two man sniper teams. One man snipes at the Israelis. The other one makes sure the women and children stay inside the room.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 3, 2008 10:05 AM

At least 140 rockets, mostly Qassams, targeted the Israeli city of Sderot the past four days, bombarding the working-class city of about 25,000 people located nearly three miles from the Gaza border. One man was killed and dozens injured last week
....................................

This small city, barely more than a large town, has suffered 140 rocket attacks in just four days--that works out to 35 attacks a day, or an incoming rocket about every 40 minutes (I'm sure they come in waves, but this is the average).

This little city is under heavy siege--nothing less. And yet I think many Westerners are still largely unaware of the situation in Sderot, and consider Israeli retaliation "excessive".

Posted by: gravenimage at March 3, 2008 10:10 AM

Hiding behind civilians is standard procedure for terrorists. This technique was perfected in Bosnia. The worst part is that the media eats it all up. If the media actually called out the terrorists they wouldn't have any reason for doing that.

Posted by: kyros at March 3, 2008 10:16 AM

Hiding behind civilians is standard procedure for terrorists. This technique was perfected in Bosnia. The worst part is that the media eats it all up. If the media actually called out the terrorists they wouldn't have any reason for doing that.

Posted by: kyros at March 3, 2008 10:18 AM

It's a really good strategy to use women and children as shields, especially children, especially little ones. The more helpless and innocent the better. Allah appreciates those kinds of sacrifices in his behalf. If anyone is interested in furthering Allah's causes it is Allah, and everyone is expendable as far as he is concerned. So that makes for an unholy union between Allah and the jihadi who would use children in these manners. The religious might call this 'demon possession'. It may be a great strategy, but it is a strategy right out of the devils handbook. I don't believe in 'the devil', but I do know an evil force when I see one. Islam
is evil, because Allah refuses to remove depravity from Iblis bag of tricks. And Iblis is in charge of the Palestinian operation, and over all jihad everywhere. And you know Iblis, there is nothing he likes better than depravity...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 3, 2008 11:18 AM

Its Time Palestinian Really be Armed

They say: Offence is the Best Form of Defence; Survival of Palestine is not viable till Palestinian posses some real deterring means to ward off the oppressive Israeli regime. Returning the Israeli aggression in equal coins is the only option. This world has to come forward to arm Palestinian with some potent arsenal that they at least come at par to certain degree to their rival Israel. This will also stop the ill aimed sporadic rockets firing by Palestinian which is jeopardising the lives of many Israelis.
Any one with an IQ above room temperature level understands that so called this Israelis un-proportional and provocative killing of Palestinian in the name of defensive actions against their retaliatory actions is just to keep the planned heat of anarchy in the Middle East…on. Israeli acts of savagery are there; because Palestinian happens to be the creed of the weakest of the weak.

These are the established fact of past that in recent ‘Lebanon war’; Israel defence forces had no Lebanese Armed Force deployed to oppose them except a weak invisible civil resistance called ‘Hezbollah’ found in Southern Lebanon’s border belt. Lebanon air space was also clear and void of any air resistance.

Availing a very free hand, Israeli Air force was able to play havoc. They destroyed most of the civilian infrastructure; Airports, all major bridges, public buildings, link roads, ports, petrol pumps and other civilian facilities; what ever it could was smashed. In thousand people died, almost all the casualties were the civilian.

But an odd resistance, on the Lebanon boarder, forced the most power full, invincible ground force in the Middle East to remain bodged down for weeks. Israel well wishers did articulate and allot more time to kill and mark it a success but it was in vain. Eventually Israeli Defence Forces returned bruised and bleeding under the safe cover of UN. A weak but resilient force of Hezbollah and their display of passion; has shown a new way to the tyrannized Arabs in particular and to all the resilient resistance movements around the world that nothing dares standing in the way of their will power and steadfastness.

The bruised Israeli after having destroyed any thing at will; kept on looking for a one single face saving ....word; ‘Victory’; at least to turn the tide of humiliation away from her so called ‘invincible forces’: but it could not.

War is fought between two opposing armed conventional forces. Killing of civilian, smashing their houses, public facilities, and slaughtering them on flimsy pretexts is a massacre, a cruelty and not a war.

This is a time for soul searching for Israel— and a very deep soul searching… lest all over the world; people may say that European were right to kill the cruel Jews then!
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Love for all, Hatred for none

Posted by: A Khokar at March 3, 2008 11:53 AM

It is not only the pali,s who use this trick, it seems to be a habit of these brave jihadi,s

February 26, 1992: Khojaly Massacre was the killing of hundreds of ethnic Azerbaijani civilians from the town of Khojaly on 25 February 1992

Scroll down a little for the whole story

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/on-this-day-feb-26.html

Posted by: Shiva at March 3, 2008 12:00 PM

lest all over the world; people may say that European were right to kill the cruel Jews then! ------------------------------- Love for all, Hatred for none

Posted by: A Khokar

You're a good successor to Naseem - not to mention an Ahmadiya to boot

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 3, 2008 12:42 PM

A Khokar -

Your "Love for all, Hatred for none" needs a little revision. You should change it to:

"Love for everyone except the Jews"...right?

Infidel Pride caught you with your pants down spewing hatred for the Jews; followed by your claim to hating no one, so I would say that that makes you as a liar.

Big surprise.

Posted by: champ at March 3, 2008 1:02 PM

I Stand for Israel!

"Misconception #1 - Jews are an imperialistic foreign nation with no connection to the Land of Israel." **FALSE**

"Many people believe that the situation in Israel is one of a foreign nation imposing its will on the local, native population."

"The Jews, having no connection to the land itself, arrived in the last 100 years, and quickly began to violently take land from the native Arabs who had been there forever."

"Clearly though, when one looks at history, this conception is proven false."

"Jews have had an intensely strong connection to the Land of Israel for an even longer time period than the Arabs themselves."

"When discussing the Land of Israel, Arabs often begin the history in the year 638. This is the year that Omar, a follower of Muhammad, conquered Jerusalem. Muhammad himself never came to Israel, dying in 632, but his followers soon arrived and took over the land. The Palestinian side describes this time in history as the beginning of the importance of this land. In truth it is - to the Muslim world. But to the wider world around them - specifically the Jewish as well as Christian world, the importance of the land of Israel dates back much further. This view ignores the over 1800 years of history before the arrival of Muslims, which contained a continual Jewish presence."

"Jews first came to the land of Israel as a nation, in the year 1272 BCE. This dates back 1800-1900 years before Islam even began! For the next 13 centuries, Jewish Kings and prophets changed the world spiritually and culturally. Finally, the Jews were exiled by the Romans (their second exile) from being an autonomous ruling kingdom in Israel in the year 70 CE. This means that 600 years before Islam was even created - Jews were already yearning to come back to their land! Thus, it is impossible to begin looking in the year 638 CE to understand what's happening in the Middle East, since there is a rich Jewish history much before."

Read it all:
http://www.israelactivism.com/article.php?articleid=275&table=factsheets

Posted by: champ at March 3, 2008 1:11 PM

why are posters like

A Khokar

so terribly verbose?

Does she really think that someone with "an IQ above room temperature level" [ie 293 or greater] [in kelvin which is the unit for temperature unless otherwise declared] would not be able to summarise the whole post as

Islam means peace.
In the name of allahhhh the most compasionate and merciful, I kill you all, especially jews.

Anyhow I had to point that out as there are not many people with an IQ of 293 or above.

So all you readers with IQ below room temperature please note.

Posted by: exposesithlords at March 3, 2008 2:40 PM

Standard operation procedure.
http://static.flickr.com/60/203059838_b43a2d35af_o.gif

Posted by: interestinconundrum at March 3, 2008 3:03 PM

Love for all, Hatred for none

Posted by: A Khokar

Why are Arabs not satisfied with 99.9% of all the land in the middle-east?

Posted by: interestinconundrum at March 3, 2008 3:08 PM

A. Khokar - I've read the Qur'an so take your fables elsewhere. I know, as stated in the Qur'an, it's okay to lie and deceive the infidels. But now we infidels know and you know we know, so just give it a rest.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 3, 2008 3:18 PM

"as ye sow, so shall ye reap," applies to Moslem Arabs as it does to everyone else. Collateral (civilian) casualties are part of total war. There were many such casualties in World War II--in London and other British cities--and in the Nazi cities, with the ultimate civilian casualties in Japan--Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The Moslems must be made aware that when you start piecemeal killing of people on our (non-Moslem) side, we will respond with Total War--hit them so hard that they lose the lust for murder and mayhem--at least for a few centuries again.

Shedding tears over enemy dead--whether these are armed murderers or their associated families acting as shields--must go out of fashion, if we are to come out of this thing as winners. And, although this appears to have been forgotten, you fight wars to win, not to lose them.

The above is assuming that you are not more concerned with the wellbeing of the enemy than that of your own population.

Israel is more concerned with world opinion--yes, there could be sanctions from the Moslem-courting EU and the Saudi-indebted U.S. ruling elite--than with preserving the lives of its women and children.

The U.S. appears to be fighting wars for the benefit of the enemy populations--yes, Iraq was the enemy and its government is not "our friend"--because it is Islamic.

As the trite old saying goes, "You can't make an omlette without breaking eggs," which applies to armed conflict as "You can't fight a war without killing people." That is what warfare is all about: killing people, destroying their infrastructure* and economy*--and not putting them back on their feet again, unless you can be sure that they'll be on your side from then on in. Any Islamic entity does not fall under that latter designation. It cannot, because of koran, etc. that governs the Islamics thinking and behavior.
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*Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman got that right. If you worry too much about how the enemy population feels, if they will like you, etc., you have lost already.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at March 3, 2008 3:48 PM

CrazyFool (who is obviously neither) said

This is, BTW, totally against the Geneva Convention and makes then a Illegal combatants subject to *no* GC protections and summarily execution in the field.

How many ways do the jihadis violate the Geneva Convention?

1) Torturing prisoners of war;
2) Murdering prisoners of war;
3) Denying medical aid to prisoners of war;
4) Raping female prisoners (I'm not talking Mohammad, I'm talking the second Gulf War);
5) Not wearing uniforms to identify themselves as comabants;
6) Forcing prisoners to make propaganda tapes;
7) Not being a legally sanctioned army of a nation;
8) Using civilians as "human shields";
9) Using medical ambulances to move weapons on the battlefield;
10) Treating the bodies of victims without dignity nor respect (think Dancing With Body Parts, think Dragging Bodies Behind Cars Through the Streets);
11) Serving food that contains trace-amounts of non-Kosher material to Jewish prisoners;
12) Touching a Bible with ungloved hands during cell-searches of prisoners;

*Note: I made up numbers 11 and 12. That's a joke. That's the sort of "war crimes" they accuse the U.S. of committing, even when proven not true, and even as they are sawing the heads off kufir prisoners.

They are not protected by the Geneva Convention. *WAY NOT* protected.

Posted by: special_guest at March 3, 2008 7:38 PM

A. Khokar finds the fight between Israel and those who would destroy it, including but not limited to those local Arabs carefully called "Palestinians," to be asymmetrical warfare.

I agree. There are only six million Israelis. There are 300 million Arabs and about 1.2 million Muslims. Israel has no natural resources. Since 1973 alone, the Arabs and other Muslims have received more than ten trillion dollars from an accident of geology, with many trillions more on their way. Israel spends on defense a tiny percentage of what the Arab states, with their limitless funds, buy. Thank god, therefore, that because of Israeli talent, applied partly to its military, it is a world leader in many different kinds of military equipment, including those unmanned drones that have been so effective in Gaza. And may Israel keep itself, and be helped by others in the Western world (coming to their senses about the role of Israel in channeling, and for now holding off, Arab aggression that, were Israel to yield, would in a spirit of triumphalism be practically unstoppable, with Western Europe the next clear target) to always be much further advanced, militarily, than those it has no desire to destroy, while they desire very much to destroy it.

Oh, it's an unfair contest all right. But not the way that "A. Khokar" seems to think.

Posted by: Hugh at March 3, 2008 10:40 PM

In a major escalation over the past few days, Hamas has been firing long range Grad rockets at the strategic port city of Ashkelon [which] houses a major electrical plant that powers most of the Gaza Strip.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 "For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: "If anyone will not work, neither let him eat."

"He who does not work, neither shall he eat", Vladimir Lenin, State and Revolution (1917)

Why do they get this electricity anyway? Turn it off. Keep it off. Use it for something useful like powering greenhouses. (Besides, electricity powers cable television, CD and DVD players, it's bidah. Bad.)

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at March 3, 2008 11:13 PM

Ashkelon, Gaza, Israel

it's like reading the Book of Judges, I and II Kings and Chronicles all over again

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at March 4, 2008 6:46 PM