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March 5, 2008

UK: Jihadist preacher caught on film explaining how to "hoodwink" government over benefits

This comes from the entitlement mentality inculcated by Qur'an 9:29 and the legal superstructure of the jizya payments: if the non-Muslims rightly owe Muslims a tax, then the Muslims are entitled to take what they can get from them when it is not collected. "Radical Muslim preacher caught on film giving advice on how to 'hoodwink' the Government over benefits," from the Daily Mail (thanks to Twostellas):

A radical Muslim preacher has been filmed talking about fraudulently claiming benefits and giving advice on how to cheat the Government.

Self-proclaimed extremist Abu Waleed was speaking at the London School of Shariah event in preparation for Ramadan, during which he also made jokes about Muslims taking backpacks on to the Underground.

The British-born radical retold fables from the koran before encouraging his audience to hoodwink the Government.

After a story about a wealthy man, he said: "There was one man, he had a lot of money - just like us, we have a lot of money today from the income support and the incapacity benefit.

"Obviously when you have the incapacity benefit, you want to make sure you walk with a limp when you leave the house just in case there's someone taking pictures.

"Obviously you don't need to tell them that, the Department of Work and Pensions."

Waleed has links through the London School of Shariah, in Bethnal Green, which hosts guest speakers such as jailed fanatic Abu Hamza and radical British Islamist Anjem Choudary.

The three all have links to exiled cleric Omar Bakri....

Posted by Robert at March 5, 2008 9:33 AM
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This is everywhere in Western Europe. Fiddling of the system of generous benefits, and not limited to Muslims alone. But Muslims alone can justify it fully, and spread the word to other Muslims, for all they are doing is a little proleptic collection of what, by rights, belongs to them. Since the Infidels ought to be paying them Jizyah, but unfortunately have not yet been subdued, then Muslims have a right to get that Jizyah-payment any way they can, including breaking the ridiculous laws of the ridiculous Infidels.

And the same is true of the Muslim attitude to Western women, Infidel women, "their women." There have been all sorts of guides for Muslims in the West, especially those studying abroad. They are told to go ahead and take them, use them, for the Westerneers don't care to protect "their women." Should you, as a student studying in the West, need the temporary relief of a temporary wife, by all means marry -- the marriage doesn't mean a thing -- one of those Western women. They're all sluts, anyway. Unless of course they become good, submissive, Muslim women, in which case they can be kept, and even brought back to Saudi Arabia, or Egypt, or somehwere. As a young Moroccan explained -- to a female Muslim reporter -- the other day on the BBC, "I want to keep our own women pure. We use Western women for sex." How nice.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 9:53 AM

One of these days the British are going to explode in disgust.

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 10:08 AM

If I had it my way, they'd all be walking with a limp.

On their way back to Crapistan.

Posted by: Haid Dasalami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 10:21 AM

as a disabled person reading that some jihadist preacher is is telling people who are not disabled out to get disability benefits. Makes my blood boil this jerk hould be hung by his testicles over a slow fire in my opinion

Posted by: doglover [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 10:28 AM

Since this is a problem in any society that provides benefits (primarily Western societies that actually care about their citizen's health and well being), I'm not surprised.

My question. . . is the British Government actually taking action against this fraudster, or are they giving him a pass out of fear of rioting by the muslim masses?

When someone confesses to fraud or at least conspiracy to commit fraud they should be prosecuted.

Posted by: walterc [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:09 AM

"the London School of Shariah" -- You've got to be kidding me! The School of Shariah?

"if the non-Muslims rightly owe Muslims a tax, then the Muslims are entitled to take what they can get from them when it is not collected." -- about 15 years ago I got cheated out of the deposit I paid on my apartment by my radical Muslim landlord. I always felt that he was extracting the jizya from me.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:19 AM

This sure makes me appreciate Mexican Immigration.

Posted by: Ruebacca [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:25 AM

Oops - Cat out of Bag.

And immigration reform is NOT an issue in upcoming Presidential race?

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:29 AM

"the London school of Shariah..."


Why stop there?

And why not the London Shariah Times?

The London Review of Shariah?

The Daily Shariah?

The British Academy of Shariah (headed by that scholar of "European Islam" Mr. Tariq Ramadan, who is also a Corresponding Member of the French Academy of Shariah, the German Academy of Shariah, and the Russian Academy of Shariah, now installed on Nevsky Prospekt, in good old St. Petersburg).

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:30 AM

Hugh excellently describes the mindset of the muslims raping benefits from British taxpayers.

But there is another angle to this, an angle reflected in nations throughout the EU: The encouragement of mass-imiigration and the promotion of Islam as the Religion of Peace (TM) by the marxist governments.

This is another tactic that achieves many objectives such as: Colonisation, confusion, unrest amongst the indiginous population, cheap labour markets, increased taxation, spread of the welfare state all of which will lead to chaos and civil war.

You can then make a good guess as to what will happen next.

But in response to the article, I now look forward to seeing hundreds of outraged muslims marching with Police protection through London demanding that these muslim fraudsters who are insulting and misrepresenting Islam be beheaded, burned, tortured and their countries bombed just as they did over the motoons*.

*Lion reserves the right not to hold his breath regarding this matter.

Posted by: Britannia's Lion [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:31 AM

If anyone believes that all Muslim immigrants into Western nations do not have these conversations behind closed doors, you are leading extremely naive lives.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:41 AM

A reader's comment at the Daily Mail--->>>

Abu Waleed is just telling the truth about how easy it is for his people to hoodwink the benefit system; a very dear Muslim friend of mine once said if he could be made redundant - he would never have to work again - he said that nearly every DHSS office has an Urdu speaking staff member and they will get him benefits that the white English are never offered. I could not believe that until after he was made redundant and the amount of money he was getting in benefits equalled his normal wages, and yes he did get invalidity or incapacity benefit and yes he never did work again - he is now officially retired.

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 12:47 PM

If anyone believes that all Muslim immigrants into Western nations do not have these conversations behind closed doors, you are leading extremely naive lives.

Posted by: Foehammer

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Even the Loonery Left have to believe that by now.. they're probably loath to admit it for fear of the consequences so everyone is going along with the Big Lie. I.E. "religion" of peace®

Posted by: Allah Schmallah [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 1:15 PM

Just another example of sell-out British politicians not really caring. Guess they’ve already figured that the please-kick-my-ass-cause-I’m-sensitive&tolerant British people can stand anything but being called “racists”, and so they’ll just keep voting sell-outs back in.

Posted by: FM [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 1:22 PM

One of these days the British are going to explode in disgust.

Posted by: Sounder

Let's hope it's before their country is lost to them.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 1:27 PM

Denmark has a 5% muslim population, they consume 40% of all welfare benefits.

Posted by: Holger Dansker [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 1:36 PM

Posted by: PMK

Let's hope it's before their country is lost to them.


http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/profile-jihadi-on-home-front.html

Posted by: Shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 1:49 PM

"primarily Western societies that actually care about their citizen's health and well being"

I'm too cynical and angry to believe any of that now. It may have been the original altruistic ideal, but politicians see it now as a way to buy votes. If, for example, the US government politicians really really cared about people's condition there would be no means testing for benefits. I have a female relative who qualifies for nothing because she had income of just a few hundred dollars above the minimum. Her state sponsored health insurance premium is half again as much as her rent. Consequently she has no health insurance. I suppose she could buy health insurance and eat cardboard, after all it is nearly pure fiber. She will however turn 65 in six months.

This woman has paid taxes for forty-five plus years, and when she needs help, the bureaucrat at the window says TS. If the abuses of the system enhance the downfall of the social programs, so be it.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 2:11 PM

Its your country, your belief system: defend it.

I know I will.

Posted by: ericthekuffar [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 2:17 PM

Shiva

Thought this quote might be of interest to you:

“One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere of this planet to burst into the northern one. But not as friends. Because they will burst in to conquer, and they will conquer by populating it with their children. Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women.”
- Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1974 Speech before the United Nations

They even tell us what they are going to do to us and still the useful idiots refuse to listen.

Posted by: Britannia's Lion [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 2:18 PM

"the London School of Shariah" -- You've got to be kidding me! The School of Shariah?
......................................

Like Person of the Book and Hugh, I was most taken aback by the exisistence of a "London School of Shariah".

Well, I looked them up. Their urging Muslim immigrants to defraud the Western welfare system is far from their most worrying aspect.

Last month they held a conference on "Britain under Islam", where they noted the Archbishop of Canterbury's assertion that Britain's adopting some form of shari'ah is inevitable--but then criticized the idea that shari'ah could be anything less than total.

They condone the idea of cutting off the hands of thieves, but only if it is done in the proper Islamic spirit.

They go on to laud the idea of the Khalifate, its taking over Britain, and then spreading through violent conquest throughout the world.

Damn troubling. Here is a link:

http://www.sawtulislam.com/?p=202

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 6, 2008 1:56 AM

Gravenimage;

I checked out the link in your post; the comments there from members of the "Religion of Peace" were quite clarifying in a stupendously confusing way... I couldn't quite believe what I was reading at first. The arguments for total Sharia in the UK fall back on a "hey, it's not our choice, it's Allah's, and who can argue against that?" sort of angle. Then it occurred to me that this mindset has all of the trappings of a cult:

*Charismatic Leader (ok, even though he's dead. But his actions are still seen as lofty examples to be emulated)
*Separation of members from the outside world - Dividing people into "believers" and "everyone else", which naturally dehumanizes the latter
*Virulent intolerance of dissent
*An absolute and unquestioning obedience to authority....

Actually, the following paper by one Dr. Robert J. Lifton is a good overview. Almost all of these characteristics can quite readily be seen in Islam.

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cultinfo.html

It's almost sad, really, that the posters I read simply weren't capable of understanding how anyone could possibly disagree with them. It's as if they were physically incapable of comprehending that a point of view other than their own could have any validity whatsoever, and they seem stunned and confused that anyone would actually *not* want Sharia imposed upon them.

Ann Coulter once said we should "invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity".

I beg to differ, Ann. They don't need conversion. They need deprogramming.

Posted by: hiram13pm [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 6, 2008 2:07 PM
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