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March 14, 2008

Israeli gov't spokesman: "When another group takes responsibility for a rocket launch, they are subcontracting out for Hamas ... No one could be firing rockets from Gaza without the support of Hamas"

Indeed. Shortest "Calm" Ever Update. "Gaza rockets barrage southern Israel," by Amy Teibel for the Associated Press:

JERUSALEM - Islamic Jihad militants in Gaza fired more than a dozen rockets at southern Israel early Thursday after Israeli undercover forces killed one of its West Bank leaders, shattering a recent lull in Gaza fighting.
The new violence highlighted the fragility of efforts to move Israel and Gaza's Islamic Hamas rulers toward an informal truce.
The Islamic Jihad commander Mohammed Shehadeh was buried Thursday in the West Bank town of Bethlehem along with three other gunmen killed in the raid late Wednesday. The bodies of Shehadeh and another militant were wrapped in Hezbollah flags, and dozens of mourners chanted support for the Lebanese guerrilla group — a sign of the Iranian-backed militia's growing influence on Palestinian militants.
A dozen rockets and three mortars were fired at Israel late Wednesday and early Thursday, Israeli security officials said. Two rockets struck a warehouse and soccer stadium in the rocket-weary Israeli town of Sderot, but no one was injured. Israeli aircraft struck a loaded rocket launcher early Thursday, but no Palestinian injuries were reported.
The rocket barrage from Gaza seemed inevitable after Israeli undercover forces opened fire on the car carrying Shehadeh. The Israeli military said the Islamic Jihad commander planned suicide bombings that killed dozens of Israelis.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Israel would keep pursuing militants involved in attacks in Israelis.
"Yesterday in Bethlehem we demonstrated once again that the state of Israel will continue to pursue and strike all murderers with Jewish blood on their hands," Barak said.
Israel held Hamas responsible for the rocket attacks because it controls the Gaza Strip.
"When another group takes responsibility for a rocket launch, they are subcontracting out for Hamas," government spokesman Mark Regev said. "No one could be firing rockets from Gaza without the support of Hamas."
Regev had no comment on an Army Radio report that Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman was due in Israel next week to try to advance truce efforts. Israel has publicly denied that any informal cease-fire was taking shape, though officials have privately acknowledged that Egyptian-brokered attempts were under way.
In Gaza, about 3,000 Palestinians marched to protest the Israeli raid in Bethlehem, and Hamas blamed Israel for the spike in violence. Spokesman Abu Obeid threatened retaliation against "all of the Zionist colonies and towns around Gaza."
A statement from the office of moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Israel's partner in troubled peace negotiations, condemned Israel's "ugly crime" in Bethlehem.
"The Palestinian Authority holds the government of Israel responsible for all the consequences resulting from these brutal crimes against our people," the statement said.

So, Abbas goes on record as saying that going after Shehadzeh, the man believed to be the mastermind of last week's yeshiva attacks along with other prior attacks, is a "brutal crime" against "their people." Not terribly surprising, considering that Fatah-controlled media did call the gunman a "martyr." In fact, it's very telling.

Posted by Marisol at March 14, 2008 12:09 AM
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Too bad Hamas can't sub out electricity or running water or adequate medical care.

No, of course not. For that they desperately need the Israelis.

All they can sub out is destruction, death and chaos through divine Islamic logic.

By the way, what's the nutritional value of a page from the Qur'an?

Anyone?

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 12:34 AM

So what; if the Jihadist who masterminded the Yeshiva mass murder of 8 young students, was located by the Israeli army. So what; if it's the army's duty to protect its citizens, and they identified a known target who was resolutely poised to strike again. So what; if the Jihadists use human shields by design, in hopes of showing dead children to the local press to prove the Israelis are war criminals. So what; if Hamas promises Israel's destruction and approves the daily launching of rockets into Israeli towns...so what? It's still all the fault of the Jooos!! Muslims are pure and simply the victims of Zionist plots, don'tcha see?

Abbas (translated into plain English).

Posted by: Xero G [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 2:12 AM

Two links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxXItKnyTEE&eurl=http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-some-reasons-to-love-palestinians.html

Philistine Child

http://sheikyermami.com/2006/12/20/philistine-child/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 4:27 AM

But Abbas is the "moderate" terrorist, we must embrace him and strive for peace no matter the cost.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 7:29 AM

By the way, what's the nutritional value of a page from the Qur'an?

Anyone?

Posted by: awake

The koran has no nutritional value but as a laxitive it works well for those with anal retention.

Posted by: havekoranwilltravel [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 7:38 AM

"Israel held Hamas responsible for the rocket attacks because it controls the Gaza Strip."

From the article above:

Ironic that Barak, Israel, would say this, which is exactly right, and they should hold Hamas responsible.....but the same logic is not applied anywhere else. Israel doesn't hold Lebanon responsible for their tolerance of a terrorst state within their "sovereign" country. Israel doesn't hold Tehran responsible for Hizballah murdering Israelis, and they never hold Damascus responsible for hosting endless terrorist attacks against Israeli citizens, military etc. Damascus openly gives refuge to Khalid Mashaal, and the rest of the Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah al Islam leaders.

Apply the same logic, hold these countries responsible.....or continue playing Russian Roulette with Israeli lives.

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 8:37 AM

Morning, People. Let me tell you about an incident that happened to me yesterday while driving.

I've posted on here a few times that my small SUV vehicle sports a "DEFEAT JIHAD/JIHADWATCH.ORG" sticker that I ordered from this site about 5 months ago.

Anyway, so I'm waiting to make a right turn yesterday, and see that the car travelling perpendicular is far down the street, so I make the right turn. Suddenly I become aware that this car is almost touching my bumper, so I look in the rear-view. There I see a man moving and shaking his head around in some wierd mentally-deranged fashion. I became alarmed. Plus, he's almost running into me, so I quickly pull off to the left side of the road. I look into the car passing me - it's a black-haired man with an olive complexion and I see he's Middle Eastern. He shoots the bird at me and snarls with his face all contorted, "f you." Really an ugly sight.

O-KAY, so I'm not a wuss and I give that bas**** the finger right back, and stay put. I want him to see that I'm not moving, I'm not intimidated by his terrorism. Because that's what he did with both his car on my bumper, and with his finger.

So, the incident is over and I'm thinking "What the...?" OH...it's my "DEFEAT JIHAD" sticker! LOL! Can't wait to tell my husband, who also had an incident once while driving my vehicle (a few weeks ago. I posted about it on JW).

Thanks for reading, everyone. And guess what? The sticker stays.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 8:45 AM

Morning Darcy, how are you this fine day?


"There I see a man moving and shaking his head around in some wierd mentally-deranged fashion."


That was a dead give away. :-)

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 8:52 AM

palestinians, like rat poison, come under different brand names. In the end, all are equally deadly.

Darcy, I take my hat off to you. You have plenty of guts. Fortunately, that turd didn't escalate things further. No doubt seeing a female driver must have made him just as angry as your bumper sticker. This is why immigration policy needs to be changed-more incidents of this type are inevitable if we keep leaving the damn doors wide open.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 8:53 AM

Darcy, good sticker, I like the "I am a Fan of Disproportionate Force" sticker myself

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 8:57 AM

IFL,

Its not just immigration. He could have been born here.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 8:57 AM

Islamforlosers you're right...intimidation is just increasing....imagine what those Europeans have to go through with their floodgates wide open.

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:00 AM

IFL,

Its not just immigration. He could have been born here.

Posted by: Elric66

Elric yep, but somewhere in their family tree they got in from the Mohammadan lands.

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:01 AM

Thanks for your comments, people.

I saw yet another photo on the 'net this morning of a bunch of Mohammedan males in Pakistan torching the Danish flag.

Well, I've got some Jarlsberg cheese for breakfast this morning, and I feel like ordering an Islamic flag from the 'net and going out in the street and burning it.

I don't think any Westerner has done that. Boy would that grab publicity!

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:06 AM

Elric-

That's why I favor exile. That way, any jihadist regardless of place of birth gets the same treatment. We can't deport "citizen" jihadists (deportation rarely works anyway) but we sure as hell can remove them from our midst (and in a better manner than jailing them) when they do act up. All that's needed is the will. Let's pick an island-there are plenty of them-and do it.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:06 AM

Thanks for reading, everyone. And guess what? The sticker stays.

Good for you.

I had asked the site that sells those about getting a plain jihadwatch.org bumper sticker with no reply.

These stickers have the same effect, but take a different slant.

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.66225907

http://www.cafepress.com/vienna1683.130468467

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.67500309

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.67767602


Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:15 AM

IFL,

Good luck with that. Banning immigration is a good start which will probaly include Europe since they are becoming more Islamic.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:17 AM

Elric-

I know it's a pipe dream. But it may gather momentum if something worse than 9/11 happens. The majority of people have not been appalled enough yet to do ANYTHING of substance about the jihadists among us.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:22 AM

Hey adobe, thanks for the sticker links.

I ordered this one from cafepress:

"Jesus is God. Allah is Not."

Which is on my bulletin board. Whoa - can you imagine if yesterday's snarling Mohammedan had seen THAT one?!

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:28 AM

IFL,

You know the story of the frog in the pot, right? As long as it's slow drips, we will do nothing and it will be too late. Only a 9-11 but worse will wake up the American people. Just the choices we have for president doesnt give me much hope.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:28 AM

>>Only a 9-11 but worse will wake up the American people. --Elric

Totally agree.

Our stopping the islamic barbarians' in their various terror plots is only worsening things for us. Unfortunately, due to the current PC stupidity of the West, something big needs to happen.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:32 AM

darcy,

Yours are the first accounts of Islamic Road Rage that I've read, but I'm sure there will be more.

Allow me to express for every sane individual who posts here how grateful and pleased we are that the Islamozombies didn't act out on their murderous impulses any more than they did!

Your flag burning idea prompted a search: "where to buy a Hamas flag?" I wound up here. Interesting reading.

When and if you find a Hamas or Hezbollah flag to burn, make sure you throw in a burqa as well, but you mighht have to settle for posting the video on YouTube. It's not likely that CNN would send a camera crew, and you can forget about Al-Jazeera.

Posted by: Lex [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:35 AM

Darcy,

Maybe the release of Fitna will do it. But then, the West will blame Geert for Muslims rioting and killing over a movie, never contemplating that the movie is proving Geert right about his statements on Islam.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:35 AM

I wonder if Juan McVain will listen or not?


McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

Washington Dispatch: Televangelist Rod Parsley, a key McCain ally in Ohio, has called for eradicating the "false religion." Will the GOP presidential candidate renounce him?

http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html#comments_top

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:56 AM

Hi Lex,

Thanks for your kind words. Well, it was only one "islamozombie." Can you imagine what the Crazed One told his Mohammedan friends later - "filthy kuffar! She should be beheaded, inshallah!"

I clicked on your link and the comments by the Mohammedans chilled me. One called his location "Londonistan." Everyone should click on Lex's link and read those comments. "Interesting reading" indeed. Horrific reading. How have we let things come to this. A Barbarian is referring to London as Londonistan.

Someone NEEDS to make a youtube burning an islamic flag and throw in the Q, too. Perhaps it will be one of us. If I did that, however, it would be entirely my own project, having nothing to do with JW, and never mentioning it.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 9:58 AM

Nothing has amazed me more than Israel's lack of adequate verbal self defense. It's called CLOSING THE GAP between reality and Palestinian talk. This is a small but right step in that direction. Hamas is firing rockets if they come from Gaza. Simple. Abbas's own Fatah newspaper calls the Yeshivah murderer a 'shahid', Abbas tell Israel 'what a horrible man'. You don't think he'd lie to ISRAEL would he???? Truth be Zion's shield.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 10:07 AM

'Darcy's excellent adventure'...'The return of the middle finger salute, the Movie'.
And I thought it was gone. A useful tool, I once wore one out at a Obama rally.
Enraged muslims, for revenge, or by infidels as a comedic production, could make their own Youtube video of a crazed infidel woman burning an Islamic flag while shouting 'Spencer' made me do it'.
Maybe Robert would object to this so it could be someone else. It might be an interesting experiment.
Great comedy if done right. There are lots of variations in that theme calling for a series of videos. I would do this myself, just for fun and adventure, but I don't have a camera...Maybe I could borrow one for a day...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 11:01 AM

OT sort of...
The Bible is "hate speech" in Canada
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34671

Rice says Abbas doesn't mean what he says.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1205261316915&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 11:06 AM

Condhimmi makes Albright look good. That takes some doing.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 11:09 AM

Hamas ... No one could be firing rockets from Gaza without the support of Hamas"

No matter what they call themselves, they are in the same club, and that's globally, not just in Gaza.
If it is real to say that when 'muslims are attacked anywhere, all muslims are attacked everywhere'. It is just as real to say that when muslims attack anywhere, it is muslims everywhere who are doing it.
But they don't want to hear that part of the story, nor do their apologists. The Israeli official is correct, it matters little what the rocketeers call themselves, Hamas is responsible and so is that very rich PA guy, Abu Mazen the terrorist.
If 'Palestinians' really want Israel to stop it's attacks, they must stop attacking. But of course they won't, because they don't, even though they talk peace, that is not their real agenda.
They have made their agenda clear, and it does not include peace...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 11:37 AM

FACT

On the eve of Israel's disengagement from the Gaza Strip in August 2005, Middle East envoy James Wolfensohn brokered a deal to purchase greenhouses built by Jewish settlers in the hope of providing employment and export income to the Palestinian people and boost the fledgling economy. Wolfensohn and a number of other donors, including several American Jews, bought the greenhouses, which averaged more than $75 million in total crop output annually, and gave them to the Palestinian Authority.[155]

Wolfensohn and a number of other donors, including several American Jews, bought the greenhouses, which averaged more than $75 million in total crop output annually, and gave them to the Palestinian Authority.[155]

Almost immediately after Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, many greenhouses were ransacked and looted. In September 2005, looters in Neve Dekalim, the largest Jewish settlement in Gaza, walked away with irrigation hoses, water pumps, and plastic sheeting, often while Palestinian policemen watched.[156]

Despite pleas from the Palestinian Prime Minister to leave the structures intact, the security situation around the greenhouses worsened. In 2006, roving gunmen destroyed greenhouses in the former settlement of Morag, and dozens of armed militiamen ransacked more than 50 acres of greenhouse space in the former settlement of Gush Katif.157 Witnesses said the militants used bulldozers to demolish the buildings' frames, and then destroyed or stole whatever equipment they could find inside, including irrigation computers.[158]

The Palestinian Company for Economic Development, the organization in charge of running the greenhouses, complained that hundreds of greenhouses and other agricultural installations were destroyed. In an appeal to the Palestinian Authority leadership, the company said, "These greenhouses and other installations and projects provide a source of income for over 4,500 families. We are very disturbed by the recurring attacks and thefts. Such actions jeopardize the largest agricultural project carried by the Palestinian Authority after the Israeli withdrawal."[159]

In addition to rendering the greenhouses useless for their intended purpose of building up the PA economy, Hamas has also established terrorist training centers on some of the lands of the evacuated settlements. Abu Abdullah, a senior member of Hamas' military wing, said the two former settlements of Eli Sinai and Dagit are now advanced training zones.[160]

Nearly 70% of the greenhouses have been completely destroyed, most recently by Palestinians who dismantled some of the remaining greenhouses to sell to Egyptians after the Gaza-Egypt border was breached in January 2008.[161] The treatment of the greenhouses is an example of how, contrary to Palestinian propaganda blaming Israel, the economic troubles in the Gaza Strip are largely self-inflicted.

http://www.think-israel.org/gushkatif.refugees.html

Posted by: Shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 12:10 PM

This was just a little squib in yesterday's paper, but you can see how incredibly biased it is:

Palestinian rocket causes no damage

"JERUSALEM--A Palestinian rocket fell near the Israeli city of Ashkelon on Tuesday, briefly threatening a fragile period of calm.

Israeli defence officials said the would not retaliate for the attack, since Hamas militants had not launched the rocket. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the subject.

Egypt said it was optimistic about mediating a truce between Israel and the Hamas rules of the Gaza Strip.

The situation remained tense, however, with the lead negotiator for the West-Bank based Palestinian government accusing Israel of endangering the peace process with new plans for settlement expansion.

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a tiny militant group, claimed responsibility for Tuesday's rocket, which Israel said landed in an open area south of Ashkelon, causing no injuries."

The rocket "fell", in the passive tense, like rain or snow--it wasn't launched at all, it seems. "The situation remains tense" because Israelis are "endangering the peace process" with their non-violent plans.

Palestinians launching rockets at Israeli cities could not posibly endanger the peace process--after all, Hamas was not involved--it was just a "tiny" militant group-- and no one was hurt. That this last was through the ineptitude of the perpetrator and the poor quality of the weapon--rather than benign intent--should, of course, not be a factor.

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 12:30 PM

'Darcy's excellent adventure'...'The return of the middle finger salute, the Movie'.
And I thought it was gone. A useful tool, I once wore one out at a Obama rally.
Enraged muslims, for revenge, or by infidels as a comedic production, could make their own Youtube video of a crazed infidel woman burning an Islamic flag while shouting 'Spencer' made me do it'.
Maybe Robert would object to this so it could be someone else. It might be an interesting experiment.
Great comedy if done right. There are lots of variations in that theme calling for a series of videos. I would do this myself, just for fun and adventure, but I don't have a camera...Maybe I could borrow one for a day...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 14, 2008 11:01 AM

LOL, duh swami! Hey - he shot me the bird first!

So, I ventured out again in the "JW Vehicle," but no news of enraged Mohammedans to report.

I did see, however, another sticker! This was a green one, and said "anti-Jihad!" Great, eh?! The vehicle was a big pick-up truck. Besides mine, that's the only sticker referencing "Jihad" I've seen, so far.

You must order, people, and make your vehicles as well, "JW Vehicles!"

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2008 12:48 PM

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