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March 15, 2008

Fitzgerald: Another case for the annals of idiocy

"Political science professor Michael Ross argues in a new paper that oil booms put more men than women into the workforce and decrease women's political representation.

"As a result, oil-producing states are left with atypically strong patriarchal norms, laws, and political institutions," writes Ross, a professor at the University of California Los Angeles.

Ross argues that strong oil economies put women at a disadvantage because the sectors most in need of employees, especially construction, favor men, while textile and other manufacturing industries that traditionally preferred female employees become less vital in the import-rich nations. Ross's paper, "Oil, Islam, and Women," was published in February by the American Political Science Review. -- from this news article

In the annals of idiocy, has there ever been anything quite like the various attempts, each more comical than the next, to "find the real killer" -- that is, the "root cause" of Muslim terrorism -- by attributing such terrorism to everything under the sun except to the ideology of Islam? And as part of those annals, has there ever been anything as idiotic as the misattribution, to something other than the ideology of Islam, of Muslim mistreatment of women, or Muslim mistreatment of non-Muslims?

Here we have a Professor Ross, who has discovered, so he thinks, that it is "oil" and not Islam that explains the mistreatment of women. He fails, in the first place, to notice the most obvious thing of all: the very high proportion of oil states that are also peopled by Muslims (10 of the 11 members of OPEC are Muslim or, in the case of Nigeria Muslim-dominated, states).

But here are two other questions that Professor Ross, or "Professor" Ross, failed to consider, and they were the most obvious ones.

The first question he ought to have asked is: Are there any oil states where women are NOT mistreated? That is, are there any oil-producing countries, or oil-producing countries within countries, where women are treated well? And if so, do they share some distinguishing feature? Yes, there are such places, and the distinguishing feature they share is that none of them is a place where Islam rules.

There is, of course, Texas. There is Scotland which, when the North Sea Oil boom was in full swing (and the menfolk were out there enjoying work, while the women presumably did not) nonetheless saw no worsening in the position of women. There is Alberta, in Canada, where roustabouts and workers of every (male) kind can now find work, but curiously, no change in the status of women has been detected. There is Norway, a state that is taking in a fortune from its oil deposits -- same failure to observe any change in the status of women. There is Russia, ditto. There is Ecuador, which when it was an oil-producer did not experience any sudden mistreatment of women. Clearly, the experience of non-Muslim oil states suggests that "oil" does not explain the mistreatment of women.

The second question Professor -- or "Professor" -- Ross ought to have asked himself is: Are there any countries, or regions within countries, where the position of women is noticeably bad, as bad as it is in the oil states, or rather in the Muslim oil states? And yes, there are.

The most obvious such place is Afghanistan, where girls and women are forced still to wear burqas, and routinely denied education -- despite the best efforts of the Americans and the other NATO troops, schools for girls are routinely burned down and teachers at such schools threatened or killed. And the reason for this mistreatment of Afghan women is Islam, and not oil, for there is no oil in Afghanistan. And the worst mistreatment takes place wherever those who take Islam most to heart as a Complete Regulation of Life, that is, members of the Taliban, rule, or at least can make their power felt.

Another such place is Pakistan, like Afghanistan a Muslim country without oil, and a place where the condition of women may not quite be as bad as it has been in Afghanistan, but it is certainly bad by any reasonable Western standard.

And another such place is Bangladesh, a Muslim-dominated land that has no oil, and a place about which Taslima Nasreen has written so eloquently, and for her pains, has been threatened with other kinds of pains, including that which accompanies decapitation.

Yet another such place is the Sudan, which may now be producing oil, but until recently could not have been called an oil state. And it is in the Muslim parts of the Sudan where women are treated, or mistreated, most disturbingly. And the same is true in Nigeria. In the southern lands, where Christian Ibos and smaller tribes live, and the Shari'a does not apply, women live as equals to men. But in the Muslim north, where the Muslim Hausas dominate, women are mistreated, legally, and mistreated most in those states that have decided to impose the Shari'a.

And if one went systematically through a list of the Muslim states, and separated out the oil-rich states from those that have no oil, one would find that the same kind of mistreatment can be observed in both kinds of states. To the extent that local conditions have enabled the local government to constrain Islam -- as Kemal's reforms did in Turkey, or as Bourguiba's reforms did, to a lesser extent, in Tunisia -- then, to the same extent to which Islam has been tamed, women are mistreated less severely, and accorded equality before the law that, while it may not always be honored, remains the ideal.

Still a third question proposes itself, which is: what were all these places like before the oil bonanza, a century ago, or two centuries, or three? And the answer is: the condition of women was, by Western standards, awful in all of these Muslim countries. The fact that women in the West had not yet achieved the full legal equality they now enjoy, does not mean that they were not already on the path of such achievement, or that their condition ever was akin to that of women in Muslim lands. Professor Ross seems to have no notion that he needs to conduct a diachronic as well as synchronic study, to see through history how women have been treated, in Muslim and in non-Muslim lands. He does not possess a historical sense, and he appears to believe that this lack is acceptable, this lack is not a defect, and he need not study, or account for, the evidence that the past provides in such rich profusion.

Ross asked none of the most obvious questions: what is the position of women in non-Muslim oil states (fine)? What is the position of women in Muslim non-oil states (terrible)? What was the position of women in Muslim lands before oil was discovered and how does it compare to the position of women, in the same centuries, in non-Muslim lands?

It's what social scientists mean when they say that so-and-so's "methodology is flawed." Yes, Professor Ross's methodology is flawed.

Posted by Hugh at March 15, 2008 10:21 AM
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Don't forget Alaska. All residents share in the riches generated by oil, whether or not they work in the industry.
One piece of his argument that makes no sense is the use of foreign workers in Muslim countries. Why aren't the Muslims pumping their own oil? If more of their men actually worked for a living, the women's situation might improve dramatically.
The industries that favor women, like textiles, should flourish in these states because the men are hard at work pumping the oil and have no time to make their own clothes.
You ask what life was like for women in the US centuries before oil? Maybe women didn't have the vote but neither did a lot of the men. The oil boom in this country certainly didn't set back women's rights.
One flaw in Professor Ross's argument is that the industries that favor women become less vital in oil-producing nations, but that is a matter of choice. At one time we made our own clothes, pumped our own oil and manufactured many of the goods used in the home and the workplace. There is only one reason many oil-rich states today can't do the same - Islam.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 10:53 AM

Norway is an oil exporting country. Now I understand why all Norwegian women wear burquas and gays have no rights in Norway. ;) \sarc off

Speaking of liberal Norway:

"Gays should be allowed to wed, adopt: Norway"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080314/lf_afp/norwayrightsgaysadoption_080314160242

Posted by: CTYankee [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 10:59 AM

That this man is a professor at a major university illustrates not only that academic standards are falling, but that the very ability to think rationally is disappearing.

I've been watching this decline for many, many years, sad to say.

Grade schools need to have mandatory logic classes. Young minds need to be, at the very least, introduced to the idea of reason.

Posted by: Vee [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 11:07 AM

Then there is the entire field of comparative machoism, which elevates men over women. 'My' wife, 'my' girl friend'...My, My, My...Very selfish and self centered this macho mymymy. Some religious beliefs, notably that of Islam, only amplify this false sense of ownership, and lead directly to abuses. Ownership by means of mymymyism is a false
ideology. It is in reality not possible to 'own' another person, but you can think you can, and role play the idea. Abuse of women no matter who does it, or where it happens is based on a lie. It is based on a stupid need of stupid men to dominate those who are weaker. Enlightened men do not abuse women, and don't approve of it, or condone it. The intelligent man has learned to turn his soft side to women, because not only is that the right thing to do, but you get more flies with honey than with vinegar.
All it takes is a little honey...and maybe some flowers...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 11:32 AM

Vee;
quoted above is

"That this man is a professor at a major university illustrates not only that academic standards are falling, but that the very ability to think rationally is disappearing."

It is very dangerous .It is yet another tool of justification of Islamic appeasement. Justifying and rationalising Idiocy.A PC analysis.But it is having a bad effect on the modern western society also. It is bringing down standards ,breeding corruption and inefficiency.It is happening gradually in PC democratic nations. All in the name of Affirmative Actions and PCness. Why Islamic heart lands could not develop the modern women teachers ,women proffessors,women doctors,women surgeons,nurses,paramedics etc.?.For this and for weapons they depend on non-Islamic nations.Where are they spending their wealth ?.There is no Auditing of any kind in these Islamic countries. Auditing is against Islam. ( Ask not me what I do with my money !!)There is so much to cover up and catch up with the world and Islam is not willing. Isn't it a Deadly Situation ?.PCs want us to close our eyes.

Posted by: Kash225 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 11:58 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7297139.stm

As if on cue, today on the BBC, Roger Hardy, a resident "Islamic Affairs Analyst", offers his meandering thoughts about the future of the fight against "global terror"--its a struggle for the hearts and minds of million of decent Muslims--its a struggle against radicals--its ideological--counter-terror "experts" think it will last a very long time, maybe one hundred years if we get it wrong, and thirty "if we get it right"--and everyone is afraid of "polarization" caused by stupid things like Danish cartoons.

And, in the whole article, not one mention of jihadist ideology, not one mention of the texts, speeches, arguments, reasons, justifications, used by jihadists on innumerable occasions, well documented by folks like Robert Spencer and others, and, the word "Islam" is not used once.

Posted by: JTF [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 12:29 PM

And it must be noted that Mr Hardy uses the following locution apparently to avoid causing any "polarization" of his own:

"Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad"

Posted by: JTF [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 15, 2008 12:48 PM

Vee said

That this man is a professor at a major university illustrates not only that academic standards are falling, but that the very ability to think rationally is disappearing.

Yes. In most cases, the annals of idiocy are laden with the uninformed, with the vast majority of kufirs who don't know the first thing about Islam.

But in some cases, such as in the case of Professor Ross of UCLA, it goes well beyond, into the territory of willful, intentional ignorance. Or perhaps feigned ignorance. As Hugh pointed out, the obvious questions are unasked. One can only wonder what anti-intellectual forces were required to block those questions from Professor Ross of UCLA's mind. How much effort was required to avoid noticing the self-evident holes in his "theory"?

Or is it an anti-intellectual force of another sort? Is there a Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud Fellowship grant in his near future? Perhaps a gold-plated endowed chair?

We wait with baited breath, or perhaps stifled guffaws, for the release of Professor Ross of UCLA's forthcoming book that explains the "resource curse" that causes countries with abundant oil supplies to have a lower standard of living than countries without oil supplies.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 16, 2008 2:27 AM

Vee said:
That this man is a professor at a major university illustrates not only that academic standards are falling, but that the very ability to think rationally is disappearing.

Absolutely right! In the UK, we have apparently now given up teaching our students how to use logic. The emphasis in most schools and colleges is on (a) imparting a body of information (the 'curriculum') and (b) coaching them in exam technique. Our kids are tested, retested and retested again - each time the educational approach is to work on past exam papers so that they can hone their technique.

The net result of this is that kids are emerging from High School and then College or Uni, having failed to acquire logic skills - that we were being taught in High School (some 30 years ago or so). In the interests of cramming more pupils through further education (because it is government policy and makes the stats look good), we are deferring our children's development of essential logic skills, thus providing a fertile environment for the most irrational religious system in the world.

Frightening, or wot?

Posted by: Kev [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 16, 2008 3:56 AM
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