In a tv series E-Ring (featuring Dennis Hopper) there was an episode, in which a radical Christian group invaded a mosque. When I noticed the plot line, I deleted the episode from my receiver without watching.

http://www.tv.com/e-ring/delta-does-detroit/episode/527915/summary.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;8

In this light it was hardly surprising that E-Ring never made it past first season.

Posted by: Saatanan Islam at March 20, 2008 1:48 PM

Son of a... I think I almost threw up a little in my mouth. Not that I am suprised at this, but come on.

The world will do anything, absolutely anything, to bend reality to cast Jews and Christians in a bad light and let the real evil ones off the hook.

Yes, people have done stupid things incorrectly in the name of Christianity, but it is their own personaltities that lead them to their actions, not the teachings of the Bible. Islam, however, well it's obvious.

Posted by: Grafted at March 20, 2008 1:48 PM

This crap is never going to end unless the people responsible are called to task for their mistakes.

http://www.nbc.com/Footer/Contact_Us/

NBC produces this show. You can go to the above link and let them know what you think about their sick fantasies.

Posted by: Jr. at March 20, 2008 1:50 PM

That was weird, and a good example of why I killed my television years ago...Oh, it wasn't easy, it fought back. It tried to influence my children with MTV, then it tried to influence me, by means of cable, to watch wrestling, and Hannity and Colmes.
When I realized I could no longer tell the difference between Hulk Hogan and Alan Colmes, I knew I had to get the TV out of the house, but first I had to kill it. A sledge hammer worked perfectly.
The children were upset

Posted by: duh_swami at March 20, 2008 1:51 PM

I got about a minute in and after I threw up my lunch, I realized that only in a fictional world can the premise of this show be put forward.

Reality outright refuses it, for this is the inverse of reality, plain and simple.

Who wrote this script?

Posted by: awake at March 20, 2008 1:51 PM

WE need to mock these idiots at every opportunity. Plots like this are simply stupid. It's worthy of Seinfeld's bizarro world.

Posted by: MP at March 20, 2008 1:52 PM

This must not be dropped. Every company that advertises on this show must be boycotted, relentlessly, and boycotted until it drops the show, and until that show drops all of those respoonsible for this disgusting farce.

Posted by: Hugh at March 20, 2008 1:53 PM

That's weird also, the bottom half of my last post is missing...Where oh where did it go?

My children were upset until I replaced the TV with 'homework'.
There was a little more, but I won't re write it, not worth the effort, besides, I forgot already...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 20, 2008 1:56 PM

Law and Order guys - the last time Christians (or pre-Christians, if your will) did any stoning was that "he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

To be truly accurate - it would be Muslims stoning the Muslim girl for having a Christian boyfriend. It happens all the time in the Middle East. Europe, too. And even right here in America.

You don't have to make it up. And if you do, let's get it right.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 20, 2008 1:58 PM

Totally stupid. Hollywood are such cowards.

Posted by: Bingo at March 20, 2008 2:04 PM

Disgusting.

This is one of the reasons I got rid of my TV.

Posted by: US_infidel at March 20, 2008 2:04 PM

Hey! Maybe the folks at NBC are trying to send us a secret message and what they really mean is the reverse of this? /lots of sarcasm

Seriously, this is UNACCEPTABLE in todays world.

Moi says we need to issue a fatwa.

Posted by: DeeMack at March 20, 2008 2:05 PM

Post your comments on the clip here:

http://www.nbc.com/Law_&_Order/video/#mea=230767

Posted by: awake at March 20, 2008 2:08 PM

I think the main point is being missed here...these people are extremely AFRAID of muslims. They know that one false move, one false word, and muslims who live in America may be cutting their throats and stabbing knives with notes into their chests. Very simple. Its very easy to mock peaceful people...takes no guts.

Posted by: No More Ham, Ed at March 20, 2008 2:09 PM

Amazing. They make the entire focus of the show the supposed violent reaction of the Christians to some abstract muslim atrocities. Yet they have NO evidence of any of this occurring among Christians.

Even the abortion clinic bombers were UNIVERSALLY condemned by virtually ALL church leaders.

Why don't they focus the show in reality? Show the muslim jihad scumbags at their best, shooting crippled old men in the head, throwing acid in the faces of women, and blowing up school busses full of children, ALL IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!

The short-lived PAX TV series Sue Thomas FBEye did get it right. Whenever they had an episode which concerned terrorism, they gave an accurate portrayal of the terrororist and of those fighting terrorism.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at March 20, 2008 2:12 PM

Posted by: No More Ham, Ed at March 20, 2008 2:09 PM

Nonsense. Are you suggesting the false anti-Christian propoganda put forth in this show is out of fear of Muslims?

Why not just avoid the topic altogether then?

Posted by: awake at March 20, 2008 2:12 PM

Its much safer to criticize “Christians” for these imaginary things, than to criticize Islam for any real ones.

Those brave Hollyweird liberals, so willing to standup to nothing, while pretending to stand for something.

I was under the impression that the “society of professional journalist” and its imaginary moral equivalence standards applied only to newspapers?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=29149_Society_of_Professional_Journalists_Advocates_Whitewashing_Islam&only

Posted by: BurgerBoy at March 20, 2008 2:14 PM

JR
I never thought the day will come I would defend anything Christian.
I was wrong.
The Law and Order episode about stoning a Christian girl for having a Moslem lover was so disgusting I sent e-mail to NBC asking them if they have any shame left.

Posted by: pong at March 20, 2008 2:15 PM

Disgusting.

This is one of the reasons I got rid of my TV.

Posted by: US_infidel at March 20, 2008 2:04 PM
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Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at March 20, 2008 2:18 PM

What's REALLY sickening is all the posts on the clipboard of people saying the episode was good! WTF????????????????????????????

Posted by: DeeMack at March 20, 2008 2:20 PM

Maybe they were talking about Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Surely they wouldn't cast all Christians in this light. (sarcasm)

The writers are obviously seeing the muslim violence, but are in terror of bringing the perpetrators front and center. Why can't the writers admit that muslim terror works and they are afraid of writing the truth.

Christians may critisize their content, but I don't see any of them going 'jihad' on the writers. And the writers know this, they know Christians are safe to critisize.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at March 20, 2008 2:20 PM

"But where are the Christian ones(armies)?"

That appears to be the problem. True blue Christians are too busy trying to teach creationism and stop abortion to be bothered with something as trivial as jihad. They have spent millions on anti-abortion lobbyists and these looney creation museums. The not-so-Christian Christians are too busy trying to live from day to day.

Then there are the missionaries sent into harms way spreading the "good news" in places where ther are most likely to be jailed or killed.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 2:21 PM

A correction: The woman, not a girl, was stoned to death by her son because she was having sex outside of marriage. The Muslim angle was a red herring in the show. The theme was that the son, inexplicably, joined a fanatic Christian camp/ministry which was preparing for some sort of vaguely defined holy war. The son had apparently believed he was getting revelations from God which the minister interpreted and which lead to his killing his mother for her unfaithfulness. As L&O shows go, it wasn't bad; again the Muslim issue was entirely peripheral.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at March 20, 2008 2:24 PM

Sooooo true Pelayo.

Christians are very fragmented.

Again, strength in numbers but if those numbers are fragmented... NADA!

Lets just hope everyone comes together in November's election so the second-to-last nail doesn't get nailed into America's coffin.

Posted by: DeeMack at March 20, 2008 2:26 PM

This episode of Law & Order was reminiscent of last fall's Cold Case episode (CBS) in which Christian students stoned one of promiscuous students. However, the Cold Case episode didn't mention Islam, as far as I remember.

World Net Daily article on that episode of Cold Case:

The latest episode of the CBS crime show "Cold Case" depicted presumably devout Christian teens in an abstinence club as sexually active hypocrites who literally stone a member to keep their sins secret.

[...]

Tina justifies the murder by paraphrasing the King James Version of Deuteronomy 22:21: "The whore should be stoned so thou shalt put evil away among you."...

World Net Daily also published an article about objections to that episode.

Both Cold Case and Law & Order are shows with a high viewership. I suspect that they have an influence. People are inclined to believe such fictitious representations over the facts.

Both times, when I watched each of those programs, I was hoping to watch something on television to give my mind a rest from following the march of Islam. So much for that respite! I got something much less than a respite: I got one show ignoring who is doing modern day stonings and another making counter-jihadist look like a bunch of maniacs no better than jihadists.

We live in a world where the media, both the news and entertainment, twist and invert reality.

Posted by: Always On Watch at March 20, 2008 2:29 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Seymour Paine. Explains some of those comments that were freaking me out

Posted by: DeeMack at March 20, 2008 2:29 PM

You left out gay marriage, Pelayo.

Posted by: non-croyant at March 20, 2008 2:29 PM

I liked it when they spelled out the plan for the caliphate to the masses. It's just that they used a fanatic nut case to convey the message, leading the viewer to ignore it as the rantings of a lunatic.

That is why we will lose this clash of cultures.

Posted by: walterc at March 20, 2008 2:32 PM

Tiptoeing on the tulips of political correctness. I am feeling so enlightened.

Posted by: ethoman at March 20, 2008 2:39 PM

Law & Order used to be awesome. What a shame

Posted by: kyros at March 20, 2008 2:40 PM

When contacting NBC, it would help if the show's title were referenced; it's "Angelgrove."

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20080306nbc19

It was a reference in Wiki, good for something.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 2:48 PM

Typical left wing propaganda. Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: tori at March 20, 2008 2:54 PM

Look, it's a TV show, not a documentary. They have sponsors; as a rule, they are pretty pro-Jewish. But every now and then they do a Muslim show and of course they have to show some of them are decent, the good iman who turns state's evidence, etc. But they have also shown the darker side of Islam many times, so I'd take any of these shows with a large dose of bourbon.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at March 20, 2008 3:03 PM

This program would work rather well as a parody. And Samwise Gamgee sitting there at the end of the video telling us "in case you hadnt noticed we're at war... our enemies understand that", well, a few people out there need to understand that...

Posted by: Uriel Septim at March 20, 2008 3:06 PM

"A correction: The woman, not a girl, was stoned to death by her son because she was having sex outside of marriage. The Muslim angle was a red herring in the show. The theme was that the son, inexplicably, joined a fanatic Christian camp/ministry which was preparing for some sort of vaguely defined holy war. The son had apparently believed he was getting revelations from God which the minister interpreted and which lead to his killing his mother for her unfaithfulness. As L&O shows go, it wasn't bad; again the Muslim issue was entirely peripheral."

[Posted by: Seymour Paine at March 20, 2008 2:24 PM]

Before writing to NBC, read the posting by Seymour Paine at 2:24 -- and reposted here, above, as well -- so that, while you rightly complain, in fury, about the show, you also have the facts right as to who is doing the stoning, and for what reason. It was a son stoning his mother because of her extramarital activities, not a father killing a daughter for dating Muslims. Robert's description of the plot as centering on a "Christian girl stoned to death for having a Muslim boyfriend" is inaccurate.

Any inaccuracy in your own complaint to those who put on "Law and Order" will of course be adduced as evidence of the complainer's ignorance and presumed hysteria. The full account of the program does not, I think, diminish one's justified anger, or right to complain, or desire to participate in a boycott of sponsors. What they did is bad enough. By all means complain, and boycott, for the obvious transferral of blame, from Islam onto Christianity, of the kind of punishment routinely meted out in those "honor killiings," is misleading, cowardly, and ultimately, dangerous.

And a boycott of advertisers is still a good idea. Perhaps, however, those in Congress who are supposed to oversee the FCC, and thus those on the FCC who are supposed to oversee, among other things, television, can also be alerted.

But for now, start with that boycott. Make it spread. Get the subject onto radio talk shows. Let it pullulate, and percolate. In the end, depriving them of money is the only way to get their attention, at "Law and Order" itself and at the network that carries it, and to force them to admit that this kind of thing is ludicrous, and that they must start exhibiting a good-faith attempt at putting on the kind of thing that, even vaguely, starts to resemble, when it comes to such subjects, the truth.

That is all one is asking for, when one protests this kind of false and hideous travesty. Not anything more.

Posted by: Hugh at March 20, 2008 3:06 PM

"They have spent millions on anti-abortion lobbyists and these looney creation museums. The not-so-Christian Christians are too busy trying to live from day to day."

Wow maybe Pelayo should write the next episode of Law and Order by commenting with this drivel. Since every person on the face of the planet has come from the position of the womb, MORE money needs to be spent to protect the lives of the precious unborn. And like there is "creation museums" on every corner of every major city now...talk about overstating a issue to point of comparing a fart to a nuke.

With these Hollowood fantasies, just more of the incredible hatred of Christianity, willing use Islam as the partner in the victim of love heartfelt tragedy as Jesus Jihadists honor kill a young women falling into romance with the religion of peace.

[excuse me while I go lose my lunch over all this idiocy..*puke*]

Posted by: SoteriA at March 20, 2008 3:06 PM

"Since every person on the face of the planet has come from the position of the womb, MORE money needs to be spent to protect the lives of the precious unborn."

Sorry SoteriA but none of this will matter if WE'RE ALL DEAD cause the Islamotards KILLED US!

That's alllll we're sayin here. PRIORITIES.

Posted by: DeeMack at March 20, 2008 3:12 PM

Sharia Law & Order:

"In the Islamic criminal justice system, the people are oppressed by two separate, yet equally important groups: The religious police who investigate the crime, and the judges who hand down sentences of stoning, lashings, beheading, or amputation. These are their stories."

Da-DUM!

Posted by: MarisolJW at March 20, 2008 3:15 PM

This segment of Law and Order illustrates media distortions of 'issues' at their most insidious. Who knows HOW much income media producers like LAW AND ORDER'S Dick Wolf, his sponsors and stars receive from the oil-rich Muslim world for cranking out this type of heavily-biased fiction?

The best line of defense we have against such media distortions is EDUCATION. This is really not a religious matter. It isn't even political.

Although this show IS admittedly fiction (and which is something I enjoy, ands I admit am even occasionally entertained by this particular program) millions who watch it are not likely to understand that this show does NOT reflect reality (except the minds of the persons who script and produce it) and will buy into the nonsense it is selling us here.

Islam's war is not religious as we understand the term to be: it is an eternal war to obliterate everything that is non-Islamic. Thus, democracy and freedoms are well and truly threatened by Islam's present jihad wars against the west (which is not a problem with Christianity). Since when would that be an esoteric point-- except perhaps in the universe of Dick Wolf.

What was most reprehensible of what I saw is that the show seems to be saying "try to defend yourselves against Islamic terror and the establishment will smear you as a crackpot,violent warmonger" and Islam is let off the hook before our eyes. One would NOT need to be a Christian to react against the violent Islamic global jihad. Look at the violence in thailand against the Buddhist communities or the trouble faced by Hindus in places like Bangladesh or Assam. Would these non-Muslim people be fanatical for responding against Islamic threats against their lives? Law and Order seems be saying 'yes.'

By the way: An "eye for an eye" is NOT necessarily about revenge as the characters in the show tell us; 'an eye for an eye' can also be, when applied as an inter-tribal, inter-society policy a low-tech Mutually Assured Destruction pact: kill our people, we'll kill yours. Hence MAD (and sometines 'an eye for an eye') is really a form of deterrence; what legal authorities condemn deterrence of crime? Isn't unilaterally-declared war against non-Muslim by Islam essentially a violation of international law anyway? Hasn't international law been mostly ineffectual in stopping the advance of global jihad wars? Note that none of this enters into the world of Dick Wolf.

There is JUST NO GOOD REASON FOR AMERICANS NOT KNOWING the ten commandments and that Judeo-Christianism EFFECTIVELY OUTLAWS homicide in the ten commandments (written IN STONE after all) while the Kuran effectively teaches and institutes the practice of first degree murder for many reasons including the achieving of political goals. Thus the show's depiction of Christianity is not believable. And in fact the biggest problem with Christians is that globally they have generally been far too slow to deal with Islamic aggression and violence against them (as we see in Europe). If more people understood all this, Dick Wolf would not be able to attract such high ratings by resorting to such negative and distorted depictions of Christians.

The universe of Dick Wolf is out of synch with reality (but is it maybe in synch with Arab under-the-table payola?).

I see an overall breakdown in the the quality of American education. Otherwise we would not having to be dealing with this nonsense as seen on LAW and ORDER.

Posted by: pythagoras at March 20, 2008 3:18 PM

This program would work rather well as a parody. And Samwise Gamgee sitting there at the end of the video telling us "in case you hadnt noticed we're at war... our enemies understand that", well, a few people out there need to understand that...
Posted by: Uriel Septim

Actually, I watched the show and it occurred to me about halfway through that it was a parody.

But on the other hand, since Law & Order gets many of their script ideas from real life incidents, maybe soon we'll see an episode where a Jewish boy steals the doily off a muslim kid's head and gets hit by a car while running away!

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at March 20, 2008 3:18 PM

And this is why I watch South Park. Say what you want about the show at least they're still willing to offend EVERYONE equally...

Posted by: TheDiggler at March 20, 2008 3:25 PM

Well what do expect from the media... My Oh My I would be seeing mass riots and flag burning and death to the USA and Israel and NBC very soon--do not think so. But God forbid show the Muslims fundamentalists all hell will brake loose and NBC will be sending "Oh we are so sorry to offend, please Islam is a religion of peace." CAIR will be filling a lawsuit etcetera.

Posted by: savsiv at March 20, 2008 3:33 PM

TheDiggler,

Think again.

Muhammad still (mostly) off-limits at Comedy Central
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012278.php

Posted by: BurgerBoy at March 20, 2008 3:37 PM

Law and Order is a work of fiction but they do often make up their stories from real incidents. Most of the time they keep a lot of the surface details similar. One L and O case was based on the Samuel Sheinbein case and their version tweaked the details so that the perp ended up not be Jewish enough. Their crime families usually have Italian names (as did the ones in real life in NYC). So, turning the tables here is an example of cowardice.

Posted by: Jerry M at March 20, 2008 3:44 PM

"Sorry SoteriA but none of this will matter if WE'RE ALL DEAD cause the Islamotards KILLED US!"

You don't drop opposition to all this is wrong just to fight another wrong. Dealing with Jihad and liberals at the same time is being made easy since they seem to want to be strange bedfellows in their assault on liberty.

Posted by: SoteriA at March 20, 2008 3:46 PM

*correction*

You don't drop opposition to all that is wrong just to fight another wrong.

Posted by: SoteriA at March 20, 2008 3:47 PM

awake wrote" I got about a minute in and after I threw up my lunch"

HAH!! I lasted a little longer, but as soon as I realized where it was going I changed the channel. Glad I wasn't the only one, lol.

Posted by: gymgal at March 20, 2008 4:07 PM

"Dealing with Jihad and liberals at the same time is being made easy since they seem to want to be strange bedfellows in their assault on liberty."

I hate Muslims because, if they had their way -

women would be little better than cattle
homosexuals would be executed
atheists would be executed - or, short of that - they would want to make atheists feel subdued by giving Muslim beliefs the official stamp of government authority - probably by:
a) forcing salat on kids in school
b) having the courts implement Shar'ia, with Qur'anic passages displayed on courthouse walls
c) minting coins with "Allahu Ackbar" stamped on them
d) enacting blasphemy laws
e) demolishing education by replacing it with backward religious myths about the realities of the universe
f) curtailing freedom of expression

Some liberals are ignorantly self-hating.

This liberal will be no one's dhimmi.

Posted by: non-croyant at March 20, 2008 4:09 PM

I stopped watching Law and Order along with its mini-mutants some time ago, tiring of the overt and ceaseless liberal spin and blatant political-correctness storylines. I’m glad I did or I would have tossed my biscuits watching the episode which is mentioned here.
The leftist zealots and propagandists of this trash are no different than their counterparts of CNN, MSNBC and so-forth – they are all on a mission to distort and manipulate truth to meet their leftist, political-correct agenda.
They loathe Christianity… until it comes to the hate-monger and racist Pastor Wright and his disciple Barak: or is it the other way about?

Posted by: ballzack at March 20, 2008 4:09 PM

I just emailed NBC.

I won't even turn on the channel to find out who their advertisers are so that one is out for me to boycott them.

This is getting sickening. The chosen stupidity from this station that has already been labeled a left wing station. The left wingers are just idiots - dangerous idiots.

Posted by: R_not at March 20, 2008 4:10 PM

I caught the very end, so I missed the parts relating to Islam.

It was so very over-the-top, even by Law & Order standards, with the moral/cultural equivalence message, that I figured it either had to be a self-parody, OR, they were encrypting the real message (i.e., reverse the religious labels to understand actual episode's story) because they were too afraid to tell the story the way it would (and does) play out in the real world.

Or perhaps they don't grasp how they be-clown themselves.

Posted by: Consul-At-Arms at March 20, 2008 4:13 PM

I turned off my television 15 years ago. From what I hear, I'm not missing much.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at March 20, 2008 4:15 PM

"It was so very over-the-top, even by Law & Order standards, with the moral/cultural equivalence message, that I figured it either had to be a self-parody, OR, they were encrypting the real message (i.e., reverse the religious labels to understand actual episode's story) because they were too afraid to tell the story the way it would (and does) play out in the real world."

In a rare fit of television watching I did catch this episode, and I had the same hypothesis churning in my head.

My take is that they could be trying to demonstrate how absurd religiously motivated punishment for moral crimes in Islam is by framing it in Christianity.

Sure, you can find commandments to stone adulteresses in the Old Testament, but the New Testament (particularly the red words) and I would guess the Talmud etc have neutered that law in the present day, so it was hard to swallow how a jury who (going against the judge's orders) consulted the Bible for guidance could rule how they did.

More likely they were trying to demonstrate how all relgion-based laws are absurd, with which I agree, but if they think that using mainstream Christianity as a vehicle for demonstrating that is valid then that is where they erred.

Yes, there are and have been Christian-based fringe groups with barbaric Muslim-like moral laws and punishments, but they are fringe groups (or mainstream, but in the ignorant past).

Portraying a jury of presumably mainstream Americans (and therefore probably mainstream Christians) ostensibly finding validation in the Bible for stoning as a punishment for adultery is so absurd in itself that any valid lesson is lost.

If the jury had returned with a verdict of "guilty" a lot of you would still be complaining on the false basis that groups like the one led by Sean Astin's character in the episode haven't, don't, and can't exist, but the moral of the story would have been more defensible.

Posted by: non-croyant at March 20, 2008 4:41 PM

Who cares about "Law and Order"? It's a piece of junk, anyway. Captain James T. Kirk has more principles.

Posted by: PMK at March 20, 2008 4:47 PM

I did not look at the epidose itself but, come on, read again wat DeeMack already explained:
"the folks at NBC are trying to send us a secret message and what they really mean is the reverse of this"
To me his explanation is not pure sarcasm.
Maybe the broadcaster has a completely dhimmi-attitude but surely it is possible that the writer of this episode meant to send this (hardly) secret message.
So many ordinary people immediately see that this is a reversion of the real world.

Posted by: FransG at March 20, 2008 4:59 PM

LOL I just read the comments on the NBC site, even the Muslims are choked. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Posted by: gymgal at March 20, 2008 5:29 PM

I really really want to believe that this episode was allegory.

Posted by: non-croyant at March 20, 2008 5:34 PM

Spineless, clueless media, seem to be ever so creative creating new fictional enemies and missing the real ones.

If only those rabid, nasty war mongering fundamentalist Christians would live up to our fantasies. At least if we upset them we can sleep soundly in our beds without a 24hr security presence. Of course it is the bible that has all those horrid war oppressing, supremacist teachings, we know we haven't read it. The quran is a book of loving peace, that nice Imam told us so (or else!), oh and yes we didn't read that either!"

Posted by: James at March 20, 2008 5:46 PM

SoteriA, if you lose you lunch over what I have written, then at least I have accomplished something good today.

The Archduke of Canterbury has suggested that sharia law might be OK. We have Christian leaders writing pitifully groveling letters to Mulsims. I am beginning to think that the clergy cannot be counted on.

Creation Museums:
A partial list -

Museum of Earth History, Eureka Springs, Arkansas

Biblical Archeology and Anthropology Museum, Ridgecrest, California

DINO Creation Museum, Center for Natural Studies, Carmichael, California

Institute for Creation Research Museum, Institute for Creation Research, Santee, California

Creation Adventures Museum, Arcadia, Florida

Creation Discovery Museum, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

The Gallery of Creation, Stone Mountain, Georgia,

Creation Museum, Petersburg, Kentucky

Creation Museum, Taxidermy Hall of Fame of North Carolina, and Antique Tool Museum, Southern Pines, North Carolina

Ark Museum and Dinosaur Park, Murfreesboro, Tennessee

Wyatt Museum, Cornersville, Tennessee

Liberty University Museum, Lynchburg, Virginia

I can't let petty insult remain unanswered.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 5:48 PM

TV fiction does have impact. Many times Sgt Joe Friday would tell someone if they wanted to discuss the case downtown, as if the police could force that person to the police station without being arrested. Viewers believed it. That is just one very old example.

Then, there are tactics used by Columbo (Peter Falk) that would probably get every case dismissed. That is what a lawyer once told me.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 5:59 PM

One cannot make this stuff up:

Creation Museum, Taxidermy Hall of Fame of North Carolina, and Antique Tool Museum

http://www.thecreationmuseum.org/

Right next to the Billy Ray's School of Medicine and Lawn Mower Repair.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 6:05 PM

Fortunately, most Americans, even those who sometimes entertain themselves with vacuous network programming, are not as stupid as the producers and writers think they are. If you polled those who viewed these idiotic Cold Case and Law & Order episodes, and asked them: OK, now how many of you think that Christian fundamentalists routinely murder their friends and relatives who act in what they think is an immoral manor, only the most brain-dead 'kos kidz' would raise their hands. As for everyone else, well, I think they 'get' the point, which is that it's really about another "religion", but either 1) the producers and script writers are too cowardly to portray it as such or 2) but it would be so unfair and racist of us to think that ONLY THAT "religion" would do such a thing. Either way, it pretty much trivializes the drama and makes for a boring hour.

Posted by: Infidel33 at March 20, 2008 6:14 PM

Pelayo so what? Leave to you to whine about 13 creation museums in a Nation of 300 million? In a thread that has to do outrageous slander of Christans? So some believers in the bible are not being hypocritical by following after what the bible says about creation and following through on their beliefs?

The Christians I hang with are pro-Israel and believe the military option against Islamic interests should happen...then again that should be the attitude of anybody that cherishes liberty.

Posted by: SoteriA at March 20, 2008 6:22 PM

Hugh Wrote,

"This must not be dropped. Every company that advertises on this show must be boycotted, relentlessly, and boycotted until it drops the show, and until that show drops all of those responsible for this disgusting farce."

NBC is, by far, the worst of the networks. I would get outraged by the garbage that would occur on shows such as "Crossing Jordan" and "Law and Order, SVU." When these shows first started out, they were not bad. I especially liked "Law and Order" and watched it for many years. If I had watched this episode, I probably would have taken a bat to my TV. Something very bad has happened at NBC.

There is another alternative.

Stop watching TV entirely. I gave my TV away a long time ago and have never felt better. Sure, I went thru withdrawal for about a month or so, but that was it. Now, and especially when I hear about such an absurd plot, I am very glad to have done so.

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 20, 2008 6:35 PM

My comment that struck your sensitivity nerve was in response to the question, "Where are the Christian Armies?" I gave my opinion, and I stand behind it. This "Army Of Christians" is too busy imposing its beliefs on every one else, and that self-absorbed army is ignoring the real problem.

I posted those museums because I thought you were implying there were just one or two. There are in fact more than just thirteen. It must mean something that you counted them and claimed that I was whining.

Do you actually believe in a flat, 6000 year old Earth? Fundamentalist Muslims believe in a flat one. I do not know much about the Muslim claims of Earth's age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 6:49 PM

To those of you who claim to have no TV. Really? I only need mine for football, NASCAR, and "Two and a Half Men."

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 6:52 PM

Yes, Pelayo, Really!

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 20, 2008 6:56 PM

NBC produces this show. You can go to the above link and let them know what you think about their sick fantasies.
Posted by: Jr.

I just posted my comments at NBC. Suggested they do a show were the guy on the gurney comes back to life. Oh, he is a Christian.

Actually I told them that they should have also said in the story that these were alleged Christians and that Christians don't condone or do these things. I reminded them that Christians go to the sick, orphans and widows. Sense we are at war we should tell the truth about what is going on not put out lies and propaganda. They could still make a show that is entertaining but informative.

Like some others have mentioned I have been off TV for about 2 months (the thing died and I have not bought a new/used one). Gives me time to blog here and else where. You know what, I don't miss it at all. And with rubbish like this being, glad I missed it.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at March 20, 2008 6:57 PM

I've seen numerous episodes over the past year on Law & Order, as well as on a few other similar programs. The pro-Muslim push is the reason this year's "24" will go down the ratings tube and may have been why Joel Surnow left the show. As long as the liberals control the programming, it will get worse, not better.

Posted by: Connie at March 20, 2008 7:05 PM

Time to buy another book for some good entertainment value, I so do not miss my TV.

Posted by: senor doeboy at March 20, 2008 7:18 PM

Patagonianplato, that "Really?" was not a sarcastic comment. I have only known one person who did not have a TV. There are just too many informational channels on cable to do without one.

Except for one sitcom, I do manage to get by without the alphabet networks.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 7:31 PM

Another good reason to not have a TV.

I am listening to the Mark Levin radio show on the internet.

He played an audio clip of Bill Maher. Maher said that the reason that there is a war on terror is because we invaded Iraq.

Whether one agrees or disagrees about whether invading Iraq was a good idea or not, (I think it was a horrible idea,) is immaterial to my point.

Even the mentally challenged, such as Maher, know that 9-11 occurred before the invasion of Iraq. Maher has got to be one of the biggest dopes out there. How does one watch and listen to such lunacy and not want to kick the screen in.

For those of you without TV, you can get lots of information and entertainment from internet radio. I had been a shortwave radiophile my whole life, but with the internet, shortwave just isn’t as good anymore.

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 20, 2008 7:32 PM

What I'm thinking is that maybe they're doing what George Orwell did in Animal Farm. Instead of writing about the Soviet Union as such, he writes about communism in terms of a farmyard.

Maybe this is what they are trying to do. Maybe they just can't write about muslims, so they have to say that it's christians who doing, what we all know that muslims always do.

Maybe they assume or are hoping, that their audience will know what they are trying to say. And that is that it is muslims who are the danger, but because they can't say it, they have to frame it in terms of christians.

Actually I think that it's pretty clever.

Posted by: Voltaire at March 20, 2008 7:55 PM

Pelayo,

I haven't had a TV for three years.. I can get all the information I need from the net and radio. I have so much timefor myself, I returned to school. It's great, I'm so much happier living my life then watching someone else's made up life. As I told a friend of mine once, stop watching "Friends" and lets go be friends and make some more too.

Also dicovered these strange rectangular shaped things called "books". :D

Posted by: senor doeboy at March 20, 2008 8:01 PM

Voltaire,

If your analysis is correct, and I am not yet convinced that it is, how pathetic is this. You have to accuse a Christian of doing something that he did not do just to indict Muslims for doing something that they do, do!?

If we have reached such a point, we truly are screwed.

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 20, 2008 8:05 PM

patagonianplato, Bill Maher alone is a reason not to have a TV. There are George Carlin and Lewis Black two reasons to have one.

You're missing the Military Channel, History Channel, National Geographic, Discovery Channel, Sci Fi, old movies - the good reasons.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 8:13 PM

It appears, from this LAW AND ORDER fantasy, that the scriptwriter is the only one stoned here.

Maybe his next script will read:

_________________________________________________
"LAW AND ORDER: IVU (Infidel Victim's Unit)"

FADE IN-

INT. SHABBY HOLLYWOOD APT. DAY.

A TV WRITER is feverishly tapping on his laptop, finishing his latest script.

INSERT: ECU of p.c. screen where the words "THE END" are typed to the document.

WRITER
(sighs)
A blow against the fascist Christian zealots! Hah!
(rises)

SOUND: KNOCK on door.

The WRITER peeks out through his curtained front door and sees a PIZZA GUY on the stoop. An "Asian"-type fellow wearing a striped "Mecca of Pizza" tunic.

WRITER
(opens door)
That was quick!

PIZZA GUY
(hands closed pizza box to Writer)
I rode like the wind. $17.90.

WRITER
(opens box lid expectantly, but is crestfallen)
Where's the sausage? I ordered sausage?

PIZZA GUY
We do not allow pork on our pies.

WRITER
Says who?!?

PIZZA GUY
The Ultimate Authority, Allah.

WRITER
You gotta be kiddin'!?!

PIZZA GUY
(grimly)
There is no joking in my faith.

The Writer meekly pays, closes door, sits and eats the unadorned pie forlornly.

FADE TO BLACK.

__________________________________________________

This is the future these delusional Tinseltown writers and producers are encouraging by their mendacious "moral equivalence".

Failing to grasp the basic truth:

Christians are dangerous when they do not follow their faith, while Muslims are dangerous when they do.

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 20, 2008 8:30 PM

Pelayo,

I agree with you that there are still excellent productions available. I guess that I decided that I would tell all of them to go to Hades.

By the way, some of the last History Channel documentaries that I had watched before I went cold-turkey seemed to have quite a bit of revisionism and political correctness creeping into them.

I get a bit riled when people start messing with the facts.

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 20, 2008 8:34 PM

patagonianplato, I once read a book about the American Civil War, in one chapter it was flatly stated that slavery was not a contributing factor in the cause of that war. Cultural differences and trade were cited. It was a long time ago, but I do remember that the author was a Southerner. Revisionists can haunt the TV or the library.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 8:46 PM

profitsbeard, your pizza pie story was great!! LOL!!!

"Christians are dangerous when they do not follow their faith, while Muslims are dangerous when they do."

Posted by: profitsbeard

Ain't that the truth!

Posted by: champ at March 20, 2008 8:49 PM

Pelayo,

"Revisionists can haunt the TV or the library."

I could not possibly agree with you more.

But, I will never abandon books. Unlike TV, I am way too addicted to books. I just do a little more research before I buy one.

In general, if the libs gives a book a poor rating at Amazon.com, I am much more interested in it.

I speak as a University of California graduate who somehow managed to earn Highest Honors, and get elected into Phi-Beta-Kappa, all the while being a stone-cold Conservative.

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 20, 2008 8:59 PM

I am guessing The South Was Right!, Pelayo.

Was that it?

Posted by: non-croyant at March 20, 2008 9:00 PM

Non-croyant, the book I read was written in the late sixties. It was a book more about the battles and strategy than anything, but the first part tried to get at the cause.

I guess it all depends on what color you great-great-grandpa's uniform was, blue or gray.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 9:12 PM

ImImNoDhimmi wrote, "...maybe soon we'll see an episode where a Jewish boy steals the doily off a muslim kid's head and gets hit by a car while running away!"

Not so "maybe"; here's an item from today's NY Post:

'An assistant rabbi whose yarmulke was swiped by Arab men turned the tables on his tormentors, chasing one into a Brooklyn street where the thief was struck by a car and arrested, police said yesterday.

"There were no words exchanged. I decided to chase him to get my yarmulke back," Ohana said.

Hussein's friends joined in the foot pursuit, screaming "Allah-hu Akbar," which means "God is great." '

Fittingly, 'They ran outside and Hussein darted into the street, where he was hit by a blue Volvo and toppled to the ground, cops said.'

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202008/news/regionalnews/yarmulke_yahoos_best_not_mess_with_this__102740.htm

Let's see if this gets picked up by the media. I'm betting not, of course.

Posted by: Vee at March 20, 2008 9:20 PM

Ooops! I have to stop reading from the top down. I see Robert posted this story already.

But anyway, Marisol - that Law & Order itro you penned was brilliant! I don't know which is weirder; being able to write that, or laugh at it. (But I did.)

Posted by: Vee at March 20, 2008 9:26 PM

I have got to find a new church. Nothing like this ever happens where I attend. Complaining that the minister went too long? Of course. Bickering over hymns vs praise music? Certainly. But a good old fashioned stoning? Never.

What a boring life I lead.

(Side note: we have a TV, but no cable. And since we live a ways out of town, we pretty much only bother with the rabbit ears for Redskins games. We can get the the best of documentaries and old TV shows/movies on video/DVD at the library (for free) and watch them at our convenience. Right now, the TV is blank, and son #1 is reading a book to his dad.)

Posted by: CJ at March 20, 2008 9:34 PM

I watched this episode last night and discussed the show at LGF.
Just pitiful.
At first the show directs the viewer towards a very enlightened moslem artist.
Then the woman is killed on top of a building by stoning (I missed how the evil Christian got that pile of rocks to the top of the building...anyone?)
It was just what I figured would happen. I fully expect the Christian twist in television shows.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at March 20, 2008 9:42 PM

Interestinconundrum, rocks, roof ballast.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 20, 2008 10:26 PM

Look, it's a TV show, not a documentary. They have sponsors; as a rule, they are pretty pro-Jewish.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at March 20, 2008 3:03 PM

And when it comes to Muslims versus Jews, I draw the jury's attention to 2005 episode "Bible Story". Does anyone remember how it started, and who's the bully?

Posted by: Shy Guy at March 20, 2008 11:58 PM

Shy Guy, haven't you seen the memo? The Jews are in charge of everything.

The Jews are writing these Jew baiting plots so that we will not believe they run everything. Brilliant psychologists these Jews.

They even fixed the NCAA b'ball tournament so that BYU and Oral Roberts would lose. They'll take care of Notre Dame next. Crafty, crafty.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 21, 2008 12:23 AM

"Do you actually believe in a flat, 6000 year old Earth? Fundamentalist Muslims believe in a flat one. I do not know much about the Muslim claims of Earth's age.

This is interesting Pelayo. Trying to imply Christian fundamentalists and Muslim fundamentalists have some sort of parallel? Maybe I should address you as Rosie Pelayo O'Donnell if want to invent some more absurdities. Interesting how someone jumps the comment section on a topic about blatant anti-Christian rhetoric and tries link Christians who believe the bible with Islamic radicals.

Wow...

Posted by: SoteriA at March 21, 2008 12:28 AM

Well, as usual, the leftist types in Hollywood are being useful idiots for the enemy!!!

Death before Dhimmitude!!!

Posted by: Jill Infidel at March 21, 2008 4:14 AM

To Patagonianplato and others:

If I was a muslim and if I had any brains at all, I would be very worried by this episode of Law and Order.

The Christian pastor is speaking the truth when he says that muslims intend to seduce or rape western infidel women. We all know what is happening in Malmo Sweden, and elsewhere.

They are probably worried about being sued by CAIR so they have to take precautions. But because the truth is being enunciated by the "bad guy" christian pastor, CAIR can't do anything, but the message is still getting out there.

I think that a lot of people will get this subversive message about Islam.

It may be pathetic to do it this way, but we live in pathetic times.

Posted by: Voltaire at March 21, 2008 5:03 AM

More from the "bad christian pastor".

"What do you say to muslims who murder christians"? "This means war."

"We are engaged in a great battle with muslims."

"In case you haven't noticed we're at war. A war of religions, our enemies understand that" They use their madrassas to turn our soldiers against us. "They want to take over the world and install a caliphate."

Good on you, "bad" christian pastor.

Posted by: Voltaire at March 21, 2008 5:49 AM

Sorry I meant to say, They use their madrassas to turn out soldiers against us.

Posted by: Voltaire at March 21, 2008 5:51 AM

Christians don't use the word infidels, though 'Heretics' was a popular excuse for burning people... We don't use the words Holy Wars, either. Although we are commanded to gird up our spiritual nether regions with the sword of truth, and shields and suchlike, I believe those were allusions to deeper truths about what we put in our minds, and how we occupy ourselves. The "scripturesque" quotes are truly unscriptural, and the hysterical statements about Jason being a prophet are silly. They are antithetical to what Christians know about their scriptures, and anyone familiar with the New Testament...or even the Old One, will see this for what it is...horribly bad writing. L&O always recycles their actors and their plots. I think I have seen this plot in one form or another at least a dozen times. A suckworthy endeavor, indeed.

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at March 21, 2008 8:52 AM

SoteriA, you can bet your posterior I'm implying parallels between Islamic fundamentalists and Christian fundamentalists.

The only difference is the lack of bombs and bullets coming from the Christian side. Who is trying to destroy science education in the US with lawsuits that will force the teaching of religion in biology and astronomy? Who invented this Intelligent Design stuff as a wedge to teach creationism in school? There are other issues also.

I responded to a question about where were the Christian armies posed by Robert in the article. I replied that the fundamentalists were too busy imposing their own agenda to pay attention. That's my opinion and you're stuck with it.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 21, 2008 10:23 AM

My God, what's happened to my beloved Law and Order - it used to be one of the best-written, most honest and LEAST politically correct drama on TV. I remember an episode about female genital mutilation, involving an Egyptian immigrant family, very obviously Muslims - would they even dare do an episode like that now?

Posted by: angloirishslav at March 21, 2008 11:05 AM

I am making a list of all the NBC advertisers who had commercials run during that show (and that episode). Will circulate the list with explanation and appropriate links and clips to every branch of Christian in my area and beyond.
I ask everybody who can both Christian and NonChristian, theist and atheist, to do the same.

The ONLY thing the NBC Nihilists understand is MONEY. Therefore hit them where it hurts. Boycott the advertisers AND make sure (very important) to email, mail, etc the advertisers why you are boycotting them and contact groups of people and churches to do the same. I would like letters from pastors, priests etc who talk to large numbers of adherrants to write the advertisers that they are including in their talks to their people NOT to buy products from these advertisers.

I have already spoken to two BISHOPS who will circulate a memo asking that from believers to all their priests (a potential reach for 100, 000 people just in my local area) and to contact the advertisers to do the same.

When Rod Serling worked on the Twilight Zone he said the people you had to keep happy were ALWAYS the advertisers FIRST. In one episode, an american sea captain had to drink coffee but the coffee advertiser said "we dont want coffee associated with this underwater horror, have him drink tea instead or something"

AND THEY CHANGED IT TO TEA IMMEDIATELY.

TRUST ME ON THIS --ITS THE ADVERTISERS YOU GO TO--THEY COULD NOT CARE LESS FOR HOLLYWOOD'S PREACHING THEY ARE BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN SELLING THEIR PRODUCTS.

Therefore go OVER the heads of the NBC and law and order producers etc and go DIRECTLY to the advertisers.

CONTACT PASTORS, REVERENDS, PRIESTS and others to tell their people not to buy the products advertised AND to contact the advertisers directly (registered mail is the best) to inform them of what they are doing.

I have already contacted 2 bishops who have agreed to help and will contact the other 5 in the rest of the immediate region. Thats just of one denomination of one region! Contact as many as you can of every region. Look up churches in your local area of all denominations and email or mail them to do the same.

I am doing my part do yours!

LET US MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER!

http://www.motivationalmemo.com/n_uploads/13_Nov_2005/churchill1.jpg

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 21, 2008 12:47 PM

PS the resulting profit loss WILL show on their financial sales sheets. A manager of a local large grocery chain told me that ALL major advertisers keep meticulous details of how much of their products are selling. So when you are in your local Wal-Mart etc and you see one of the advertisers products --leave it! AND tell the advertisers of it.

NBC only understands one word: MONEY

So hit them where it hurts most right in the wallet!

And do it with a with a kindly smile :o)

http://www.motivationalmemo.com/n_uploads/13_Nov_2005/churchill1.jpg

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 21, 2008 12:54 PM

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 21, 2008 12:54 PM

I couldn't get through the entire episode.

Do you have the list of advertisers during that show?

Posted by: awake at March 21, 2008 12:58 PM

hi awake the two bishops I mentioned are also waiting for the list. I will post it on here on Monday because when I watched the show I watched it in a blur and dont want to implicate advertisers who are a part of it. Also a friend of mine who works for an ad agency just told me many stations have a rotation procedure. So if you are an NBC advertiser your ad may or may not show up on the show in every region --some NBC advertisers will catch the local North Dakota station showing it others the Detriot etc.
So its ALL NBC advertisers who pay to have their ads air at evening have an equal chance of showing up on that show at that hour in various regions.
I will get the advertisers in my region on Monday for you on here.(I have a friend who taped the show and will review it on sunday for you)

HOWEVER what you can do in the meantime is open the TV during the times Law and Order plays and record the advertisers AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT PLAY ON OTHER SHOWS AT NON LAW AND ORDER NIGHTS ON NBC IN EVENING TIMES since rotation means they can appear on that show AND it will give them incentive to say to NBC we will not accept your current general ad rotation schedule if you cannot guarantee our product will show up on Law and order. While other advertisers are integrated on one or two shows but thats a seperate contract and smaller list. Anyway, believe me it works.

Its already been happening actually because NBC has made the mistake of becoming extremely left wing in its other areas of programming and HAS NOW HAD TO PAY BACK MONEY TO ITS ADVERTISERS BECAUSE ITS VIEWER RATINGS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY!

here is some proof on that:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/11/plummeting-ratings-cause-nbc-give-refunds-advertisers

On any account I will post the advertisers who got my NBC broadcast region on monda Mar 24 on here. I encourage others to post on here also and email them to me at gkmidnightmagic@yahoo.com as well.

Again--the grand list of NBC advertisers is controlled by a rotation regional schedule so is different in some areas apparently. TRUST ME if we get most of them or even the main ones --the others hear about it mainly because Advertisers have a communication network to let each other know what is going on (they also have their own on line membership only info exchange forum).

Also the parent of NBC is General Electric which obviously can advertise on its own network.
GE and GE products are therefore right off the top numero uno on who to contact first.
more on monday (my list).

I encourage others to post the other adverters on here also.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 21, 2008 1:37 PM

CORRECTION:

dont want to implicate advertisers who are NOT a part of it. (ie not on the NBC rotation for that evening and not on NBC at all)

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 21, 2008 1:41 PM

the link regarding the drop above is form related to the strike --the point is to show that advertisers are the KEY to NBC and hollywood TV shows. advertisers are business people not airy left wing hollywood types with agendas. Adverstisers want to know people are going to buy their products. thats all they care about bottom line.

will get my list on here on MONDAY please post your lists too --NBC nightly advertisers and law and order adveritisers

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 21, 2008 1:47 PM

I've quoted you and linked to you here: http://consul-at-arms.blogspot.com/2008/03/re-law-and-order-shills-for-islam.html

Posted by: Consul-At-Arms at March 22, 2008 2:58 AM

It's monday and I am back for those of you interested in helping to put pressure on NBC advertisers for airing the Christian "jihad" law and order episode (christian jihad, indeed! No wonder Robert calls them shills for Islam. Law and order really are kissing Islams ass, sheeesh!)

Okay the list is below these are advertisers connected with law and order IN MY REGION. Except for GE some might not be your region. I spoke to a friend of mine and we contacted a TV station and asked them about advertisers and they gave the following info:

IF YOU FEAR MISSING ANY ADVERTISERS THAT WERE PART OF LAW AND ORDER ON THAT EPISODE --JUST RECORD THE ONES ON **ANY** EPISODE they are connected with the show and not individual episodes. SO that means when law and order next plays in your area get out a pad and paper and jot down the advertisers in your area, combine them with the one I have AND then

go to:

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/advertisers/main7.asp

WHERE THE CONTACT INFO FOR ALL ADVERTISERS FOR EVERY NETWORK IS INCLUDED!!!!!

I will only reprint the GE contact info right here since they own NBC (for the other contact info click the link above it has a complete index comprehenisive index of all advertisers on the networks)

So after you jot down your advertesiers of Law and order in your area, combine it with mine on here and email, mail to pastors especially AND ANY INTERESTED GROUP AND PEOPLE and then mail or email (or even call but I think mailing works better) the advertisers.

IN MANY CASES THE CEO OF THE COMPANY IS LISTED WITH HIS OFFICE CONTACT INFO:

Here is the GE one who are the main culprits behind the law and order nonesense:

General Electric Company

Jeff Immelt
Chairman and CEO
3135 Easton Turnpike
Fairfield, CT 06431-0001

tel #203-373-2211

----
okay here is my list:

bpoycott list

GE products
Sony
Universal Pictures
Universal Parks & Resorts
AT&T
Chase Credit Cards
Garnier
GM
Intel
ReMax Realty
Saab
Verizon
Microsoft (Windows Mobile)
MSN
VacationsToGo.com

LETS HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS THE POCKETBOOK!!!

Your friend,

The Allies Shall Win

PS:
General Electric has admitted that it has contracts in Syria and Iran for electric power plants, oil and gas, lighting, and medical equipment (that latter is humanitarian stuff not subject to sanctions and no one is citing them). GE claims that none of it is being used for military purposes by “Iranian forces” or “Syrian forces.”

…Apparently, General Electric either does not get or care that Iran has been violating international law for 30 years with impunity. Iran has engaged in proxy wars through its terrorist arm Hezbollah and through its Revolutionary Guards. It has kidnapped and killed American citizens and the citizens of its neighbors. It has provided foreign fighters, arms, and money to fight the US and Coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. It defies the international community in its pursuit of nuclear weapons. It declared war on the US — its enemy — and advocates its destruction, along with Israel…

…When we see Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calling for “death to America” and watch Iranian fast boats charging US Navy ships, we see the enemy. General Electric sees a customer in good standing

source is the ever fantastic Michelle Malkin:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/16/ge-they-bring-bad-things-to-life/

PPS in case you also want to contact local tv stations (they purchase the shows which they decide they want to air in their region thru media conventions where REPS from each show buy various series. In my area a local channel just bought the old Lost in Space rights for the next year so they are showing them all from season 1). So you can if you have the time contact stations too. however the advertisers should are their glass chin and you should strike their first because its their funding that allows a show to be produced in the first place and be around in ORDER to be rented/bought by a TV station for its line up.

Here are som NBC affiliate TV stations local:

NBC affiliates in your area:
Television
NBC Stations:
WNBC
New York
KNBC
Los Angeles
WMAQ
Chicago
WCAU
Philadelphia
KNTV
San Jose/San Francisco
KXAS
Dallas/Fort Worth
WRC
Washington
WTVJ
Miami
KNSD
San Diego
WVIT
Hartford
WNCN
Raleigh
WCMH
Columbus
WVTM
Birmingham
WJAR
Providence
Telemundo Stations:
KVEA/KWHY
Los Angeles
WNJU
New York
WSCV
Miami
KTMD
Houston
WSNS
Chicago
KXTX
Dallas/Fort Worth
KVDA
San Antonio
KSTS
San Jose/San Francisco
KDRX
Phoenix
KNSO
Fresno
KMAS
Denver
WNEU
Boston/Merrimack
KHRR
Tucson
WKAQ
Puerto Rico
NBC Universal Television Studio
NBC Universal Television Distribution
CNBC
MSNBC
Bravo
Mun2TV
Sci-Fi
Trio
USA
Film

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Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 24, 2008 10:53 AM

On a different thought not really unrelated topic (for the troops are fighting islamic terrorism and NBC law and order is helping islamic terrorists by making up fake christian jihad episodes)-> did you know that NBC refused to AIR
ads by a GOOD notforprofit advertiser BECAUSE THE ADVERTISER WANTED TO RUN ADS THANKING US TROOPS AND NBC WOULD HAVE NONE OF IT:

NBC refuses to air ads thanking troops:
http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2007/12/nbc_refuses_to_air_ads_thankin.html

Now I am a Canadian originally from Greece and I THANK GOD for the good ol' lovable USofA. How come NBC which is Made up of americans not thank their own troops ?

For the same reason they will make a show like law and order act as shills for Islam--NBC

hates its own country!

NBC HATES AMERICA.

Or at least like somebody said recently "I have not been proud of my country until now" huh? what?

Hey NBC and GENERAL ELECTRIC I will find out what you own and produce and make sure I never buy or view anything of yours again.

NBC AND GE go F*** yourselves.

The Allies Shall Win,
GOD BLESS AMERICA

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 24, 2008 10:59 AM

oh and this link:

provides ALL the contact info including phones and email and addresses for ALL the NBC affiliate from A to Z in every state

Here is the link:

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/networks/NBC_affiliatelookup.asp

here is the main one:

MAIN NBC NETWORK ADDRESS:

NBC Viewer Relations
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
(818) 840-4444

And here is the beginning of the very long list of NBC affiliates (just a sample the rest is at the page of the above link:

NBC AFFILIATES:

KNOP-TV
Mr.LewysCarlini
General Manager

,

Phone: (308) 532-2222
Fax: (308) 532-9579
knop@knoptv.com

KTUU-TV
Mr.AlvinBramstedt
General Manager
701 E Tudor Rd
Anchorage, AK
99503-7488
Phone: (907) 762-9285
Fax: (907) 563-3318
bramstedt@ktuu.com

KTVF-TV
Mr.BillWright
General Manager
3528 International St
Fairbanks, AK
99701-7382
Phone: (907) 458-1830
Fax: (907) 458-1831
billwright@clearchannel.com

KATH-TV
Mr.CharlieEllis
General Manager
1107 W 8th St
Juneau, AK
99801-1802
Phone: (907) 586-8384
Fax: (907) 586-8394
kathtv@alaska.com

KSCT-TV
Mr.DanEtulain
General Manager
520 Lake St
Sitka, AK
99835-7403
Phone: (907) 747-8200
Fax: (907) 747-8440
ksct@ak.net

WVTM-TV
Mr.GeneKirkconnell
General Manager
1732 Valley View Dr
Birmingham, AL
35209-1251
Phone: (205) 558-7300
Fax: (205) 323-3314

WAFF-TV
Ms.LeighMichal
General Manager
1414 Memorial Pkwy NW
Huntsville, AL
35801-5933
Phone: (256) 533-6397
Fax: (256) 534-4101
programming@waff.com

WPMI-TV
Ms.KellyBarber
General Manager
661 Azalea Rd
Mobile, AL
36609-1515
Phone: (251) 652-1206
Fax: (251) 602-1550
kellybarber@clearchannel.com

WSFA-TV
Mr.KenSelvaggi
General Manager
12 E Delano Ave
Montgomery, AL
36105-2200
Phone: (334) 613-8230
Fax: (334) 613-8303
kselvaggi@wsfa.com

KNWA-TV
Mr.BlakeRussell
General Manager
15 S Block Ave
Fayetteville, AR
72701-6099
Phone: (479) 684-4412
Fax: (479) 785-4011
brussell1@knwa.com

KARK-TV
Mr.RichardRogala
General Manager
1401 W Capitol Ave
Little Rock, AR
72201-2940
Phone: (501) 340-4488
Fax: (501) 375-1961
rrogala@kark.com

KNAZ-TV
Ms.MarshaSimon
General Manager
2201 N Vickey St
Flagstaff, AZ
86004-6106
Phone: (928) 526-5222
Fax: (928) 527-0022
msimon@knaztv2.com

the rest at:
http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/networks/NBC_affiliatelookup.asp

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at March 24, 2008 11:05 AM