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"New Usama bin Laden Tape Slams Palestinian Negotiations, Urges Holy War for Liberation," from the Associated Press:
CAIRO, Egypt — Pan-Arab Al-Jazeera TV on Thursday broadcast what it described as excerpts from a new audio tape by Usama bin Laden in which the Al Qaeda leader slammed Palestinian negotiations with Israel and urged holy war for the liberation of Palestine.
In the audio excerpts broadcast by the Doha, Qatar-based television, bin Laden said that "Palestine cannot be retaken by negotiations and dialogue, but with fire and iron."
Bin Laden also called on Palestinians who are unable to fight in the "land of Al-Quds" — a Muslim reference to Jerusalem — to join the Al Qaeda fight and the holy war, or jihad, in Iraq.
"The nearest field of jihad today to support our people in Palestine is the Iraqi field," bin Laden said.
"We tell our brothers in Palestine who could not join the jihad in the land of Al-Quds, to get rid of illusions of political parties and groups which are mired in trickery of the blasphemous democracy and to take their positions among the ranks of the mujahideen in Iraq," he said.
Such a Palestinian fight in Iraq should be "concentrated on and supported by all Muslims, specially from neighboring countries," bin Laden added and also called on people of Syria, Lebanon Jordan and Saudi Arabia to "help in support of their mujahedeen brothers in Iraq, which is the greatest opportunity and the biggest task." [...]
The mention of by bin Laden of the Annapolis, Maryland, summit last November was the only time reference given in the audio.
"By their support, they are considered partners to this horrible crime," bin Laden said of Arab leaders who have backed the Mideast peace talks.
"Palestine will not return to us with the negotiations by the submissive rulers, their conferences nor by demonstrations and elections," he said. "Palestine will come back to us if we awaken from our ignorance and adhere to our religion and sacrifice our lives and means to it."
The message was the first time bin Laden spoke of the Palestinian question at length.
He appeared to be seeking to merge the Palestinian cause into the wider Al Qaeda struggle.
"My nation," bin Laden addressed his followers, "You have a great opportunity to regain your freedom and get out of being a follower of this Zionist-crusade alliance and to do this, you have to free yourself from the chains of humiliation thrown on us by the agents of this alliance, the rulers of our countries."
Posted by Marisol at March 20, 2008 4:16 PM
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Osama is dead.
If you play his radio message backwards, you can hear:
"Osama is a dead man! Miss him! Miss him!"
and
"Turn me on, dead man."
Posted by: Kristopher
at March 20, 2008 4:24 PM
"My nation," bin Laden addressed his followers,
-from the tape
MY nation? Whoever is on this tape....is he seeking to become mohammed's successor or what? How long before he tells us of HIS night journey?
Posted by: PMK
at March 20, 2008 4:35 PM
If he throws in a Popeil Pocket Fisherman, I might consider converting.
Posted by: special_guest
at March 20, 2008 4:37 PM
He appeared to be seeking to merge the Palestinian cause into the wider Al Qaeda struggle.
The wider Al Qaeda struggle? Whatever could that be? Please do go on, AP.
Posted by: special_guest
at March 20, 2008 4:46 PM
Who cares? Osama is a complete farce and the MSM & Bush have spend far too much energy already focusing on this reject of the Saudi aristocracy as being our shared ‘enemy’. It's a total smoke-screen for the real threat to Western Civilization which is of course ISLAM not some desert bandit who suffers from megalomania. Bush continues make this tenuous and false connection between ‘Osama' and his Robin Hood like outfit: Al Qaeda simply because he was slapped down a year or so ago for mentioning 'Islam' in the same sentence with ‘enemy’. News of ‘Osama’ is not only trite but serves to dangerously divert attention from the real enemy which is Islam.
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at March 20, 2008 4:52 PM
"By their support, they are considered partners to this horrible crime," bin Laden said of Arab leaders who have backed the Mideast peace talks."
If they do not want peace then what do that want? Religion of ...
Posted by: Stinkyinfidel
at March 20, 2008 4:53 PM
There are the Slow Jihadists of Fatah, who want that Western Jizyah to keep flowing. Mahmoud Abbas and his most-favored-henchmen have tuition bills to pay (all those "Palestinian" sons and daughters of the warlords, going to school in the West_while the "Palestinian" children of the non-warlords are inveigled into strapping on suicide belts). And they have medical expenses, with Harley Street doctors, and French doctors, and the Mass. General or Sloan-Kettering, and suchlike. And their wives -- see Suha Arafat -- like to shop. And then those apartments on Avenue Foch, or in London, are getting awfully expensive, what with the rise in the Euro. Something to make one want to repeat for Western donors the usual mantra: "we choose peace as a strategic option." And of Olmert and Haim Ramon choose to believe it, because they are at the absolute end of their mental and emotional tethers, and no longer capable of thought, why let them.
Then there are the Fast Jihadists of Fatah, whose children do not go to school in the West, who get their medical care, when they are lucky, from those excellent Jewish doctors in Jerusalem using the most advanced techinques, in Western hospitals. Indeed, as a way to express their deep appreciation for this medical care, so often given for free, those Fast Jihadists and those who support them (in a new poll, 84% of the "Palestinian" Arabs express their delight and approval of the premediated murders of eight students in a Jerusalem yeshiva by an Arab -- a "Palestinian" --who had worked there as a driver) they try, those Fast Jihadists, to kill whatever Jews can be killed, and that includes those doctors (three years ago, a well-known Israeli doctor, well-known for tirelessly treating Arab patients, was murdered by Arab killers while on his way to, or from, work).
The Fast Jihadists don't think the boys from Fatah will cut them in, so naturally they see less need to be corruptible and corrupt, and can remain a little more adamant and pure in their fanaticism. But there is no difference in goals between Slow Jihadists and Fast Jihadists, but merely a difference in tactics and timing.
And then there is Osama Bin Laden. He's not only a Fast Jihadist, he's a Jihadist on speed. And he modelling himself on Il Duce, who made the trains run on time, and Der Fuehrer, who built those autobahnen for his subjects to speed on, Osama Bin Laden hates delay, just for the sake of pocketing a few billion from the Infidels. That's what so irks him about the Saudis and the other rich Arabs -- they could easily give up what they take in in a week, and divert it to the "Palestinians" and then the boys from Fatah wouldn't even go through the pretence of peace-processing that Osama Bin Laden finds so annoying, even if they don't really mean it, and of course they don't.
Jihad at a stately pace for Mahmoud Abbas, so he and his pals can smell the roses for a while.
Jihad promptly, by those hurried harried souls from Hamas, who like the smell of war, and whose children are not all abraod, and who don't have, not yet, those villas that the Fatah warlords have.
Jihad now, at once, using qitaal, combat, and every other means, prontissimo, rapidissiimo, for the man in the cave, somewhere near Waziristan, who just can't wait, who is jumping up and down with impatience, and who, because he limits himself to What Would Muhammad Do, focusses exclusively on the instrument that Muhammad used almost exclusively -- combat or qitaal, which to Bin Laden and other Muslims now includes what we Infidels have no trouble regarding as "terrorism" but they interpret as a bold and brave act of war where the chances of survival, while slim, are not non-existent, and the goal in any case is not to kill oneself -- that's merely a by-product -- but to kill Infidels, so that, in this Muslim view, this is not "suicide" and need not be condemned, but can instead be applauded, admired, emulated.
Since Muhammad didn't use the Money Weapon, didn't really have well-financed campaigns of Da'wa (though Da'wa was obviously part of his early effort, before the conquests), and demographic conquest (the most important weapon in Western Europe today), Bin Laden can't quite focus on that. He wants to be thought of, quite understandably, as emulating the Model of Conduct, uswa hasana, the Perfect Man, al-insan al-kamil. And to his question What Would Muhammad Do? we all know the answer: he would do what Osama Bin Laden is reiterating, in this latest tape, to do: attack, by "fire and iron."
Someone needs to remind him about Hudaibiyya, and to tell him that Mahmoud Abbas is doing just fine, with his own wiles and smiles.
Perhaps Mahmoud Abbas will do it himself, in what the reports in the scientific literature like to call "Private Communication."
Posted by: Hugh
at March 20, 2008 5:00 PM
Yah yah yah ... rivers of blood, blah blah ... whatever. Jihadists will kill us for just not being Muslim ... ooops, more correctly, for just not being the right kind of blood thirsty Muslim. Whether we offend them not, we are to die, so along with Geert Wilders let the offending begin!
When Osama Bin Laden and his ilk can demonstrate the their religion can produce little more than rage and frustration then perhaps I'll listen.
Until then, I am still convinced that Islam produces little more than rage, frustration, and not much more for himself and his co-religionists. Even today, if it was not for the Chinese Christians in Indonesia, even this model Islam country would be a shadow of what it is.
We in the West may be prone to decadence but Islam seems only to produce violent depravity. Just look at what the Iraqis did with the freedom that the USA bought for them. I'd be embarrassed to be a Muslim these days. I feel sorry for non-violent Muslims who think that their religion actually is a good one.
We in the West might have problems, but the good we do in the world and for human dignity is a million times more than what comes out of Islamic societies. Without oil, Muslim countries would be nothing.
Hey, some guy in the Southern US says he has genetically modified bacteria which can turn any organic matter into oil! If this is true, the Middle East becomes as significant as the Congo!
Posted by: James Martel
at March 20, 2008 5:21 PM
OBL states: "You have a great opportunity to regain your freedom and get out of being a follower of this Zionist-crusade alliance and to do this, you have to free yourself from the chains of humiliation thrown on us by the agents of this alliance, the rulers of our countries."
Freedom?
Free yourself?
All this talk about "freedom from chains and humiliation" by OBL from the most oppressive "religion" on earth. What a load of crock from this crackpot.
at March 20, 2008 5:26 PM
The White House keeps reiterating that we have to fight them there, or we will be fighting them here. Osama encourages his followers to go to Iraq and fight America there. Doesn't this seem just a little too convenient?
Posted by: Mick_n_NYC
at March 20, 2008 7:00 PM
descendantofacrusader said
Who cares? Osama is a complete farce...
While I share your view that Osama is not the be-all-end-all of the jihad, and he's only one player amongst many, I still have 3000+ reasons to care about Osama. We should focus on protecting our borders, educating the public about Islam, and setting sane immigration policy,
BUT
I want to see Osama flogged, branded, drawn and quartered. I want to see him dropped from a helicopter at the site of the WTC. Seriously.
Posted by: special_guest
at March 20, 2008 8:15 PM
"...mired in trickery of the blasphemous democracy..." (OBL)
W-A-I-T a minute!
Aren't we spending billions of shrinking dollars and thousands of priceless lives so those "ordinary moms and dads" in Iraq and Afghanistan can have democracy? And it turns out to be BLASPHEMOUS??
I can't keep up.
RSI
Posted by: RedStateInfidel
at March 20, 2008 8:32 PM
"Palestine will come back to us if we awaken from our ignorance and adhere to our religion and sacrifice our lives and means to it."
Not if Pope Benedict XVI, as leader of the Zionist Cartoon Crusade, has anything to say about it!
Posted by: Lex
at March 20, 2008 8:55 PM
How nice of Osama to demand JDAM services for so many. Truly a man of moderation. Is this what pases for Peaceful, pious behavior of the most faithful?
Posted by: flowerknife_us
at March 20, 2008 9:20 PM
Speaking for myself..OBL is just a Saudi piece of shit who doesn't know which shoulder to fire his AK74 on and can't hit anything when he does. When he goes outside to urinate he will always be looking up and he bloody well should be. Who gives a rats ass what he says.
Posted by: pismopal
at March 20, 2008 9:31 PM
special_guest said:
“I still have 3000+ reasons to care about Osama.”…. “I want to see Osama flogged, branded, drawn and quartered.”
I too want to see O.B.L. receive his due but my initial belief still holds sadly true: that he is a diversion from the real enemy, Islam, and that this ‘osamaophobia’ is often a pathetic excuse for ignoring the real danger by a, still as yet, willfully naive majority caught up in a ballet of ostrich calisthenics.
at March 20, 2008 9:49 PM
be aware that the islamonazis intend on doing harm to Europe and America.....
9/11 was the wake up call and the world has gone back asleep.........
when the next bomb clouds and mushroom clouds rise over Europe and America, the world will suffer a fire storm that can not be imagined........ blood will run in the street...... across the world........
nations will disappear in ash..........
it is coming for our all seeing leaders can not see and realize the threat the we face and take the necessary action to stop this threat......
how many millions of terrorists were allowed and still allowed to immigrate into our societies and have walked across our borders.........
what will you do when your nation is nuked???
have you prepared???
are you armed???
are you ready???
for it is coming.....
at March 20, 2008 10:59 PM
what will you do when your nation is nuked???
Posted by: ???
I will get mad, then go to the mall.
You see ???, when the going gets tough, the tough go shopping. America will never give up shopping, nukes or no nukes...
at March 20, 2008 11:12 PM
Anyone notice that Osama has transformed into a muslim woman? Can't go outside, stuck in a hellhole, frustrated that he is not being listened to, unable to stop predator drones from immolating his buddies. Excellent.
As far as throwing him out of a helicopter at 9-11 site....instead, how about having a Priest or Rabbi go through the motions to convert him to Christianity/Judaism, a bris, then post his image online wearing a yarmulka/cross.
Maybe the best punishment would be to keep him alive as a "Matrix-Like" human battery. Wounded people need plasma and blood products, as well as skin grafts, organ donations, corneas, bone marrow, etc. Make sure he beleives his blood is helping sick jewish people, apostates, homosexuals or Israelis/Americans.
Or chuck him into the Florida everglades with raw chickens tied around his neck.
Posted by: No More Ham, Ed
at March 20, 2008 11:29 PM
"...when the going gets tough, the tough go shopping"....LOL!!!
Posted by: champ
at March 20, 2008 11:52 PM
No More Ham, Ed: Anyone notice that Osama has transformed into a muslim woman?
Maybe he...she, was a woman all along...boy have we been had...No wonder we can't catch 'him'...
Posted by: duh_swami
at March 20, 2008 11:54 PM
On second thought, cancel that, no woman could be
'that' ugly...
at March 20, 2008 11:55 PM
Somebody should animate a cartoon of his audiotapes.
Just to mess with his dead head.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at March 21, 2008 12:00 AM
Irony from a Twitter feed:
1) "Telling the Palestinians to go to Iraq, where they're about as welcome as pork chops at the iftar. I'm so evil. http://tinyurl.com/yoa7mf "
http://twitter.com/alqaeda/statuses/774613293
2) "You think I'm joking about the Palestinians? Seriously, the Iraqis hate them. Israelis would get a warmer welcome. http://tinyurl.com/2a6x4p
http://twitter.com/alqaeda/statuses/774617387
Posted by: Peacemaker18
at March 21, 2008 1:52 AM
Where Is Bin Laden?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/silverbeam/CSM%20Blog/WhereIsBinLaden.jpg
Posted by: champ
at March 21, 2008 2:15 AM
When is he going to put out a tape on how he gets his whites so white? Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen
at March 21, 2008 2:19 AM
Top 10 ways to annoy Osama bin Laden:
10) Order him ten Domino's pizzas with extra ham topping.
9) Ask him if he provides his employees with a 401K plan.
8) Ask whether the Taliban is hoping to be bombed ahead into the Stone Age, or perhaps the Iron Age if enough shell casings survive.
7)Explain that America is a land of freedom and opportunity, filled with people of every race, religion, and background, including millions of women strong enough to knock the crap out of him.
6) Ask him if he's pursuing the Lesser Jihad, the Greater Jihad, or the "Completely Whacked Out of his Freaking Gourd" Jihad.
5) Check to see if Saddam is on his speed-dial list.
4) Warn him that you're "in a New York state of mind."
3) Take pictures of all his wives and post them on www.AmIhotOrNot.com
2) Play a game of Monopoly with him. Make him play the thimble. See if he charges interest. Claim that his properties are your "holy lands" and blow up his hotels.
1) When you leave, wave and say, "Shalom!"
at March 21, 2008 2:54 AM
Now, really! I cannot believe this man is still alive! I won't believe it.
After reading how these people live in the Looming Tower, I just can't believe he can survive that type of existence.
Posted by: Kay
at March 21, 2008 3:00 AM
The more they attack "with fire and iron" the better for us.
The more they do it the less the liberals can hold us back.
Posted by: Allah Schmallah
at March 21, 2008 3:05 AM
I think bin Laden should take revenge for the Motoons by drawing something else. That'd be nice.
Posted by: Henrik
at March 21, 2008 5:44 AM
I still think Osama bin Forgotten is dead.
Posted by: tanstaafl
at March 21, 2008 8:09 AM
In the picture above, he looks like a propped up corpse. Weekend at Bin Laden's. The latest video only has a still picture, and the voice seems quite different to my untrained ear. Have the tapes been authenticated by voice print technology?
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at March 21, 2008 8:17 AM
Allah Schmallah's right. If they drop the "peace" negotiations, then maybe Israel will fight them like they should've all along; i.e., crush them until they unconditionally surrender.
Posted by: JeffS
at March 21, 2008 9:51 AM
A friend in need is a friend indeed!
After capturing Iraq; United States is in occupation of Afghanistan out there to catch Osama & Co and supposedly, US hold the full command of that country.
But Osama and his top commanders are still out of reach for last many years. They are living there and doing their businesses very successfully in the same country, the way they want.
Is it not very surprising?
Yes; of course! It is.
But- we don’t want to catch them!
Why we will not be catching them?
Well, I have to tell you a… little story:
Once there was a conference going on, of 'police heads' of different countries.
The on going discussion was that how early the thugs can be caught by police in their respective countries?
Country ‘A’ said that they can get hold of the culprit, after three days of the incident.
‘B’ said; well they can do it with in one day.
And when the turn of ‘C’ came, he said; catching of thugs, well no problem. We will know this plan, three days earlier… before the incident happens.
How come – asked every body?
Reply was; ‘Because the theft… we carry out our selves’.
May there, no harm comes to Osama. He is our best loyal friend. Carrying out, all the good jobs for us! Only we made him sit out there, for a specific purpose!
Who can be our better abettor, better henchmen than Osama & Co? Always ready to fix our, self created predicaments for us by sending a simple audio or video tape rhetoric, in advance, and with the input that we want.
Have they ever been late or disappointed us in this regard? No never.
A friend in need is a friend indeed!
Don’t be surprised. This is the way, the way it is.
--------------------------------------
Love for all, Hatred for none
at March 21, 2008 2:09 PM
A Khokar
So, Osama is our "better abettor?" How has Osama abetted us, lately?
Why would our government go to the trouble to manipulate Osama, hidden somewhere in Afghanistan, for its own purposes, when it could simply have created him with some computer animation wizardry and planted video and audio recordings?
Or, has our government planted you, to distract us from such speculations? Are you computer-generated?
Wheels within wheels.
Posted by: RedStateInfidel
at March 21, 2008 5:03 PM
If you want classic examples of what Our Hugh calls the 'nonsense and lies' that proliferate within the Islamosphere, and which Martha Gellhorn called 'mad hattery', ladies and gentlemen, look no further than the postings of ' A Khokar'.
Very often, all he seems able to do, by way of contribution to the discussion, is to put forward lunatic conspiracy theories, each more bizarre and nonsensical than the one before it. (Many other avowed Muslims who have visited this comments floor, have also shown themselves, sometimes at once, sometimes only after a little while, to be wild-eyed Conspiracy Theorists).
To paraphrase Hilaire Belloc: "Mohammed told such Dreadful Lies/ It made one Gasp and Stretch One's Eyes"...and one could say the same of far, far too many of Mohammed's slavish imitators.
Madhattery, my friends. Mohammedan madhattery.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at March 24, 2008 11:58 PM
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