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Remember Nadir Ahmed? He was the subject of my post entitled "Why Can't Muslims Debate?"
From Alpha & Omega Ministries (thanks to PRCalDude):
I went to Norfolk Virginia to attend the debate between Dr. White and Nadir Ahmed on the topic, "Can We Trust What the New Testament Says about Jesus and the Gospel?" Mr. Ahmed was thoroughly unprofessional, acted completely unprepared, and had absolutely no ability to either present or defend any of his assertions in any coherent or persuasive fashion. In many instances throughout the interaction, Mr. Ahmed acted with belligerence and rudeness to Dr. White, the moderators, and the audience.I would probably not be wrong in stating that even the Muslims present were embarrassed by his presentation. In fact, during the questions and answers segment, the Muslims that had the opportunity to comment expressed disapproval in Mr. Ahmed's presentation and behavior. [...]
It became obvious very quickly that Mr. Ahmed had no credentials or ability to call himself an apologist, nor should he have been given the opportunity to a moderated public debate.
Posted by Robert at March 24, 2008 3:40 PM
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Nadir Ahmed is a fool. No doubt the fool himself declared victory after the debate, irrespective of the reality of the events that occurred.
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at March 24, 2008 4:18 PM
But it seems that JW never presented THE debate with Nadir Ahmed? About whether Islam is a religion of peace or of terrorism?
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008/01/sam-shamoun-vs-nadir-ahmed-is-islam.html
Posted by: ajm at March 24, 2008 4:19 PM
I thought you'd get a kick outta that. There's even more on White's blog.
Posted by: PRCalDude at March 24, 2008 4:22 PM
Does Nadir know Greek, has he read the Hebrew Bible in the original and the New Testament in Greek?
I once was in a debate with a Muslim and when he told me that the English language was derived from Arabic, I realized that he was an ignorant a-hole and stopped debating him.
Told him to go and take lessons in English phonology and morphology and compare it to Arabic phonology and morphology.
He obviously didn't know what I was talking about and said that it was a pack of infidel lies.
So much for talking to these a-holes.
Posted by: scribe10 at March 24, 2008 5:58 PM
Nadir Ahmed:
How to put to shame the shameless?
By Ali Sina
2005/08/27
Nadir Ahmed is the name of a Muslim cyber idiot, a lunatic nutcase with no scholarly background. Nadir Ahmed's knowledge of Islam is zilch and his understanding of logic rates even lower. This pretender aspires to become famous by trying to debate with famous personalities with critical views about Islam. He challenges respectable scholars like Dr. Murray, Sam Shamoun, Robert Spencer to debate with him and while he is defeated logically, Nadir Ahmed insults his opponents until they realize he is just a loony and leave him. Then he edits those debates and publishes them in his site claiming victory.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/508271302.htm
at March 24, 2008 6:57 PM
>>About whether Islam is a religion of peace or of terrorism? --posted above.
That's easy - Terrorism. As shown in both the Koran and in Daily Islamic Terrorist Events.
at March 24, 2008 7:07 PM
Nadir Ahmed is the name of a Muslim cyber idiot, a lunatic nutcase with no scholarly background.
Lol. Some Pakistani village is missing its idiot!
Posted by: PRCalDude at March 24, 2008 7:15 PM
Islam does not want to "debate", it wants to intimidate.
The infidel dog has nothing to say to any true believer in the "perfect" Koran.
Only how best to silence their critics matters to the devoted Muslim expansionist.
If a pistol and two butcher knives will do the trick (this tactic worked to geld the entire country of The Netherlands with only one gaudily-slaughtered public corpse), it is a cheap price for such a great victory.
If it takes covert armies of Fifth Column apologists- a mass of harassing and colonizing drones- issuing from the Saudi-sponsored hive, then it'll cost the Islamic imperialistic movement a little more.
The end sought is the same: submissive, silent infidels.
Not out-debated, but terrorized into mute paralysis.
It's a plan that is working pretty well in the Europe and Canada and America and even Down Under: prey on the naivete and lack of instinctual strength of the self-divided, self-loathing class in the West.
And move millions of faithful in among the foolish "crusaders" to expand the "money drain" (mooching off the social sytstems of the non-Muslims) and "legalistic" (demanding special treatment for Muslims) soft jihad.
Then wait and catch their falling states, as the Ummah dominates.
No counter-argument will stop this.
Only understanding Islam's aim.
Posted by: profitsbeard at March 24, 2008 7:21 PM
Never argue with a fool. From a distance, you can't tell who's who.
On the other hand, we can't give them a free pass either. I guess that the best outcome we can expect is by emulating Wafa Sultan - debate in a calm, rational voice until they lapse into incoherence.
Posted by: jay at March 24, 2008 10:27 PM
Doesn't sound much different from when Nadir debated (if you can call it that) Sam Shamoun here in So Cal. I was at that debate and I felt pity on all the Muslims in the audience at the poor excuse of an apologist representing their views. Nadir needs just to be ignored; he will go away eventually, just like a nagging hemorrhoid does.
Posted by: careylj at March 24, 2008 11:59 PM
No offending hemorroids, and besides if you never experienced one you don't know if they come back or not.....trust me on this one!
"Kuffirs of the world, Unite!"
"Islam, abusing women and children since 622AD"
at March 25, 2008 9:35 PM
Very good !
Posted by: scaredfromhostel at March 27, 2008 3:48 AM
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