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Fitna Rage grows. "Muslim, UN outrage over Dutch MP's anti-Islam film," from AFP:
Muslim nations, the European Union and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Friday expressed outrage at an anti-Islam film posted on the Internet by a far-right Dutch MP. [...]Morocco's Communications Minister Khalid Naciri said Wilders was "mentally retarded".
Iran said the 17-minute film showed Westerners were waging a "vendetta" against Islam, and warned of repercussions. A Jordanian media coalition said they would take Wilders to court and launch a campaign to boycott Dutch products.
In Karachi, Pakistan's largest city, about 40 supporters of the hardline Islamist party Jamaat-i-Islami staged a protest, chanting "Death to the filmmaker".
In an interview with AFP Friday Wilders rejected any responsibility for retaliation against Dutch nationals or interests abroad.
"I hope it doesn't happen but even if it does the people who commit such acts are responsible, not me," he said....
Precisely.
Balkenende however warned that people should not draw conclusions too quickly. "We are not past it yet ... Sometimes it can take months before the true repercussions are felt," he told journalists.
Yes. Or years, once Europe is fully Islamized, while Balkenende and his ilk spent their energy muzzling those who were trying to prevent it.
Posted by Robert at March 28, 2008 7:14 PM
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Hummmmm where can I buy everything Dutch?
Posted by: mountiangirl
at March 28, 2008 7:25 PM
The only repercussions one can expect are from those too intolerant to even allow free speech. None of them have to watch the film. If they wanted to prove islam was peaceful, threatening violence is not the way to do it, but muslims are incapable of understanding this simple concept.
I'm so tired of muslims threatening violence with every little offense as though offense was worse than slaughter! Oh, wait a second, isn't that in the quran?
"Persecution is worse than slaughter." Surah 2:191
Dictionary.com:
per·se·cute / [pur-si-kyoot]
–verb (used with object), -cut·ed, -cut·ing.
1. to pursue with harassing or oppressive treatment, esp. because of religion, race, or beliefs; harass persistently.
2. to annoy or trouble persistently.
at March 28, 2008 7:30 PM
Islam is good at one thing. Intimidating westerners to cower, grovel and apologize in submission and pretend to believe Islam is peace. It's ironic all the things the Koran says against us, and not believed by us is, is in fact being applied successfully against us. Quite a feat. Who needs an army?
Posted by: Sounder
at March 28, 2008 7:31 PM
I saw the film on LiveLeak.com last night. Yes, it was grusome to watch, but we have seen it before on the nightly news. Nothing new, but it reinforces what Islam is...
Too bad about LiveLeak taking the film down due to threats against their employees. People are protesting against the violence of the film when they are doing the very thing they protest.
What a crazy world we live in and it will get worse.
When will the West wake up to this cancer of Islam?
Posted by: Gulfwar1vet
at March 28, 2008 7:33 PM
"I hope it doesn't happen but even if it does the people who commit such acts are responsible, not me," he said...."
Damn Straight. Don't blame the messenger!
Of course "free will" plays no role in Islam.
If all that occurs is truly due to the will of Allah, Allah must have green-lighted this film.
His Will Be Done!
Posted by: patagonianplato
at March 28, 2008 7:33 PM
".....chanting "Death to the filmmaker".
Just add his name to the ever-growing L O N G list of other "Death to____________" recipients.
Posted by: champ
at March 28, 2008 7:36 PM
Mentally retarded?
Haha wow, just when I thought muslims couldn't get any more immature. The Moroccan Communications Ministry must be the equivalent of the elementary school playgrounds here in the States.
Posted by: TexanStar001
at March 28, 2008 7:36 PM
Now it is important to protect and support Geert, click link "Doneer!" and donate what you can:
http://www.geertwilders.nl
Every dollar is important
Posted by: LazarOfSerbia
at March 28, 2008 7:38 PM
"When will the West wake up to this cancer of Islam?
- Is it too much to hope that Fitna's release is a milestone in the West's waking up process? We may have even turned a corner and are on the road to recovery...we'll just have to wait and see
Posted by: Rogster
at March 28, 2008 7:40 PM
Willlful mental retardation and the denying of one's basic will is a prerequisite for the followers of Islam.
Wilders certainly suffers from no such malaise.
Posted by: awake
at March 28, 2008 7:48 PM
Someone hurry up and have a reporter interview Obama and ask him about Freedom of Speech and then follow that up with 'his support and backing' of the movie Fitna and offering protection and security to those that are airing it.
Posted by: alaskan1000
at March 28, 2008 8:23 PM
http://revolution.muslimpad.com/2008/03/27/congratulations-geert-your-%e2%80%9cfitna%e2%80%9d-movie-has-created-more-mujaahideen-amongst-the-muslims/
This 1 is full of nice warm feelings to, they have so much love for everyone.
at March 28, 2008 8:32 PM
It looks like UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon will be a contender for the Dhimmi of the Year award.
Posted by: Dan The Infidel
at March 28, 2008 8:36 PM
breaking news:
this is from Wilders blog (www.wildersnews.blogspot.com)
Reacties/Reactions
Friday, March 28, 2008
Because of death threats against Geert Wilders reactions will be closed from now on
at March 28, 2008 8:54 PM
Dear friends!
As I was deeply moved by the Fitna myself, I`ve decided to translate it to russian, and make engraved subtitles.
So this is a "new" RUS version.
http://rapidshare.com/files/103171260/Fitna_RUS.avi.html
Please spread it if you have access to russian speaking communities! I think that brief understanding is not enough for such important subject.
I`ve tried to be as precise as possible, conserving the language, accents, and the mood of the english version.
I have to say, that after viewing this one over 150 times for translation and subtitles syncing purposes, I am under most positive impression on the making of the film, its quality, and composition. So I was very proud to credit my name as the translator.
Posted by: Vladzakr
at March 28, 2008 9:00 PM
Westergaard should rethink his complaint.
Posted by: Borg
at March 28, 2008 9:26 PM
Had any of the non-muslim critics actually viewed the video - they would have noted that it is almost completely muslim - muslim words, muslim speech, muslim actions and the results of each and every of these 100 percent muslim activities.
To the critics: What is so anti-islamic about it?
Of course this is only a rhetorical question as all pro-islamist-dhimmi Western critics will simply take the word of their new masters' without bothering to seek truth for themselves.
Dhimmi elites are leading us all on the path to global islmaization ...
at March 28, 2008 9:28 PM
"Muslim nations, the European Union and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Friday expressed outrage at an anti-Islam film posted on the Internet by a far-right Dutch MP. [...]"
A born and bred Muslim can almost be forgiven for his irrational response to Wilders' film. After all, he was raised in a religion that has a genius for closing down and nailing shut the human minds capacity to reason properly.
But when Westerners, born and bred in societies that value reason and the pursuit of objective truth, there is absolutely no excuse. Their conduct can only be attributed self-induced, willful ignorance.
Posted by: rational
at March 28, 2008 9:35 PM
Hi, its me again
I have a new, better link for the russian subtitled version now, cause its on premium - more chance it shall stay online.
Please moderator, if you could kindly change the link in my previous post:
http://rapidshare.com/files/103176772/Fitna_RUS.avi
Posted by: Vladzakr
at March 28, 2008 9:42 PM
Why are the Muslims protesting Mr. Wilder's film. Did he portray anything that the Muslims themselves have not said? Did he portray any act that the Muslims temselves have not committed? Just who are they trying to convince that they are the oppressed, is there any act protrayed in this film that the Muslims have condemed
Posted by: DeadRecknoning
at March 28, 2008 9:44 PM
Westergaard should rethink his complaint.
Posted by: Borg at March 28, 2008 9:26 PM
Agreed 100%. If he is looking to make a buck, shame on him. If he is looking to save his life from pious Islamists, it is too late for that.
Posted by: awake
at March 28, 2008 9:44 PM
Thank you so much for showing this.
I just wish the movie was an hour long. But it made its point well enough. Islam is not a religion, its a scheme of madness. I and others like me stand behind Mr. Wilders and will see Freedom win over. We have been fighting crazies for a long time and will crush these hell-spawn maggots too.
Any time they want a fight is ok with me.
Posted by: jFp
at March 28, 2008 10:01 PM
The movie makes the link between verses in the Quran and Islamic terrorism.
Let's go to our friend wikipedia:
Islamic terrorism (also known as Islamist terrorism or Jihadist terrorism) is religious terrorism by those whose motivations are rooted in their interpretations of Islam. This form of terrorism is an outgrowth of political conviction, which the perpetrator believes to be a religious duty, owing to a wrong interpretation of Islam.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism)
Interestingly the wiki article shows, first up, the trade centre attack.
I see little difference between wiki and fitna on that point.
The movie shows the causal chain Quran -> Interpretation by religious leaders + preaching -> Islamic terrorism.
Posted by: raven_
at March 28, 2008 10:20 PM
Well I have my copy already burned to DVD now. Thanks to Mr Wilders and the posters here who provided the links.
Posted by: payingattention
at March 28, 2008 10:28 PM
For those of you, like me, who can't get the burning questions out of your head, such as
...has he put on more weight?
...has he been crushed by paparazzi?
...is he still negotiating royalties?
I've put together the following:
Islamic Rage Boy® Merchandise
Islamic Rage Boy Sings "Infidels" (Tune of Jingle Bells)
This Week In Global Jihad With Islamic Rage Boy! (Ashura)
IRB jamming with Yusuf Islam
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/conservative-satire/tnoyf-presents-the-islamic-rage-boy-retrospective/">Islamic Rage Boy Plays The Sheraton Tel-Aviv
at March 28, 2008 10:34 PM
Congratulations on all your hard work, vladzakr!
The point we have to make, to those to whom we give copies of 'fitna' is that the examples which Wilder uses to illustrate the 'fruits' of the Quranic teachings, are not exceptional - they are typical. There are so many more examples with which he could have illustrated the outworking of those terrible texts.
Beslan was one of the all-time worst, in modern times. The jihadis' total lack of any human feeling toward the hostages, the psychopathic cruelty with which they murdered children and adults and denied water and food to thirsty, starving, terrified little ones, made me feel sick to my stomach and furiously angry, when I read about it in a detailed account of the attack and the siege which followed.
I don't know if you've read the Quran yourself. But the key to it all is the fact that Islam does not teach the Golden Rule. Instead it has one rule for Muslims and another rule for non-Muslims. Surah 48: 29 says "those who follow him [Mohammed] are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another". (The world translated as 'ruthless' by N Dawood, can also be translated as 'harsh' or 'cruel').
So: not only are Muslims explicitly forbidden, by the Quran, to befriend non-Muslims, unless they do it feigningly, for the advantage of Islam, to protect themselves or to lure people in; it is taken for granted, in this terrible verse - 48: 29 - that they will be MERCILESS, CRUEL, toward non-Muslims, and that this is quite OK.
Wilders doesn't cite 48:29 but the attitudes and actions toward non-Muslims shown in the film, certainly illustrate the line about being cruel to the Unbelievers.
Many former Muslims who are now Christians testify that what really pulled them up short when they first looked into the Bible was the command to 'love your neighbour' (i.e, the open-ended command to love, to 'do as you would be done by', even when the Other is an Outsider), and even more so, the requirement to 'love your enemy'. They say, over and over, that this shocked them because it was so unlike anything they had ever learned within Islam.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at March 28, 2008 11:05 PM
There's a dry cleaners not far from me I've never been to named "Dutch Cleaners." Not kidding.
I'll be going there from now on.
*
Stay safe from the Islamic Barbarians, Mr. Wilders. I know we're all praying for you.
Posted by: darcy
at March 28, 2008 11:07 PM
I don't feel so bad now for having a taste for Holland's beer. If only the French would give me an excuse for wandering into their wine section at Trader Joe's.
Posted by: pismopal
at March 28, 2008 11:16 PM
it looks like the only way to keep this film up despite Muslim threats that are proving exactly that the religion of peace is not a religion of peace would be to use something like torrent sharing on some of the pirate networks it would be almost impossible for Muslims and their death threats to shut the peer-to-peer sharing down its sad really that Livelink is had to pull the film because of threats to its employees into shows that there is no freedom of speech in Islam if it was not for the oil money and the oil the Middle East has in all likelihood Islam would be considered a poor joke
Posted by: crusader
at March 28, 2008 11:18 PM
"owing to a wrong interpretation of Islam."
raven_
Therein lies the ultimate differentiation. Wilders states this causal relationship as true and correct, as professed and acted upon by the Islamists themselves. Islamic obfuscationists, and non-Muslim apologists alike, both declare these sentiments and actions to be un-Islamic.
Unfortunately, both can be correct in certain instances but, personal convictions aside, no non-Muslim should ever take solace in the reality of the potential of the individual moral Islamic variety.
There is no moderate Islam, and that is what matters. And that is what Wilders and others, like Robert need to keep hammering home.
at March 28, 2008 11:36 PM
I like how Jordan - which buys literally nothing from Netherlands - has threatened to boycott Dutch products.
Posted by: Jerry Reed
at March 28, 2008 11:51 PM
We can throttle islam by seizing the oil fields of the Middle East. An impoverished enemy is a weak enemy. (How many Bedouins, mounted on camels, does it take to knock out an M-1 Tank?)
To those who say that it can't be done, I would point out that Sadaam Hussein, the Mother of All Field Marshals, seized Kuwait's oil fields - thus provoking the first Gulf War.
If Sadaam Hussein could do it, the US military could do it.
Posted by: HotSpur
at March 29, 2008 12:00 AM
I think it's too late for the Muslim Mafia (i.e. the entire "umma") to stop FITNA. It's spreading like wildfire all over the world.
And they're too arrogant to realize that the more fuss they make about it, the more people are going to want to watch it to see what all the fuss is about.
I'm doing my part. I downloaded it from LiveLeak before the Muslim Mafia threatened to break their kneecaps. I am personally copying it to every computer I come in contact with (except at my job), with a shortcut on the "all users" desktop, so that EVERYONE can see it.
If we all work at it, it won't be long till THE ENTIRE WORLD has seen FITNA!
Posted by: PersonOfTheBook
at March 29, 2008 12:04 AM
"I like how Jordan - which buys literally nothing from Netherlands - has threatened to boycott Dutch products.", Posted by: Jerry Reed
I hope they are planning on boycotting Dutch foreign aid, and while they are at it, could they also boycott US foreign aid too.
"We can throttle islam by seizing the oil fields of the Middle East. An impoverished enemy is a weak enemy.", Posted by: HotSpur
A "Manhattan" style project for the creation of new energy sources would be worth more then all the oil fields, just think of all the anti-western dictactors outside of the middle east it would throttle.
at March 29, 2008 12:07 AM
Hey payingattention
I still, being a novice at the internet (except for research) would like to know how to burn onto disc vid's from the web - any chance of instruction?
Also, it's amazing that, like Obama sitting in his "church" for TWENTY years listening to hatred, that these islamists can fake shock and horror over this film. Guess it's just 1. another excuse to cause mayhem 2. pissed that the slow jihad may be interrupted
at March 29, 2008 12:18 AM
The Westerners are showing a vendetta against islam.............. the film did not show Westerners doing the shooting or beheading.
There is, however a vendetta against the evil of islam and I for one am proud to be a part of it.
I will fight against this evil cult in any way I can.
It would have taken only a few minutes for 'Fitna' to have circled the globe.It didn't make any comment against islam because the cult does that all by itself.
Well done Geert Wilders, be careful.
at March 29, 2008 12:20 AM
".....chanting "Death to the filmmaker".
Just add his name to the ever-growing L O N G list of other "Death to____________" recipients.
Posted by Champ.
THIS IS THE KEY....good thinking "Champ". The folks at Liveleak do not realize that their lives are already in danger. Any one of them could have easily been in London when they had their terrible suicide attacks both on the Tube and the double-decker bus.
When you realize that your life is and has already been threatened, you may take a bit more meaning from Mr. Spencers' site. All of you please stay safe and arm yourself.
Posted by: No More Ham, Ed
at March 29, 2008 12:46 AM
Is it true Live Leak has removed Fitna? I read that the staff at Live Leak have been getting death threats, so Live Leak dropped the film.
Posted by: traeh
at March 29, 2008 12:54 AM
It's time for a reality check:
For those who say that Wilders' film "incites" hatred or that he is "mentally retarded", this is just plain unfair.
Consider that the movie has very little commentary from Wilders. The majority of the movie are excerpts from television and air recordings of Muslims in mosques, where we hear the hatred that they express towards the West.
How is Wilders, who puts this into a film and is merely just showing the reality, that is, things as they are right now, how is that inciting hatred?
The response from Moon and other Eurowimps shows how impotent the response is to Muslims who wish to subordinate Europeans and kill the truth-tellers, such as Wilders.
"The film equates Islam with violence. We reject that interpretation," Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said.
Isn't it funny that the Prime Minister's gutless and stupid comment doesn't matter to those Muslims who do link Islam with violence? This guy is just denying reality.
Posted by: S Perry
at March 29, 2008 1:42 AM
"I like how Jordan - which buys literally nothing from Netherlands - has threatened to boycott Dutch products."
I know right? It's like how priests threaten to not heal us mages in AV when we don't drop tables. Like anyone heals mages in the first place.
oh wait wrong message board ...
Posted by: non-croyant
at March 29, 2008 1:51 AM
Imitators of uswa hasana linked with Mumbai blasts nabbed in Indore.
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/mps-malwa-region-becoming-a-simi-stronghold/62187-3.html
The All India muslim personal law (read sharia) board has DEMANDED that Fitna be banned. One "cleric" in Agra has declared a fatwa on Geert Wilders' head. The MSM is treading very softly right now.
Posted by: arjun.sevak
at March 29, 2008 1:55 AM
Sounder,
I am a German European and I can tell you that I am not the only one who will tell you they are doing a DAMN GOOD JOB AT PISSING US THE H*LL OFF!!!
I can safely say that I speak for more than just a WHOLE LOT of Angry Germans right now!!
WE ALL want to HAVE OUR COUNTRIES BACK!!!!
Be we Dutch, German, Belgian, Français, British, Español or Swiss.. Be we Russians [Thank God they're with us ideologically-speaking] or Serbians!!!
Serbia was Germany's most fearsome and intransigent adversary in WW2.. you have NO IDEA how many Germans today RESPECT Serbia and her Will to RESIST!!
The battle lines have been re-drawn... I have known Serbians personally.. VERY cool people.. The true German People STAND WITH SERBIA!!
We DO NOT support NATO attacks against Serbia!!
We hope Serbians will accept us as their SEMYAKS in the wars ahead.
We screwed up BIG-TIME in the past following propaganda and our short-sighted "leaders".
That goes for Poles [the honorable people of Jan Sobieski] and Russiand and Czechs and Slowaks.. and many others I may fail to mention right now..
WE ALL WILL HAVE TO STAND AS ONE!!!!!!!
SCREW ISLAM!!!!
Let us be UNDIVIDED and in Freedom and in PEACE!!!
Posted by: Allah Schmallah
at March 29, 2008 2:15 AM
How exactly does one now ban a movie that's not there on DVD or theaters, but all over the internet (not just on one site)? Maybe Pakistan can bring down Youtube again (despite the 'service' tagging every copy of Fitna as adult material)?
Any country that really wants to ban the movie would have to shut down the internet.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at March 29, 2008 2:19 AM
How exactly does one now ban a movie that's not there on DVD or theaters, but all over the internet (not just on one site)? Maybe Pakistan can bring down Youtube again (despite the 'service' tagging every copy of Fitna as adult material)?
Any country that really wants to ban the movie would have to shut down the internet.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at March 29, 2008 2:20 AM
sorry for the double post
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at March 29, 2008 2:21 AM
I wonder if any Americans are aware that the EU is about to "link up" economically and culturally with 12 North African and Middle Eastern states to create Eurabia or as I call it a new Roman Empire.
There is a lot going on behind the scenes, a project worked on since 1970 and nearing completion.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/13/eu.summit.ap/index.html
Here:
"The project would involve 39 partners -- the 27-nation EU plus a dozen on the Mediterranean's southern shores, from Mauritania to Algeria, Egypt, Israel, the Palestinian Authority to Syria and Turkey."
Obviously once this is known, the attitude of European governments is more understandable.
They are selling the EU to the Arabs. Can't upset the customer.
The European population at large do not know this, they have been left out of the decision.
This is Eurabia, just as Bat Y'Or described it in her book.
So the Islamization of Europe is a foregone conclusion, nothing short of civil war can stop it. And the population here has been conditioned to be docile and accept the inevitable. Mind you the population doesn't know what is coming to them.
Read Last Days of Europe, When Europe slept, Eurabia and other books on the subject.
I believe that Europe as we knew it will be no more.
Let this be a warning.
at March 29, 2008 2:35 AM
I like how Jordan - which buys literally nothing from Netherlands - has threatened to boycott Dutch products.
Posted by: Jerry Reed
--
Yep. Imagine if Germany decided to boycott Dutch products.. not that I or we intend to..
What I am saying is.. Germans for example could very easily make up for any drop in mahometan purchases of Dutch products.. just NO Dutch water-tomatoes PLEASE!!
Spanish tomatoes ARE better.. sorry
We do like Loempias.. :-)
AND.. Mr. Geert Wilders is an ABSOLUTE HERO for ALL OF EUROPA!!!!
Posted by: Allah Schmallah
at March 29, 2008 3:42 AM
I like how Jordan - which buys literally nothing from Netherlands - has threatened to boycott Dutch products.
Posted by: Jerry Reed
--
Yep. Imagine if Germany decided to boycott Dutch products.. not that I or we intend to..
What I am saying is.. Germans for example could very easily make up for any drop in mahometan purchases of Dutch products.. just NO Dutch water-tomatoes PLEASE!!
Spanish tomatoes ARE better.. sorry
We do like Loempias.. :-)
AND.. Mr. Geert Wilders is an ABSOLUTE HERO for ALL OF EUROPA!!!!
Posted by: Allah Schmallah
at March 29, 2008 3:42 AM
Sorry.. I clicked OFF and resent ands yet this thing posts double - my sincerest apologies.
Posted by: Allah Schmallah
at March 29, 2008 3:46 AM
Infidel Pride,
It can't be done, but they are demanding it anyway. The MSM over here has gone worse. DB, the largest circulated Hindi daily, carried this piece of news on the 6th page in a very small column. The TOI has not printed anything about Fitna at all, including criticism, demands to ban, and the fatwas by the mad mullahs. Just a week back, there were major riots in Jhunjhnu and Chittorgarh, and curfew was imposed in both cities. The MSM did not publish that the people celebrating the birthday of Big mo went wild in both cities and at least in Chittorgarh, the police had to fire to control the imitators of uswa hasana. I know this because I was stuck in Rajasthan for the last two days. There are vague news about riots near Raisen, M.P., on the same day, but the MSM is not reporting it either.
at March 29, 2008 3:53 AM
Come to think of it - I'm having a Heineken!!!
:-)
Posted by: Allah Schmallah
at March 29, 2008 4:15 AM
Death to the film makers
Death to the cartoonists
Death to the artists
Death to the scientists
Death to the educationists
Death to good living
Death to reason
Death to co-operation.
Islam is just another name for morbid allergy.
Take away all. Grow a beard that's all. That sums up the dreadful religion.
Posted by: proud-hindu
at March 29, 2008 4:23 AM
"Death to the filmmaker"...
What? Death again? I thought there was already a death fatwa on Wilders. Possibly they should open the gates of Hell (again). That always puts the fear of allen into the kuffar.
nabi ZK
...sheesh...you can only kill a guy once...
Posted by: zonie kafir
at March 29, 2008 5:06 AM
The ones that are tolerant towards intolerance, become inevitably intolerant towards tolerance. And this seems to be, in a growing matter, the case among the so called European political dhimmi’s and other Islam lobbyists. Hiding there ill-faithed heads, deep in the sand of a blood shedding dessert ideology. We see our political “leaders” gradually transforming into a submissive, Islamic law obeying flock of sheep. We see them, as they rapidly diminish in the quicksand of self-islamisation. And it takes almost a "supernatural figure", someone like the illusionary Baron von Münchhausen for instance, to pull them, without mercy, on their own hair out of it.
Posted by: lucida
at March 29, 2008 5:58 AM
Lucida,
I agree with everything you said, but tolerance is BS. It's the ultimate cop out and a poor substitute for the real thing. God didn't say "Tolerate your neighbor as you tolerate yourself." Like so many fake doctrines out there nowadays, tolerance is so much drivel and the human heart can only "tolerate" so much of it before it determines to act.
You said it almost takes a supernatural figure to solve the problem of relentless Islamic intimidation. You are absolutely right, except take out the the word almost. It is no coincidence that Charles Martel, Jan Sobieski, Don Juan of Austria, King St. Louis IX, Jean Parisot de la Vallette, Richard the Lion Hearted, Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain and now Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders were and are Catholic leaders who took a stand against the world domination of Islam. That's because the fight against Islam is a supernatural fight, along with a natural one, and as Islam attempts to gobble up everything that generations of Catholics built and sacrificed for (see Europe) it will take someone of stature who recognizes what will be lost if we don't stop looking to our own selfish desires and get outside of ourselves and think about our neighbors, our children and the future.
Many times throughout history God has raised up leaders to help His people. He has done so again.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at March 29, 2008 7:22 AM
Hi I am from Perth in Western Australia. We are fighting a losing battle here with muslims, getting themself voted into local shire councils, getting themselves into state govt and federal govt depts with power and influence so that now even the police have female cops here with head hejab which is disgusting.I am too scared now to go shopping alone without my husband or one of the kids, as the muslims all look at us very nasty when they walk past us and always speak arab . I am so sick of waiting for the govt to do something about the onslaught of african and arab muslims coming here to my own area and are swamping the homeswest houses so that our own native australian and white australians etc are not given any chance for govt houseing under 6 - 7 yrs. They come in here and get on welfare all the time, straight off the plane.
I want these evil muslimes to leave and to stop our govt allowing their slime in here
the crime has gone up in our street of regular robbed houses and break ins, since certain black african muslims from sudan arrived in area and people see them walking up and down streets nowhere near they live just looking
I fear we are next after uk to go under islamic filth here, with labour in office we decent aussies have no chance to stop the multiculti madness handing over our country to others especially our resources, and the arabs buying up farms and companies
at March 29, 2008 11:21 AM
what will it take before the government of australia wakes up, the state govt of western australia needs to do something right here and now to stop any new mosques being built
the muslimes are trying to get a mosque built in swanview in midland area and its massive, yet most muslimes dont even live near. The locals as usual are ignored by local shire council members who are political correct madness and early demented from fear of offending the evil in our midst we seem to be in a nightmare of political correctness
robert and all major spokespersons for anti jihadism anti islamic islamofascism help us in western australia please....come to perth please and give talks on islam to wake up the establishment and the people how evil islam is
we locals alone are unable to do anything, the govt and local shire councils will not let us have talks on islam or community courses on islam from christianity view and compare them to islam....this is insane, truth is not allowed to be taught on islam in local catholic schools here.
at March 29, 2008 11:28 AM
I think I understand.
There's this film about the dark side of Islam.
It's a free speech thing, of course, but Europe, which is choking from the noose of liberalism, can't seem to reconcile the state of cognitive dissonance it finds itself in over terrorism on the one hand and dead gods on the other.
Religion as politics is such a nasty condition.
So we have Muslim outrage over exposing the dark side of Islam, while Muslims plot death to those who expose it. Such irony in the 21st century is sublimely ironic, don't you think?
Posted by: Senator_Lampoon
at March 29, 2008 11:39 AM
Hi, zonie kafir!
"That always puts the fear of allen into the kuffar."
You are so funny! The fear of "allen" makes me tremble too because he is one scary guy. I know you meant to say allah, but that tiny error really hit my funny bone. You're funny even when you aren't trying to be - and even when you are. :-)
Posted by: champ
at March 29, 2008 1:01 PM
supporters of the hardline Islamist party Jamaat-i-Islami staged a protest, chanting "Death to the filmmaker".they don't seem to realize that with their actions are proving the exact point of Mr. Wilder's film as folk they don't get the point and until the entire West realizes with Muslims in the Middle East we are dealing with a bunch of seventh century barbarians
Posted by: crusader
at March 29, 2008 1:27 PM
Jihadist cleric Omar Bakri: Fitna "could be a film by the Mujahideen" Therefore, I say "screw em'".
Posted by: Alaskan
at March 29, 2008 1:48 PM
Aaaaaaaaah, sheer bliss...settling down to watch Fitna with a nice slice of tasty Edam.
Dutch is good :)
Posted by: DukeOrange
at March 29, 2008 5:22 PM
kellykuffar -
don't give up! Donate to this website; donate to Wilders' campaign fund; if you're a Christian, donate to Bishop Patrick Sookhdeo's 'Barnabas Fund' which supports persecuted Christians in Muslim lands, or to Father Zakaria Botros' tv program which challenges Islam via satellite TV (see dhimmiwatch for a big article about him). And - you and other concerned local citizens, take a walk around the site proposed for the mosque, and PRAY.
(Also: you speak of black Muslims from the Sudan; but among the Sudanese refugees there are also some genuine Christians, who can tell awful stories of what it is like to be on the receiving end of a full-on Jihad - try and see if the Anglicans or Catholics can put you in touch with some Sudanese Christians to join your campaign. If they could be videoed giving their testimony - about children kidnapped, rapes, burning of churches, killing of priests, murdering of family members by jihadis, etc. - that could be very powerful. I say this because in my church we have two families of very devout Christian Anglican Sudanese refugees - they have been to hell and back).
Have you thought of linking up with Hindu Indian immigrants? Many of those have BAAAD memories of Muslim behaviour toward non-Muslims, back home in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Malaysia: they too can 'tell it like it is' and give due warning.
Have you downloaded 'fitna' off the internet? We downloaded it, saved to hard disc, and can now make copies ad infinitum to give away.
You could ask Mr Spencer to put you in touch with another poster at this site - 'davegreybeard' - who has produced some tasteful and accurate information leaflets about Islam. You could obtain a set, add a free cd copy of 'fitna', and slip it into letterboxes up and down your neighbourhood.
Do the same with your local MPs, state and federal - and those who wannabe. Or take the plunge and buy copies of either 'The Truth About Muhammad' or 'PIG to Islam and the Crusades', and personally present them to your city councillor, your sitting state mp (and the opposition guy who will be after his/ her seat at the next election), and your federal mp (and his/ her 'shadow').
Remember: Cardinal George Pell has got Islam's number - and Benedict XVI is visiting Australia this year, so if he comes up in conversation, raise the topic of 'Pope Rage' (the Muslim fury over his citation of Byzantine critique of Islam) and also the topic of the very public conversion, from Islam to Christianity, of Magdi Cristiano Allam, this Easter. Benedict baptised Magdi Cristiano at St Peter's in Rome.
Magdi Cristiano's letter explaining his journey out of Islam is beautiful to read, very moving, and contains a couple of paragraphs that are great to quote as a description of what Islam does to people. If you know any Catholics, a printout of Magdi's letter - hunt around on this very website, there's a link on dhimmiwatch to the English translation might come in handy.
The Anglicans may appear clueless, but not all of them - Bishop Patrick Sookhdeo and also Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali have both visited, or are visiting, Australia, and are doing their best to educate their co-religionists.
Try, if you can, to link up with the small Jewish community who may well be finding that with the increase in Muslims there has been an increase in acts of hate & aggression toward Jews. Many Australian Jews, too, are completely clueless - but try to get them looking at Bat Yeor, Andrew Bostom, Phyllis Chesler's 'the new anti-semitism'.
If you are a Christian - pray! Here's a magnificent Jewish prayer which I read in one of Chaim Potok's novels [My Name is Asher Lev]: "In the Name of the Lord, the God of Israel: may Michael be at my right hand, Gabriel at my left, before me Uriel, behind me Raphael, and above my head the divine Presence of God". I, a Christian, would have no hesitation in praying that prayer, as well as the Lord's Prayer, before going out to challenge dhimmitude and Jihad.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at March 29, 2008 11:14 PM


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