Would they please boycott the Dutch social security system as well.

And presumably, the Dutch should stop all overseas aid to any muslim country.

Posted by: Celsius at March 29, 2008 5:52 AM

"He said such a boycott could result in The Netherlands having to 'close shop', as Muslims made up the wealthiest portion of the world’s population and were also the biggest importers."

Wealthiest portion of the world's population, eh? That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Biggest importers? This could be true, since Islamic countries produce very little themselves. Just how much cheese and chocolate and wooden shoes does the Islamic world import from the Dutch, anyway?

Posted by: Eastview at March 29, 2008 6:05 AM

And they (all of them, the EU, UN, ...) condemn Fitna for being divisive...?

I agree with Celsius, but I think we should put on the same collective glasses that they do: Stop all aid from *any* Civlized country, not just Holland, to any Muslim country, not just Malaysia!

And, obviously, stop immigration as well.

Posted by: Vagn Henning at March 29, 2008 6:06 AM

"Shut Shop" haaha does he not not know the only wealth controlled by moslems in The Netherlands is the social security system?? Not many moslems in The Netherlands aspired to any real financial power above taxi driving. As for global wealth he need not count on the Arabs risking their oil money invested in the non-islamic world.

Better the free world, (thats near on 80% of global population who refute islam) boycott Malaysia and its products because of Malaysia's islamic policies and racists attitudes.

Aside from that, Does he state the koran quotes from Fitna are not in his koran in bahassa Malay. Everybody has a complaint about offense but no claim of misquote apparently..

Posted by: sri at March 29, 2008 6:09 AM

Mahartir is the so called statesman, and ex PM of Malaysia who got up and gave that appalling speech in 2003 at the OIC Conference of the OIC membership and said that the Jews fight their wars by proxy and are descendants of pigs and monkies etc etc.The usual obnoxious drivel from the muzzoes.

This is the man who was PM of a country that was and is still knocking over Hindu temples and restricting christian rights of worship whilst giving the bumi brotherhood free kicks in everything, and distorting the Tax system in a typical Jizya manner.

I wouldnt worry too much about the Malaysians --they are going to implode.

Posted by: rastadan at March 29, 2008 6:38 AM

Yep, that is a better idea SRI. We should all boycot Malaysian products, and including not going there for holidays etc. Its a shit hole anyway.

Posted by: rastadan at March 29, 2008 6:44 AM

I say lets support the Dutch. I have no idea what they produce, but now is the time to get on line and find something to buy from them. While at the same time do as SRI posted, boycott all the muslim countries. Of course with the amount of oil being pushed out of Saudi that will be difficult because Saudi is one of the biggest money buckets for all the muslim world. Of course it is western money the Saudis are using. But I buy my gas at Sunoco, because most of the research I have seen says that Sunoco does not import middle eastern oil or very little there of. So other than gas, I can not think of much else to boycott other than items made in Pakistan or Malaysia, unless of course you import camel dung or carpets.

Posted by: TemplarKnight at March 29, 2008 6:54 AM

I say lets support the Dutch. I have no idea what they produce, but now is the time to get on line and find something to buy from them. While at the same time do as SRI posted, boycott all the muslim countries. Of course with the amount of oil being pushed out of Saudi that will be difficult because Saudi is one of the biggest money buckets for all the muslim world. Of course it is western money the Saudis are using. But I buy my gas at Sunoco, because most of the research I have seen says that Sunoco does not import middle eastern oil or very little there of. So other than gas, I can not think of much else to boycott other than items made in Pakistan or Malaysia, unless of course you import camel dung or carpets.

Posted by: TemplarKnight at March 29, 2008 6:56 AM

I say lets support the Dutch. I have no idea what they produce, but now is the time to get on line and find something to buy from them. While at the same time do as SRI posted, boycott all the muslim countries. Of course with the amount of oil being pushed out of Saudi that will be difficult because Saudi is one of the biggest money buckets for all the muslim world. Of course it is western money the Saudis are using. But I buy my gas at Sunoco, because most of the research I have seen says that Sunoco does not import middle eastern oil or very little there of. So other than gas, I can not think of much else to boycott other than items made in Pakistan or Malaysia, unless of course you import camel dung or carpets.

Posted by: TemplarKnight at March 29, 2008 6:57 AM

Sorry for the multi posts, I kept trying to post and got errors and suddenly all three went through.

Posted by: TemplarKnight at March 29, 2008 6:58 AM

I know they make excellent Gouda cheese. They also make good produce, but I doubt that'll be available in the States.

Apart from that, their major export appears to be disowned, ostracized Islam critics ;-)

I'm all for boycotting all OIC countries, but I'm not so sure about supporting Holland. The Dutch government and media called this on themselves by impeding Wilders' free speech rights and forcing him to look to an international distributor for his movie, thereby making a local Dutch political statement the focus of international attention, so I think some kind of mild scolding would only be fair. I'm sure their exports to Malaysia are marginal anyway.

Posted by: Vagn Henning at March 29, 2008 7:13 AM

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gO-MERVjEHYvKGt6laqxc9G8MrLA

Malaysia's Mahathir says Muslims 'annoyed' by Dutch film

2 hours ago

KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) — Malaysia's former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad Saturday condemned the decision by a far-right Dutch lawmaker to post an anti-Islam film online.

"We are very annoyed about this video. This is the result of misunderstanding of Islam, and of course there is some political motive behind it," he said.

"If Muslims unite, it will be easy to take action. If we boycott Dutch products, they will have to close down their businesses," he told reporters after officiating at an Islamic gathering.

"If the world's 1.3 billion Muslims unite and say they won't buy, then it (the boycott) will be effective," he said.

The film "Fitna" ("Discord" in Arabic), featuring violent imagery of extremist attacks which it linked to verses from the Koran, was posted on the British-based website liveleak.com on Thursday.

Malaysia's foreign ministry Saturday slammed Geet Wilders for producing the film.

"Portraying Islam as a religion advocating extremism is not only misleading and erroneous but also blatant disregard and utter disrespect for Islam and the sensitiveness of the Muslim world," it said in a statement.

Malaysia is a multi-racial country with a majority Muslim population.

Neighbouring Singapore also condemned the film Saturday, deputy prime minister Wong Kan Seng calling it offensive to Muslims.

"Freedom of expression does not give anyone the licence to insult another's religion or race," he said in a statement, adding he was confident Singaporeans would react to the film rationally.

Liveleak.com said Friday it had pulled down the video, which can still be seen on other websites, including youtube.com, following threats to staff and protests from Muslims groups and the head of the UN.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Friday joined Muslim nations in expressing outrage over the film, calling it offensive.

Iran, Bangladesh and Indonesia, a former Dutch colony, had objected to the posting of the film.

"Freedom of expression does not give anyone the licence to insult another's religion or race".

In the free world it does, and we want to keep it that way.

Say no to Jihad and Islamic imperialism.

Posted by: Dsinc at March 29, 2008 7:27 AM

Time for some Havarti with a Carlsberg, boys!

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at March 29, 2008 7:32 AM

Australians can boycott Malaysian products in an act of solidarity with the Dutch. In our supermarkets I have seen food products from Malaysia (e.g. various sorts of Asian condiments, noodles and so on), and lots of paper products such as stationery - writing pads marked 'made in Malaysia' (from pulped rainforest timber...); I think they also sell other wood products such as furniture.

So: if Mahathir wants to boycott the Dutch because of Wilders, then to back up Wilders, non-dhimmi Australians will carefully refuse to buy anything Made in Malaysia. Why put ANYTHING in the pockets of those parasitical Muslims who are taking a rake-off from what industrious Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Confucians are producing?

And no Australian should be spending money holidaying in Malaysia. Why go someplace where the Morality Police will be snooping about hoping to catch unrelated men and women committing Unlawful Proximity? Go to Singapore instead, or the Philippines (majority-Christian) or visit some of our friendly non-Muslim Pacific neighbours.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at March 29, 2008 7:33 AM

Scratch Singapore - I just reread one of the news items above. Pity - up till now they weren't showing much sign of kowtowing to the Muslims.

I don't know how much stuff Australia imports from the Netherlands but I will certainly have a look around, next time I'm in the supermarket.

(Perhaps polite letters from local jihadwatchers, to the Dutch Ambassador in, for example, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA, congratulating the Netherlands on having such brave citizens as Geert Wilders and the late Theo Van Gogh, and praising the accuracy of Wilders' film, may possibly wake them up a little and encourage them to stiffen their spines.)

Similar appreciative letters to the Danes expressing admiration for Mr Westergaard et al might also help them keep on keeping on.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at March 29, 2008 7:48 AM

Ok, no more wooden shoes for muslims...ouch that hurts...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 29, 2008 7:50 AM

According to this site, in 2004 the Netherlands imported almost 9X as much stuff from Malaysia as it exported to Malaysia, so if Mahathir were to get his way and the Dutch reciprocated, the Dutch would easily win the pissing contest.

BTW, as recently as 2005, Malaysia was in negotiations to buy some Dutch made submarines, no doubt for conducting defensive jihad against infidel submariners. (They're everywhere!)

Posted by: Lex at March 29, 2008 7:52 AM

I have been boycotting Malaysian products for years, ever since Mahatir called us all here in Australia "convicts".

That bloke never learned to put his brain into gear before opening his mouth.

Mahatir is ignorant trash.

Posted by: payingattention at March 29, 2008 7:55 AM

Shun the a "Made in Malaysia" label next time you buy a pair of sneakers, a pair of jeans, a backpack, or some computer hardware.

I don't get it. Why is it OK for this monkey to generalize and incite discrimination against all Dutch? WWhy hasn't Ban Ki Moon condemned this? Apart from his being a plain asshole, of course?

Posted by: Vagn Henning at March 29, 2008 8:31 AM

I am all for helping the Dutch, if I knew what companies and products to buy. (it would be nice if some Dutch person would help us out here)

I have seen "made in Malaysia" labels on some cheap shoddy clothes, but I didnt purchase them BECAUSE they were cheap shoddy clothes. In the future I will continue to NOT purchase them as a boycott.

But, as has been mentioned many times before, Moslem countries DONT PRODUCE ANYTHING! The wealth of any of these countries is predominantly through oil revenue. And that revenue is only generated from past, present, and future activity of Western oil companies.

So the only thing we can really do is continue to pressure our government and political candidates to wean our society OFF fossil fuel and dependency on countries whose religion/ideology is intent on destroying us.

I said this back in the late 70s during the original gas crisis. But here it is now 30 years later, and nothing serious has been done to remove our dependency from Moslem oil.

Posted by: StephenDvd at March 29, 2008 8:34 AM

However, in order to be effective, all 1.3 billion Muslims in the world must unite in the boycott and put the interest of Islam and Muslims over that of individual needs.

Yes, and the rest of the world must unite in supporting the Dutch.

Posted by: Briars at March 29, 2008 8:48 AM

Great! More Delft for the rest of us!

I need a new tureen.

With all the excess inventory now available, maybe it'll go on sale.

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 29, 2008 9:10 AM

Yes boycott - especially you muslims living in the Netherlands.

In fact don't spend another euro on anything Dutch (or EU, or non-muslim) except for first available one-way boat, car, train, airplane out of there.

Other than by a very small minority of dhimmi-multi-culti-nincompoop-elites, you are not welcome in the West any longer.

Dutch- fellow Westerners (and all Western nations) - the lesson is very clear now. A grave error has been made (though forced upon us by "elite-progressives"), so do now roll up your "muslims-welcome mats". If you must throw money at this problem - the ingrate muslims -one last time- do it in the form of one-way transport out of your nation.

And all dhimmis should be encouraged to go with them.

Posted by: TINBH at March 29, 2008 9:15 AM

"And all dhimmis should be encouraged to go with them."

What does that leave, maybe 20% to 30%?

Posted by: patagonianplato at March 29, 2008 9:29 AM

“We must not be afraid of losing trade with them. If we do, then we won’t be thinking as Muslims, but more for our own self intersts,” he told reporters after opening the Malaysian Islamic Welfare Organisation’s (Perkim) 46th annual general meeting at a hotel here, today....

At first glance, I read that as the "Malaysian Islamic Warfare Organisation".

I wonder why I keep linking Islam with violence. Hmmm.

Posted by: mike trivisonno at March 29, 2008 9:56 AM

"I am all for helping the Dutch, if I knew what companies and products to buy. (it would be nice if some Dutch person would help us out here)"

Well, i'm Dutch, and i believe our three major export products are chemicals, agricultural products and electronics.

Are the people in Malaysia gonna stop buying CD's and DVD's now? Because Philips invented those, and they still earn a few cents on every CD/DVD sold. Sony and Philips worked on Blue-Ray also. And almost every mobile phone on the planet contains components from Philips. Are they gonna stop buying those to? A hell of a lot of the worlds consumer electronics contains Dutch technology.

Posted by: KillJoy at March 29, 2008 10:06 AM

Muslims are idiots. According to what I've read, their countries are net importers of FOOD. The day we cut off that food and let them starve to death will be the day I know we're serious about ridding ourselves of this bunch of scum. I, for one, would laugh my *** off watching them starve in the streets of Malaysia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, wherever. Talk about a bunch of ingrates, biting the hand that feeds them.

This would truly be the most cleanly and low-cost solution.

Posted by: venividivici at March 29, 2008 10:46 AM

DEFEND FREEDOM AND STOP THE CREEPING OF ISLAMIZATION

Posted by: JUST_ICE at March 29, 2008 11:34 AM

DEFEND FREEDOM AND STOP THE CREEPING OF ISLAMIZATION

Posted by: JUST_ICE at March 29, 2008 11:35 AM

Supporting Dutch comanies are easier than you think. Here are some products made by Dutch companies:

Heineken beer

Grolsch beer

Philips (one of the largest electronics companies in the world, together with Sony invented CD, Blu-Ray DVD, made TV, stereo, lighting, high-end medical equipment etc...)

Magnavox (owned by Philips)

Shell (one of the largest multinational oil company)

Unilever (maker of Good Humor, Ben Jerry, Walls, Breyers, Klondike ice cream, Lipton tea, Jif, Country Crock margarine, Hellman's mayonaise, Bertolli olive oil, Close-up toothpaste, Knorr, Lever 2000, Dove soaps, Persil, All detergent, Axe deodorant, QTips, Pond's, Snuggle softener, Vaseline, Wisk, Slim-Fast, Ragu sauce, Skippy peanut butter, Wishbone salad dressing)

KLM (airlines)

Makro (supermarket)

Perfetti Van Melle (maker of Mentos mints)

DeKuyper (liquor)

Posted by: jihadfreak at March 29, 2008 1:02 PM

I just did an inventory at my house, Philips TV, VCR, 2 MP3 players, and 1 stereo; I bought these because of the Magnavox connection.

Wiki has a good article that lists the Philips companies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips

Posted by: Pelayo at March 29, 2008 1:43 PM

Mmmmm. Carlsberg....I have just switched beers.

Posted by: Alaskan at March 29, 2008 1:51 PM

Killjoy, add this: Philips gets a royalty from every audio cassette player and audio cassette produced.

BTW, the best TV I ever owned was a Philips\Magnavox. The only reason I had to let it go was because I couldn't get any more vacuum tubes.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 29, 2008 1:56 PM

I have a better idea Mahat baby.

Why doesn't the west simply boycott the entire islamic world.

No more medicine...no more technology...we can send all your international students back to be educated in the madrassahs.

That would work for me.

The next time your airlines needs some parts, Boeing and Airbus can tell you to get stuffed and start walking.

The next time you need some parts to maintain the electrical infrastructure...GE can tell you to light some candles...'the cheque is in the mail'.

You have no idea on how good you've got it.

You'd be back in the stone age before you could say 'ahmanutjob'.

I'd just love to see some reciprocal boycotting going on.

Unfortuantely our present leaders don't have the intestinal fortitude.

But in the meantime...just sit down and shut up.

You've had your day in the sun.

Posted by: raisethedrawbridge at March 29, 2008 4:33 PM

Islamic countries import a lot of cheese and yogurt from the Dutch. I remember when the first cartoons were published there was a huge boycott of Danish products. If my memory serves, their actual number of exports rose by a fair margin due to the western countries that supported them. I say boycott away, it can only help the Dutch economy!

Posted by: TiamoInfidels at March 29, 2008 4:57 PM

In case you were wondering where the word "boycott" came from. (I was hoping that it was Dutch. Nope!)
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott

The word boycott entered the English language during the Irish "Land War" and is derived from the name of Captain Charles Boycott, the estate agent of an absentee landlord, the Earl Erne, in County Mayo, Ireland, who was subject to social ostracism organized by the Irish Land League in 1880. In September that year protesting tenants demanded from Boycott a substantial reduction in their rents. He not only refused but also evicted them from the land. Charles Stewart Parnell, in his Ennis Speech proposed that, rather than resorting to violence, everyone in the locality should refuse to deal with him. Despite the short-term economic hardship to those undertaking this action, Boycott soon found himself isolated—his workers stopped work in the fields and stables, as well as the house. Local businessmen stopped trading with him, and the local postman refused to deliver mail.

The concerted action taken against him meant that Boycott was unable to hire anyone to harvest the crops in his charge. Eventually 50 Orangemen from Cavan and Monaghan volunteered to harvest his crops. They were escorted to and from Claremorris by one thousand policemen and soldiers—this despite the fact that Boycott's complete social ostracism meant that he was actually in no danger of being harmed. Moreover, this protection ended up costing far more than the harvest was worth. After the harvest, the "boycott" was successfully continued. Within weeks Boycott's name was everywhere. It was used by The Times in November 1880 as a term for organized isolation. According to an account in the book “The Fall of Feudalism in Ireland” by Michael Davitt, the term was coined by Fr. John O'Malley of County Mayo to "signify ostracism applied to a landlord or agent like Boycott". The Times first reported on November 20, 1880: “The people of New Pallas have resolved to 'boycott' them and refused to supply them with food or drink.” The Daily News wrote on December 13, 1880: “Already the stoutest-hearted are yielding on every side to the dread of being 'Boycotted'.” By January of the following year, the word was being used figuratively: "Dame Nature arose.... She 'Boycotted' London from Kew to Mile End" (The Spectator, January 22, 1881).

On December 1, 1880 Captain Boycott left his post and withdrew to England, with his family.

Posted by: Lex at March 29, 2008 7:41 PM

I am seriously thinking of opening an account with ING Bank.

Posted by: highbg at March 30, 2008 1:29 AM

When I think of the Netherlands, the first thing that comes to mind (in the way of products) are flowers; Tulips, Iris, Narcissus, Daffodils, and dozens of other bulbs that bloom every spring. Muslims have no use for anything beautiful and they don't buy much beer.

Muslims comprise about one fifth of the world's population. Their ability to make a dent in the world economy is minimal unless they wish to consume their oil instead of our food. We have both and when they stop exporting their oil, we will tap our own resources. They will be the ultimate losers and they know it.

Posted by: Susanp at March 30, 2008 10:56 PM

And thank you very much, sirs and madams, for making the same generalisations and wild-eyed suggestions that the Muslims make.

In case you have not noticed, Muslims make about 60% of Malaysia's population; another 40% are NON-MUSLIM!!!

Let's see - you want to cut off usage of Malaysian products because the Muslims get a cut off what the rest of us are making. Thus, preventing us from actually GETTING the money we would get.

You then think that, much as our gaga former PM does, that in a globalised economy you can simply identify what products any country like Malaysia makes. Well then... give up your Intel chips, your SUV tyres, your canned food, your Seagate and Western Digital HDDs, your shared services centre or outsourced functions, and oh yes, let's not forget Michelle Yeoh, Robert Kuok (for you HK-types) and fake goods. I had a coupla dudes over here from USA and AUS havin' a blast buyin' Gucci handbags and Rolex watches by the dozen in the local Chinatown.

Yes, and you want to cut immigration off. Fine, if you think ethnic Malays and Muslims are hopeless - I'll agree with you there anyday. Won't even have to shout me a beer. But what about the rest of us? You willing to let us in so's we don't have to deal with the meltdown over here?

And btw, Keating called Mahathir recalcitrant. Is this supposed to prove anything? You bloody Ockers told me to 'go home, Chink!' while I was studying there often enough - c.f. Pauline Hanson. This despite that you white folk and your indig black folk are lazy-ass and it's us Asian types supporting your economy. And then you tell us we're working too hard and to slack off (this actually happened)! Don't be too swift to tell us to bugger off, when you could do with a bit of a buggering off yourselves.

All I'm trying to say is that don't be as stupid as the Islamo-nuts are. Do your homework first. Malaysia *is* getting better - we just gave our government a swift kick in the backside.

Better than President Clinton (Hillary, nee Rodham) or President Barack Hussein Obama anyday.

Look, folks, you don't get all upset when Jimmy Carter or the Clenis goes and does something stupid, like they do almost every other day, right? I don't hear you calling for boycotts on US goods because of what their *former* leader is doing. I certainly don't hear you goin' all hoity-toity over Spitzer (or for that matter, his blind replacement). Boycotting New York? No? Well, then.

I do not defend the former PM of my country. He's gone gaga, and we all know that. (he's not, after all, drinking virgin baby blood anymore) But he's also pretty powerless now, and the only thing he can do is blow off steam. Our government is, however, part of the OIC, and they almost have to make some diplo-hoohah over this matter.

But we ain't the ones takin' up guns and blown' youse all up. Our buncha Muslims are all waaayyyy too laaazzzzyyyy (emphasis on the zzzzz) for that. So please, just let 'em be and let the rest of us keep running the show, OK?

Posted by: gkong3 at March 31, 2008 7:14 AM

gkong3

I am well aware of the existence of the non-Muslims in Malaysia, and I do distinguish between Muslim and non-Muslim (moreover, I am delighted whenever I hear of someone like Lina Joy, a Malay who has ditched Islam and joined a more human-friendly belief system).

It is a pity that while you were here you were called names by some ignorant people. I come from a 'colour blind' milieu myself: my auntie, of Scots-Irish Euro-Australian ancestry, married a Chinese man back in the early 1960s when such marriages were not exactly common, and I have two Eurasian cousins; one of my brothers married a girl from mainland China; my Italo-Australian best friend has a Malaysian Chinese sister-in-law.

However, you then descended to insult yourself, by slandering ALL Australians (blackfellas or whitefellas) as lazy and claiming that the Australians of Asian ancestry are doing all the work! EXCUSE ME: my father is 73 and worked a hard day's work every day of his life from age 12 to the present day (he is a farmer). You owe an apology to people like him, and all the other non-Asian Aussies I know who work hard and conscientiously with their brains or with their brawn.

So as far as I am concerned, any restriction on immigration would apply to Muslims ONLY.

Supposing your optimism is misplaced, and Malaysia becomes a sharia-dominated state, I would want my government to open our doors to Malaysian non-Muslims who wished to flee Muslim oppression.

A final thought: your posting has raised a very important issue.

The difficulty - and it is far from new - for non-Muslim states, and for bodies such as the church, in dealing with Muslim-dominated regimes/ societies, is that the non-Muslim populations within such Islamised regimes/ societies can end up functioning as de facto hostages.

The non-Muslim states or organisations can be crippled by the fear that if they take any punitive action against the Muslim-dominated entity, the non-Muslims within that entity will suffer as a result, either because of the action itself (such as sanctions) or because Muslims will be angered by the action and take out that anger not on the foreign Infidels but on those closer to hand.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 3, 2008 11:47 PM