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March 30, 2008

MI5 investigating Al-Qaeda attempt to infiltrate British labs, get killer viruses

Watch for the howls of protest to come, in which the possibility of Al-Qaeda's actually obtaining such viruses will be lost amid cries of "racism" and infringement of privacy, etc. "M15 in terrorist checks on 800 killer virus labs," by Jason Lewis in the Daily Mail (thanks to Sr. Soph):

MI5 and anti-terrorist police are carrying out secret background checks on thousands of scientists amid fears that Al Qaeda is trying to infiltrate British research laboratories to obtain deadly viruses.

The vetting, which includes checks on family backgrounds, political views and associates, is part of a review of some 800 laboratories in hospitals, universities and private firms where staff have access to incurable viruses such as ebola.

Last night, Whitehall sources confirmed the crackdown by MI5 and the police's National Counter Terrorism Security Office.

A series of spot checks and detailed inspections are also being led by experts from the Health and Safety Executive.

Last week one of the HSE's top inspectors revealed details of its investigation, which until now has been highly secret.

Dr Paul Logan, of its Biological Agents Unit, told a Commons sub-committee on biosecurity: "We work very closely with the security services. We advise them on toxins and pathogens.

"They are looking at very different things at the moment in terms of vetting of staff, looking at physical security and how easy it is to break into premises and the wider security issues."...

Posted by Robert at March 30, 2008 8:30 AM
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"...al Qaida is trying to infiltrate..." ???

If Muslims are employed, then it's highly likely that al Qaida or one of the thousands of similar (if less spectacular) Islamic Jihad organizations has infiltrated already. Before it's too late, let's stop all the silly pretenses designed not to offend enemy Islamic moles, Muslim terrorists, and their seditious treasonous Muslim fellows and apologists.

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 8:58 AM

What how dare they this is inciting racial hatered yes no not really they just want to have some fun. It really is a boring life you see. Not to mention we already told these Fitna people off for making such a racist and anti Islamic movie. And that man Wilders he is a Islamophobe. But we like the Al Qada to infiltrate our labs that is their religious right to cause mass mayhem and murder infidels. It is quite alright, I say.

Posted by: savsiv [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:06 AM

Stuck Mojo,, basically say's it all for me and all the freedom lovin' people I know and work with,,

here ya goo,, islam,,, the response of me and my infidel friends,, you will NEVER be able to force us to your 7th century hate ideology.

The Infidel Nation will prevail, like Janice Joplin says,,

"freedom is just another word for NOTHING left to loose"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA


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solsticewitch13
"don't annoy the bikers"

Posted by: solsticewitch13 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:11 AM

Profile! Profile!
Those with any Islamic background must be investigated more deeply. The case of the terrorist doctors proved this. Muslims are necessarily a special case for caution in view of demonic insanity that they are required to believe (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm ).

Posted by: FM [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:13 AM

And here is another one by Stuck Mojo,, for all my American friends,, who I love like Brothers and Sisters!!

I honour You!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD-t6tcBji4

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solsticewitch13
"don't annoy the bikers"

Posted by: solsticewitch13 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:17 AM

The vetting, which includes checks on family backgrounds, political views and associates, is part of a review of some 800 laboratories in hospitals, universities and private firms where staff have access to incurable viruses such as ebola.

Last night, Whitehall sources confirmed the crackdown by MI5 and the police's National Counter Terrorism Security Office



Simple solution for simple minds -- hire only islamists for these jobs and make them in charge of the investigation too; that's how we do it in the states ol' chaps.


Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:22 AM

How good is MI5 at understanding the jihadi mindset? I hope they're better than the CIA or the US State Department.
I think Britain has a deeper issue: How do they justify allowing so many Muslims to immigrate if they can't trust them? And that's not just their problem.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:23 AM

Slightly unrelated yet linked really is this about basra:

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. suffered a major strategic military setback in Basra yesterday if its goal is truly to turn over Iraq to the Iraqi army – a goal about which some of the war's biggest defenders are beginning to question, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

One well-paced military source told G2 Bulletin the initial fight over the Iraqi town went like this: "We lost Basra last night. An Iraqi army commander was told by the local Madhi army commander to lay down all their weapons, surrender all their uniforms, surrender their equipment and then there would be no trouble. The Iraqi army did just that."

"So we lost Basra faster than we lost Da Nang in 1975," he continued.

And this senior officer is not alone in observing parallels to Vietnam.

The "surge," while without question successful at reducing U.S. casualties and increasing the costs of war for the terrorists, is somewhat akin to Lyndon B. Johnson's bid to escalate the war by increasing the number of ground troops but in continuing to restrict their actions in destroying the enemy, say some frustrated U.S. troops and officers.

Likewise, some veterans of the conflict, including those who genuinely believe the war against Islamo-fascists was just and necessary, say the rules of engagement are mystifying – leaving some to wonder if military victory is actually the goal.

"We really should have assassinated Moqtadr al-Sadr in 2004, in the second Fallujah battle when we had the chance," said one senior officer frustrated by the fall of Basra to the Madhi army. "

Of course, just down the road from me, the American military is forbidden from going into Sadr City in hot pursuit of insurgents who have fired upon coalition forces."


http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60267

We can't "identify" the enemy, so how can we defeat them?

EASY! Get millions of US Dollars and litter the streets with them and hope someone is stupid --- er uhhh --- inspired enough to come forward with leads that we can investigate!

Between this and the M15 investigation someone ought to write a book: A Million and One Ways to Lose a War!

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:28 AM

No, witness, the problem in Iraq is that the "good guys" are Muslims. If the government there was secular or non-Moslem, there'd be a chance to align with a decent ally, but it's not and there isn't.
Would we have backed a Communist government during the Cold War, based on its alleged moderation, or that Communism was misuderstood by extremists? Of course not. The problem now is that the clarity of the Cold War has been muddled by people forced to confront something new they don't understand.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:46 AM

This is ridiculous scaremongering.
Everyone knows that Muslim extremism is derived from the poor and illiterate lower classes, disenfranchised by our uncaring capitalist ways.
How could such people get access to a lab?
We should check out a fiendish plan to bankrupt the west through tax evasion and benefit fraud, that's more the ticket.

Posted by: Ian [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Fear fear fear. Day in day out. It has become a constant in our lives thanks to Christian Fundamentalism.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:11 AM

There may be howls of protest, but only from the usual, unrepresentative suspects like the BBC, the Guardian, Liberty &c. The wider British public are aware of this elephant in the room, and will welcome any efforts the Security Service make.
Thank god the smallpox virus only exist in labs in the Russian Federation and the US.

Posted by: Jerry Reed [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:24 AM

There may be howls of protest, but only from the usual, unrepresentative suspects like the BBC, the Guardian, Liberty &c. The wider British public are aware of this elephant in the room, and will welcome any efforts the Security Service make.
Thank god the smallpox virus only exist in labs in the Russian Federation and the US.

Posted by: Jerry Reed [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:25 AM

Good news,, folks!!

NorthEast Intelligence Network,, has Fitna,, for download, in a AVI form,, plus excellent commentary on the movie!!

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/

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solsticewitch13
"don't annoy the bikers"

Posted by: solsticewitch13 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:34 AM

"Killing Fields" Survivor Dith Pran dies:

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/killing-fields-survivor-dith-pran-dies/20080330092509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:44 AM

From the above article about Dith Pran and the Communist regime of Pol Pot:


>>With thousands being executed simply for manifesting signs of intellect or Western influence - even wearing glasses or wristwatches - Dith survived by masquerading as an uneducated peasant, toiling in the fields and subsisting on as little as a mouthful of rice a day, and whatever small animals he could catch."

It struck me that this is what will happen if the Mohammedans ever take over. "for manifesting signs of intellect," execution. Yep, without doubt that would occur in a totalitarian Mohammedan hegemony.


Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 10:48 AM

Don't worry, its only 'a tiny minority of extremists'....

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 11:06 AM

Since the beginning where ever they go it has been death, destruction, looting, rape, murder and utter violence. Look at the history of Islam. From India to Spain and North Africa where these marauding band of Islamic thugs emulating their prophet went about with a license to kill, looting, raping and enslaving free peoples. Hey now they want to use the weapons of nuclear, or biological or chemical warfare to inflict what is inherently their calling. Islam makes them imbeciles and warmongers. They can only know how steal and destroy, rape women, make young kids bombers, but do not know how to create or enrich humanity with art, science, music, literature etc. It is just in their beings they have become the Mohammedenbots--they only obey the will of the Evil Allah and the evil doctrine of the Koran, Ahadith.

Posted by: savsiv [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 11:19 AM

This is what happened in 28 Days Later

Posted by: Vince [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 11:28 AM

I'm not worried at all.
This story is not true.

It would unislamic to use killer viruses against innocents.

Of course,..as to innocents...

Posted by: epaminondas [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 11:32 AM

Where is the news here? What government on the planet does not require background checks and some form of security clearance for the handling of dangerous biological, chemical, or nuclear agents?

Posted by: Mick_n_NYC [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 12:48 PM

Scary stuff.

Posted by: ikez78 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 12:56 PM

Guess those "secret" checks aren't so secret any more.

Awfully sporting to let major counterterrorim efforts be displayed on the front page of the local rag.

Seems like someone is batting for the other team.

Posted by: treehugger [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 12:56 PM

The worst virus is coded into the Koran.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 1:19 PM

"....scientists amid fears that Al Qaeda is trying to infiltrate British research laboratories to obtain deadly viruses."

Ya think!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 1:31 PM

Where is the story here?

The story is that the fears and background checks of MI5 are only oriented to Al Quaeda. Unless a Muslim has attended a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan and has a framed certificate of successful completion signed by Bin Laden hanging in his living room, he will not be screened by the process MI5 is allowed to use.

The same defect exists with U.S. security.

Solution: Allow, and require, discrimination in security clearance jobs based upon religion. "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?" needs to be expanded to similar inquiries aimed at screening out all Muslims, since they all have the same religion aimed at political and military conquest.

Posted by: Karl [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 2:08 PM

Well said Karl.

As I traveled through airport security recently, I had my bags checked by a muslim working for TSA!

Posted by: The Cool Ghoul [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 2:39 PM

Mick_n_NYC, I work for a corporation that processes nucular waste. There are no backgroung checks for workers; however, it would take a company wide conspiracy to sneak any radioactive material off the site. Most of the stuff we get are beta and gamma emitters, hard to conceal.

Since there are no detectors for dangerous viral or other biological substances, that is a problem. I do not know if biological workers in the US are screened. It would be very important to know if CDC emloyees have background checks.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 2:54 PM

Karl wrote:
"Allow, and require, discrimination in security clearance jobs based upon religion."

---

I think islam merely uses the guise of religion as a vehicle to propel itself. We need to stop giving islam a status of religion. Islam is a cult. And it also makes political and governmental "demands" wherever it spreads.

Civilized nations across the world tend to welcome people of different faiths. And islam uses this as an entry point. But peaceful coexistence is not the way of true islam.

Posted by: The Cool Ghoul [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 3:18 PM

I would pray that the We, as well as they, would screen everyone working with this type of material.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 3:29 PM

Wasn't there a scare a few years back with the West Nile Virus

Is West Nile Virus
A Biological Weapon
Out Of Control?

As it spreads across the United States the West Nile Virus is turning out to be more than a mere mosquito-borne disease that kills birds and makes humans sick. The virus is now killing horses, elk and deer. At last count 212 people died from the disease after it paralyzed them. At least two doctors have described the paralysis as having "polio-like symptoms" and are suggesting a link with a second virus identified as St. Louis encephalitis.

It was recently discovered to also be the cause of the mystery deaths of hundreds of alligators on Florida "gator" farms. That this virus not only crosses species, but attacks cold blooded reptiles (with skin so thick a mosquito could never penetrate it), has serious implications.
Until the appearance of West Nile Virus and Mad Cow Disease, the existence of a serious disease that crossed species and attacked its carriers was relatively rare. Bubonic plague is carried by rats and fleas, but only seems deadly to humans after a bite by infected fleas. Other diseases like Malaria, Rocky Mountain Fever and the Haunta Virus are brought to humans through contact with biting insects or the feces of infected mice.

There are signs that West Nile Virus is a deadly predator in our midst that is out of control. If it is randomly jumping species by not only insect bite, but physical contact, it means that most living things may be in danger. While most humans are known to survive the infection, we do not know if a survival rate exists among the animals. Horses that receive good medical care also are known survivors but even there the death rate is as high as 40 percent.
So where would such a virile bug like West Nile Virus originate? Would you believe it was a bio-terrorist weapon that may have been created in our own government laboratories about 20 years ago?
A recent editorial by Ernest Stewart in his Internet political magazine "Issues and Alibis," quoted a document titled "Senate Report 103-900, United States Dual-Use Export To Iraq And Their Impact On the Health of the Persian Gulf War Veterans," dated May 25, 1994. The committee that created the report was said to be the Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee chaired by Sen. Donald Riegle of Michigan.
According to Stewart, the report stated that the United States shipped various pathogens to Iraq in the 1980s with the full knowledge of the Department of Commerce and the CDC. Among the list of pathogens in that shipment were Bacillus Anthracis (anthrax), Clostridium botulinum, and West Nile Fever Virus.
If the report is accurate, it would explain why President Bush was so sure Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction. We once gave a package of deadly pathogens to Saddam Hussein.
But it also seems that the horse is already out of the barn. The anthrax letter scare proved to be an effective killing agent but with limitations. The West Nile Virus, on the other hand, is here and it is going to be a slow and insidious disease that will take its toll. Were they both delivered by terrorists?
Dr. Patricia Doyle, who maintains a web site titled "Emerging Diseases" and has gained some notoriety through public radio appearances, suggests in a published article that the West Nile Virus in the United States is a "recombinant, manufactured virus."
Unlike the strains of West Nile Virus occurring in the Middle East and in Africa, Dr. Doyle said the virus is generating unique polio-like symptoms among victims in the United States.
She wrote: "All of the anomalies that we are seeing in the US regarding the West Nile Virus outbreak have not occurred in other areas of the world.
"At this time, I have not seen the lab results of blood tests on (the) six West Nile Virus/Polio cases and cannot state that we have actually isolated polio virus (aka: picornovirus of the genus enterovirus) but I do realize that we are seeing West Nile Virus trigger a polio-like sequalae or syndrome," Doyle wrote.
Doyle is suggesting that someone in a laboratory has combined the West Nile Virus with the polio virus and created a deadly new bug. And that bug has been unleashed on the United States.
A recent article by Dr. Miguel A. Faria Jr. goes even farther. Faria reported that Ken Alibek, author of "Biohazard" and former deputy head of the Soviet biological warfare project, and Dr. Manuel Cereijo, professor at Florida International University, believe the outbreak "may be a direct result of a joint biological terrorism project between Iraq and Cuba."
Faria wrote that Cereijo reported in April, 2002, that "Iraq received the West Nile virus in the late 1980s from the CDC, while Cuba received the St. Louis encephalitis virus, which is very similar to the West Nile virus, for medical research."
The story suggests that it was the Cubans that financed the research in a biological attack that could be launched against the United States through migratory birds.
It is possible that terrorism attacks against the United States started long before the planes were flown into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. While not as spectacular as the September 11 event, in the long run this attack may turn out to be far more deadly, with world wide implications.
We could have at work the makings of an insidious bug that threatens every living creature, everywhere. The presence of this dangerous new form of West Nile Virus has already change our way of life. Who can enjoy a walk in the woods or even a summer evening in the yard without worrying about being bitten by an infected mosquito?

Posted by: InfidelK9 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 4:28 PM

If they get their hands on some of those viruses, real estate will become real cheap real fast. I guess it's a matter of time really.

Posted by: PRCalDude [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 5:09 PM

Vince, you mentioned this already happened in the film "28 days later".

But Islam is the real virus: The 'Rage' Virus.

Posted by: Infidel419 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 5:57 PM

Sometimes it's difficult to determine if posters here are being sarcastic or serious.

Poetcomic1 wrote:
"Fear fear fear. Day in day out. It has become a constant in our lives thanks to Christian Fundamentalism."

Darn those fearmongering Christian fundamentalists in MI5.Or is it the Christian fundamentalists responsible for over 10,800 deadly terror attacks against unbelievers since 9/11/01?Perhaps we should blame those Christian fundamentalists who jacked the planes on that day?Or is it that irrefutable Bible in which Jesus endorses terror against unbelievers and calls for instituting worldwide Christian supremacy by any means?
/sarc off

Poetcomic1 mirrors the twisted view of Pakistan's acting interior minister, Hamid Nawaz, who claims that the USA is backing up Al Qaeda and the Taliban to cause the violence there.Apparently, nothing has been learned from editorials in Roznama Ausaf, history, reality, world news, the Qur'an, the Bible, or Jihad Watch.Blaming Christian Fundamentalism for the steady stream of Islamic violence and is either a joke or the result of ignorance...which is it?

Ian wrote:
"This is ridiculous scaremongering...etc"

This is either sarcasm or the result of ignorance.Perhaps nothing has been learned from history, reality, world news, the Qur'an, or Jihad Watch.

Posted by: HawkWatcher [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2008 9:35 PM

Every time I hear of an outbreak of ebola or marburg, I get the cold chills. I know the US CDC and the WHO sends a team of "scientists" to investigate and collect samples... but I wonder who else does too. I always watch the news for another “outbreak” some where else in the world.

Posted by: praxis9 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 31, 2008 12:18 AM

The fact that they're doing this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

After all, they let convicted Islamic terrorists out of jail early, the Home Office is riddled with Muslims with extremist sympathies, and at the last count more than 2,000 would be Jihadis are roaming loose in the UK.

And they're still bending over backwards to placate them. It fills me with dread that my well being is in the hands of this group of bunglers.

Posted by: AR [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 31, 2008 5:56 AM

"I think islam merely uses the guise of religion as a vehicle to propel itself."

Excellent observation, CoolGhoul.

Posted by: Big Luke [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 31, 2008 9:04 AM

Here's my question, I wonder what Al-Qaeda's plan is to protect densely populated muslim shanty-towns from a retaliatory biological attack from an anonymous Western Cell? Google Belmont Club's "Fourth Conjecture". If Al-Qaeda can initiate a biological attack on the Western World, a militia group in Idaho can retaliate in kind against a muslim city (ex. Jakarta). Guess who's more vulnerable, a Western City with modern sanitation and medical facilities, or a Third World Muslim City with none of these?

Posted by: R.A.W. [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 1, 2008 12:18 AM

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