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Religion of Peace. "Indonesian protesters call for death of Dutch anti-Islam filmmaker," from the CBC:
Outcry over a Dutch politician's anti-Islam film continued Monday, with hard-line Muslims in Indonesia calling for the man's death.
A group of about 40 demonstrators from the Islamic Defenders Front gathered outside the Dutch Embassy in Jakarta, some of them carrying placards saying "Kill Geert Wilders," the film's creator.
"It is a great insult to all Muslims," said the group's spokesman Soleh Mahmud, who admitted he has not seen the film but was outraged nonetheless.
"The Dutch government must arrest him. Wilders must be killed because he has declared war on Muslims."
In neighbouring Malaysia, the Foreign Ministry described the film as disrespectful and insensitive, while the opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party has sent a note to the Dutch Embassy, saying the movie would "invite vengeance" from Muslims if was not retracted.
Calls for Dutch boycott
The party urged Muslims "all over the world" to boycott Dutch products in protest, echoing a similar call by former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad this weekend.
"We hope the protests by Muslims all around the world can be taken as our disapproval against any insult and attempts to deceive the world of the true picture of Islam," the party's youth leader, Salahuddin Ayub, said in a statement.
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"It is a great insult to all Muslims," said the group's spokesman Soleh Mahmud, who admitted he has not seen the film but was outraged nonetheless.
"The Dutch government must arrest him. Wilders must be killed because he has declared war on Muslims."
(from article above)
Ok. This guy hasn't seen the movie but is outraged nonetheless.
What a clueless, brainless idiot. The collective IQ of all of these people wouldn't get above zero.
And no, Wilders has not declared a war on Muslims. He has merely pointed out the fact that Muslims have declared war on non-Muslims and he isn't going to be one of those passive bystanders who will get slaughtered in your jihadist rampages. If you don't like it, tough. Get used to it.
Posted by: S Perry
at April 2, 2008 12:45 AM
"We hope the protests by Muslims all around the world can be taken as our disapproval against any insult and attempts to deceive the world of the true picture of Islam," the party's youth leader, Salahuddin Ayub, said in a statement.
Wilders isn't attempting to "deceive the world of the true picture of Islam", he just reports what Muslims say and shows what they do. This isn't being deceitful. He just captures reality.
In other words Ayub, you should be glad Wilders did such a great job at making this, video which you could have tried to do but would have failed miserably at.
It's not like Wilders is out to depict Islam as all fluffy and warm and loving.
Posted by: S Perry
at April 2, 2008 12:49 AM
I'm rolling around laughing at these idiots. Even the fact that they are issuing dangerous threats can't disguise the ridiculousness of their brainless hysteria!!
Honestly, the most over-the-top satire couldn't even equal the statements these headless chooks come up with.
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
Posted by: Lili
at April 2, 2008 12:52 AM
Do these Islamists have no sense of irony? By their very actions and words they reaffirm the central theme of the film. I say to hell with them and their misplaced and irrational sensitivities.
As for Mahathir Mohammed, he is a rabid anti-Semite and West-hating demagogue with a large post-colonial chip on his shoulder. He is a man with no morals or scruples, and his opinions are worthless. I remember that Islamic Malaysia banned the film "Schindler's List" as Jewish propaganda.
Posted by: The Northumbrian
at April 2, 2008 12:54 AM
"Islam is not violent. Death to those who disagree!"
Throw all logic out the window...
Posted by: lightlysalted
at April 2, 2008 12:54 AM
My cousin sent me the link from Michael Savage site and I watched it and sent it out to ALL my friends and so on and so on and so on. Actually it was just a compialation of all that islam has wrought on the world and can't be disputed, that's all.
Posted by: Infidel Brotherhood
at April 2, 2008 1:03 AM
Dysfunctionalism and Islamism are synonymous. These moronic, puddin’ heads continue validating, Wilders’ message throughout Fitna; Islam is a malignancy bent on sucking the life out of humankind. The sooner this disease, in guise of a religion, is expunged, the better.
Posted by: ballzack
at April 2, 2008 1:11 AM
"We hope the protests by Muslims all around the world can be taken as our disapproval against any insult and attempts to deceive the world of the true picture of Islam,"
The film depicts the true picture if Islam.
Muslims are the deceivers about the violence in their rabid belief system.
Hopefully, the protests drum up sufficient opposition around the world so that this violent cult can be dealt with, before it destroys civilisation.
Posted by: Dsinc
at April 2, 2008 1:21 AM
"The Dutch government must arrest him. Wilders must be killed because he has declared war on Muslims."
Why can't the Dutch, and other Western governments, realize that they only encourage these Muslim screwball by not taking a firm and principled stand in defense of Western ideals of freedom.
If Western governments would just say, in response to Muslim threats and demands, that their religious sentiments can not, and will not, determine how Western societies operate, and that no one is going to be arrested and punished for exercising their rights, maybe Muslims will finally get the message that all their hoopin, hollerin and demands are pointless, because no one's going tp pay any attention to them.
As it is, Dutch and other Western leaders, issue statements that almost amount to sympathy and support for these Muslim nut cases, which leaves them believing that if only they press a little harder, and issue even more threats and demands, they'll get what they want in the end.
Only a firm, and unconditional, statement of principles by Western governments can put an end to any hopes by Muslims that they can impose their will on the rest of us.
Posted by: rational
at April 2, 2008 1:32 AM
"We hope the protests by Muslims all around the world can be taken as our disapproval against any insult and attempts to deceive the world of the true picture of Islam," the party's youth leader, Salahuddin Ayub, said in a statement.
Really no...you're actually showing us the true nature of Islam. Thank you, my Muslim brothers. More and more of us are beginning to understand. Keep it up. Good job on the outreach. "Criticize Islam or call it violent and we'll kill you" We got it. We understand how peaceful Islam is. Thanks. Morons.
Posted by: Rick
at April 2, 2008 1:37 AM
I feel sorry for Mr Wilders,he now has to alter his holiday plans.
Posted by: jiacomino uk
at April 2, 2008 1:52 AM
Those, including USPOT, commander-in-chief, who deny Islamic hostility, are cowards. Period.
Posted by: Alert
at April 2, 2008 2:20 AM
I am Spartacus...I mean Geert Wilders!
No, I am Geert Wilders.
I, also, am Geert Wilders.
Geert Wilders is ME!
10 million free people (in unison):
! We are Geert Wilders !
Posted by: No More Ham, Ed
at April 2, 2008 2:44 AM
"It is a great insult to all Muslims," said the group's spokesman Soleh Mahmud, who admitted he has not seen the film but was outraged nonetheless.
This passage says it all for me. It couldn't be clearer. The "group spokesman", with no real evidence, hadn't even seen it for himself, and calls for someone's death. And he's the SPOKESMAN. That means they think he is the one who is wise and most articulate.
He would probably also be the guy who throws the first stone at the local stoning-to-death events.
Posted by: No More Ham, Ed
at April 2, 2008 3:00 AM
But non-muslims deserve to be punished anyway. Because they are non-muslims, and therefore guilty of rejecting the prophet.
Report: Non-Muslims Deserve to Be Punished
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344409,00.html
Posted by: arjun.sevak
at April 2, 2008 3:40 AM
The Fox news report is in error.
"A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape."
In actuality, Islam Watch is a site run by ex-Muslims who have rejected the hateful teachings of islam.
This is a very important distinction. It is the *ex-muslims*, not the muslims, who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred.
Posted by: The Cool Ghoul
at April 2, 2008 4:37 AM
The same story is getting headlines over at http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200804/CUL20080402b.html
Posted by: Eastview
at April 2, 2008 6:51 AM
Looks like a handful of the FPI thugs who smash up churches and bars for kicks. Not even a busload!
Its hardly a protest in Jakarta with 40, 4000 would hardly be a protest in a city Jakarta's size, more like 40,000 if it was serious.
Nothing to see here folks, move along. Maybe on Friday?
Posted by: sri
at April 2, 2008 6:59 AM
To paraphrase an infamous islamic protest sign:
Islam is the Cancer
Truth is the Answer
Some people are brave enough to tell, and defend, the truth. Let's hope Geert Wilders has excellent security around him.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at April 2, 2008 7:05 AM
I am outraged by all this outrageous outrage.
As a protest I have decided to boycott all goods made in Islamic countries.
With the possible exception of carpets, and natural resources which aren't of course made but are merely extracted, usually thanks to infidel know-how, these include;
Absolutely nothing.
It'll be a tough sacrifice, I know, doing without absolutely nothing for a while but I think it's a stand worh taking.
Posted by: Rab
at April 2, 2008 7:29 AM
"Wilders must be killed because he has declared war on Muslims."
This clever man must be a magician. By illustrating the words of the Qur'an, the words of Muslims, and graphic images of Muslims causing violence and death, he has become the one to declare war. Presto Chango!
My ass. Osama Bin Laden started this war. If violent jihad continues to escalate at current paces, the West just may have to actually declare real war on Muslims.
Half this battle takes place right here online and in other media...the jihadists said so and I agree.
Let's kick it.
Until then, in case the calls for boycott succeed, we can buy more stuff online direct from Netherlands. Like Droste chocolate...mmmm...I highly recommend it.
Posted by: HawkWatcher
at April 2, 2008 7:32 AM
Geert Wilders "must be killed" for quoting the Koran? Then let that rule apply to all, starting with the 'Koran quoters' in the mosques every Friday! Justice for all!
These people are completely devoid of logic and their hysteria borders on insanity. That's putting it kindly.
Posted by: Sencit
at April 2, 2008 7:44 AM
Geert Wilders has proven his point. Muslims haven't figured that out yet.
Posted by: tanstaafl
at April 2, 2008 7:48 AM
I'm with No More Ham, Ed ... I, too, am Geert Wilders. So there!
It reminds me of some movie I saw a while back where "the law" (which was really just a bunch of criminals with authority - draw your own ironic conclusions) was looking for some "outlaw," and everyone in town stepped forward and claimed to be him.
Hmm, maybe I'll make a t-shirt that says it ...
Posted by: Lori B.
at April 2, 2008 8:10 AM
The poor Dutch can't win, being boycotted by signers of the pro-Wilders petition (5309 signers, as of a few minutes ago) as well as by outraged Muslim anti-Wilders folks.
Just think how differently and better things may have turned out had Mohammad the Arabian Profiteer NEVER BEEN BORN.
Posted by: Lex
at April 2, 2008 8:17 AM
HawkWatcher
Actually, Osama Bin Laden did not start the war. Mohamed did that. Bin Laden is merely carrying on the tradition.
As to the West actually declaring real war on Muslims: Islam actually declared real war on the West over a thousand years ago. Western governments have yet to admit this fact, but it's a fact, nonetheless.
The unwillingness of Western governments to face this problem, or even to admit that there is a problem, is utterly stupid, and is little short of criminal. By refusing to act, Western governments are essentially condemning their own societies to death.
Call me a pessimist, but I believe that it is already too late for Europe. They are doomed no matter what happens now; as admirable as Mr. Wilders is, he's only one guy.
It is not yet too late for the U.S., but we are running out of time. If the required changes are to take place at all, it must be very soon.
Posted by: shortfattexan
at April 2, 2008 8:53 AM
Geert Wilders Sadistic, Says Psychologist
KOTA KINABALU, April 2 (Bernama) -- Dutch legislator Geert Wilders who produced the anti-Islam film "Fitna", has a character flaw which in the psychological term can be defined as sadistic, says a psychologist.
Psychology professor Dr Rosnah Ismail from Universiti Malaysia Sabah (UMS) said such a person lacked human feelings and was inclined to enjoy violence.
"The more violent it is, the more he likes and enjoys it," said Rosnah, who is also the director of the university's Research and Innovation Centre.
"In this case, Geert Wilders purposely showed 'Fitna", a film that has elements of violence and that insults Islam, which he knows very well could arouse the anger of Muslims all over the world. He can be regarded as being sadistic," she told Bernama when asked to comment on the Dutch legislator's action.
The 17-minute film carries footage of attacks on New York in 2001 and Madrid in 2004, and interspersed with Quranic verses.
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news.php?id=324281
Posted by: Crazy Dentist
at April 2, 2008 9:44 AM
Crazy Dentist - good post!
In this case, I feel that it is the pot calling the kettle black.
Or "before you accuse me, take a look at yourself"
Or "notice the mote in your neighbor's eye and not the beam in your own".
Posted by: tanstaafl
at April 2, 2008 10:21 AM
How 'bout we tell them to go ahead and boycott the Dutch and Danes. . .and then the foreign aid that goes to muslim countries, we send to the Netherlands and Denmark to counter balance the boycott. Money better spent any way.
The only draw back I can see, is that all the other non-muslim countries will be making their own films to get in on the action. /sarc
On the other hand, the Dutch should respond by deporting a dutch muslim for every Euro lost to a boycott. Make it up on money saved in muslim welfare costs.
If they want an economic war, let's give them an economic war. Oh wait, that won't win any hearts and minds. /sarc
In the meantime, buy Dutch chocolate and Danish cookies and coffee.
Posted by: walterc
at April 2, 2008 10:58 AM
Psychology professor Dr Rosnah Ismail from Universiti Malaysia Sabah
Well that explains a lot. Any psychology professor from the Universiti Malasia Sabah, can tell you that long distance diagnosing, using psychic powers only, is a gift from Allah. You don't need college for this, just a dark room and some mushrooms. This is the same method used by US liberals to diagnose G Bush. Personally, I don't think this is very reliable. Most psychologists conduct an examination, a series of interviews, and a written test with questions like, 'A rolling stone gathers no moss', means what? Or what does, 'People who live in glass houses should not throw stones', mean?
Any one who can give the correct answers to those two questions is diagnosed a paranoid, anyone who is slow to answer or does not answer is a catatonic schizophrenic. If you think the questions are silly and laugh, you are a hebephrenic suffering inappropriate laughter.
So, according to these professors, some trained at the Universiti Sabah, some trained at UC Berkeley Cal USA, everyone is crazy no matter how they answer. Unless of course they are muslims, who don't usually know what a glass house is, and are not familiar with moss.
Well, this is cutting edge psychology Professor Ismail is engaged in. The fact that he can diagnosis Wilder telepathically with only mushrooms and news reports, shows that the field of applied mushroom induced diagnosis is making headway in Malaysia. Liberals have known of this since the 60's...
at April 2, 2008 12:05 PM
Crazy Dentist,
That a Muslim psychologist would diagnose Wilders as being "sadistic" is completely predictable, although not for the reasons given by Professor Rosnah Ismail. His name alone should tell you all you need to know about the quality of his diagnosis. "Islamic Psychology" is not the same as Western psychology. Just as "Islamic Science" has very little to do with real science and is defined by the contents of Islam and its interpretations by "Islamic Scholars," so, too, is "Islamic Psychology" defined and constrained.
Professor Ismail is speaking ex officio from within the middle of an Islamic country. His ruminations are as predictable as what the Flat Earthers might offer in regard to the shape of the earth, and can be similarly dismissed.
Posted by: Eastview
at April 2, 2008 12:15 PM
The Dutch government must arrest him. Wilders must be killed because he has declared war on Muslims.
I hope the Dutch government does not go along with this. There is a chance they won't.
Posted by: special_guest
at April 2, 2008 12:51 PM
Most populous Muslim nation warns YouTube to take down the "Fitna" movie. URL posted here about news story.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200804/CUL2008040
at April 2, 2008 12:51 PM
duh_swami said
Well, this is cutting edge psychology Professor Ismail is engaged in. The fact that he can diagnosis Wilder telepathically with only mushrooms and news reports, shows that the field of applied mushroom induced diagnosis is making headway in Malaysia.
This Professor Ismail must be the psychologist that the U.S. and European police go to, to get their instantaneous telepathic diagnosis of "lone deranged individual with no link to terrorism" whenever a jihadi carries out their glorious suicide-homicide mission. Given the timezone difference, she must be on-call 24/7.
Posted by: special_guest
at April 2, 2008 1:03 PM
I have six download links to Fitna on my blog. For the past three days I have been getting many visitors to download their own copy of Fitna. I was surprised to see that the great majority of visitors was from Indonesia.
Apparently, in Indonesia there is a great deal of interest in Fitna.
Posted by: Stogie
at April 2, 2008 1:24 PM
What excellent odds that turns out to be. 1 vs 1.3 Billion. My Money is on Mr.Wilders.
Who looses more by the boycott. The Executives at U Tube or the general population of Indonesia? If they block U Tube, how will the Militants get their message out? I think they are so mad at their own behavior, they cannot think straight.
Picked up som,e fine Dutch Fruit Spread today. It looks so fine I would not consider detracting the taste buds with good old fashion American Peanut Butter.
Sit back, put my feet up and enjoy a fine 16 min. Film. Pondering the differences of one way of life over another.
Posted by: flowerknife_us
at April 2, 2008 4:41 PM
Maybe the boycott should include muslims leaving Dutch lands and migrating back to their country of origin. Nahhh, just riot, desrtoy property and cry islamophobia.
btw~ Geert... love the hair brotha!
Posted by: Smitty777
at April 3, 2008 2:54 AM
I was surprised to see that the great majority of visitors was from Indonesia.
Apparently, in Indonesia there is a great deal of interest in Fitna.
Posted by: Stogie
Yeah, but they're whoopin up and down flashing V signs while they're watching.
/sarc
They're a simple childish people, and dangerous to tourism, ala Kuta.
Posted by: Battle_of_Tours
at April 3, 2008 4:18 PM
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