At least they're not holding up signs in English for the media.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at April 2, 2008 10:49 AM

Sign: "Freedom of Speech comes with Responsibility".

Yeah, like using news clippings and undoctored video to prove a point that something is breeding violence within the world.

Oops.

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 10:52 AM

"How about you guys pitch in also, but doing something to rein in your coreligionists who call for warfare against and the subjugation of people of other religions -- as we see in Fitna?"

That's too difficult, and gets them no "face time' in the media or the mosque.

Posted by: kutabeach at April 2, 2008 10:56 AM

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a ha ha ha

I love the preaching about the responsibility that comes with freedom when the adjacent poster uses fredom to repsonsibly demonise someone and call them satan....

This is so funny cos if those "responsible" demonstrators watched the film they would realise that the someone who made a film didn't demonise anyone, he just showed video footage of some moslems demonising people.....

ha ha ha

Posted by: exposesithlords at April 2, 2008 10:56 AM

Funny how these "moderates" dont get this worked up over the jihadists that "highjack" Islam.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 2, 2008 11:03 AM

Yep, just like driving a car with a "Defeat Jihad" bumper sticker. Two muslimahs in a car behind me were nearly apoplectic with rage from my bumper sticker....they think jihad is islamic? Hmmm, I thought they were peaceful.
/sarcasm

Posted by: interestinconundrum at April 2, 2008 11:10 AM

Ha! Someone has been playing games at Wikipedia. The entry for United Malays National Organisation has been edited to show it as the United Morons National Association. I blame Geert Wilders!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Malays_National_Organisation

Posted by: Matamoros at April 2, 2008 11:15 AM

Slander? Defamation?
Fine. Let's have a trial.
Truth is a complete defense in the civilized world. Uh, maybe we should be careful selecting the trial venue.

Montjoie

Godfrey

Posted by: Godfrey Boullion at April 2, 2008 11:22 AM

Yep, just like driving a car with a "Defeat Jihad" bumper sticker. Two muslimahs in a car behind me were nearly apoplectic with rage from my bumper sticker....they think jihad is islamic? Hmmm, I thought they were peaceful.
/sarcasm

Posted by: interestinconundrum at April 2, 2008 11:10 AM

interestin - I also drive with a "Defeat Jihad" bumper sticker (ordered from this site). Did you read my story of a few weeks ago? A male Mohammedan drove up to my bumper, rolled his head around in a wierd fashion, then basically made me pull over to the side as he wasn't getting off my bumper, and gave me the bird as he passed by!

I gave him the bird back and stayed put until he was gone.

Wow - check out our experiences from the RoP!

Oh, also, my comment did get posted the other day on the Reveille, and I think I saw yours, too, about Islam only being 1400 years old? Is that the right one?

Posted by: darcy at April 2, 2008 11:26 AM

Mind-numbed radicalized robots!

Posted by: spartanoak at April 2, 2008 11:30 AM

How is genuine, undoctored film footage "slander?" Anyone know?

Posted by: darcy at April 2, 2008 11:33 AM

My point exactly Darcy.
Monjoie!

Posted by: Godfrey Boullion at April 2, 2008 11:34 AM

Bonjour Godfrey.

The poster of Geert as "satan" really takes the cake! I have to laugh, it's so pitiful. "United Morons National Association" is so right, Matamoros.

These people - they just don't get freedom of speech. Brains too indoctrinated since birth. "This is Your Brain on Islam": Picture of a Qur'an taking up the entire head.

Posted by: darcy at April 2, 2008 11:46 AM

Hey, everybody!

Don't forget that fella in the back of the photo, holding up the "Islam Is Peace" sign!

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 12:02 PM

This is your brain................egg

This is your brain on Islam...............broken egg frying in pan

Oh, no! I just offended Muslims everywhere!

So when am I going to get my own poster depicting me as "Satan'?

Posted by: tanstaafl at April 2, 2008 12:13 PM

Tanstaafl, I really don't think you want that. They already used the muscly, body-builder devil picture for Geert.

You'll end up with your head on the body of a scrawny fella wearing oversized red underwear and carrying a pitchfork.

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 12:19 PM

... and a can of ham.

There is no justice in Islam!

(Sorry, the punchline hit me after I hit "Post.")

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 12:20 PM

Seems Malaysia has its share of whiny, pouty Muslims, too.

What a loathsome bunch.

Posted by: undaunted at April 2, 2008 12:44 PM

Slander, huh? Then they are calling fellow Muslims and the Qur'an SLANDEROUS!

The film showed Muslims being Muslims, and verses from the Qur'an - not one word from Wilder's - and yet he is the one being accused of slander. Hmmm.

Backwards-Business as usual.

Posted by: champ at April 2, 2008 12:52 PM

These people know that Wilder is not Satan. The Quran tells them who Satan is, where he lives, and who he hangs out with. This is just supposed to be one huge insult, in response to another huge insult.
The muslim life is full of insults, either incoming or out going. The biggest insult of course is the rejection of Allah. All non believers are guilty of that. As long as there is one infidel left anywhere the muslim conscience will be insulted. Dar al-harb guarantee's insulted muslims, and insulted muslims attack. Islam does not understand the concept of 'live and let live'. Islam will not live in harmony with dar al-harb, unless it establishes the rules and is dominant. Even then, the mere existence of dhimmi's is a further, and final insult to be eliminated, so that all really is for Allah.
Nope, Wilder is not Satan, just muslims current irritant...There are more irritants in their futures...

Posted by: duh_swami at April 2, 2008 12:54 PM

Yep, just like driving a car with a "Defeat Jihad" bumper sticker.

I already have a baseball shirt with the word "kufr" in Arabic script across the front, but I want something truly offensive to Muslims to wear.

I'll need help though; I need to know what the current insults are in Arabic idiom. I want to know that the worst insult I can make on martyrs is, and I need to know how to express it in unstilted Arabic.

Something like "I shit on the graves of all shuhada."

Anyone have any tips? I know a little Hebrew, so that helps in examining learn-Arabic sites, but I am having trouble finding the exact phrasing for the what I want to express. Any native speakers here?

Posted by: non-croyant at April 2, 2008 12:59 PM

"Yep, just like driving a car with a "Defeat Jihad" bumper sticker"

I wonder what these muslim shad done if the bumper sticker said, f*** allah or muhammed was a pig!
I also wonder why they refer to Geert as right wing? I thought he was a typical netherland leftist?

Posted by: desidude at April 2, 2008 1:04 PM

non-croyant....my favourite Arabic insult is 'may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits'

Posted by: johndoe at April 2, 2008 1:13 PM

Lori B posted:

Hey, everybody!

Don't forget that fella in the back of the photo, holding up the "Islam Is Peace" sign!

Ha! I missed it and had to go back and look. My goodness, what a crazy thing to see. It's like the children's game... one of these things is different from the others, can you find which one it is?

Islam, yes... a little "different".

Posted by: praxis9 at April 2, 2008 1:21 PM

I am feeeeling the peeece and am feeeling the luuuuv. (while I dearly cling onto my neck!)

Posted by: R_not at April 2, 2008 1:33 PM

Praxis,

No. More like "Where's Abdul?"

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 1:50 PM

My bad ... I guess it should be "Where's Wahhaldo?"

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 1:54 PM

THe Religion of Peace and Mercy: "As a Muslim...I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim"

From Foxnews.COM APril 1,2008

A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

"Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain."

The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

Click here to watch the interview with Islamic lawyer Anjem Choudary.

"You are innocent if you are a Muslim," Choudary tells the BBC. "Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."

Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

"As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344409,00.html

Posted by: Godfrey Boullion at April 2, 2008 1:54 PM

non-croyant,

Probably not quite what you're looking for, but here's an English to Arabic dictionary:
http://www.ectaco.co.uk/English-Arabic-Dictionary/

Here's the search phrase I 'googled':
'english to arabic dictionary'

And here's the page that came up (plenty of other possibilites that may be what you need:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GFRC_en___US209&q=english+to+arabic+dictionary

Posted by: PRCS at April 2, 2008 1:55 PM

(while I dearly cling onto my neck!)

Posted by: R_not

LOL!! Ah well, they can have my head, but my heart is already taken. Islam is for losers, so don't lose your head over it. Hardy-har.

Posted by: champ at April 2, 2008 1:55 PM

'Islam without violence is like an omelette without eggs' - says Pat Condell here, about FITNA:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OxbYBIlT6VE

Good stuff, in case someone hasn't seen this yet.

Posted by: Calon Lan at April 2, 2008 1:59 PM

Robert wrote
Don't create religious tension"! Okay! How about you guys pitch in also, but doing something to rein in your coreligionists who call for warfare against and the subjugation of people of other religions

Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

"As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim."

There it is. Never going to happen. The only Muslims who are ever going to criticize their extremist brothers unequivocally are ex muslims and only the fearless ones at that. I would say that Islam is the religion of pigs, but pigs have more intelligence not to mention more compassion. I think that things like the Fitna movie will open the eyes some of Muslims. It's a religion that I think in the long run is destined to loose market share. At least among those with an IQ above room temperature.

Posted by: Rick at April 2, 2008 2:30 PM

"body of a scrawny fella wearing oversized red underwear and carrying a pitchfork"

Lori B. - I demand the horns! I will not be Satan without them1

Posted by: tanstaafl at April 2, 2008 2:48 PM

Hi darcy, yes that was me at the Reveille. Surprised me that my comment was posted.
Yes, I saw your post about your bumper sticker. Funny isn't it that "Defeat Jihad" is an insult?

Posted by: interestinconundrum at April 2, 2008 3:33 PM

Are we talking little itty bitty "Lorne from Angel" horns, or big honkin' "that devil guy from Legend that could poke somebody's eye out from across the room" horns? LOL

Oh nevermind, I don't think I wanna get into that discussion here! HA!

P.S. You forgot the canned ham.

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 3:35 PM

Are there any 'Defeat Jihad' T-shirts?

I need one or two....

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 2, 2008 3:44 PM

Sheik, I didn't see any. But I just added "I'm not an Islamo-phobe, I'm an Islamo-realist" over on my site. And I'll be adding "I Am GEERT WILDERS" later tonight.

www.cafepress.com/antidhimmitude

Posted by: Lori B. at April 2, 2008 3:53 PM

>>Slander? Defamation?
Fine. Let's have a trial.
Truth is a complete defense in the civilized world. Uh, maybe we should be careful selecting the trial venue.

Montjoie

Godfrey

Posted by: Godfrey Boullion
>>>>

I AGREE!!

Let's sue the ASS off islam,, for threats of planning OUR genocide!!!

Put the frickin whole ?"religion?" on trial, they break every law,, in the Human Rights Commission,, so why do we the Infidels,, have to be abused by these primitives.

They are crazy to believe that mad mo,, is the perfect example of a human being. Let's put that fallacy to the harsh light of day,, in a public trial. Expose it for what it is,, point by point.

Force the politicians to watch the whole sorry affair.

boy that would be fun to watch,,

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at April 2, 2008 6:02 PM

>>They are crazy to believe that mad mo,, is the perfect example of a human being. --solsticewitch

So right. The irony is that Mo is one of the WORST examples of a human being.

As usual, everything is backwards in Islam.

Posted by: darcy at April 2, 2008 6:09 PM

The destruction of a Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur, the posthumous "conversion" of Hindus and Chinese to Islam, with their property then being inherited by a sole Muslim relative, but not by all their many Hindu or Chinese relatives, the disguised Jizyah of the Bumiputra system -- all these are practices that the government of Malaysia country ever more openly run of, by, and for Muslims only, should deal with before starting to worry about the Qur'anic excerpts in "Fitna" and the filmed behavior of Muslims echoing, or acting on, those Qur'anic excerpts.

The Muslim Malays, and the Malaysian government, may think we have learned nothing about how non-Muslims are being treated in Malaysia. They may think that Western companies will continue to build plants in Malaysia, unconcerned about the treatment of non-Muslims. Those Muslim Malays, and the government that represents only their interests, are quite wrong.

Posted by: Hugh at April 2, 2008 6:25 PM

As usual, everything is backwards in Islam.

Posted by: darcy

Hey Darcy! Ain't that the Truth! Now, every time I hear that Islam is a "religion of peace" I automatically think that the opposite is true, and anyone making this claim is pegged a liar in my book.

Islam should be called, "hallucinations from hell", as that would be more accurate.

Posted by: champ at April 2, 2008 6:56 PM

"Are there any 'Defeat Jihad' T-shirts?

I need one or two....
Posted by: sheik yer'mami "

Sheik,
there is quite a good selection here:
http://www.cafepress.com/ultimateinsult

I rather like the teddy bear,lol!

Posted by: Gramfan at April 2, 2008 7:11 PM

Robert asks, "Has the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) ever mounted any kind of protest against them?"

Um, no.

Posted by: Lex at April 2, 2008 8:57 PM

Yes! Mohammad the teddy bear has been spotted here

I think that he should make a cameo appearance in Fitna 2, but expect that Gillian Gibbons would probably just as soon be left out of the production.

We each do what we can.

Posted by: Lex at April 2, 2008 9:14 PM

The 'Mohammed bear' ...something cute and cuddly that turns nasty...remember the film "Gremlins"??? Maybe something could be done along those lines...?

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 3, 2008 12:03 AM

I can read Malay (Bahasa Melayu) and you might be interested to know that the slogan in the picture "Fitna adalah fitnah" translates as "Fitna is slander". How can you slander someone by merely showing exactly what they have said? Surely this is simply telling the truth; an inconvenient truth (at least for them).

Posted by: The Northumbrian at April 3, 2008 1:42 AM

I am sure Jane Austen had never met a Muslim in her life, but if you want a deliciously ruthless portrait of a master practitioner of the tactics that the Muslim world calls taqiyya and kitman, read Austen's early epistolary novel, 'Lady Susan'.

At the end, when the mistress of deceit is exposed, her co-conspirator declares in exasperation - "Facts are such horrid things!"

"Facts are such horrid things!!" Someone should use it as a newspaper headline to cover the reaction to 'Fitna' of both the jihadis and their dhimmi enablers.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 3, 2008 6:13 AM

is to me like Muslims do not want to look in the mirror at themselves recently I had a problem with a Muslim couple he was dressed in traditional middle eastern costume and she was wearing a full length Burka they demanded I get off the sidewalk and into the gutter in my wheelchair because as they put it they should not have to share the sidewalk with a dirty kufer sometimes I thinkthat Islam rots their brains and takes away all human decency

Posted by: crusader at April 3, 2008 12:16 PM

crusader -

That's terrible! I'm sorry that you were treated that way, but it isn't surprising given who we're talking about.

Where I live in Southern California you don't see many women wearing burkas. In fact, I have personally only seen ONE woman wearing a burka in my entire lifetime, and that "one time" was a VERY negative experience. I did not have a direct conversation with her like you did, but only saw something that she had done to what appeared to be her daughter in the parking lot to the supermarket that I frequent, and this one particular time, I was with my 17 year old son.

Just as this woman and her 10 year old daughter got to their car; this woman, who was wearing a full length, black burka, face particially covered - started beating this young girl upside the head! I mean it was shocking to see! And she wasn't just tapping her on the head, she was beating her on the head repeatedly!

I was with my son at the time, and he witnessed this assault also. We would have phoned the police, but they boarded their car and drove off rather quickly. That happened about two years ago, and it left a very real and very negative impression on both my son and myself that we will never forget!

Go figure - you and I have both had negative experiences with Muslims - I wonder why????

Take care!

Posted by: champ at April 3, 2008 2:49 PM

crusader

that IS awful.

They were treating you EXACTLY as the Hadith tell them to do.

First, here is Ibn Kathir expounding the meaning of 'subdued' in 9:29 -

"
(and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled."

'Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated.
Muslim [i.e. the Sahih Muslim Hadith collection]
recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said:


«لَا تَبْدَءُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى بِالسَّلَامِ، وَإِذَا لَقِيتُمْ أَحَدَهُمْ فِي طَرِيقٍ فَاضْطَرُّوهُ إِلَى أَضْيَقِه»


(Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.)

In the Pact of Omar, dhimmis are supposed to always give way to Muslims
"We shall show respect toward the Muslims, and we shall rise from our seats when 
they wish to sit".

I understand from reading Bat Yeor that in Islamised lands it was standard practice for Muslims to shove non-Muslims aside, against the wall or into the gutter.

Somebody please tell me the difference between Islam and an outlaw biker gang?

Any so-called religion that explicitly teaches its followers such aggressive contempt toward other human beings is itself unworthy of any respect from decent people.

Was there no-one else around to help you, 'Crusader'?

At some point, all such violent supremacism and petty bullying by Mohammedans on our own soil has GOT to be publicly confronted by the Infidels.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 3, 2008 6:01 PM

"Somebody please tell me the difference between Islam and an outlaw biker gang?"

One rides a Harley - and the other smokes crack.

Posted by: champ at April 3, 2008 6:32 PM