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April 4, 2008

Here we go again: Cambodian PM accuses media of linking Islam with terrorism

Cambodia? Send John Kerry to talk to this guy!

Anyway, here we are again: Hun Sen claims that the media makes this link, but as you can see yet again from the Al-Zawahri Q&A below, it is the Islamic jihadists who make this link. And in reality, the mainstream media has been notoriously reticent about exploring this link.

"Cambodian PM accuses media of linking Islam with terrorism," from ABC Radio Australia (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen has accused major media organisations like CNN and the BBC of unfairly linking terrorism to Islam.

He made the comments in an opening speech at a two-day international conference on interfaith cooperation for peace, being held in Phnom Penh.

Hun Sen said it is inaccurate to link the world's 1 billion Muslim population to acts committed by small numbers of people.

Certainly most are not committing these acts. But when the perpetrators commit them in the name of principles that the majority holds, and the majority does not move to stop them, it is legitimate to point that out.

He said when terrorism occurs in one place, a politician or the media will link it to Muslims as a whole.

When has any politician or media figure ever done this?

''Terrorism is terrorism. It has nothing related to religion,'' he said.

Except for the unfortunate fact that the terrorists say it does.

''Therefore, all politicians and media should change their attitudes in using any words relating to Islam.''

Sure thing, Hun. As soon as the Islamic terrorists do this, so will I.

He said the "biggest mistakes" had been made by major television networks such as America's CNN, Britain's BBC and TV5 of France.

...which makes me wonder what planet this guy lives on. CNN? The BBC? When has either one ever done anything but go out of its way to deny or downplay the link that the jihad terrorists make between Islam and terrorism.

Posted by Robert at April 4, 2008 12:01 AM
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We need to stop reporting terrorism. That’s what we must do. Bad CNN and BBC.

Posted by: Ruebacca [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:30 AM

Is he an Islamic apologist? Or has Islam infested Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam? Anyway, the BBC practically trips over itself to think up euphemisms for the words "Islam", "terrorist", (peace-challenged, there you go!)or to say anything derogatory. What cringing, neutered cowards the Brits have become. Hard to believe.God bless you, Mr Spencer, for all your tireless work.

Posted by: protozoah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:34 AM

Is he an Islamic apologist? Or has Islam infested Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam? Anyway, the BBC practically trips over itself to think up euphemisms for the words "Islam", "terrorist", (peace-challenged, there you go!)or to say anything derogatory. What cringing, neutered cowards the Brits have become. Hard to believe.God bless you, Mr Spencer, for all your tireless work.>>>>This is the first comment I've made in maybe a month, and now there's a notice that I've made too many in a short period of time.What gives?

Posted by: protozoah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:36 AM

I doubt that Islam has gotten as far as Cambodia, but Hun Sen is a Communist, and was part of both the Khmer Rouge, as well as the puppet Vietnam regime of Kampuchea. Therefore, it's no surprise that he should throw his lot with the Muslims, who are the successors to the Communists as far as the class envy department goes worldwide.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:38 AM

Is he an Islamic apologist? Or has Islam infested Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam? Anyway, the BBC practically trips over itself to think up euphemisms for the words "Islam", "terrorist", (peace-challenged, there you go!)or to say anything derogatory. What cringing, neutered cowards the Brits have become. Hard to believe.God bless you, Mr Spencer, for all your tireless work.>>>>This is the first comment I've made in maybe a month, and now there's a notice that I've made too many in a short period of time.What gives?

Maybe Islam has infested Cambodia & Vietnam? Or is the man just another ignorant apologist? LOL, he objects to the BBC and Cnn: they go out of their way to make nice to the headchoppers. The British Parliament is full of neutered cowards in Depends who quaver when they hear the words Islamic terrorists. And there are more than a few here at home in Washington.

Posted by: protozoah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:41 AM

Sorry for the multiple posts--I don't know what happened, first attempt was rejected.

The Communists slaughtered so many millions of people in the region in the 70s and the ones who survived have endured a life under communism for so long. A case of our leaders losing their guts and determination.

Posted by: protozoah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:49 AM

protozoah

He is a Communist. He didn't endure any life under Communism - he ran a Communist state, and runs the country today as the head of a democratically elected Communist government

Also, like 'do-as-I-say-but-not-as-I-do' Leftist hypocrites worldwide, he supports rights of gays and lesbians, but is taking legal steps to disinherit his adapted daughter because she's a Lesbian. By the same token, don't be surprised if he supports Islam in public, but opposes it within his own family.

In October, 2007, Hun Sen made a surprise announcement at a graduation ceremony in front of an audience of around 3,000 that his adopted daughter is lesbian. He explained that this was a personal struggle for him and while he had learned that it was OK to be gay, he could not accept this in his own family. As a result, he is taking legal steps to disown his adopted lesbian daughter and to prevent her from any entitlement to inheritance. Nonetheless, he asked the audience to accept gays and lesbians.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 1:17 AM

While searching for an article written by a jihadi that the Toilet paper Of India published today, I came across this gem by Shashi Tharoor. He has been reading up on a study done by Oxford, and is of the opinion that the jihad will stop if the course content for engineers (he mentions osama, ramzi yousef and khalid sheikh muhammad among "engineers") were 20% comprised of humanities. Just teach humanities to engineers, and the jihad will stop. Here is the article.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Why_some_engineers_become_terrorists/articleshow/2910478.cms

Whew ! What a relief !

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 5:03 AM

Has he never heard of the
British
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roadcasting
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aliphate!!!

Posted by: raz [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 5:49 AM

A dirty character, this Hun Sen.

A former Khmer Rouge soldier, one who quickly rose throung the ranks, close to Pol Pot and Ieng Sari. He is one who's got blood on his hands, but somehow got away, like so many other former Khmer Rouge killers who got away.

When he came to power in Cambodia a lot of those in the opposition were eliminated. Hun Sen is a despot, another primitive power polit-ape.

He wants to attract Arab investment, he likes to deal with Lybia's Gaddafi, what else? Every day in power is a good day for him. Things could be a lot worse...


Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 5:56 AM

"...but Hun Sen is a Communist, and was part of both the Khmer Rouge, as well as the puppet Vietnam regime of Kampuchea."

Well that's the Pol Pot calling the kettle black.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 9:26 AM

"He said the "biggest mistakes" had been made by major television networks such as America's CNN, Britain's BBC and TV5 of France."

CNN & BBC only refer to them as "Asian Men" or "youths" and Muslims are offended. So are we.

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 9:27 AM

Does anyone have a problem linking jihad to Islam?

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 9:57 AM

Shashi Tharoor, eh? The novelist, womanizer, and would-be U.N. Secretary-General, hoping to bestride the world like a colossus, that a little Shakespeare and Dickens will do the trick, perform on their own that mission civilisatrice that Muslims need? Well, why is it that non-Muslim engineers are apparently not in such great need of the civilizing and softening influence of a course of study that does not include "20% of the humanities"? And does he not know of others who were raised up on the Western humanities, and how, and yet once in thrall to the mental manacles of a total belief-system, those humanities meant nothing at all, were no check whatsoever? Think of the Nazis, think of the Soviet regime. Lenin was well-read. So what? Nazis bureacrats could listen, and be moved, by Bach and Brahms and Beethoven. So what?

It's the easy prescription, the one that avoids, of course, what Islam teaches, what effect Islam has on the minds of men, and the hold it has, on so many, and for so long, that even the apostates in the West have testified that it takes a very long time, a period of spiritual wrestling, to throw the whole thing off, and be free at last.

If Shashi Tharoor thinks that a 20% infusion of the "humanities" he is a very silly man. Which humanities? Literary study, which is now full of such words as "post-colonial" and "hegemonic" "discourse" or the real thing, the good old thing, the thing that might have possibly enlarged sympathies, rather than merely be a vehicle for expressing resentment, or claiming authenticity, or settling scores, or something that has nothing to do with the real "humane" in "humanities") will do it, he should ask himself why it is that all those articulate and brilliant apostates from Islam, with their numbers growing every day, while they agree that the de-mystifying of the Qur'an and the Hadith, a putting the former back into history, and the studing of the latter as obvious later fabrications, have never suggested the kind of 20% humanities panacea that smiling Shashi Tharoor so confidently does?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 10:05 AM

Sorry. (gulp) I sent my prose without the link.

Hugh~ Your point is well taken, but I think Sashee offers tincture, not panacea. That an engineering student should take 20% in the Humanities is a modest proposal. I googled around a bit at the Columbia School of Engineering, and found these requirements:

http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/bulletin/undergraduate_studies/undergrad_programs/index.html

(Scroll down to “Liberal Arts Core for SEAS Students: 27-Point Nontechnical Requirement”)

What’s the big deal?

Posted by: skevin [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:14 PM
While searching for an article written by a jihadi that the Toilet paper Of India published today
Arjun

Was this it? That article includes this gem:

Jehad means striving or struggling for any just and righteous cause and most emphatically, it does not mean war. The word occurs 41 times in the Qur'an and not once can it be construed to be an exhortation to war. Those familiar with the Urdu language will know that the term is used in daily life in conversation, for instance, when it is said that after considerable jadd-o-jehad one has been able to overcome some bad habit like smoking or drinking. But conceivably when a struggle has to be undertaken literally on a war footing in a just cause, the war becomes jehad, such as, for instance, the Palestinians are fighting to expel foreigners, who, with Anglo-American support, have usurped their land.
Somehow, Murshed mian just couldn't help himself in the end. And while he justifies the 'Palestinian struggle', Islamic apologists in the West would justify the jihad in Kashmir on pretty much the same grounds

OT, but revealing!

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:28 PM

Also, at the end, it says that Murshed was a former advisor to the J&K governor. No wonder that place is so f*&ked up!

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 12:30 PM

Well, big rip!!! The Kuran links Islam with terrorism, too!! NO? Then explain this quote:

"I have been made victorious through terror--" al-lah to Muhammad, in the Kuran.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 1:14 PM

Cambodian Muslims.

A background briefing.

Cambodia, according to my [Christian] source [from 2001], is 82.57 % Buddhist, 4.69 % 'Chinese' religion (i.e Confucian/ Taoist), 4.35 % 'traditional ethnic' [tribal animism], 1.19 % Christian (growing quite fast), 2.92 % 'nonreligious', a small quantity of Bahais and Hindus, and -

3.9 % Muslim, increasing at a guessed rate of 4.5 % (Christians are growing a bit faster - rough guess at 4.7 %, almost all of it by adult conversions).

The Muslims are almost entirely within a particular ethnic group, the Cham, who have "increased rapidly in numbers" [the article I cite below gives their % of the population as 5 %].

The CIA factbook mentions that the country is majority Buddhist but doesn't identify the various non-Buddhist faiths.

A little googling produced the following recent article from the Brunei Times
http://www.bt.com.bn/en/home_news/2008/03/24/cham_muslims_in_cambodia

(be aware that facts & figures in said article may not be 100 % reliable - Brunei is repressively Muslim & I am sure the usual tendency to boast/ lie applies) -

here's an excerpt:
"There are three distinct groups of Muslims in Cambodia: those who speak the Cham language (Chams); those who speak both Cham and Khmer (Jahed) and those who only speak Khmer (Chves) and are further divided into two main categories: the Sunni and the Fojihed.
The former category is for those often regarded as "traditional Muslims" who conform and abide by the Syariah Law and pray five times a day while the latter is for those "traditional Chams" who practise the ancient interpretation of the religion.

"Neighbouring countries play a part in shaping the Sunni Muslims of Cambodia. Malaysia, being the most influential, is the preferred place for young Cambodian Muslims to further their studies. In February this year, 19 Muslims were awarded scholarships to study Bachelor and Master degrees sponsored by the Al-Manar Islamic College in Malaysia."

Another of my sources noted that the Cham, a Malay-related people, originally Hindu and Buddhist, practised folk Islam until recently when Wahabbi and other da'wa artists began circulating.

I suspect that Hun Sen may be trying to curry favour with the wealthy Sultan of Brunei who - to judge from the Brunei Times article I linked - sounds like he is carrying out 'money jihad' toward dirt-poor and corrupt Cambodia.


Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 4, 2008 9:11 PM

Infidel Pride,
Yes, that is the one. Thanks. The Toilet paper Of India seems to be flooded with stupid articles lately. jihadis write any balderdash and they publish it. However, I was pleasantly surprised to see that they are carrying such comments in response to this.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/2924106.cms

The first response is by a jihadi. But the other two are by enlightened Infidels.

*Sorry about the late reply, I returned from a project just a few days back, and am just beginning to catch up with things online and offline. JW seems to be having posting problems again. This is the third time I am writing this in the last hour, and hopefully this time it will come up.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 5, 2008 4:04 AM

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