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Would such attacks really please Allah? Western Muslim spokesmen would say no. But what are they doing to convince people like Kafeel Ahmed that their view of Islam is wrong? Nothing, of course -- and the question itself is "Islamophobic," now, isn't it?
"Muslim doctor plotted terror attacks in London and Glasgow," by Adam Fresco for the Times (thanks to all who sent this in):
A Muslim doctor who died after a failed terror attack on Glasgow airport had plotted a campaign of “spectacular” terrorist car bomb attacks designed to devastate Britain, a court heard today.Kafeel Ahmed, 28, had targeted city nightclubs with explosives made at his home in Glasgow before turning his attention to the airport on its busiest day of the year.
Two car bombs left near nightclubs in the West End of London at the end of June last year had failed to explode when activated by mobile phone.
The next day, knowing the police were closing in, Ahmed launched the airport suicide mission and drove another car bomb into Glasgow Airport.
Driving a Jeep Cherokee he aimed for the entrance doors but crashed into the pillars to the right of them, the Old Bailey heard.
Jonathan Laidlaw, for the prosecution, said: “He then, having found himself from his perspective out of position, reversed the Jeep and made the first of a number of attempts to drive the vehicle through the airport door, repeatedly hitting pillars and the door frame.
“Despite his efforts, the vehicle became trapped. Those who witnessed him described a set and determined face as he stared forward.
“At that point, the vehicle was then 20ft from passengers queuing within the terminal building.
“His passenger lowered his window and threw a petrol bomb across the bonnet in the direction of the taxi rank and then threw a second of these devices in the opposite direction.
“At the same time the driver, the defendant’s brother, began to pour and splash fuel from a can on to the area outside the car window and appeared to throw a petrol bomb.
“He got out of the vehicle and was engulfed in flames that swept around the Jeep and terminal building. He appeared to try and prevent others from getting to him or the vehicle. He kicked out but eventually, he being on fire, he was extinguished, subdued, handcuffed and arrested.”
Full details of the terror plot emerged for the first time today after Kafeel’s brother Dr Sabeel Ahmed, 26, an NHS doctor, admitted failing to disclose information to police after the attacks.
He had received an e-mail about them from his brother but failed to go to police after hearing about the incident in Glasgow.
He was sentenced to 18 months in jail but will be released from custody and voluntarily deported back to India almost immediately because of time in jail he has already served, the court was told.
The e-mail, written two days before the failed Glasgow bomb attack, directed him to online documents containing his will and instructions on how to frustrate and mislead investigators.
Part of it read: “This is a project I was working on for some time now. Everything else was a lie and I hope you can forgive me for being such a good liar. It was necessary, just so that you know.
“Everything since last week was executed by me and my team. This is confidential on behalf of our Emir.”
He added: “It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”...
Posted by Robert at April 11, 2008 3:51 PM
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“It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah"
Brillant idea. As long as you do it in your basement.
Posted by: FreeSpeech
at April 11, 2008 4:01 PM
"Would such attacks really please Allah?"
Since Allah is a fiction, There's really no one to please.
Even dying for a cause might be justified, but jiadist suicides are a complete waste.
Posted by: rational
at April 11, 2008 4:08 PM
Ok........you first.
Posted by: alaskan1000
at April 11, 2008 4:16 PM
He was sentenced to 18 months in jail but will be released from custody and voluntarily deported back to India almost immediately because of time in jail he has already served, the court was told.
People of India need to be on alert. I trust this man will lose his license to practice medicine?
Posted by: PMK
at April 11, 2008 4:17 PM
zakariyyaazzam
That moniker actually makes far more sense than your post above. Take a deep breath..maybe another slow toke from your hooka and try again to make your case. I don't think I agree with a word but it's hard to tell actually.
Posted by: pismopal
at April 11, 2008 4:28 PM
I placed the term Islam in my handy dandy newfangled translation engine and got this:
Islam - an absurd system of halucinations, rantings, musings, and violent prurient silliness invented by a mooncalf for the sake of jabbernowls.
Wow! I'm not sure I'm much clearer on the subject than I was before I started, but I think I catch the drift.
Posted by: jsla
at April 11, 2008 4:49 PM
"Everything else was a lie and I hope you can forgive me for being such a good liar. It was necessary, just so that you know."
Sipping the usual shot of al-Taqiyya eh, Liar Ahmed? What a nihilistic belief system, psychoticly magical moon god and all.
...and hey there zakariyyaazzam,
Stick to current day quotes from living Catholics who espouse violence in the name of God...that is, (chuckling)if you can find living Catholic terrorists and the priests who support them bible and verse.
Posted by: Quantum Infidel
at April 11, 2008 4:53 PM
I could say a lot of things about this story but, in an effort to say something positive, I will limit myself to this:
Bollards !
Yes, we are often told how interminably expensive security is, but we should not neglect simple physical obstacles which can prevent terrorists, especially stupid ones, from achieving their objectives.
Just as a fuel-soaked vehicle is a simple but effective weapon for a terrorist, so lumps of concrete, iron, sand-filled plastic, etc are simple but effective defences. Together with "Traffic-calming" systems such as speed-bumps, they can make it extremely difficult for terrorists to launch Glasgow-style attacks.
So, get your bollards today !
at April 11, 2008 5:09 PM
Zak dude,
My, my how fatalistic your Latin is...they don't call it a dead language for nothing.
...and now back to a story about an idiot, a bunch of petrol, his imaginary god, handcuffs and a bad case of the 3rd degree bar-b-ques.
Posted by: Quantum Infidel
at April 11, 2008 5:20 PM
"He added: “It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”..."
Pity all of this violence for a pagan moon deity that doesn't exist. Hi Zak! You worship a rock idol that doesn't exist! LOL!
Posted by: darcy
at April 11, 2008 5:29 PM
Top ten apologist responses:
10) Criminals are criminals and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
9) We condemn all attacks against innocent civilians. Muslim leaders have said this over and over. We'll say it again if you'd like.
8) You're just like the Jihadists, saying Islam calls for terror against the non-believers.
7) Extremism is extremism, whether it's Jewish, Christian, or Islamic. We should be fighting extremism.
6) I am a peaceful Muslim and can give you a peaceful interpretation of every verse in the Qur'an -- and every Hadith too (or demonstrate why any non-peaceful Hadith is not legitimate). Since Islam is therefore peaceful, why should I be responsible for the murderous criminals in my community? I don't hold you responsible for Timothy McVeigh's crimes. (Hat tip to Ali Eteraz.)
5) Islam says that kiling an innocent is like killing all of man kind.
4) Islam has a long history of being tolerant to non-Muslims. Christians killed lots of Jews during the Inquisition.
3) Jihad means "struggle," and it can also mean self-defense in case Muslims are oppressed, persecuted, or attacked. Wouldn't any nation defend itself if attacked?
2) 93% of the Muslim world is moderate because they don't feel the 9/11 attacks were "completely justified." (http://sandbox.blog-city.com/dr_esposito_and_the_seven_percent_solution.htm)
And the number one response...
1) I S L A M O P H O B E !
Posted by: kamala
at April 11, 2008 5:47 PM
You guys saying this won't please Allah because he's not real... I disagree.
Allah _is_ real. He has other names too, like Satan and Beezlebub. And he's probably very pleased to see his minions (AKA devout muslims) die and kill in his service.
Posted by: Tapper
at April 11, 2008 5:54 PM
>>Allah _is_ real. He has other names too, like Satan and Beezlebub.-- Tapper
Don't forget "Lord of the Flies" and "Father of Lies."
Posted by: darcy
at April 11, 2008 6:02 PM
What a shame! A doctor that spent years learning to heal people actually wanted to injure them. What a schizophrenic mind.
Posted by: Nobody
at April 11, 2008 6:02 PM
Nobody
Those Doctors are not schizo they are brainwashed and possessed and more dangerous that the 7 11 or convenient store dude who is waiting for the order.
Those Doctors are leaders and they are the brain power of terrorism
Years before Sept 11 . I was sitting in a Muslim meeting . The speaker a hihgly respected surgeon who was employed and well paid by a catholic hospital was giving a speech . and these are his words. " I cannot wait for the day when children in this country will say Happy Eid and NO MORE Merry Christmas. "
Sad but true.
Posted by: Tartine
at April 11, 2008 6:14 PM
Nobody
Those Doctors are not schizo they are brainwashed and possessed and more dangerous that the 7 11 or convenient store dude who is waiting for the order.
Those Doctors are leaders and they are the brain power of terrorism
Years before Sept 11 . I was sitting in a Muslim meeting . The speaker a hihgly respected surgeon who was employed and well paid by a catholic hospital was giving a speech . and these are his words. " I cannot wait for the day when children in this country will say Happy Eid and NO MORE Merry Christmas. "
Sad but true.
Posted by: Tartine
at April 11, 2008 6:15 PM
“It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah"
A Muslim after saying this would start a killing spree.
Replace Allah by God and you have a Christian motto.
A Christian after saying this would get Christ's sword and sever him from sin and try to follow a charitable life.
Posted by: calatrava
at April 11, 2008 6:25 PM
Let us set aside mocking and sneering and ask the Muslim to explain how can God, who made the world and loves man as the crowning achievement of his creation, be impressed by any person giving up his life and destroying others for His sake? A god who divides the world thus, between war and submission, is a tormentor who hates man.
Posted by: Robin Starveling
at April 11, 2008 6:32 PM
For those like J Carter who believe if we are all only reasonable everything can be solved, it's time to put aside the COLOSSAL ARROGANCE that everyone is like us, and do the respect of taking men seriously whether we think they are insane or not.
These are very serious individuals who will say and do anything required.
That's all there is.
The reason we have to be told and showed over and over is our OWN CULTURAL ARROGANCE
They are simply not like us. They have other beliefs. They have other values. They have other responsibilities.
Posted by: epaminondas
at April 11, 2008 6:37 PM
No matter how plainly these jihadomaniacs state their position, many refuse to believe them. I am constantly amazed at that kind of idiocy--the kind of idiocy that allows people to disregard the words of the enemy.
Posted by: Always On Watch
at April 11, 2008 6:50 PM
“It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”
Ha Ha! I thought you had already given up your life for Allah the moment you became a Muslim, so the clocks been tickin' away for quite some time already. No life in Islam, only death for all, and hope for none. Sad face....
Posted by: champ
at April 11, 2008 7:15 PM
Jesus spoke quite plain about Allah and the murder cult...
"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."
John 8:44
at April 11, 2008 7:20 PM
They are simply not like us. They have other beliefs. They have other values. They have other responsibilities.
epaminondas,
Truer words were never written. However, what you call cultural arrogance, I call giving people the benefit of the doubt. We understand they are different but we tried not to let those differences keep us from coexisting. We keep thinking they are goodhearted people who want only to have a life. We're shown every day just how wrong we are.
They most definitely are NOT like us. They crave death. They seek it. They worship it. Their beliefs, values and responsibilities make them a danger to each and every one of us and it's time we accepted that.
Read the headline on this story. "It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah".
The doctor who said that isn't speaking only about himself and his family. He wants to take you and a lot of other people with him.
I would say the cultural arrogance is on HIS side. He is the one who wants the whole world to conform to his belief system. What makes the Arab culture so superior, anyway? Talk about arrogance!
at April 11, 2008 7:51 PM
“It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”...
Well, is Allah pleased with you now, Kafeel, even though you only managed to kill yourself and not a single stinking kuffar?
If the WTC carnage level is the standard, then it's clear that your botched attempts were nowhere close to "spectacular" enough to satisfy Allah's exacting demands. It's just too damned bad that you'll never have another shot at glory. How does it feel to be an eternal loser?
Related question for epaminondas: I catch your drift, but how can sane and intelligent people even pretend to believe that this Islamic impulse to commit murder proceeds from a God who is also hailed as All Merciful? It sounds kind of schizophrenic to me...
Posted by: Lex
at April 11, 2008 8:08 PM
Update:
UK terror plot: Sabeel Ahmed gets 18-month term
A slap on the wrist for this jihad ape. What does that tell you?
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/apr/11glasgow1.htm
at April 11, 2008 8:17 PM
Another dirty little commie 'artist' who smears Christianity, but wouldn't dream of doing anything like that about Muhammad:
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at April 11, 2008 8:33 PM
zakariyyaazzam
Try copying some more latin quotes for your posts, very impressive. Your english phrases make no sense whatsoever. If you want to be original make them in Arabic which is probably your native language.
at April 11, 2008 8:49 PM
Reading this doctor's account of his motives merely adds one more exhibit to the case against Islam for being a religion of violence and madness. The fact is, like it or not, Islam is on trial for murder and mayhem, and try as it might, the defense is losing. Hardly a day passes without some damning bit of evidence in the news.
Let the rationalizers try and explain it all away, but one bomb is worth 10,000 words.
at April 11, 2008 9:12 PM
Hey Zal,
You had to go back to a sermon in 1146 to validate your bias? We can go back ten minutes to the last time one of your psychotic ummah drones threatened or actually harmed someone in the name of allah, the pervert.
That's hilarious!
Peace
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at April 11, 2008 9:32 PM
So tell us more about that anti-Islamic movement were reading so much about Mrs Jaqui Smith.
Posted by: OLDEngland
at April 11, 2008 10:39 PM
Why are they deporting this islamic animal to India? He should be sent to Najistan.. Pakistan.. I hear Nazeem is looking for a husband.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah
at April 11, 2008 10:53 PM
And here in Australia the nutroots are still weeping crocodile tears over the deportation of doctor Haneef, the gold Coast doctor who was heavily involved and related to these jihad freaks in Glasgow.
Unbelievable!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at April 11, 2008 11:05 PM
"He added: “It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”...
--
I wish all moslems worldwide would do it at exactly the same time..
..aaahhh.. the PEACE and QUIET that would follow...
Posted by: Ummah Gummah
at April 12, 2008 2:49 AM
and I thought a doctors goals in life was to improve the quality of life, treat the sick and diseased, mend the injured, and to find new cures for the medical afflictions that attack mankind...
apparently Muslim doctors think differently
Posted by: pulsar182
at April 12, 2008 3:16 AM
So zakariyyaazzam has to go all the way back to 1146 in his attempts to justify planned terrorist attacks in 2007. Of course, his barbaric brain is 850 years behind the West - a West he presumably lives in and exploits for his own good, becausde he wouldn't have anything in a typically Islamic country. Why on earth do we need medieval savages like him here?
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683
at April 12, 2008 3:31 AM
And here in Australia the nutroots are still weeping crocodile tears over the deportation of doctor Haneef, the gold Coast doctor who was heavily involved and related to these jihad freaks in Glasgow.
Unbelievable!
Sheikhyermani, you must have got that wrong. Weeping crocodile tears would be a sign that the nutroots AREN'T sorry to see the back of Doctor Haneef. And if the West is to survive, it has to shed crocodile tears by the bucketload
when Jihadists get blown up. I do.
at April 12, 2008 3:37 AM
""He added: “It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”...
...and to prove it, we have honor killings...
Posted by: pulsar182
at April 12, 2008 3:53 AM
....and stonings, beheadings,hangings, torture,amputations,and rape of our people by our people for every perceived injustice of Islam
Posted by: pulsar182
at April 12, 2008 3:56 AM
I really, really need the Pope to speak of Islamic savagery when he speaks at the United Nations next week.
Posted by: Bingo
at April 12, 2008 6:06 AM
Bingo,
Benedict XVI will surely use the occasion to speak of freedom of conscience and association. He may even demand to know of his Islamic listeners how they reconcile Qur'an 2:256
"There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing."with
Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57: Narrated 'Ikrima: "Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
Go for it, Pope Ben! Make the Islamoclerics have to defend the "divinely revealed" principle of abrogation, and the current designation of apostasy as a capital offense in much of Dar al Islam.
"You can't check out any time you like, and you can never leave." ~apologies to The Eagles, Hotel California
at April 12, 2008 7:39 AM
Who in the right mind would not be afraid of Islam. I mean look at it. It is constant warfare. Constant violence and constantly take and take. There is no giving. And what ever is given is just more of the same violence, deception and lies.
Posted by: savsiv
at April 12, 2008 12:07 PM
Hindu anti-islamist colleagues in India tell me that at least 20 muslim jihadists enter Britain every year, medically trained and entering the health services.
Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England
at April 12, 2008 3:59 PM
Lex- I sure hope you're right. Islamic violence is the big issue on the table right now, and the Pope needs to address it head on.
Posted by: Bingo
at April 13, 2008 7:08 AM
" He added: “It’s about time that we give up our lives and our families for the sake of Islam to please Allah.”... "
== == == == ==
I don't mind if they and their families choose to die for the pleasure of Allah. I DO mind when they want ME or MY FAMILY or MY FRIENDS or MY COUNTRYMEN to die for that bloody-ghoul "god".
The more I understand about Islam, the clearer it becomes that everything about it is 1984-speak: War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Allah is God the Creator. Islam is the Highest Good.
Allah is the OPPOSITE of everything the West understands about the nature of God. Islam is the OPPOSITE of everything the West understands to be the nature of religion.
Reminds me of "He Who Must Not Be Named" in the Harry Potter stories. THAT's who/what Islam worships; THAT's what Islam wants to establish on our beautiful Earth.
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse
at April 14, 2008 12:50 AM
... but will be released from custody and voluntarily deported back to India ...
Our EU-imposed human rights laws mean that we can only deport foreign criminals if they agree to go voluntarily. The murderer Learco Chindamo cannot be deported because it would "breach his right to a family life".
This is utter insanity - but that's what you get if you vote New Labour.
Posted by: watling
at April 14, 2008 5:04 AM
“Everything since last week was executed by me and my team. This is confidential on behalf of our Emir.”
Who is their Emir???
Posted by: liander1
at April 14, 2008 12:34 PM
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