He may have ties or it may be that everyone has connections to the same network. The same people that enable al Qaeda to operate within the US could be assisting the honor murderer and others like him. We may find that there are no more than a few degrees of separation between most Muslims in the US and al Qaeda. Everyone knows someone who knows someone, etc. The Muslim community remains relatively small, so the networks should be fairly cohesive. Those who approve of honor killings have to be, at the very least, al Qaeda sympathizers.

Posted by: PMK at April 24, 2008 4:05 PM

I wonder if he has any ties with Riad Hamad, who was recently found in our lake, mouth covered with duct tape and bound hands and legs that were apparently done by himself.

Or he was murdered by a Zionist hit squad according to the moonbats who claim he was a man of peace, and that he was shot in the head, as his brain wasn't there after the autopsy, and the local police had the nerve to conduct one over the wishes of his religion! (They forgot to contact the local mosque. Gee, I didn't realize that Muslims had to look a certain way, or carry some kind of ID that says "Muslim" in order for a mosque to be called in before an autopsy). Same moonbats are positive that the Zionists and neo-cons are responsible for 9/11, no matter what Al-Qeida #2-du-jour says.

Posted by: V.I.N.C.E.N.T. at April 24, 2008 4:07 PM

And all you pinheads still don't think we should deport all muslims? Is this the freakin' culture you want?

Posted by: mike trivisonno at April 24, 2008 4:12 PM

Pamela writes at AtlasShrugs: "Rafia Zakaria, an American Muslim woman starting a legal defense fund for battered Muslim women..."

I've got something in the works at my blog as well ~ under the heading "If you're a scared Muslim girl."

Let's get in the fight, unerschrocken.

Posted by: undaunted at April 24, 2008 4:50 PM

Does it really matter? Al-Qaeda is just one of the many Islamic organizations that are involved in Jihadi and Islamist campaigns. Sometimes they coordinate their plans and sometimes they don't, but the overall objective is the same. Most of the so called peaceful muslims, or cultural muslims, or non-violent muslims on this planet will not do enough (or don't have enough numbers willing) to stop the so called violent muslims from achieving their goals.

The muslim community killed these girls...

Said is no different from some Al-Qaeda groupie living in a cave in Pakistan, or some Arabian Sheik, or some Iraqi Imam..Same Goals..Same Values..Same Culture..

I wonder how many people in the west get this? We are not fighting this group or that group, this dictator or that dictator, but a people with a set of values that are different then our own. People don't want to admit that. It would mean realllllly hard choices unlike anything we have had to make in our lifetime.

Instead we get silly half measures (Homeland Security), half battles with no obtainable objectives (Iraq), half friends (Arabians)and most of all half citizens (Mr. Said)...

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at April 24, 2008 5:47 PM

kinda reminds of those film clips of a deadly virus multiplying on a petri dish while being viewed under a microscope...one germ becomes two, two become four, four become eight, eight become
sixteen...and so on...

so goes the tenacles of Islam, creeping into every corner of the free world...

if left unchecked the host will die.

Posted by: pulsar182 at April 24, 2008 5:49 PM

>>We are not fighting this group or that group, this dictator or that dictator, but a people with a set of values that are different then our own. People don't want to admit that. It would mean realllllly hard choices unlike anything we have had to make in our lifetime." --greatcometof1577

What's hard about it? Of course Islamists have "different values" than ours. That's completely obvious, not only from current events since and including 9/11, but also from the Qur'an.

It's also not hard to admit that Nazis have "different values" than ours. That's completely obvious, not only from events of the 1930's, but from Mein Kampf.

Hello. Which brand of toilet paper to buy is a "harder choice" to make than fighting this group of people, Islamists. Or Nazis. I have no problem "admitting" that, at all. In fact, it's a no-brainer. Why do you think I sport a "DEFEAT JIHAD" sticker on my vehicle?

Now, should I buy Charmin or Cottonelle? That's a hard choice to make.

Posted by: darcy at April 24, 2008 6:26 PM

Now, should I buy Charmin or Cottonelle? That's a hard choice to make.
Posted by: darcy

Which ever you choose, I would suggest you stock up along with other necessities of life. It's going to get worse before it gets better (IMHO).

Posted by: walterc at April 24, 2008 6:52 PM

darcy

When I say hard choices, I mean as a population at large...

(1) Do you think Americans are willing to change our energy policy? To suffer in the short term for the long term gain?

(2) Do you think American are ready for a real war (like WWII), not the joke called Iraq. A war with no limits?

(3) Do you think Americans are willing to take the time to understand Islam. To view it not just as a religion, but as a political system, and the enemy of western civilization on a personal level?

(4) To close immigration to muslims?

You see if you admit that Islam is a real threat then all these things must occur. A oil shortage, finding new energy supplies, a world war, etc etc...

I have accepted it, but that does not mean many other Americans do. They will one day, but lots of non-muslims will have to die to get to that point.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at April 24, 2008 7:43 PM

I understand that the Muslim community has started a defense fund for the father and that his lawyer is trying to use justification for his defense. I wish I could remember where I saw this to post it.

What type of justification would it be to kill your own kids? That you didn't like the fact that they have learned to think for themselves and reject the 7th Century? That they wouldn't be good little Jihadists and follow their father's wishes?

These young women had the right to grow into beautiful adults and this creature of a parent (to call him a father insults all the great men who are fathers) destroyed that. He deserves the Death Penalty.

Posted by: Mystical Time Traveler at April 24, 2008 8:08 PM

"Amina and Sarah Said are the Texas girls who were murdered by their father, Yaser Said, in what appears to have been a double honor killing."

With a father whose name is Yaser (as in Arafat) Said (as in Edward Said) the girls never had a chance.

Posted by: scribe10 at April 24, 2008 8:18 PM

2 Timothy 3
Perilous Times and Perilous Men
1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at April 24, 2008 9:42 PM

Would there be more out there??? Having may be committed the same crime and walking around freely. Mingling only between other Muslims, who did not want or be to afraid to talk about a crime what had been committed. If they have the same value and believe, they might just let it go.
How many girls do we have here in the USA, who would like to get away, but don't know how to make an escape. Should there be safe houses for them???

Posted by: Maria at April 25, 2008 1:23 AM

Would there be more out there??? Having may be committed the same crime and walking around freely. Mingling only between other Muslims, who did not want or be to afraid to talk about a crime what had been committed. If they have the same value and believe, they might just let it go.
How many girls do we have here in the USA, who would like to get away, but don't know how to make an escape. Should there be safe houses for them???

Posted by: Maria at April 25, 2008 1:23 AM

"To close immigration to muslims?"

That's what we need to do. Close down all mosques and Islam centers in the USA, disallow them from entering the nation, deport the ones here, back to Mecca.

Posted by: abad at April 25, 2008 2:44 AM

Truly appalling.
This happens here in the UK probably far more frequently. The one bonus you have, certainly in Texas, is that when, and I DO hope when, the "father" of these girls is captured one thing is certain.
His days of jihad or whatever else, will very soon be over.
Unlike here in the UK, where the taxpayers will have to pay the cost of his imprisonment for a few short years before his untimely release, in Texas he will be dealt with in the manner that murderous vermin is normally dealt with.
He will never trouble anyone else again.

Posted by: Defender of The Realm at April 25, 2008 6:51 AM

All these connections involving Yaser Said remind me of a giant sticky spider's web, presided over by the ugliest, hairiest, most evil spider of all, Old Mo.

Greatcomet, I agree that the muslim community killed these girls, but I would go a step further and say, ISLAM killed them.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at April 25, 2008 7:57 AM

Greatcometof1577:
“Does it really matter? Al-Qaeda is just one of the many Islamic organizations that are involved in Jihadi and Islamist campaigns.”

I am completely with you and totally convinced that “Al-Qaeda” is simply a smokescreen for a much more deadly enemy: Islam - antecedent of all human decency & civilization. It is no more difficult or complicated than that and the sooner that we all come to grips with this uncomfortable fact the better. It was surely this belief system and its resultant cultural spawn that poisoned Yassar Said’s small brain and caused him to brutally murder his two precious & gifted daughters: Amina & Sarah.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at April 25, 2008 8:06 AM

Excellent podcast, heartbreaking to listen to.

It notes this case has disappeared from the media. The same thing has happened in Canada, where the Aqsa Parvez murder is under a court-imposed publication ban. If her father wasn't a muslim, would there be a publication ban? The last article I can find is dated December 14th. What's been going on for the past four months?

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at April 25, 2008 8:30 AM

abad

I am not for deporting muslims, but for severe restrictions on the practice of Islam. No more Islamist propaganda groups like CAIR for example. I should also say that the ban on muslim immigration would not affect those who leave Islam and want asylum in the USA. If their story checks out..then they can get in. We did that in the Cold War as well by letting in Russians who fled the communist system.

The simple truth is the muslims already here are here. We have to accept that, however, we can do all in our power to move them away from the faith. These two girls moved away from the culture. If they can so can others. The key is for us non-muslims to protect them when they need it.

Stop muslim immigration, liberate the ones here who are willing to be liberated, and slowly Islam in America will be no more then a very small group of nuts living on some compound in the midwest...a danger, but a minor one.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at April 25, 2008 9:01 AM

greatcometo1577: "Does it really matter? Al-Qaeda is just one of the many Islamic organizations that are involved in Jihadi and Islamist campaigns. Sometimes they coordinate their plans and sometimes they don't, but the overall objective is the same. Most of the so called peaceful muslims, or cultural muslims, or non-violent muslims on this planet will not do enough (or don't have enough numbers willing) to stop the so called violent muslims from achieving their goals."

Finally someone got it right: We are (or should be) fighting a grotesque, primitive culture that embraces honor killing, stoning women who have been raped in the name of "honor," murdering children for "honor," forced marriage of children which amounts to pederasty, the chopping off of limbs for what amounts to minor crimes, . . . On and on.

Those who commit these and other obscenities in the name of Allah and those who profess faith in Islam but are passive stander bys at such events are cut from the same block of wood. It is not a peaceful religion. And to remain passive in the face of violence or in the face of a culture that embraces violence does not a peaceful Muslim make.

Posted by: lo3 at April 25, 2008 2:38 PM