But didn't the Iranians have an international conference to show the world that the holocaust didn't happen? Boy, Ahmanutjob isn't going to like this.

Posted by: walterc at April 30, 2008 11:11 AM

I wonder if Jimmy carter got to see that program. Maybe he was the resource/reference that Hamas used for this.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at April 30, 2008 11:19 AM

UWisconsin's resident Hamasshole, Wasim Salman today;

...By prohibiting American aid and contact with Hamas, the AIPAC is ensuring the Palestinian crisis will never be solved. If the United States were to donate and open resources to the Palestinians in Gaza who reside under Hamas, this would create internal pressure on the Hamas government to change its stance on both Israel and the United States.

Posted by: Terp Mole at April 30, 2008 11:23 AM

So the Holocaust did occur, BUT the Jews planned it so that the Nazis would kill millions of Jews so they (the Jews) could "make "the Jews seem persecuted" so they could "benefit from international sympathy."" That makes no sense. Not that reason is being used here.

Okay - nice to know that the Holocaust actually happened, but what about that Armenian Holocaust? Did it happen or was it planned by the Armenians?

Posted by: tanstaafl at April 30, 2008 11:23 AM

tanstaafl

Next time Iran hosts a Holocaust denial conference, you think they might invite these clowns to state their views? Wonder how David Duke or Louis Farrakhan or Jeremiah Wright might respond?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 30, 2008 11:30 AM

blood libel: Israel planned the Holocaust to kill handicapped Jews

Typical obscene PROJECTION from devout followers of the Meshugga (insane) Prophet. . . NEVER FORGET QANA

Posted by: justamomof4 at April 30, 2008 12:09 PM

Can someone clarify something for me?

Did the disabled and handicapped Jews that were killed, as well as their Jewish family members, have a hand in formulating this conspiracy? After all, we are all quite aware of Jewish tendencies towards celebrating martyrdom/suicide.

Posted by: Vincienzo at April 30, 2008 12:10 PM

I love this Hamas revisionist history. It's like Hamas thinks the rest of the world will find their moonbat theories plausible simply because they do.

It's like the toddler who closes his eyes when he's about to get caught for something-- "If I can't see Daddy, he can't see me!"

Posted by: Marissa at April 30, 2008 12:17 PM

At what point will the world look at the charges made by Hamas and decide this group is unworthy of sitting at the same table with civilized people? (Can you hear me, Barack? These are the "enemies" you would negotiate with.)

Posted by: PMK at April 30, 2008 12:29 PM

Like walterc, I was under the (apparently false) impression that the jihadi world didn't think the Holocaust ever happened.

Silly me.

It's also worth remembering a stat from Mark Steyn's book, "America Alone" (paraphrasing):

"The average age of those who live in the Gaza strip is 15.8. Any plan for "peace" that does not take that into account is doomed to failure."

We're dealing with a bunch of poor, out-of-work, uneducated, raging hormone teenagers with My-Space accounts and guns. There is nothing to make sense of here. And Jimmuh Carter is just as much an idiot as they are.

Posted by: madconductor at April 30, 2008 12:47 PM

Like walterc, I was under the (apparently false) impression that the jihadi world didn't think the Holocaust ever happened.

Silly me.

It's also worth remembering a stat from Mark Steyn's book, "America Alone" (paraphrasing):

"The average age of those who live in the Gaza strip is 15.8. Any plan for "peace" that does not take that into account is doomed to failure."

We're dealing with a bunch of poor, out-of-work, uneducated, raging hormone teenagers with My-Space accounts and guns. There is nothing to make sense of here. And Jimmuh Carter is just as much an idiot as they are.

Posted by: madconductor at April 30, 2008 12:48 PM

And what about the imperialist pigs in the United States that conspired to kill Americans sitting in their nice ships the morning of Dec 7, 1941? We all know it was a conspiracy hatched by Stalin and FDR in order to steal land in Europe by creating a false war against Germany! Only Christians would attack on a Sunday morning!

/sarc off

The worst part of this is that there is an increasing # of people in the world that believe this and these:

1) That Al-Qeida didn't pull off 9/11, it was Bush and the Jooooooos.
2) There are Israeli hit squads in the US right now, and once they've killed all the Muslims, they'll be going for the Christians.
3) That Israel has always been the aggressor in the Middle East, and stole all the land.

Posted by: V.I.N.C.E.N.T. at April 30, 2008 1:01 PM

Hamas is suffering from Foot in Mouth disease. Whenever they open their mouths, they insert their feet.

Posted by: Mystical Time Traveler at April 30, 2008 1:03 PM

Virtually all conspiracy theories are pathetic and evidence of people with way too much time on their hands, but this one from Hamas is extra rich in stupidity, hatefulness and desperation.

Posted by: Wellington at April 30, 2008 1:49 PM

Wow, I need to start making up my own conspiracy theories...

Palestinians secretly orchestrated the re-establishment of Israel in 1948 so they could have a target for their bombs other than fellow Muslims. By having a common enemy, they can strengthen the bonds of Muslims abroad and garner international sympathy.

Well, that last sentence isn't so much a theroy as it is reality.

Posted by: Grafted at April 30, 2008 2:42 PM

Wow, I need to start making up my own conspiracy theories...

The Palestinians secretly orchestrated the re-establishment of Israel in 1948 to have a target for their terror other than fellow Muslims. By having a common enemy, they strengthen the bonds of Muslims abroad and garner international sympathy.

Well, that last part isn't so much theory as it is reality.

Posted by: Grafted at April 30, 2008 2:45 PM

Justamomof4: Excellent find...thanks for posting it here. If one ever wonders what new horrific depravities these asswipes have conjured, they are only too happy to tell you about them sooner or later.... and always projected on the jooooze.

Posted by: Infidel33 at April 30, 2008 3:16 PM

These guys are the masters of projection. Jesus got it first with the mote and the beam observation and then Freud followed that insight up nicely with his 'projection' listed as one of the neurotic defence mechanisms. Both Jews too. Takes a Jew to grapple with this stuff.
The interesting question is what are these psychos defending themselves against with their relentless projection and demonisation of the other.

Posted by: johndoe at April 30, 2008 3:47 PM

2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make "the Jews seem persecuted" so they could "benefit from international sympathy."

That second goal -- making a group seem persecuted in order to benefit from international sympathy -- is one that Islamic groups in the U.S. and elsewhere have adopted for themselves, and they pursue it quite skillfully.

Yes, that second goal is one that not only Islamic groups use, it is also the mantra of a large group of "useful idiots" who only see the Jews as the problem for all eternity. I have engaged a number of people at Yahoo groups and other sites who believe this and take it as gospel. When I ask them how they defend Palistine and not the Jews, the answer is always the same......if there were no Jews there would be no problems. I always challenge them to tell me how they support a "country" and "people" that do not exsist except as a political entity designed to eliminate Israel and the Jews and again, their pat answer is usually something along the lines of...."Well, if the Jews would just......" and there they go, off into the surreal world of make-believe.

Dangerous and disgusting.

"Kuffirs of the world, Unite!"
"Islam, abusing women and children since 622AD"

Posted by: OregonJake at April 30, 2008 4:06 PM

Here's another group that says things that would be prosecuted if said by anyone else.
http://galliawatch.blogspot.com/

Here are a few statements (...) from the organization leaders, that leave little doubt as to their Islamist orientation:

"Milli Gorus is a shield that protects our compatriots from European barbarism."

"Democracy is a Western error."

"(Jews) are vampires and blood suckers."

"(Western countries are) instruments of the world-wide secret Jewish conspiracy."

"Our community is a means to an end - the end being to Islamize society."

Posted by: Borg at April 30, 2008 4:15 PM

The Hamas TV educational program, broadcast last week, taught that the murder of Jews in the Holocaust was a Zionist plot with two goals:

1- To eliminate "disabled and handicapped" Jews by sending them to death camps, so they would not be a burden on the future state of Israel.

2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make "the Jews seem persecuted" so they could "benefit from international sympathy."

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It's really strange how someone will project their own values onto someone else. The stuff that they are accusing the Jews of is the kind of thing that they themselves would do, not the kind of thing the Jews would do.

Particularly item 2. Muslims are continually harming each other, and then claiming that they are persecuted by the Jews, so that they can benefit from international sympathy.

I really think that the only way we can rid the world of these low lifes is to drop the Neutron bomb on them, wait a month or two for the smoke to clear, and then relocate some people who actually have a conscience to those lands which the muslims had occupied for so many centuries.

Another huge mistake made by Dhimmy Carter -- he cancelled the Neutron bomb.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at April 30, 2008 4:26 PM

Spreading lies is evil - but so is believing in them.

Posted by: champ at April 30, 2008 5:13 PM

Well credit were credit's due.
It was very nice of the German people to go along with the dread Zionist plan.
I see it all so clearly now, Hitler, Mein Kampf, Stalingrad, Al Alamein, it was all a plot to get rid of handicapped jews.
Is that a tank in the distance or a wheelchair?
Who can tell.

Posted by: Ian at April 30, 2008 5:14 PM

Other sensational news just in from the Middle East;

"2004 Tsunami deliberately created by Mossad Agents farting in unison in Indian Ocean."

"JFK committed suicide to discredit Castro"

"First World War was an elaborate Insurance scam hoax. No actual deaths reported."

"Santa Claus found sharing one bedroom apartment with Elvis Pressley in Albania"

and

"Islamic leader tells truth. Admits to mistakes and vows to denounce violence for sake of world peace."

Now, that really WOULD be fantastic.

Posted by: Rab at April 30, 2008 6:59 PM

" A mind is a terrible thing to waste.."

repeat above 1 billion times.

Posted by: pismopal at April 30, 2008 7:36 PM

If they'll believe the Koran, they'll believe any folly.

Idiocy in/ Idiocy out.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 30, 2008 8:08 PM

This is not evidence of stupidity. This was placed on Hamas TV because damn near every Arab Muslim who hears it will believe it. It is cunning and calculated to keep the average ignorant and illiterate Arab Muslim at a fever pitch of Jew hatred. I wager that this kind of crap does not appear in Arab language newspapers.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 30, 2008 8:29 PM

They are the living dead, these Hamashits, faithfully serving their dead god Mohammad.

Posted by: Lex at April 30, 2008 9:03 PM

Pelayo (your pseudonym, I wonder, because Pelayo was the first King of Asturias and thus a subtle statement by you about a second Reconquista applying to the entire West?): I would maintain that Hamas' initiative here is evidence of stupidity respecting grand strategy, although I will concede to you that tactically it has some merit for the uninformed, i.e., the average Arab Muslim and clueless dhimmis in the West. But, in the final analysis, strategy, especially grand strategy, supercedes tactics most every time if done well.

Posted by: Wellington at April 30, 2008 9:08 PM

Wellington, the real Pelayo was important in ending the Muslim conquest of Spain; that is exactly why I took that name.

This story was on Hamas TV for consumption by the Arabs of Gaza and other parts. I believe the only strategy involved is keeping the average Muslim in revulsion of Jews to reinforce what they are taught from the Quran. When little Johnnie Jihad asks his Imam why Jews are apes or pigs, the knows-all-sees-all Imam can tell little Johnnie about Jews killing Jews and calling it a holocaust. It was on Hamas TV; it has to be true.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 30, 2008 9:51 PM

When I read stuff like this, I feel close to vomiting, it is so unutterably vile, and so contrary to the truth.

Jonathan Swift's intelligent horses, in 'Gulliver's Travels', described a lie thus: "to say The Thing Which is Not".

Hamas are People of the Lie, perpetually saying The Thing Which Is Not.

A great many 'Palestinian' Arab Muslims, and rather a lot of their dhimmified Arabised Christian janissaries [though not all - never forget that faithful and brave Arab Christian, Rami Ayyad, of blessed memory, martyred in Gaza!] are People of the Lie. So, too, over and over, across the Arabised Islamised world, from North Africa all the way east to Bangladesh and Indonesia, south into Sudan, north into Bosnia and Albania, one sees everywhere, in the palace, on the street, People of the Lie. (All the more cause to marvel at those few who fight themselves free, who essentially exorcise themselves - the Magdi Cristiano Allams, the Wafa Sultans, the Ayaan Hirsi Alis).

But in this case they have exceeded themselves. This level of vileness is an offence to humanity, to the earth itself, to YHWH the true and living G-d. One wonders that the sky did not turn black and the earth split and swallow them, as they opened their foul mouths in the ugliest of slanders.

Perhaps the only reason Gaza has not been annihilated, by fire from heaven, by a tsunami from the sea, a convulsion of the earth, is that there remain in Gaza a persecuted and terrified remnant of 3000 Christians. Or perhaps, Gilad Shalit, if he still lives, locked in some dark hellhole, utterly forgotten by all those Human Rights and Humanitarian NGOs who are currently weeping and wailing about the sufferings of the inhabitants of Jihad Fortress Gaza, is the tzaddik for whose sake YHWH restrains his hand.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 30, 2008 11:05 PM

1- To eliminate "disabled and handicapped" Jews by sending them to death camps, so they would not be a burden on the future state of Israel.

2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make "the Jews seem persecuted" so they could "benefit from international sympathy."

These statement reveals the despicable and reprobate mind set that Islam promotes. Others have used projection, that is a good word. We know they are guilty of the second statement ergo they are guilty of the first. Wasn't there a thread a few days ago about the diverting gas or fuel from a hospital? It is also common knowledge that aid money is skimmed for weapons. I am sure we will hear of greater atrocities that these maybe equal to the holocaust by the religion of peace.

Jeremiah 17:9
The human heart is most deceitful and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?

إرميا 17:9
قلب الانسان هو في امس معظم خادعه والاشرار. الذي يعرف حقا كيف سيئة ومن؟

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at April 30, 2008 11:21 PM

So what constitutes a "disabled and handicapped" Jew? How many of them were there then, and how many now? Trainloads? The Jews I saw being herded around, packed on trains in boxcars, and those murdered by Nazi's, on captured Nazi film, looked hungry and scared, but not handicapped. The only handicaps were those forced on them or afflicted on them.
This is just some more sick rhetoric from the sick minds of Islam. It's pretty obvious who it is that is really disabled and handicapped, and it's not Jews...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 1, 2008 12:39 AM

Agreed, duh_swami.

Posted by: Marissa at May 1, 2008 11:17 AM

Agreed, duh_swami. Hey, maybe the Nazis were in on the whole plot the whole time, and fabricated that footage to temporarily lead us astray...

Posted by: Marissa at May 1, 2008 11:18 AM