This story should be a clue to the appeal that Islamofascism has for some politicians, to be able to draw a crowd and have them screaming and shouting for whatever reason you have. It gives a veneer of popularity and probably gives one a feeling of power. It also shows why so many in the west hate our JudeoChristian heritage which says "the voice of wisdom is heard more in silence then the shout of fools.

Posted by: stickman at May 3, 2008 7:24 PM

Please excuse the poor punctuation, I paraphrased not quoted the voice of wisdom bit.

Posted by: stickman at May 3, 2008 7:26 PM

Mob rule, chaos and tyrants are the norm in the UMMAH. The funny thing is there is high inflation, poverty in majority of the Islamic countries and these Muslims can only think of one thing kill the Kaffir as commanded by the Koran. None of the Muslim countries give any humanitarian aid, as far as I know, most are willing to just take as dictated by the Koran and the example set by the MoHAMtheMED, who went around pillaging and robbing.

Posted by: savsiv at May 3, 2008 7:28 PM

If it would boost sales, Robert, perhaps an effigy- or book-burning can be staged in Karachi to promote the release of your new book:

Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam Is Subverting America Without Guns or Bombs

Posted by: John C at May 3, 2008 7:33 PM

Muslims continue to prove that Islam brings out the violence in Muslims or is that violent Muslims bring out the Islam in them?

Posted by: pulsar182 at May 3, 2008 8:00 PM

It is disgusting how ignorant, illiterate,unproductive, undisciplined people behave when they think a supreme being actually approves of their behavior.

Posted by: pismopal at May 3, 2008 8:29 PM

The same sort of riot on demand can be seen being exercised by such worthies as Castro, Chavez or Mugabe. What they have in common with Islam is the totalitarian nature of the ideology, and the lack of morality to do violence as politics. (shades of wm ayres)

Posted by: stickman at May 3, 2008 8:46 PM

Think they're pissed?
I just spent $22.98 on a can of frozen lobster meat!
Just so i could make stuffed sole.

What pulsar182 said.

Posted by: haramfidel at May 3, 2008 8:47 PM

I really have to pity these people. It's like they have no brains.

Posted by: darcy at May 3, 2008 8:53 PM

"death to the blasphemer"

Reporters who reveled in the many works of art that mocked Jesus Christ, seeing them as artistic and creative, don't seem fazed at all by such statements. Meanwhile, they all bought into the idea that George W. Bush's every court appointment was meant to install a theocracy in the US.

Today's protest ended peacefully though, the only casualty a simple effigy of Geert Wilders.

Does this reporter realize what would happen if Geert Wilders ever burned Mohammed in effigy?

And this doesn't bother the Western press?

How many of today's oh so unctuous reporters are prepared to live under the rules of Islam? They've seen colleagues like Daniel Pearl killed in the name of this belief system. The fatwa against Salman Rushdie was no big deal. It was just a peculiarity of the religion. None of this bothers them. WHY?

Posted by: PMK at May 3, 2008 9:04 PM

I wonder if there's any money to be made in quality effigy-making...

Posted by: Abscedere at May 3, 2008 9:04 PM

What more do a Muslim people have to do to prove their country’s population is totally unworthy for immigration into the democratic West? Pakies just represent too much of a risk to allow in as immigrants and I don’t care how friendly the visa applicants appears. Truly intelligent & good people can't read the horrid Koran with reverence. Stop Muslim immigration! And throw out the low life sell-out politicians who want to welcome them.

Posted by: FM at May 3, 2008 9:13 PM

Shows in no uncertain terms just how right the author of this film is.

Islam = death

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at May 3, 2008 9:16 PM

Oh, and guess who wants to FEED them wth YOUR tax money:

http://www.cfiflistmanager.org/globalpovertyact1nm.html

yep, THAT Hussein.. the Oprahbama..

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at May 3, 2008 9:17 PM

"They've seen colleagues like Daniel Pearl killed in the name of this belief system. None of this bothers them. WHY?"

Posted by: PMK at May 3, 2008 9:04 PM

Maybe they haven't really seen it. Maybe they are too cowardly to visit the sites that feature the gruesome beheadings and mutilations that pass for entertainment in the Dar al Islam.

Maybe they are full of talk, though they avoid the blood drenched snuff films with five or six sick psychopaths chanting "allahu akhbar" until the orgasmic moment when the infidel's head is held high for all to see.

Hey, terrorists should have freedom of expression, too--shouldn't they?

Posted by: Abscedere at May 3, 2008 9:17 PM

Well so much for the myth of Islam being a "religion of peace"

Posted by: Clifford at May 3, 2008 9:20 PM

Maybe what set them off was the allegation that mohammed was a seventh-century brigand, bunko-steerer, and television weatherman.

The 'weatherman' part really got the pot to boiling.

Posted by: HotSpur at May 3, 2008 9:39 PM

PMK maybe it is time for non-Muslims to take to the streets and burn Mohammad in effigy. We'd lynch him, but he's been dead for 1400 years.

Posted by: Mystical Time Traveler at May 3, 2008 10:18 PM

I would love to wake up tomorrow and find all infidel references to Mo be --- -"the false prophet Muhammad".

I'm so sick of the dhimmi cave in where this charlatan is referred to as "the prophet Muhammad" instead of just "Muhammad"

Sickening

Posted by: dennisw at May 3, 2008 10:35 PM

What? A measly 5,000 took to the streets in protest? Where's the zeal that one should expect to see from people who claim to revere Mohammad? The entire Muslim population, not just of Pakistan, but of the entire world, should have taken part, while all non-Muslims residents and guests of the planet should have been made to feel subjugated and humiliated, and not just as proxies for those dastardly Dutch and Danish infidels, but because that's the way Allah commanded it to be!

Posted by: Lex at May 3, 2008 10:38 PM

Alas, another example of Muslims not living up to their claims to be a peaceful religion.

Islam ultimately only brings strife (irony intended) to Muslims. Its sad all the examples that Islam does not work as a religion.

Posted by: James Martel at May 3, 2008 10:53 PM

It reads like the last time. About 5000 bellyaching about the truth. .

Posted by: flowerknife_us at May 3, 2008 11:11 PM

"Death to the blasphemer": 5,000 demonstrate against Fitna in Pakistan"

The solution to all these demonstrations against insults to Islam and its screwball Prophet, is to print as many Mohammed cartoons, and crank out as many Fitna-style films, as is humanly possible.

The effect would be to exhaust everyone in the Muslim world who feels honor-bound to demonstrate everytime someone insults their religion. They can choose to spend their every-waking hour in the streets demonstrating, or they can accept that no one is paying any attention to them, and so get on with their daily lives.

Once they realize that their demonstrations are responsible for generating another batch of cartoons and film, maybe they'll wisen up and stay home.

Posted by: rational at May 3, 2008 11:27 PM

PMK..Why are reporters not bothered by this? Narcissism that tells them it can't happen to them.

Posted by: Americantothecore at May 3, 2008 11:28 PM

What? A measly 5,000 took to the streets in protest?
Posted by: Lex

Exactly what I was thinking, Lex. 5000 isn't much of a turn-out in a city of 12 million. I guess they just don't care about infidels insulting their prophet. The imams will have to step up the hate-level in their sermons by a notch or two.

Posted by: ebonystone at May 3, 2008 11:48 PM

well they HAVE to get out and protest something, their weekend just wouldn't be complete without protesting. They probably run off to the nearest cyber cafe to check out the pictures of themselves. Imagine the conversation...

Ali: "oh mustaffah, you looked so angry and you carried that sign so well!"

Mustaffah: " Ali thank you, and you were fabulous in that robe"

Grins all round.

Posted by: gymgal at May 4, 2008 1:24 AM

I wonder how many of these upset people even saw this film.

"Death to the blasphemer..."...After years of practice shouting the duel mantra's, 'death to Israel', death to America', I bet it's hard to shout 'death to the blasphemer'. A tongue twister for some of them, certainly few know how to spell it.
I dare any of these rioters to say 'death to the blasphemer', five times rapidly without messing up.
Death to America, Israel etc are three word sentences. They sort of roll off the tongue, and have a snappy, crisp and more immediate sound to them. 'Death to the blasphemer', is a four word sentence, that seems sort of plodding and slow.
It would also make a good title for the next Fitna film. 'Death to the Blasphemer', Fitna 2'...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 4, 2008 1:54 AM

Do these people ever work?

Posted by: UpLeftUSA at May 4, 2008 2:00 AM

Death Chants emanating from the Death Cult...

....the two go hand 'n hand.

Posted by: champ at May 4, 2008 2:06 AM

Do these people ever work?
Posted by: UpLeftUSA

I doubt it. I think these same 5000 demonstrated against Fitna once already. Maybe they get paid off in falafel burgers if they show up or something. I don't see 'Rage boy' in the crowd, but I bet he's there somewhere...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 4, 2008 3:11 AM

"This story should be a clue to the appeal that Islamofascism has for some politicians, to be able to draw a crowd and have them screaming and shouting for whatever reason you have. It gives a veneer of popularity and probably gives one a feeling of power. It also shows why so many in the west hate our JudeoChristian heritage which says "the voice of wisdom is heard more in silence then the shout of fools.

Posted by: stickman at May 3, 2008 7:24 PM"

A bit off topic but it is the same fascist disease - for an US illustration of the above see:

http://www.massresistance.org/

Posted by: Sonshine at May 4, 2008 3:45 AM

Brainwashed. These Zombies that scream and shout on command, have some of the same kind of problems the folks that Reverend Jim killed in Guyana had.

Unquestioning dedication/loyalty. No questioning of authority goin' on there. Just blind obedience to whatever Ayatoilet is interpreting the Koran for them.

The killing, raping, looting machine that Mo created to satisfy his many deviate appetites, will die when enough people see it for what it is.

Islam is a lie. Truth will kill it.

Posted by: Alaskan at May 4, 2008 4:17 AM

I don't understand - why are they demonstrating?

Don't they know that Allah makes us do these things? That's in the holy writings. Coming over and killing us, that I can see. That's in the holy writings, too.

But protesting? Did Mohammed ever carry signs? Get word through Gabriel that the faithful should sell balloons in the street and chant?

(You saw the balloons, right? http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/pakistan+demo+against+islam+film/2129647)

I'm just so confused!

Posted by: mr_ed at May 4, 2008 5:43 AM

Please forgive my clumsiness with the link in the previous message. Take the parenthesis off the end, and it works fine.

Or just click the link in Robert's posting.

Posted by: mr_ed at May 4, 2008 5:48 AM

Ever Ranging Protests

‘One side is talking the language of freedoms and rights. The other side is talking the language of respect for the sacred.

Beneath the myriad reasons for these events appears to be a fundamental inability of people whose beliefs vary to understand how the other side thinks and feels. We have here a dialogue of the deaf, although paradoxically both sides share the same motivation: fear.’

Deaf and dumbness so found needs resolving!
--------
Adabarez

Posted by: Adabarez at May 4, 2008 6:13 AM

I am finishing a graduate program in international journalism in Wales with 85 students from across the world (US, Cuba, Kenya, Ghana, China, Korea, Japan, Kurdistan, Italy, etc). In response to one of the comments above about journalists not caring about the intolerance and violence (or "threat") of Islam I would have to say it doesn't even come on the radar. I am doing my thesis on Islam and political correctness and I am the only student interested in this topic. (One was interested in studying how Muslims are misrepresented in the media, but with quite a different angle than myself.) I come up against the most interesting tactics of avoidance when I talk about it with classmates. The bottom line is, most people don't know anything, or have the time to study, Islam. That includes journalists. I also think, because of that, situations that have to do with Islam get meshed in with all the other conflicts—election violence in Kenya, kids shooting up schools in the US, teenage gangs beating people in UK parks, (You know, it's actually difficult to think of conflicts right now that don't include Muslim groups;) The point still stands: People don't look at Islam, they just look at another group doing something deplorable. It's like realizing you're an alcoholic or depressed or in love, there is an awakening to reality that must happen. For me, that awakening was in some intense study of Islam (going to talks on Islam, talking to Muslims, reading Spencer's books, the Qur'an, talking to "awakened" friends, etc.) My only hope is that the people who are enlightened can have mercy on those who aren't. Sensible debate and conversation converts better than clever jabs and pity.

Posted by: Tiffany.Corrine.Dow at May 4, 2008 6:37 AM

I am finishing a graduate program in international journalism in Wales with 85 students from across the world (US, Cuba, Kenya, Ghana, China, Korea, Japan, Kurdistan, Italy, etc). In response to one of the comments above about journalists not caring about the intolerance and violence (or "threat") of Islam I would have to say it doesn't even come on the radar. I am doing my thesis on Islam and political correctness and I am the only student interested in this topic. (One was interested in studying how Muslims are misrepresented in the media, but with quite a different angle than myself.) I come up against the most interesting tactics of avoidance when I talk about it with classmates. The bottom line is, most people don't know anything, or have the time to study, Islam. That includes journalists. I also think, because of that, situations that have to do with Islam get meshed in with all the other conflicts—election violence in Kenya, kids shooting up schools in the US, teenage gangs beating people in UK parks, (You know, it's actually difficult to think of conflicts right now that don't include Muslim groups;) The point still stands: People don't look at Islam, they just look at another group doing something deplorable. It's like realizing you're an alcoholic or depressed or in love, there is an awakening to reality that must happen. For me, that awakening was in some intense study of Islam (going to talks on Islam, talking to Muslims, reading Spencer's books, the Qur'an, talking to "awakened" friends, etc.) My only hope is that the people who are enlightened can have mercy on those who aren't. Sensible debate and conversation converts better than clever jabs and pity. Let's not be some elitist group that prides themselves on clever ideology while looking down on the rest of the world. That makes us no better than that which we loath. (That is not aimed at anyone in particular...)

Posted by: Tiffany.Corrine.Dow at May 4, 2008 6:38 AM

Tiffany,

It sounds like your thesis should be required reading for the rest of your classmates.

Posted by: Lex at May 4, 2008 7:54 AM

"Let's not be some elitist group that prides themselves on clever ideology while looking down on the rest of the world. That makes us no better than that which we loath."

loathe.

Actually, that's ridiculous PC talk. "Loathing" something repellent, such as an ideology that deserves to be loathed, such as Naziism or Fascism or Islam, does not reduce us to the level of Nazis, Fascists, or Islamists. "Makes us no better" -that's ridiculous. I can certainly loathe honor killings and my loathing doesn't reduce me to the level of the honor killer! And many other similar examples. Hello. Hey people - don't "look down" on Nazis, because that will make you no better than the Nazi! What MoonBattery.

As for "pride" - we SHOULD take pride in our ideology called Democracy. That's not being "elitist," that's simply being proud of a belief system deserving of praise and pride. In particular, the First Amendment. Sing the praises of and be enormously proud of our Constitution's First Amendment! And, no, we're not reduced to the level of those sans Free Speech, while praising and being proud! That's such PC drivel, nonsense.

Posted by: darcy at May 4, 2008 8:44 AM

At least the article didn't brand Geert Wilders with the usual "right wing" pejorative.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at May 4, 2008 11:52 AM

Oh yes they did. I just read the entire article and there it was, "right wing Dutch MP".

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at May 4, 2008 2:59 PM

"Maybe they haven't really seen it. Maybe they are too cowardly to visit the sites that feature the gruesome beheadings and mutilations that pass for entertainment in the Dar al Islam."

Abscedere,

Who needs to look at the pictures of beheadings to know that they are gruesome? The very idea horrifies me. I guess I'm also a coward because I can't even think of going to one of those sites. It's not something I can deal with. The descriptions I read in the paper are enough.
Reporters are big on the First Amendment. The First Amendment is about more than freedom of the press. Reporters are educated people. They see what is going on around them.

Posted by: PMK at May 4, 2008 4:43 PM

"The crowd also protested against the reprinting of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in Danish newspapers."
From the news report

Latest poll results from Pakistan on how many favor killing the Danish caroonists:

http://www.jamatdawah.org/poll_results.php?poll_id=12

Posted by: Eastview at May 5, 2008 3:45 AM

Make that "cartoonists"

Posted by: Eastview at May 5, 2008 3:46 AM

Well put, Darcy.

Posted by: Eastview at May 5, 2008 3:54 AM

Tiffany.Corrine.Dow You have chosen a very difficult and contradictory mix that does not work. Islam expects the world to givem them a pass and they call it "political correctness". The Muslims are the most politically incorrect people. I have seen fisrt hand how Islam treat women, homo sexuals, non Muslims, thinkers, artists and the list goes on and on. If you are not a Muslim male who prays five time a day, you are a second, third or forth class citizen. And if you are killed by a first class citizen (a true Muslim) it is not a murder since he was fulfilling his Muslim duty to Allah.

While Muslims do just the opposite of political correctness we go to extreme political correctness towads Islam trying to appease them.

If a Muslims rapes your sister, it is not rape he married her which means he can continue to rape as she is now his wife and he can devorce her as soon as he is done with her that is if he choses not to murder her aka honor killing.

In the US, there are people who are jurnalists, politicians and other professions that fear for their lives if caught in a less political correctness towards Muslims or Islam.

Isn't this a sad day for the twenty fisrt century?

Posted by: Lebanese at May 5, 2008 10:19 AM

I'm proud of Tiffany who takes the time and effort to educate herself on the truth of islam. It will take many more people like you , Lebanese, to continue to speak out without fear and educate as many as you can. I appreciate your candor. I support your courage.

Posted by: imamerican at May 5, 2008 8:47 PM

Add my voice to support for Tiffany, too.

Posted by: Eastview at May 6, 2008 3:23 AM