I will look forward to throwing your gang (because thats what you are; no more than a common street gang) out of the American political process. Fascism has no place in democracy!

Help!

I need someone to explain ""fascism"" to me. I thought I knew what it meant but lately I have seen that word thrown around EVERYWHERE. And it seems to mean "my enemy" now. Anyone who doesn't agree with the person doing the article. It is being substituted for, and added to, Nazi, Socialist, Democrat, Nationalist, Patriot, Right, Left and Center, etc., etc. etc.

Could someone, maybe Hugh?, PLEASE give me an accurate, thorough, HONEST, thoughtful understanding?

Posted by: Borg at May 15, 2008 8:48 AM

A note to all future posters of this ilk. Grammar and Spelling - Please! This the English language, the language of Shakespeare and Shaw, Twain and Emerson, Chaucer and Bacon, please take the time and effort to proof your writing!

You will have to stay after class and work on your writing skills!

Posted by: tanstaafl at May 15, 2008 8:53 AM

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/13/cable-news-ratings-for-monday-may-12/3761

These numbers may be skewed since it is election season.
Morning programs P2+ (25-54)
FOX & Friends – 921,000 viewers (229,000)
American Morning- 414,000 viewers (126,000)
Morning Joe – 379,000 viewers (125,000)
Morning Express w/ Meade- 236,000 viewers (134,000)

6PM - P2+ (25-54)
Special Report with Brit Hume – 1,411,000 viewers (315,000)
Situation Room- 764,000 viewers (231,000)
Race to the White House- 609,000 viewers (264,000)
Mad Money – 208,000 viewers (84,000)
Prime News- 223,000 viewers (112,000)

7PM - P2+ (25-54)
Fox Report w/ Shepard Smith – 1,522,000 viewers (360,000)
Lou Dobbs – 935,000 viewers (240,000)
Hardball – 765,000 viewers (346,000)
Kudlow & Company- 183,000 viewers (60,000)
Glenn Beck – 358,000 viewers (164,000)

8PM - P2+ (25-54)
The O’Reilly Factor- 2,587,000 viewers (547,000)
CNN Election Center– 829,000 viewers (299,000)
Countdown w/Olbermann – 1,178,000 viewers (456,000)
Fast Money- a scratch with 86,000 viewers (a scratch with 14,000)
Nancy Grace – 476,000 viewers (177,000)

9 PM - P2+ (25-54)
Hannity & Colmes – 1,680,000 viewers (477,000)
Larry King – 1,409,000 viewers (332,000)
Verdict w/Dan Abrams – 563,000 viewers (205,000)
Detroit Auto Show - 125,000 viewers (a scratch with 44,000)
Glenn Beck- 421,000 viewers (160,000)

10 PM P2+ (25-54)
On the Record – 1,286,000 viewers (322,000)
Anderson Cooper– 1,022,000 viewers (303,000)
Countdown w/Olbermann – 492,000 viewers (188,000)
Donny Deutsch- a scratch with 49,000 viewers (a scratch with 35,000)
Nancy Grace – 564,000 viewers (236,000)

11 PM P2+ (25-54)
The O’Reilly Factor (repeat) - 1,119,000 viewers (294,000)
Anderson Cooper – 764,000 viewers (297,000)
MSNBC Investigates- 300,000 viewers (131,000)
Mad Money- a scratch with 86,000 viewers (a scratch with 37,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 377,000 viewers (193,000)

Strange that the email mentions Glenn Beck but doesn't mention Fox News which is usually mentioned by the left and by muslims.

And by those who use the word fascist multiple times when name calling.

Posted by: Borg at May 15, 2008 9:09 AM

Illegal immigrants in Sweden will get free health care.

How many will run there to get it?

http://www.thelocal.se/11770/20080515/
Free care for illegal immigrants
Published: 15 May 08 07:21 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/11770/

Migration Minister Tobias Billström hinted that he is open to offering healthcare to immigrants who find themselves in Sweden without proper residence permits.

Swedish for Immigrants enrolment hits all time high (4 May 08)
Patients feel effects of nurses strike (21 Apr 08)
Sweden shutting door on refugees: critics (18 Apr 08)
Earlier Billström had rejected the idea because he felt it would send the wrong signals.

But now his opinion on the matter has shifted somewhat and he told TV4 that pregnant women and children lacking residence permits would be offered free healthcare.

The suggestion entails providing free maternity care, care during childbirth, and health services to child.

“You can’t punish children—born or unborn—for their parents’ decision to live here in hiding,” said Billström to TV4.

Refugees in hiding and immigrants without documentation are currently unable to receive care without paying tens of thousands of kronor in healthcare costs.

Earlier, the Liberal Party and Christian Democrats said that would like to have those in hiding and lacking permits receive healthcare under the same conditions as others.

[-]

And just below that article is this

[-]

'Sweden can no longer defend itself'
Published: 15 May 08 13:21 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/11782/

Armed Forces Supreme Commander Håkan Syrén fears that proposed cuts to the military will diminish its capacity to defend Sweden's borders.

Military elite accused of buying sex (8 May 08)
Sweden's military plans further cuts (23 Apr 08)
Sweden recalls torture case officer from Chad (11 Apr 08)
In a proposal featuring an array of downsizing measures submitted by Syrén to the government on Thursday, military operations in Arvidsjaur in northern Sweden will disappear with the dissolution of the city’s Arctic Ranger battalion.

A number of other training units and naval companies are to be shut down as well.

The move comes in response to government pressure to hold down defence spending.

Syrén warned that the military won’t be able to deliver what the government is demanding.

“The Armed Forces are being forced to lower their ambitions when it comes to their ability to repel extensive military operations which threaten Sweden,” said Syrén in a statement.

According to Syrén, Sweden won’t have the protection required if current security conditions deteriorate
[-]

Osama's dream of draining the resources of the west is being fulfilled by overwhelming demographics.

Posted by: Borg at May 15, 2008 9:19 AM

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/news-53/1210688962303840.xml&storylist=newsmichigan

Judge dismisses case of woman who says veil cost her claim
5/13/2008, 3:20 p.m. EDT
By JEFF KAROUB
The Associated Press

DETROIT (AP) — A lawyer representing a Muslim woman who sued a judge for dismissing her small-claims court case after she refused to remove her veil said he's prepared to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"One could easily see the ... continuous litigants that are going to step into district court with this (veil) on," Ayad said Tuesday. "This issue is going to come up over and over again."[-]

Posted by: Borg at May 15, 2008 9:25 AM

And who pays for all the appeals in court?

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at May 15, 2008 9:33 AM

Yea, what tasntaafl said...

If these clowns can't, don't or won't understand the words they use to form sentences; then how can they form cogent thoughts from them ~ how can they then form questions ~ and how can they then understand the answers?

They're stuck on stupid on purpose.

Posted by: undaunted at May 15, 2008 9:42 AM

"Fascism has no place in democracy!"

Saith the fascist, himself.

Posted by: awake at May 15, 2008 9:54 AM

I was going to say, awake, that this psycho poster is the Fascist.

Hey Psycho Dude, if you're lurking - read this - YOU are the Fascist. And really, really dumb, too. But, mindlessness always accompanies the Fascist.

Posted by: darcy at May 15, 2008 10:00 AM

Speaking of Olbermann,

Anyone catch his rant last night?

Whew! Looney!

Posted by: PRCS at May 15, 2008 10:00 AM

Also, Mr. Fascist, it's spelled "Martel."

A good time to thank Frankish King Charles Martel for saving us from the Mohammedans at the Battle of Tours in 732! MERCI, CHARLES LE ROI TRES HEROIQUE!

Posted by: darcy at May 15, 2008 10:09 AM

FASCIST DEFINITION:

Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Posted by: Mackie at May 15, 2008 10:10 AM

The noted E mailer makes no sense at all, there is no discussion, or any substance to what he specifically objects to and his comments are not at all applicable to what is expressed here.

With the exception of the commenter's name of Charles Martell who comments here regularly, this rant could have been directed at almost anybody.

This nondescript childish rant was not really worth giving any credence to.

Posted by: Mackie at May 15, 2008 10:30 AM

That letter is HILARIOUS !

I love how these left wing fascists like to project their own political intolerance on others.

Book burning? Last I checked robert Spencer is in the book CREATING business. Several of his books (how many are there now 5, 6 books?) are bestsellers? I remember in one jihadwatch video robert was standing in front of his library (I love libraries) and he had thousands of books on the subject his is studying.

The guy/girl/thing that wrote this letter is SUCH a hypocrite. I was in the army reserves in Canada and I love it how these left wing hatemongers say 'go over there and fight" to us and then they'll protest the soldiers coming back from a line of duty and scream at them.

TO THE WRITER OF THAT NOTE:

You are a little weasel and a coward--and you know it. Geeee Im going to score one for our time and Obama yessir Im going to write a nasty letter to Spencer. Pulllleeeease you loser.

You are what Lenin called a 'useful idiot' --you criticize Spencer and meanwhile the muslim terrorists (MUSLIM terrorists --I know Obama cannot actually say the word thats why I like McCain or Hillary --they can actually SAY it)
are killing hundreds everyday around the world or planning too (like the channel 4 documentary in the the UK which uncovered the hate in that mosque).

No Pasaran indeed MEANWHILE the muslims are doing JUST THAT thanks to left wing fascists like you who think the problem is americans defending themselves.

You diseased idiot they are passing all around you --they crashed airplanes into your buildings already.

THEY ALREADY PASSED !
You have nothing in common with that phrase you are more like Judas who betrayed the good.
Or like the traitor in the Spartan camp who ran like a little dog to betray the spartans to the persians.

And you have the gall to send a letter to Robert Spencer?--a scholar whose shoes you are unworty to tie.

Go f*** you left wing fascist.

As for US passing (teh citizens of the free world who are not fooled by you or the inane politically correct media) : Hemos pasado!

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at May 15, 2008 10:31 AM

Hemos pasado!

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at May 15, 2008 10:32 AM

Woot!

What The Allies Shall Win said.

Posted by: undaunted at May 15, 2008 11:18 AM

Re the above posting by "The Allies shall win" mentioning the Channel 4 Mosque documentary. Ifound this on AOL news today.

Apology for mosque documentary slur
Last Updated: Thursday, 15 May 2008, 14:28 GMT- Search: Mosque documentary slur

Channel 4 will receive an apology over a documentary slurThe Crown Prosecution Service and West Midlands Police are to publicly apologise and pay a six-figure sum for accusing a Channel 4 documentary exposing extremism in Britain's mosques of misleading editing, the broadcaster said.
The apology will be made at the High Court following the broadcaster's decision to launch libel proceedings against police and the CPS.
A press release issued by police and the CPS last year claimed that the Dispatches programme misrepresented the views of Muslim preachers and clerics with misleading editing.
Police reported Channel 4 to TV watchdog Ofcom for "heavily editing" the words of Islamic imams to give them more sinister meaning in Dispatches: Undercover Mosque.
After investigating, Ofcom rejected the complaints in a decision published last year.
Police had suggested they had considered taking action against Channel 4 before being told the prospect of conviction was unlikely.
Police spent around £14,000 on the investigation, which was initially looking at whether three of the individuals shown in the programme could be prosecuted for inciting terrorism or racial hatred. But they then announced offences may have been committed by Channel 4, specifically in stirring up racial hatred.
Police also claimed the programme, broadcast in January last year, undermined "community cohesion" and "feelings of public reassurance".
One speaker in the programme was shown glorying in the Taliban's murder of a British Muslim soldier in Afghanistan, saying the real hero was "one who separated his head from his shoulders".
Kevin Sutcliffe, deputy head of current affairs at Channel 4, said:"This is a total vindication of the programme team in exposing extreme views being preached in mainstream British mosques. The authorities should be doing all they can to encourage investigations like this, not attempting to publicly rubbish them for reasons they have never properly explained."

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Now I can't seem to find it. Looks like its been pulled. Sorry for being OT.

Posted by: rookie at May 15, 2008 11:29 AM

Spoken like a true leftist suffering from oxygen deprivation...It's the same reason some swoon at Obama speeches. This poor fellow has been holding his breath so long, his lips are probably purple.
That's why he has a lot to say that has no meaning.
A common malady among liberals actually...causes confusion but does not inhibit the ability to speak, So what you get is confused speech. Deep breathing usually fixes that, except in hard core cases...as above...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 15, 2008 11:31 AM

Typical dhimmi bootlick stricken with leftwing cognitive dissonance.

Not screaming about bombstrapped Islamic Muslim Jihadis leaving for Iraq every day says it all.

Irrational Surrendercrat.

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at May 15, 2008 11:57 AM

Forget the dictionary definition.

Fascist: anyone who disagrees with the Left

Posted by: PMK at May 15, 2008 12:14 PM

Mr. Spencer,

"although certainly American troops should be deployed to impede jihad activity wherever necessary"

but the other side of the coin is...

"although certainly mujahadin should be deployed to impede kafir activity wherever necessary"

My point is they have(or believe to have)the paperwork to back their actions.How could we justify your proposition?

Posted by: anonamustafa at May 15, 2008 12:16 PM

Posted by: rookie at May 15, 2008 11:29 AM

Rookie,

That was already posted at Dhimmi Watch.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/021031.php#comments

Regards.

Posted by: awake at May 15, 2008 12:55 PM

Roger that!,The Allies Shall Win

Posted by: MP at May 15, 2008 2:15 PM

Definition of Fascist

A person who is not on the left and makes no attempt to conceal the fact.
alternate below
or..any person who disagrees with a leftist on any subject.

Posted by: pismopal at May 15, 2008 2:39 PM

Olberman has good ratings? No he doesn't. His ratings are terrible, because he is clueless.

Is this e-mail from a CAIR employee/supporter/troll?

Posted by: Prickzilla at May 15, 2008 2:40 PM

What a fool!! I guess liberalism really is a mental disoder. If only this guy would study history and current events but he would probably say I have a bad case of Islamophobia. In reality it is Islamoreality!!

Hey Mr Lib - do a google and find the article - "The Crusades in Context"

Posted by: eaglecap at May 15, 2008 4:09 PM

It's interesting that the poster would confuse Robert and Charles Martel(l). Actually, Charles Martel has been a sometimes poster on this forum (haven't seen you lately, Charles, where have you been?), and he and Robert share similar views on the problem of Islam. Aside from the identity confusion on the part of the poster, I think both Robert and Charles would be proud to be associated in common cause.

Posted by: Eastview at May 15, 2008 4:41 PM

This person says, "Fascism has no place in democracy!" So true. Too bad they are blinded by political correctness, wishful thinking, or hatred of George Bush and republicans, that they cannot see who the real fascists are. Its not hard to see. The proof is in the pudding as they say, and an Islamic theocracy is no place for a human being to live. For those who want an Islamic theocracy the result is endless persecution of the 'other'...whatever kinda of 'other' that is...look at the sectarian jihads happening. (Pakistan, Indonesia anybody? and well, of course Iraq, lets see Iraq for what it is and what MUSLIMS turned it into!) Anyway, I digress, but it's so hard to fathom how 'liberals' who say they value human rights, freedom from religious tyranny, they are so scared to see that yes, that exists, and it is brutal and horrific and it's HERE!, but it's real. It is real. And it must be confronted. Period. If Muslims feelings get hurt, well, to efing bad! Sorry, but that's how it is. Your feelings and 'religious sentiments' are NOTHING in the face of the terrors portrayed in Fitna, and there is plenty more where that came from. Read the news, pay attention to what is going on the world. It will open your eyes.
Anyway, sorry, just had to rant. But this disgusts me that people like this not only sound like an idiot defending sharia (laughable) but they are self-righteous about it. They will, hopefully, wonder one day, "What the hell was I thinking?"

Posted by: TS at May 15, 2008 5:01 PM

A clear cut case of projection,sergeant Friday.

They missed out on an opportunity to get a good "xenophobe" in there as well.

"always looking for a new crusade to fight"

Thanks,but the world is as busy as ever fighting against the ongoing war declared upon free people,ie,free of "submission", for the last 1388 years. Certainly the architect of this dribble is aware that Martel predates the Crusades? Like it matters. This is the type that does their part for the war effort,by trying to block gas pumps with pink bikes in an attempt to elicit an overreaction. Happily,common sense usually prevails.

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at May 15, 2008 5:08 PM

Haha good comment 'We need G.C. Scott'! Funny and true! Love it.

Posted by: TS at May 15, 2008 5:23 PM

Dear No Pasaran,

I read, with great interest, your email to Robert. I have also read, with great interest (and some amusement), all of the comments preceding mine.

You are obviously a very busy...person. So, in the interest of saving you some of your precious time, I will encapsulate all of the comments above into one succinct statement: Pthththththththththth!

You may quote me.

Posted by: USBeast at May 15, 2008 6:20 PM

Its worth noting that "Hemos Pasado" is the fascist response to No Pasaran. At least you guys are smart enough to know which side you are on!

The real battle here isn't against Muslims and Christians; the real battle is against you book burners and us on the left. Come this November the 5th we are going to throw you into the dust bin of history. You really will "remember the 5th of November!"

No Pasaran!

Posted by: NoPasaran21 at May 15, 2008 6:22 PM

They call it Islamophobia.

I call it 20 - 20 vision.

Posted by: PMK at May 15, 2008 6:31 PM

Yeah... and I call you an idiot.

This war is over for you guys. The Left has won. We will be working for the next several decades fixing all of your mistakes. The good news is that there is no way you will ever revolts because all of you are too cowardly to fight. Its explains why you send others to die for policies you support rather than fighting for these policies yourself.

Posted by: NoPasaran21 at May 15, 2008 6:51 PM

Funny how the Mohammedan "leaders" encourage young Mohammedans to blow themselves up for Islam and "Allah." None of the Imams and Clerics do that, of course. Suicide-Bombing, Homicide-Bombing, Mohammedans. Barbarians.

You're the idiot, NoPasaran21. The Left hasn't won. McCain will win! You'll see! LOL!

Are you a Mohammedan? Explains your utter and complete stupidity.

Posted by: darcy at May 15, 2008 7:10 PM

Oh, and here's the only 2 books that deserve to be "burned": 1. The Qur'an. 2. Mein Kampf. But, no one on JW "burns" books - we're way too intelligent, unlike you, dhimwit NoPasaran.

Any questions, you Leftist Book-Burning Fascist, NoPasaran?

Nov 5th - McCain elected President! The Left loses, like the Losers they are. Such as NoPasaran. Wow. You're such an idiot!

Posted by: darcy at May 15, 2008 7:15 PM

""This war is over for you guys. The Left has won.""

We here are not at war with the left. We oppose violent jihad. Are you saying that they are one in the same? I sometimes wonder.

Posted by: kevin at May 15, 2008 7:42 PM

What a loose stool Mr. No Pasaran is. How dare he question the courage of anyone who puts their picture on the same site as their precise criticisms of Islam.

All anyone has to do is cite the many hundreds of armchair, pulpit jihadists who recruit others to do their killing and dying. Does any one think the Bin Ladens of Islamdon would ever shoot at anything that could shoot back? These slugs are recruiting young boys, girls, and other weak minded people to do the dirty work that would cause them to soil their white undies and spoil their precious wudu.

Posted by: Pelayo at May 15, 2008 9:21 PM

Dear No Pasaran,

Please refer to my earlier statement.

P. S. I'd lay even money that no contributer or commenter on this site has ever burned a book: tossed one in the trash; maybe, carved one up to hide a small pistol, probably, but burn...a book?

I'd challenge the author to duel before I'd burn his book.

If you'd have ever read one, you might understand.

Posted by: USBeast at May 15, 2008 9:25 PM

No pasaran,

You do not speak for all leftists.

You do not speak for all socialists.

You do not speak for all humanists.

You do not speak for all communists.

As a matter of fact...you do not speak.

The REAL enemy of the left is not the people who speak on the other side of the aisle, or of any aisle, but of those who employ state power in the cause of domestic fascism with religion as their guide. This applies to the Saudis and their allies, and to islamofascism in all its forms. The power of the extremist Christians has been broken. But now you seek to ally OUR movement with its most despicable ideological enemies. You seek to ally us - as guardians of the fair and equal human condition - with the ACTUAL fascists. The ACTUAL Nazis. The ACTUAL book burners.

You fcking idiot! You utter, fcking idiot! Where have you been in the last ninety years!? Where? Under a fcking rock? FOOL!

Marx would disown you, you fcking traitor.

Sincerely,

GeoffP

Posted by: Geoff at May 15, 2008 10:43 PM

Posted by: USBeast at May 15, 2008 9:25 PM

I concur, I have NEVER burned a book, and always chose reading it instead as an alternative, no matter how much I may have disagreed with it, to burning.

Only fascists intend to inhibit alternate views and control by abolition, free speech.

Posted by: awake at May 15, 2008 11:13 PM

That's what, $100,000 Investment at some center of Higher living for those thoughts?

Posted by: flowerknife_us at May 15, 2008 11:24 PM

"It explains why you send others to die for policies you support rather than fighting for these policies yourself."

Desert Storm '91,Et tu?

Posted by: kafir world at May 16, 2008 3:29 AM

darcy,
NO books deserve to be burned, not even Mein Kampf. Ridding the world of such writing, however evil it may be, will shield people from confronting it. If we don't learn from our history we will be condemned to repeat it. Naziism is part of our history. We can't run away from it and we shouldn't. The only ones we'll hurt will be ourselves.

Posted by: PMK at May 16, 2008 8:47 AM

Hi PMK - Sorry I gave that impression. Of course no books should be burned or destroyed. I meant "deserve to be" - but no, of course don't *literally* do it! Sorry I gave that impression.

However, concerning your sentence "If we don't learn from our history we will be condemned to repeat it," that's not, unfortunately, true. Using Hitler again, the West "appeased" him. Now we are appeasing an even bigger threat, Islam. Which tells me that what we "learned" from appeasing Hitler and his Naziis doesn't matter.

For example, Pres Bush is RIGHT in his recent remarks made in Israel about appeasing the Terrorists. He's actually right! And here come PC Leftists Hussein Obama and his dastardly co-hort, John Edwards, calling the remarks "offensive!" Hello! What, we can't "offend" Islamic Terrorists?! Nope, some people haven't "learned."

Although, of course, many have. Like us here on JW.

Posted by: darcy at May 16, 2008 9:09 AM

Darcy

It is not just what President Bush said. It was the look on his face when he said it that is most telling of all.

I take is statements to be a reminder of who is still President and what his policy is. More so than the "spin" given it by the MSM.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at May 18, 2008 11:31 AM