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Last March, scarcely a day after Geert Wilders's film Fitna was released on LiveLeak, LiveLeak pulled it, explaining:
Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else....
We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high.
LiveLeak restored the film shortly thereafter. Apparently they made security arrangements that made them think they could take the risk. But in their announcement, they enunciated a principle that could fittingly serve as the epitaph of the West: In the end the price was too high.
That is exactly the opposite of the great principles of those whom we remember today, who fought and died so that we could today live free.
It is the polar opposite of John Stark's "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
It is the mortal enemy of Patrick Henry's "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
Ελευθερια η Θανατος!
Libertad o muerte!
Today, we remember and honor those who made the supreme sacrifice for us. Let us not let them down by choosing the chains and slavery of dhimmitude because in the end the price -- the price they paid -- was too high.
Posted by Robert at May 26, 2008 8:02 AM
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The Wright brothers had over 1,000 failures before flight was achieved.
They knew the goal was obtainable and never gave up.
In the war against terror there have been some setbacks but the victories are beginning to appear.
Victory is achievable, dhimmitude, appeasment, and surrender are not options worthy of discussion.
Victory is achievable no matter what the cost is, in fact, it is imperitive for the sake of civilization.
Posted by: pulsar182
at May 26, 2008 8:41 AM
"Today, we remember and honor those who made the supreme sacrifice for us. Let us not let them down by choosing the chains and slavery of dhimmitude because in the end the price -- the price they paid -- was too high."
Indeed, Robert.
J.D. Pendry Army Command Sergeant Major, retired,
writes:
"Jimmy Carter, you’re the father of the Islamic Nazi movement. You threw the Shah under the bus, welcomed the Ayatollah home, and then lacked the spine to confront the terrorists when they took our embassy and our people hostage. You’re the runner-in-chief."
Read it all here:
http://www.theabsurdreport.com/2007/islamic-nazisaxis-of-idiots/
at May 26, 2008 8:44 AM
As per the most recent Die Hard movie, we could all Live Free or Die Hard.
We need more people like John McClane.
Posted by: S Perry
at May 26, 2008 8:46 AM
Can we please call it 'War against islam', not a war on terror.
They've been kind enough to lay out what their intention is, now we need to be honest about what we're fighting against.
And to all servicemen and women, I thank you for your commitment and sacrifice.
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at May 26, 2008 8:57 AM
It is a fight against Islam which has wrecked havoc and misery to millions upon millions of free people. I will not forget the sacrifice many make with their lives to defend liberty and the everyday peace and freedoms. Islam is deadly what is more deadly is the apologists and appeasers and those who take and diminish the freedoms dear to us. We know Islam is bad news.
Posted by: savsiv
at May 26, 2008 9:08 AM
Every blogging the Koran vividly illustrates the intolerance of unbelief in Islam. The freedom not to believe is one of the rights we cherish and for which our soldiers have fought for.
The road ahead, I'm afraid, will be long and difficult. The islamofascists are well funded and often supported by China, Russia and naive Western appeasers.
at May 26, 2008 9:13 AM
Somewhere today, those who hate the military, and hate America, will desecrate a monument to fallen hero's. They will smear the memories of the protectors of freedom. The cowards will do this under the cover of darkness.
What can be said for the mentality that conducts itself this way? Not much...The only thing known to cure this destructive malady, is when caught desecrating, the desecrater is turned over to a few good men, 3-6, US Marines, who will 'splain' to them, in no uncertain terms, what it takes to be a good citizen and responsible adult. The recidivism
rate for desecrations is very low, after the Marines 'splain' it to the offender.
Thumbs up to the hero's who defended freedom, and thumbs down to the desecrater's who would smear their memory.
at May 26, 2008 9:20 AM
Our civilization has just had a significant triumph with the successful landing of the Phoenix probe on Mars. Such exploration is what, in a sane world, we would be devoting our resources to. Instead we have to expend $billions battling a group of 7th century troglodytic fanatics.
Posted by: RBLA
at May 26, 2008 9:23 AM
"John Stark..."
Molly Stark's stalwartness in the war effort rivalled that of her husband.
Here's wikipedishly more:
"Molly Stark, nee Elizabeth Page, (February 16, 1737 - 1814) was the wife of American Revolutionary War general John Stark.
She was born in Haverhill, Massachusetts, moved with her family to Dunbarton, New Hampshire, around 1755, and was the daughter of the first postmaster of New Hampshire, Caleb Page, and his wife Ruth. She married General Stark on August 20, 1758. Together they had eleven children, including their eldest son Caleb Stark. The Molly Stark house still stands in Dunbarton at Page's Corner.
Stark gained historical notoriety due to her husband's battle call of "There are your enemies, the Red Coats and the Tories. They are ours, or this night Molly Stark sleeps a widow!" before engaging with the British and Hessian armies. Stark is also known for her success as a nurse to her husband's troops during a smallpox epidemic and for opening their home as a hospital during the war."
She was, you see, a Dunbarton oak.
Posted by: Hugh
at May 26, 2008 9:24 AM
Good point, RBLA. I'm often stunned by what incredible trouble those troglodytes cause. Now we have to worry about troglodytes with nukes.
At least we should try to conserve energy, put less jihad juice in the old engine. Everyone should help out.
at May 26, 2008 9:32 AM
The problem is that there are many Westerners who do not see islam as a problem. It is just another religion to them. They like to show their tolerance and understading by accommodating it in every respect and shrieking "racist" against anyone who objects.
Plus there is the large body (quite literally in many cases) of people who are more interested in the banalities of their daily lives than the threat of Islam which they can simply ignore for the time being.
Posted by: Celsius
at May 26, 2008 9:37 AM
In defense of Youtube management let me say this. If any Youtube employee were killed or maimed by a Muslim fascist, would that death be in vain or would it be a rallying point and galvanise the country into action? My answer is it would be a life wasted. Over three thousand people were murdered on 9-11 and we still have people in the US who are actively defending this murderous ideology. Youtube was absolutely correct in pulling the video until security arrangements were made. It is one thing to put yourself at risk; it is an entirely different concept to put other people at risk.
Muslim fascists do not even have the moral foundation of the traditional American Mafia. The government agents knew that their families would be left alone. It would be bad for Mafia business to harm a policeman's family.
To paraphrase Patton, I prefer that my enemy die for his country.
Finally, there is a difference between courage and stupidity.
Posted by: Pelayo
at May 26, 2008 9:49 AM
The price of freedom is never too high. When people sacrifice their freedom, then hey might as well be dead.
Posted by: Christian
at May 26, 2008 9:54 AM
I wish I could edit my comments, I meant Liveleak not Youtube. Geez.
Posted by: Pelayo
at May 26, 2008 10:12 AM
Dhimmi Carter single handedly let Islam know it can win. It is time the west wakes up and makes a clear choice:
"Some cultures do not compromise. Take the example of Islam. Islam is now culture, now religion, now political system and now race. It can be anything, depending on the situation. However, Islam cannot change. You cannot water it down, reform it or modernize it. The Quran is emphatic that Islam is perfect (Q: 5:3). No Muslim will tolerate reforming his religion that was perfected by God. Consequently, the only culture that will have to give in to the point of extinction will be the Western culture." ... Ali Sina
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1911
Posted by: Sounder
at May 26, 2008 10:25 AM
CROSBY, STILLS, NASH AND YOUNG...1970
Daylight again, following me to bed
I think about a hundred years ago, how my fathers bled
I think I see a valley, covered with bones in blue
All the brave soldiers that cannot get older been askin' after
you
Hear the past a callin', from Ar- -megeddon's side
When everyone's talkin' and noone is listenin', how can we
decide?
(Do we) find the cost of freedom, buried in the ground
Mother earth will swallow you, lay your body down
Find the cost of freedom, buried in the ground
Mother earth will swallow you, lay your body down
(Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground)
at May 26, 2008 10:33 AM
Dearest Friends,, Happy Memorial Day!!
I want to share this with you,,
The Other Side,,
At first there was no place for us to go
Until someone put up that "Black Granite Wall."
Now, every day and night, my Brothers and my Sisters wait
To see the many people from places afar file in front of this "Wall."
Many stopping briefly and many for hours
And some that come on a regular basis.
It was hard at first,
Not that it's gotten any easier,
But it seems that many of the attitudes towards that Vietnam War
We were involved in
Have changed.
I can only pray that the ones on the other side
Have learned something,
And more "Walls" as this one,
Needn't be built.
Several members of my unit,
And many that I did not recognize,
Have called me to The Wall
By touching my name engraved upon it.
The tears aren't necessary, but are hard even for me to hold back.
Don't feel guilty for not being with me, my Brothers.
This was my destiny as it is yours, to be on that side of The Wall.
Touch The Wall, my Brothers,
So that we can share in the memories that we had.
I have learned to put the bad memories aside
And remember only the pleasant times that we had together.
Tell our other Brothers out there to come and visit me,
Not to say: "Goodbye",
But to say: "Hello",
And be together again. . .even for a short time. . .
And to ease that pain of loss that we all still share.
Today, an irresistible and loving call summons me to The Wall.
As I approach, I can see an elderly lady. . .
And as I get closer, I recognize her. . .
It's Momma!
As much as I have looked forward to this day,
I have also dreaded it,
Because I didn't know what reaction I would have.
Next to her, I suddenly see my wife,
And immediately think how hard it must have been for her
To come to this place.
And my mind floods with the pleasant memories of thirty years past.
There's a young man in a military uniform
Standing with his arm around her---My God!---He has to be my son!
Look at him trying to be the man without a tear in his eye.
I yearn to tell him how proud I am,
Seeing him standing tall, straight and proud in his uniform.
Momma comes closer and touches The Wall.
And I feel the soft and gentle touch I had not felt in so many years.
Dad has crossed to this side of The Wall,
And through our touch,
I try to convey to her that Dad is doing fine,
And is no longer suffering or feeling pain.
I see my wife's courage building,
As she sees Momma touch The Wall.
And she approaches and lays her hand on my waiting hand.
All the emotions, feelings and memories of three decades past
Flash between our touch
And I tell her that:
It's alright . . . Carry on with your life. . .And don't worry about me.
I can see as I look into her eyes that she hears,
And a big burden has been lifted from her,
On wings of understanding.
I watch as they lay flowers and other memories of my past.
My lucky charm that was taken from me and sent to her by my CO,
A tattered and worn teddy bear that I can barely remember having
As I grew up. . .As a child,
And several medals that I had earned and were presented to my wife.
One is the Combat Infantry Badge that I am very proud of,
And I notice that my son is also wearing this medal.
I had earned mine in the jungles of Vietnam,
And he had probably earned his in the deserts of Iraq.
I can tell that they are preparing to leave,
And I try to take a mental picture of them together,
Because I don't know when I will see them again.
I wouldn't blame them if they were not to return,
And can only thank them that I was not forgotten.
My wife and Momma near The Wall for one final touch,
And so many years of indecision fear and sorrow are let go.
As they turn to leave,
I feel my tears that had not flowed for so many years,
Form as if dew drops on the other side of The Wall.
They slowly move away with only a glance over their shoulders.
My son suddenly stops and slowly returns.
He stands straight and proud in front of me,
And snaps a salute!
Something draws him near The Wall
And he puts his hand upon etched stone
And touches my tears that had formed dew drops
On the face of The Wall. . .
And I can tell that he senses my presence,
And the pride and love I have for him.
He falls to his knees and the tears flow from his eyes,
And I try my best to reassure him that:
It's alright,
And the tears do not make him less of a man.
As he moves back wiping the tears from his eyes,
He silently mouths:
"God Bless you, Dad . . . ."
God Bless, YOU, Son . . .
We WILL meet someday,
But in the meanwhile, go on your way.
There is no hurry. . .There is no hurry at all.
As I see them walk off in the distance,
I yell out to THEM
And EVERYONE there today,
As loud as I can. . .
And as others on this side of The Wall join in,
I notice that the U.S. Flag,
Old Glory,
That so proudly flies in front of us every day,
Is flapping and standing proudly straight out in the wind
From our gathering numbers this day.
And we shout again. . .
And . . . again . . .
And. . .again . . .
THANKS FOR REMEMBERING!
THANKS FOR REMEMBERING!
THANKS FOR REMEMBERING!
THANKS FOR REMEMBERING!
THANKS FOR REMEMBERING!'
by: Patrick Camunes
"Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose",, Janis Joplin
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namaste
solsticewitch13
at May 26, 2008 10:39 AM
If our Prime Minister Mr McBroon has his way, I'm sure he wouldn't be seen dead laying a wreath at the Cenotaph, least it would offend the surving members of the Nazis.
As for our home secretary, Jacqui Smith, she'd much rather console the families of suicide bombers than speak a word of consolation for the victims.
See, acknowleding acts of bravery in war is akin to support a war. This just wouldn't do under Labour.
at May 26, 2008 10:51 AM
God bless our uniformed men and women, who stand up so we can stand down.
I've visited a couple of the liberal blogs this morning, wondering what they have to say for themselves on Memorial Day.
Far as I can tell, it seems they're recommending we grill bratwurst instead of hot dogs this year.
Regards,
HAID
Posted by: Haid Dasalami
at May 26, 2008 11:11 AM
We must all become and remain unerschrocken.
Posted by: undaunted
at May 26, 2008 11:40 AM
To all our servicemen and servicewomen around the globe now and in times past, I would like to express the most sincere gratitude from me and my family for your selfless sacrifice.
Freedom certainly isn't free.
Posted by: awake
at May 26, 2008 11:41 AM
To the US military, God Bless you all!
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at May 26, 2008 11:54 AM
Freedom is the best thing to fight for!!
To give up one's life for one's country is the ultimate sacrifice.
Let's remember our fallen with gratitude, and keep on fighting the good fight.
"We will never surrender!" -- Winston Churchill.
Posted by: gymgal
at May 26, 2008 12:01 PM
'If you're going through hell, keep going.'
-Winston Churchill
The Truth Will Out, as it always does, in spite of many of our leaders absolute disrespect for it. It's sites like this one that is setting the stage for the ideological war that's inevitable.
at May 26, 2008 12:13 PM
Here is an excerpt from Amy Grant's song, I Will Remember You:
"So many years come and gone
And yet the memory is strong
One word we never could learn
Goodbye
True love is frozen in time
I'll be your champion and you will be mine
I will remember you
So please remember
I will remember you
I will remember you
I will remember you
I will remember you"
at May 26, 2008 12:37 PM
They fought and died for our freedoms, so we today live free.
The Islamists are now once more pushing on us war, the new WW3 we will fight.
The Nazi war cult was defeated, and now we too must defeat the Islamic war cult.
Thank you to all brave men and women who defend our freedoms so we may live free.
Life Free or Die.
at May 26, 2008 1:16 PM
Today the best known military war dead poem that I aways read each Memorial Day, " In Flanders Fields ". Here is the poem.
"In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army"
"IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields."
at May 26, 2008 1:25 PM
Here is the website the above poem was referenced from.
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/flanders.htm
at May 26, 2008 1:28 PM
Is the price to high for what?
Every generation of Americans never considered the price to high in defending freedom, justice and liberty.
But what are we sacrificing for in Iraq, Afghanistan and other regimes in the Islamic world?
There's not one of them that understands the most elementary concepts of freedom and human rights. If anything, they have nothing but contempt for those concepts.
When we're gone from Iraq and Afghanistan, we'll leave behind regimes that esnslave women, execute apostates, and supress every freedom we hold dear in our world.
Never have we asked our young people to sacrifice for a worse cause.
Posted by: rational
at May 26, 2008 1:28 PM
To all the men and women of the American armed forces who gaved THEIR ALL for the sake of FREEDOM and to the families they leave behind I offer my many THANK-YOUS for your service to the USA. God Bless America and God Bless our service people!
Have a good Memorial Day everyone!
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at May 26, 2008 1:31 PM
Pelayo,
"Muslim fascists do not even have the moral foundation of the traditional American Mafia. The government agents knew that their families would be left alone. It would be bad for Mafia business to harm a policeman's family."
Well it is not suprising considering that Muslims worship Satan the Devil via a moon rock god they bow down to 5 times each day that they would lack any moral foundations at all, period.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at May 26, 2008 1:45 PM
"Freedom cannot be bestowed, it must be achieved."
-FDR.
at May 26, 2008 1:47 PM
Peanut Khadr’s unwanted ‘advice’
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/05/26/peanut-khadrs-unwanted-advice/
Italy: The Media is quick with the ‘Nazi’ label
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/05/26/italy-the-media-is-quick-with-the-nazi-label/
at May 26, 2008 2:08 PM
I don't blame LiveLeak one bit. Certainly not when the British government has proven again & again that it will employ its monopoly on the legal use of force, not against the "Asian" immigrants who daily threaten the lives & property of British citizens & seek at every turn to transform the UK into a sharia state, but against its own British citizens who, in word or deed, oppose this muslim onslaught.
Posted by: sheik yer booty
at May 26, 2008 2:18 PM
But in their announcement, they enunciated a principle that could fittingly serve as the epitaph of the West: In the end the price was too high.
Of course the price seems "too high" under current conditions. The economy is sputtering along and we don't yet have a depression on our hands. If and when those conditions arise and people lack the distractions from the fight against Islam, things will start to get very interesting. Until Muslims drive us "backward" in history, we won't believe that's what they're trying to do. Once they do, I don't think it'll be taken lying down.
Posted by: venividivici
at May 26, 2008 2:28 PM
Lo avrai
camerata Kesselring
il monumento che pretendi da noi italiani
ma con che pietra si costruirà
a deciderlo tocca a noi.
Non coi sassi affumicati
dei borghi inermi straziati dal tuo sterminio
non colla terra dei cimiteri
dove i nostri compagni giovinetti
riposano in serenità
non colla neve inviolata delle montagne
che per due inverni ti sfidarono
non colla primavera di queste valli
che ti videro fuggire.
Ma soltanto col silenzio dei torturati
Più duro d'ogni macigno
soltanto con la roccia di questo patto
giurato fra uomini liberi
che volontari si adunarono
per dignità e non per odio
decisi a riscattare
la vergogna e il terrore del mondo.
Su queste strade se vorrai tornare
ai nostri posti ci ritroverai
morti e vivi collo stesso impegno
popolo serrato intorno al monumento
che si chiama
ora e sempre
RESISTENZA
Piero Calamandrei
(The loathsome German commander in Italy in the last two years of the war, Albert Kesselring, had dared to comment that he deserved a monument from the Italians. Piero Calamandrei, a soldier, lawyer and Partisan leader, wrote this poem in response:
You will have it,
Kamarad Kesselring
The monument you demand from us Italians:
But the stone it will be built with,
It will be we who will select it.
It will not be the burnt-out stones
Of helpless villages you tormented and destroyed;
Nor yet the earth of the cemeteries
Where rest in peace our youthful friends
Nor the unstained snow of the high mountains
That challenged you for two long winters
Nor the springtime in our valleys
That bore witness to your last flight.
No: it will be the silence kept under torture,
Harder than any stone,
Only the rock of this compact
That free men have sworn together,
Free men gathered of their free will
Through dignity, not hatred
Resolving to atone by deeds
For the world's disgrace and terror
If you want to come back to these roads
You will find us at our posts again,
Dead and alive, with one common plight,
One nation, united around this monument:
And we call it
RESISTANCE
Now and for ever.)
at May 26, 2008 2:29 PM
"Today, we remember and honor those who made the supreme sacrifice for us. Let us not let them down by choosing the chains and slavery of dhimmitude because in the end the price -- the price they paid -- was too high."
Yes. Let us honor the fallen. But let us also not waste lives. Those who have perished are not pleased when their buddies die while on ill-planned military endeavors, nor when the forces they gave their lives for are weakened in these endeavors.
We should continue the struggle. But next year at this time, I hope we can say that each person in those graves was sent on their mission judiciously.
Posted by: Shlomo_Michael
at May 26, 2008 2:54 PM
The best way to honor the memory of those who gaved their lives is to SAY NO to dhimmitude.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at May 26, 2008 3:09 PM
Peleliu, Aachen, Hurtgen Forest:
Did the Soldiers and Marines who died in these three battles die unnecessarily? Were their lives wasted? My belief is, yes. Don't get me started about the American strategic daylight bombing of Germany in 1943 and early 1944.
Now we have Iraq and Afghanistan. When men die for something foolish, the price is too high.
Posted by: Pelayo
at May 26, 2008 3:25 PM
The American Armed Forces in excellence, integrity and devotion to a proper cause tower over anything the Islamic world has ever produced. Even for those of us like myself who find just cause in aiding some Muslims against others, it still never negates thinking that the Muslim world doesn't deserve America, especially our finest young men and women who serve in uniform. The phenomenon of America eclipses all and everything which is Islamic.
Posted by: Wellington
at May 26, 2008 3:55 PM
I Am Not Dead
Do not stand at my grave and weep;
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow;
I am diamond glints of snow;
I am the sunlight on ripened grain;
I am the gentle autumn's rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush,
I am the swift uplifting rush
of quiet birds encircled flight.
I am the soft star that shines at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there, I did not die.
Lyrics by Mary Frye (1932) and Wilbur Skeels (1996)
at May 26, 2008 4:13 PM
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. ~ JFK, Inaugural Address, 1961
God bless our fighting men and women, Happy Memorial day.
Posted by: BurgerBoy
at May 26, 2008 5:06 PM
Socrates, at his trial:
Strange, indeed, would be my conduct, O men of Athens, if I who, when I was ordered by the generals whom you chose to command me at Potidaea and Amphipolis and Delium, remained where they placed me, like any other man, facing death; if, I say, now, when, as I conceive and imagine, God orders me to fulfil the philosopher's mission of searching into myself and other men, I were to desert my post through fear of death, or any other fear; that would indeed be strange, and I might justly be arraigned in court for denying the existence of the gods...if you say to me, "Socrates, this time we will not mind Anytus, and will let you off, but upon one condition, that you are to inquire and speculate in this way no more, and that if you are caught doing this again you shall die"; - if this was the condition on which you let me go, I should reply: Men of Athens, I honor and love you; but I shall obey God rather than you, and while I have life and strength I shall never cease from the practice and teaching of philosophy, exhorting anyone whom I meet after my manner, and convincing him, saying: O my friend, why do you who are a citizen of the great and mighty and wise city of Athens, care so much about laying up the greatest amount of money and honor and reputation, and so little about wisdom and truth and the greatest improvement of the soul, which you never regard or heed at all? Are you not ashamed of this? And if the person with whom I am arguing says: Yes, but I do care; I do not depart or let him go at once; I interrogate and examine and cross-examine him, and if I think that he has no virtue, but only says that he has, I reproach him with undervaluing the greater, and overvaluing the less. And this I should say to everyone whom I meet, young and old, citizen and alien, but especially to the citizens, inasmuch as they are my brethren. For this is the command of God, as I would have you know; and I believe that to this day no greater good has ever happened in the state than my service to the God. For I do nothing but go about persuading you all, old and young alike, not to take thought for your persons and your properties, but first and chiefly to care about the greatest improvement of the soul. I tell you that virtue is not given by money, but that from virtue come money and every other good of man, public as well as private. This is my teaching, and if this is the doctrine which corrupts the youth, my influence is ruinous indeed. But if anyone says that this is not my teaching, he is speaking an untruth. Wherefore, O men of Athens, I say to you, do as Anytus bids or not as Anytus bids, and either acquit me or not; but whatever you do, know that I shall never alter my ways, not even if I have to die many times.Posted by: traeh
at May 26, 2008 5:56 PM
Dear good Socrates, echoing down the centuries...may he be blessed together with all the brave servicemen and women from the USA, Australia, Canada, Poland and all the others of the free world who are expending their youth, their heart and in some cases their very lives to defend us against the most malignant foe in the history of the world, Islam
Posted by: jewcat
at May 26, 2008 7:11 PM
In the end the price was too high.
Rather than be the epitaph of the West, these words should be the epitaph of our farewell to Islam.
"We are leaving now. We won't be coming back and you will not be welcome in our countries. We did our best to help you free yourselves from the dictatorships and autocracies that have kept you down for so long. We wanted you to have the opportunity for a fulfilling life, the birthright of every human being. But that wasn't enough for you. You couldn't take that gift without making further demands. You even insisted that we should sacrifice our own principles and heritage for the sake of Islam. It just can't be done. We tried to help you but in the end the price was too high ".
Posted by: PMK
at May 26, 2008 7:35 PM
PMK,
"We tried to help you but in the end the price was too high."
Excellent!
at May 26, 2008 7:57 PM
When we're gone from Iraq and Afghanistan, we'll leave behind regimes that esnslave women, execute apostates, and supress every freedom we hold dear in our world.
Never have we asked our young people to sacrifice for a worse cause. (rational)
No matter what stupidity led us into Afghanistan and Iraq, our soldiers are indeed fighting the enemy. They did not create the enemy by being there. The enemy always existed since Mohammed with the intent of destroying our way of life. Every one of the these Islamic tyrants that were laid in the ground by our brave soldiers makes this a better world. I will never say they died for nothing.
Posted by: Briars
at May 26, 2008 10:53 PM
Another quote to remember -
"I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." Nathan Hale (CT)
at May 27, 2008 9:02 AM
Just yesterday my friend, a typical middleaged white mom was dicussing the terroristic Hilo policemen who didn't like being photographed by her husband for flying their helecopters too low over the neighborhoods. I said she should have written letters to the editor or the local newspapers about what happened to her when they came to the door and wanted the camera. I said that she should now call our friend who is head of the police commission to call these officers on the line. She is too frightened.
It is because there are few Winston Churchills and too few Patrick Henry's in this world. Yet there are enough when the time comes.
I am going to write a letter to the editor and see what happens.
at May 28, 2008 1:44 PM


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