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June 2, 2008

Defendant in U.K. jetliner plot claims he only planned small bomb at Houses of Parliament as publicity stunt for movie he was making

Just a little bomb. So, people would have been totally okay with that, right? "Accused calls British bomb plot a publicity stunt," from CBC News, June 2:

A 27-year-old man accused of planning to bomb North America-bound airliners, including flights that prosecutors say were headed for Montreal and Toronto, said on Monday he was planning a publicity stunt, not mass murder.
Abdulla Ahmed Ali, one of eight British men charged with plotting to simultaneously detonate liquid explosives aboard passenger jets in 2006, told a court in London he had never considered bombing a plane.
He testified he instead planned to set off an explosion at the Houses of Parliament in London, using a device large enough to generate "mass media attention." He denied he planned to kill anyone.
"We never intended to murder anyone or to injure anyone," he said. "We never even thought about going on an airplane."
Prosecutors accuse Ali of being one of three ringleaders in a plot to kill hundreds of airline passengers by detonating bombs concealed in soft drink bottles as the flights crossed the Atlantic Ocean or over North American cities.
Earlier in the trial, the jury was played a video in which Ali said he wanted to become a martyr. He threatened to "punish and humiliate" non-Muslims and "teach them a lesson they will never forget."
The computer systems engineering graduate told the court on Monday the video was just propaganda. He said he intended to use the footage for a documentary to be distributed on YouTube. The bomb blast, he said, would help publicize the movie.
Ali said he hoped the documentary would help sway the British public's attitude toward the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which he called "totally illegal and criminal."
Prosecutors say Ali had a computer memory stick that stored vast amounts of detail on daily air services from London to North America, adding that he and his co-conspirators did not seem interested in return flights.

Posted by Marisol at June 2, 2008 7:22 PM
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So many of these incidents are perpetrated by people acting like small children. They make up ridiculous lies or accuse their intended victims of their own behaviors. Shouldn't surprise me, though, rational adults don't usually engage in psychopathic behavior.

"He threatened to "punish and humiliate" non-Muslims"

Hate crime not-withstanding, if this religion is truly great, shouldn't being a non-muslim be punishment enough?

Posted by: Peter_Wiggin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 7:37 PM

Jihadi's and their stories of why they just happen to be playing with bombs is just amazing, Or for that matter the other story of going to Pakistan and practice shooting AK-47. Additionally the stories of why they happen to beat up some non Muslim priest etc, is sickening and to say the least just amazing that the violence is just the norm. This fetish with bombs and mass murder is an addiction for the Jihadis. They get off on playing with bombs and mass murder and plotting on how to next subdue and kill as mass infidels as possible. More likely than not a nuke is what they would really want to get a hold of and let it go off on non suspecting non Muslims, women, children, the elderly. Just the way of the Islam. Before it was the sword and now bombs.

Posted by: savsiv [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 7:42 PM

he and his co-conspirators did not seem interested in return flights.

this story is similiar to the 9-11 hijackers who did not want to learn to land the planes...

all have one motive, is to murder innocents and go on their merry way to allah land.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:23 PM

I just don't understand why we can't give these people the benefit of the doubt. He said he never intended to hurt anyone.

It's all so Islamophobic.

Ali seems like such a nice guy.

I'm sure there's hardly anyone here who hasn't similarly perpetrated a simple bomb prank on occasion.

Posted by: Haid Dasalami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:35 PM

"We never intended to murder anyone or to injure anyone," he said.

But if anyone did die, then c'est la vie?

The bomb blast, he said, would help publicize the movie.

Most people have a party! Muslims giving away free booze would generate mass media attention.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:41 PM

I agree with Wiggins. They consistently offer lame, childish excuses when they're caught.

And yes, it seems mass murder has some erotic component for these nuts. I hope to go to heaven when I die. These people think they're getting laid for eternity. Good grief.

Posted by: Bingo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:41 PM

Sure, sure, that's what they all say.
These excuses are so lame that I feel sorry for his wife: she must see right through it when he cheats.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:46 PM

The movie was obviously going to be a remake of "Night of the Living Dead".

The only film that militant Mohammedans know how to make.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:52 PM

He's a lying sack of dung. too bad the UK no longer hangs criminals. A 10' length of well oiled hempen rope tied around his neck would improve his looks.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 8:59 PM

Saddam style.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 9:00 PM

Well, taking this rube at his word, I guess we can conclude that just as there is regular beer and light beer, there are ordinary Islamic bombs, designed to inflict maximum damage on dhimmis, and light Muslim bombs which only want to make a harmless point about the superiority of Mo's faith. Glad to know about this distinction. I'm certainly the better off for knowing this.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 9:22 PM

I didn't see any mention of a movie camera....Or even a video camera....I suggest as he stated, he wants to be a martyr, that we comply with his wishes....After-all....the explosives are un-used and readily available.....

Posted by: b4lucy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 9:33 PM

The movie was obviously going to be a remake of "Night of the Living Dead".

The only film that militant Mohammedans know how to make.

Posted by: profitsbeard

LOL!! Starring the same lousy actors, too!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 9:45 PM

From the article,

"Abdulla Ahmed Ali, one of eight British men..."

Since when did the Anglo-Saxon "British" start calling their children Abdulla?

What happened to the Anglo-Saxon "British"?

Posted by: Aiken Bryce [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:01 PM

Publicity stunt? I think someone forgot that the operative cover story when caught is supposed to be that "It was just a joke".

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:04 PM

Apropos not this particular article but relevant to everything at this website:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2zxbjNv4GYo

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:04 PM

Well, will the British public once again be lenient with this muslim terrrorist, after all it was only for show. Have we reached a point in time when half the world is asleep once again?

Posted by: AMartinez [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:09 PM

How I wish the folks in the public gallery would start shouting "Liar, liar, pants on fire".

But he was certainly telling the truth when he said he wanted to HUMILIATE the non-Muslims. It begins with the Quran - Jews and Christians must be made to 'feel themselves subdued' - but it runs right through the literature and social practice of Islam, a discourse of supremacism and the will to hurt, the will to harm, the will to dominate and ultimately destroy, both physically and spiritually, the designated Other/ Enemy/ Sacrificial Victim, i.e...us, us kafir.

Here's one of those lovely, sweet, mystical Sufis talking about the purpose of imposing punitive Jizya tax (aka Protection money, Mafia style) on non-Muslims who have been subjugated by Islam:

"The honour of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs.

"One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims...

"The real purpose of levying jiziya on them is to humiliate them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur.

"They should constantly remain terrified and trembling.

"It is intended to hold them under contempt and to uphold the honour and might of Islam".

Sufi Muslim 'saint' Ahmad Sirhindi, of India (1564-1624), letter #163

And here's a Muslim jurist, Ibn Abdun, from that lovely, tolerant, Golden Andalucia that we hear so much about from the apologists for Islam, expressing an attitude of naked and ugly supremacism in his advice as to how the Christians and Jews of Seville should be treated (thanks for sharing this gem with us, Mr Fitzgerald, the hideous arrogance of it makes one's blood boil):

"No...Jew or Christian may be allowed to wear the dress of an aristocrat, nor of a jurist, nor of a wealthy individual;

'on the contrary they must be detested and avoided.

'It is forbidden to accost them with the greeting, 'Peace be upon you'..
'In effect, 'Satan has gained possession of them, and caused trhem to forget God's warning.
'They are the confederates of Satan's path; Satan's confederates will surely be the losers! (Quran 58:19).
"A distinct sign must be imposed upon them in order that they may be recognized and this will be for them a form of disgrace."

Hassan al-Banna said, "Islam is to dominate, and not be dominated"

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:18 PM

"Abdulla, you were going to make a movie?"
"Uh, yes."
"Where's the script?"
"Duh, uh, er, umm, the dog ate it, yeah, that's the ticket. The dog ate it."

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:20 PM

From Pelayo's post,

""Duh, uh, er, umm, the dog ate it, yeah, that's the ticket. The dog ate it."

I'm certain that you already know the dog's place in the Islamic world.

And yes, the dog is frowned upon and even eaten in the MAJORITY non-Islamic world, but has any "(un)Holy" book ever derided man's best friend in such a way as Muhammad's creation?

Rhetoric question for any who care to respond: Did nature make a mistake by teaming dog with man?

"Don't mess with Mother Nature!"

Posted by: Aiken Bryce [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:36 PM

Western psychology has special words for those who 'get off' on deliberately taunting, hurting, humiliating, bullying, and indeed, in logical progression, raping, torturing, mutilating in inventive ways and, finally, murdering, other human beings.

We call them bullies and abusers and sadists. If they operate solo, we call them psychopaths. If they operate in a group, we call them sociopaths. If they kill their victims, we call them Serial Killers and Mass Murderers and, in a military context, War Criminals. And we name them as Sick and as Evil: NOT as 'heroes' or 'martyrs'.


The brilliant twelfth-century Jewish philosopher Maimonides was right, in spades, when in describing the figure of Ubul Kassim, known to Muslims as 'Mohammed', he (Maimonides) dubbed him "Ha-Meshugga", that is, "The Madman". It was not an insult, but a professional diagnosis.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 10:47 PM

I just clicked on the link Our Hugh provided. Wow!

Wafa Sultan rocks!!

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2008 11:01 PM

Hey dummy, Mr. Abdulla Ahmed Ali, the kind of publicity stunt you were planning will land you in jail!!

Quite frankly, I don't ever want to fly on a plane where a "little" explosion takes place, just as a publicity stunt.

You must think we're total idiots! Well, you'll get lots of time to think about it now, in your prison cell.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2008 12:59 AM

I am surprised that these dumbarses have no strength of their convictions. How quickly they abandon their operations. What a bunch of bints.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2008 3:07 AM

I am surprised that these dumbarses have no strength of their convictions.
by Jewel Atkins

But they do have the strength of their convictions. They set out to kill. When they are caught or their actions disrupted, they lie and pretend it was nothing serious. Then, when the heat is off, they'll try again. It's how their prophet taught them to live. Kill when you are in a position of strength. Retreat or lie about your intentions when you are in the weaker position. That way, you'll live to kill.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2008 8:23 AM

I hate to have to do the jihadi's job for them, but ............. won't it be better to say that the explosives were for Guy Fawke's Day?

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2008 8:43 AM

Anyone want to buy the Tower of London?

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 3, 2008 9:02 AM
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