Good to see that multicultural british society is making such a wonderful progress.

Islamic progress, that is.

Posted by: Crusader at June 8, 2008 7:59 AM

Doesn't radicalisation and universal intolerance of others begin the moment a child is born by whispering "There is only one God and Allah is his his name" into his/her shell-like?

Posted by: Hermit at June 8, 2008 8:18 AM

“They are not picking up the message of violent extremism from the mosques but from individuals who are seeking to radicalise them."

And where do you suppose these "individuals" learned "the message of violent extremism"?
Granted, the internet helps to spread the message world-wide, but long before the internet ever existed violent extremism was being preached in mosques, and still is today.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at June 8, 2008 8:43 AM

How would they be "weaned away"? Told that these men telling them what they can find in the Qur'an and Hadith are "bad men" and mustn't be listened to" when the chldren can see, anyone can see, that the texts they refer to are right there? Tell them to ignore what the Prophet Muhammad did, in his 78 campaigns, in the Battle of the Trench, in the killing of the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, in all the battles in-between, the kind of thing so carefully collected in those Books of Battles, such as al-Waqidi's Kitaab al-Maghazi?

Young Christians are, or can be, inspired by the life of Christ, his homilies and parables being the sayings to which, what the Prophet Muhammad said, recorded in the Hadith, is the counterpart in Islam. And what Christ did during his life has, as its counterpart in Islam, the acts of Muhammad, which include such events, celebrated and not ignored by Muslims, as the kililngs of Asma bint Marwan and Abu Akaf, the decapitation of the 600-900 bound prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, the attack on the innocents of the Khaybar Oasis, with its blood and gore, in order to seize their property and their women (and after killing their fathers and husbands).

Perhaps those now in charge of keeping these young Muslims from being "led astry by extremists" are Muslims themselves, with what has now turned into a gig, a job, all over the Western world, to be paid for by Infidel taxpayers, with the "reports" of "progess" so very heartening to the apparently endlessly naive, or perhaps, more likely, wilfully ignorant, Infidel social workers and police and local officials who might "hail" the results of this "innovative" program.

But why don't they find out what the appeal actually is? We know that in the prisons of Saudi Arabia those Al-Qaeda members who are supposedly "turned" away from terrorism, are not turned away at all, but merely made to stop attacking fellow Muslims, while retaining their hatred for real Infidels, and above all those fellow Muslims who are not to be attacked, are the symbols of authority of, and even members of, the smiling, daggers-and-dishdasha, dripping-with-gold-and-malevolence, the Al-Saud.

We can all imgatine what kind of things are being said:

"You should stay away from the extremists" because "they don't help Islam now" and "do something for Islam" by "working to further the position of Muslims in this society" by "getting into positions of real power" where "you can do far mmore for Islam" than "someone putting a bomb on a bus." "Listen, I understand you, I'm you, and you're me, we're all brothers -- "bruvvers" -- aren't we, part of the same Commmunity, but we have to think smart, act smart. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), now he was brave, wasn't he? He wasn't afraid of war, was he? He loved war. But he knew when to fight, and he knew when not to fight. Remember how he tricked the Meccans at Al-Hudaibiyya? Well, some people might have thought when he made that treaty that he'd gone all soft? But he showed them, didn't he? And that's he was such a great man, the Seal of the Prophets, because he didn't just receive the Message, but he knew how to spread it, in any way that worked.

Well, we are here aren't we? In Great Britain I mean. And they are paying me and the other brothers to make you stop listening to those "extremists." And I need you to do that. I need you to see the larger picture. Can you do that? Just because someone tells you to learn how to fight the Infidels with bombs and guns in Pakistan or Afghanistan, or right here, especially right here, doesn't mean they're right, doesn't mean they know what they're doing? Are those people telling you to leave school and go off on Jihad -- how great are they? Are they The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? What would The Prophet Muhammad, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil, the Perfect Man, tell young boys like you to do today? Remember how he made that "peace" with the Meccans at Hudaibiyyah, the one that was supposed to last for ten years, and his own followers thought he had gone soft, but -- eighteen months later -- he showed them, and he showed the Meccans too. The Prophet Muhamamd (pbuh) said that "war is deception." Well, are we Muslims in a war or arent' we?

You tell me, boy, what you think would be wisest for you to do, right now, in order to help make sure that Muslims prevail -- everywhere.

Posted by: Hugh at June 8, 2008 9:58 AM

It’s the bright kids who are the ones that might be most vulnerable.

Even if they're not poor, they ARE uneducated. The brightest children can still be manipulated, if they are unsure of themselves and what their place is in society. Some of the brightest people turn to lives of crime. The terrorists appear to have adopted a simple, but effective, rule: get them while they're young.

Posted by: PMK at June 8, 2008 10:00 AM

Many years ago when the British were a great people they would send out missionaries and teachers to raise the level of civilization throughout their empire. Today, after having allowed themselves to be invaded, social workers are assigned to "convert" the Muslim masses overrunning England away from their customary violence and bigotry. It's not going to work. Unfortunately, we are rapidly approaching the time when only the "soccer thugs" can save Britain.

Posted by: RBLA at June 8, 2008 11:34 AM

Mr. Bettison, I have a strategy for developing a national program aimed at preventing Islamic radicalisation: quit importing Muslims into your country, and expel those who won't conform to the British way of life.

Guaranteed to work!

Posted by: rational at June 8, 2008 1:36 PM

You tell me, boy, what you think would be wisest for you to do, right now, in order to help make sure that Muslims prevail -- everywhere. Posted by: Hugh

Very strong point, what are they telling those young boys and girls about being 'good Muslims'? Are they being re-progammed for soft-Jihad? It would be good to get a transcript of their re-programming syllabus to see what is being taught there.

The only positive development I can see here is that this re-programming campaign shows they are retreating from fast-Jihad, which means they are feeling weak at the moment. This is not to be lauded as 'success' against the mis-named 'war on terror' but an acknowledgment the Jihadists are at present in retreat. "War is deceit" is their operative mode, so they cannot be believed at face value, but one must read in between the lines. Like Hezbollah or Hamas, they are doing a temporary retreat so they can rearm for the future Jihad offensive. Deceit cuts both ways, in that we need not believe anything said to us. This is as much taqyyia meant for us in their Jihad as it is to re-program the youth against using 'extremism' tactics at this time. They can wait. And while they wait, we keep telling the truth about Jihad and its war cult Islam. We can wait too, and let the truth work in our favor, to sway humanity away from this vicious primitive 7th century Cult of Allah.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at June 8, 2008 3:20 PM

We better start looking in our own backyard.
Can you imazine what would happen, if we would take those children in protected custody, like what happened in Texas.

Posted by: Maria at June 8, 2008 10:52 PM

A 10 year old child was used as a suicide bommer in the Middle East. What will be next ???

Posted by: Maria at June 9, 2008 12:14 AM

"A 10 year old child was used as a suicide bommer in the Middle East. What will be next ???

Posted by: Maria "

This is nothing new. palis have been doing it for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict

During the iran-iraq war, children were given "keys to jannat (paradise)" and sent to clear minefields. These kids were called "basijs". Info on the basij movement in the link below.

http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/ahmadinejads-world

Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 9, 2008 1:50 AM

Another country paying Muslims to clear up the problems caused by other Muslims. Nice work if you can get it.

How much power, influence and funds influence are we giving to "moderate" Muslims to "solve" the problems of Islam?

Moderate Muslims are probably very happy to have extremists: not only does that stop many people from criticizing them, it also leads to governments funding them, and the kind of victim status that turns soft-minded liberals on.

Islam now has more political power, status and funding than any other religion on Earth. And why? Mainly because they are aggressive, violent and unforgiving.

More Islam anyone?

Posted by: Stefcho at June 9, 2008 4:35 AM

Maria..

"The Basij's formative period was during the Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988), when self-sacrifice, the quintessential value of the Islamic Revolution, came to be the guiding principle of Iranian society, both on the Iraqi front and in daily life. Basij volunteers, mainly children and youth, were sent to the Iraqi front with a "key to Paradise" hanging around their necks. These volunteers were sent to clear minefields or to serve as cannon fodder in mass attacks against Iraqi lines. Thousands of them found their deaths in suicide commando units. The Iranian regime glorifies the "martyrdom of the youngest Basij member Hossein Fahmideh," a 12 year old who, according to the regime, blew himself up under an Iraqi tank. Thus, Fahmideh became a national hero and a role model for Iranian youth - whom the regime encourages to defend the homeland and the values of the Islamic Revolution. "

Posted by: pulsar182 at June 9, 2008 8:15 PM