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How many more in Britain knew about the plots? How many knew in the mosques they attended? How many knew among their friends and acquaintances? This is good news, but larger question remains: what are British authorities doing to stop the spread of the jihad ideology? What are Britain's self-professed moderate Muslims doing to combat that ideology? Why, nothing, of course -- what are you, some kind of Islamophobe?
"Failed London bomber's wife jailed for 15 years," from AFP, June 12 (thanks to Joe):
LONDON (AFP) - The wife of one of the failed 2005 London suicide bombers was jailed for 15 years Thursday, after being found guilty of failing to tell the police about the terrorist plot.Yeshi Girma, 32, knew her husband Hussain Osman was planning to unleash carnage in the failed July 21, 2005 attacks and could have stopped the attempted bombings, England's Old Bailey central criminal court heard.
Judge Paul Worsley told her the highly controversial police shooting the following day of innocent Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes -- mistaken for a suicide bomber -- could have been avoided had she not kept quiet.
The plot was a bungled attempt to repeat the attacks of exactly two weeks earlier on July 7, when four Islamist extremist suicide bombers killed 52 innocent people on London's transport network.
Girma, who has three children by Osman, was found guilty by a jury of having information about terrorism and "without reasonable excuse" failing to disclose it.
She was also convicted for assisting an offender and failing to disclose information about Osman's involvement in the plot. Three others were also jailed for their part in his escape. She wept as she was sentenced Thursday.
Worsley said the sentences he was able to impose were "woefully inadequate to reflect the enormity of what you were about in July 2005".
"I have no doubt that each of you were prepared to aid a ruthless fanatic and that in so doing each of you must have harboured the hope that the bombers would ultimately be successful in their mission to seek to damage our society."...
Yes.
Posted by Robert at June 12, 2008 4:53 PM
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Others deserving even stiffer sentences:
Tony Blair, Cherie Blair, Clare Short, Jack Straw, Jamie Shea, George Robertson, David Wiglby, Ken Livingstone, the entire UK media, the labor unions, the entire UK academia, Archbishop Rowan Williams and the entire Church of England, and literally millions of other persons in the UK who happily granted residence and even welfare pay to thousands of jihadists from all over the world, and loudly cheered them, and aggressively aided Kosovar Albanian terrorists in kidnappings, rapes, torture and murder of Serb civilians in Kosovo, hoping to buy "peace in their time" from jihad with blood of Israeli, Serb and Argentinian children.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Posted by: Enragedsince1999
at June 12, 2008 5:20 PM
The norm of the religion of peace. Bomb plots, subvert the laws of infidel lands and kill as many infidels as possible for Islam calls. Allah calls he is thirsty for blood. The kufars are like dogs according to Islamic doctrine and those Muslims who wage war and kill in the name of allah will get to the porn heaven of Islam.
Posted by: savsiv
at June 12, 2008 5:21 PM
Still credit were it's due, that's a pretty stark warning to people who think they can turn a blind eye. 15 years, good.
On the Serbs, if they hadn't acted like a bunch of drunken raping looting barbarians, the world wouldn't have been so outraged by their vicious nasty sub human behaviour. All they did with their disgusting barbarism is ensure we've now ended up with the worst of all worlds.
Damn.
at June 12, 2008 5:53 PM
Enragedsince1999, don't forget Margaret Thatcher, Ted Heath, and so it goes on, they all had pretty much the same ideas.
Cameron, you think he's different, Tony lite.
at June 12, 2008 6:08 PM
This may be an unpopular question on JW but what else can we do to prevent the spread of Jihad theology beyond throwing people in jail? Education seems to me, to be far more potent.
Even Gandhi was thrown in jail. Did that stop him from believing in a free India? I don't care to compare Gandhi and a terrorist but it goes a little ways in showing that people stick to their convictions regardless of jail sentences.
Blue
at June 12, 2008 6:08 PM
Ian,
Here's some truth in resposnse to your lies:
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/kosovo.htm
http://greenparty08.policlicks.com/item/BSVW916JQBZSKPBG
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/07/islamic_bosnia_it_began_with_a.php
Even in Germany (!) there are honest media, ARD TV, courageously speaking the truth, but Serb-demonizers in the US and the UK like you have sunk below the Goebbels level, still peddling old lies debanked as early as February of 2001.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Posted by: Enragedsince1999
at June 12, 2008 6:26 PM
http://eastern-european-forum.blogspot.com/2007/07/it-began-with-lie.html
Posted by: Enragedsince1999
at June 12, 2008 6:33 PM
Well Ghandi was a deluded pedophile(like old Mo is always being accused of), and a virulent racist (he regarded blacks as little better than animals), who's "peaceful" policies ended up getting his country partitioned and millions killed. The bulk of his country is now owned by Muslims, a doctrine far more pernicious and nasty that the British empire ever was.
at June 12, 2008 6:43 PM
Ghandi may have been killed because he supported paying Jizah to Pakistan and the Indian government refused.
Posted by: pulsar182
at June 12, 2008 8:55 PM
Off topic, but I have to wonder what this guy's angle is:
Al Yousuf to Acquire 50 Percent Interest in ZAP Recharge-It-All Battery Line
DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES and SANTA ROSA, CA -- Jun 12, 2008 -- Mr. Eqbal Al Yousuf will acquire a 50 percent interest in the Recharge-It-All Battery line of battery systems for mobile electronics from alternative transportation pioneer ZAP (OTC BB:ZAAP.OB).
Article here: http://www.zapworld.com/al-yousuf-recharge-it-all
Posted by: Aiken Bryce
at June 12, 2008 9:18 PM
from Ian...Well Ghandi was a deluded pedophile...
Can you cite evidence of this? Gandhi was sleeping in the same room with some young ladies at one time, he said he was doing it to test his 'no sex' resolve. Maybe this is a little strange, but by itself hardly qualifies for pedophilia. Pedophilia takes some kind of action. Did Gandhi sexually molest children?...State your proof.
Posted by: duh_swami
at June 12, 2008 9:25 PM
from Ian...Well Ghandi was a deluded pedophile...
Can you cite evidence of this? Gandhi was sleeping in the same room with some young ladies at one time, he said he was doing it to test his 'no sex' resolve. Maybe this is a little strange, but by itself hardly qualifies for pedophilia. Pedophilia takes some kind of action. Did Gandhi sexually molest children?...State your proof.
Posted by: duh_swami
at June 12, 2008 9:26 PM
Sorry for the double post...type key is acting up over here, where ever here is...
Posted by: duh_swami
at June 12, 2008 9:29 PM
The wife was just doing her Islamic duty, to her husbands jihad, and to Allah. In this case it was illegal, and now she is in jail...too bad...how sad...
Posted by: duh_swami
at June 12, 2008 9:35 PM
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999, may I politely suggest that you go to hell with your blanket condemnation of Britain and the British people. How have "millions of Britons granted residence and payed welfare to jihadists"? Are you crazy? This is the action of a government (or governments) not the British people who have no say in this matter. The average Briton has nothing but contempt for jihadists and Islamic extremism, but they also have a sense of fair play and humanity. And since you are "enraged", you might like to comment on the atrocities committed by extreme nationalist Serbs against Croats, Bosnians and every other nationality in the Balkans. And yes, there were also atrocities committed against Serbs, but it was Serb nationalism that was the engine for the Balkan tragedy of the past few decades. Moreover, don't try to incorporate your visceral and racialist anti-Albanian feelings into the struggle against international jihad because it they are entirely unconnected. Even some people , whose opinions I respect considerably on this blog, have got it horribly wrong when talking about the so-called Albanian jihad and are really arguing from a point of ignorance. Anyone who has even just one iota of insight into the history of Albania and the Albanian people knows that they ARE NOT A NATION WHO HAVE EVER REALLY TAKEN ISLAM SERIOUSLY. Sure, the majority might be nominal Muslims, but they do not identify with the wider Islamic community. Look at the warm reception George Bush received compared to the contempt in which he is held by Western European Dhimmis. Albania's revered national hero is a Roman Catholic (Skanderbeg) who fought against the Muslims Ottomans. Albania's international airport is named after Mother Theresa not (the original) Mohammed Ali (who, yes was also an Albanian). And please don't come back at me with some cut-and-paste article about the Albanian jihad: sure, there are some Albanian jihadis but there are also Caucasian British jihadists. Big deal, there are misfits and traitors in every society. Arkhan (probably your hero) was such an example from Serb society.
Once again Mr. Briton-hater, may I suggest that you really go somewhere unpleasant: Belgrade perhaps.
Posted by: The Northumbrian
at June 12, 2008 10:01 PM
From above: knows that they ARE NOT A NATION WHO HAVE EVER REALLY TAKEN ISLAM SERIOUSLY.
I don't know if this is actually the case or not, but there is nothing to prevent them from taking it seriously at a moments notice...or no notice. Do they believe Allah is God? Do they revere the perfect man and role model Mohammad? Do they read Quran and obey it? Do they pray five times a day? Do they respect and obey Sharia? If not, they are not muslims anyway, if yes, they are taking Islam seriously enough, in my opinion...
I have no opinion on the rest of the post to enragedsince 1999...
at June 12, 2008 10:19 PM
In Britain, as in Canada, a sentence of "15 years" in reality doesn't mean squat. She'll be out much sooner than that, if she ever actually sees the inside of a jail cell. Her lawyers will argue ad nauseum for leniency based on the fact that she has children. If the children are very young, she may be allowed to keep them in jail with her. And they'll probably allow her to have conjugal visits with her jihadist hubby so that they can breed more future-jihadist spawn. All at taxpayers' expense, of course.
I have to say it was much simpler in the old days when people like her were summarily executed for treason.
Posted by: angloirishslav
at June 12, 2008 10:42 PM
I heartily agree with you Enragedsince 1999. The methods used by the muslims in Kosova are exactly the same as that used all over the globe. I was unable to understand at the time why the US and our country went to war with Serbia, a Christian country, and one that was trying to protect its people from jihad and the take over of a chunk of its land. Why are we still so bemused over the methods of Islam? Why do we believe their persistent claims of persecution when in fact they are the persecutors, claims that have existed non-stop since Mohammed? I wish I understood this blindness of ours.
Posted by: Symphony Wales
at June 13, 2008 4:24 AM
I'm with Enragedsince and Symphony Wales. People who criticize the Serbs have not read history. Yes, I do believe that there were SOME atrocities committed by the Serbians, but these atrocities were the EXCEPTION rather than the rule, unlike muslims, whether they go under the name "albanians" or "Kosovars".
The link below has history.
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Chele-kula.html
The ones below are recent, and the MSM does not talk much about it.
http://www.kosovo.net/destruction.html
Please do watch the videos on this one.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/
Posted by: arjun.sevak
at June 13, 2008 4:59 AM
Yes those benign Servs shelled Dubrovnik, that centre of the Croation arms industry. No hang on, isn't it just a town by the sea?
Those gravepits, what buried themselves did they?
The rape, they were like a brigand army from the middle ages. Still fighting the second world war.
I'm not saying the Muslims hordes were any better, but to support the rape and murder of women and children, Enragedsince1999, sound like the same side of a rather nasty coin.
at June 13, 2008 7:41 AM
In all wars many normally humane people behave like savages. I have never read about any war without being appalled by the unecessary brutality of it (including rapes and pillaging). I think, therefore, it is necessary to look behind the merciless behaviour and understand the causes behind the fighting. While I agree with you Ian that the Serbs on occasions behaved as badly as the muslims over Kosova, the cause the Serbs were fighting for was genuine - to prevent the takeover of part of their country by muslims, something that muslims are eager to do all over the world. If we do not want an Islamic world we have to support those who are prepared to fight to stop them.
Posted by: Symphony Wales
at June 13, 2008 9:15 AM
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